Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
they were wise when ai-square bought GWMICRO, they are not so wise now. The last message that was sent please disregard. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk > wrote: > > They were Wiseman AI squared GW Micro Product

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
They were Wiseman AI squared GW Micro Product Discussion Listserv Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Veronica Smith via Talk > wrote: > > Thank you for your wise words! v > > -Original Message- > From: Talk >

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Veronica Smith via Talk
Thank you for your wise words! v -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 10:19 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Hello

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Pietruk via Talk
Karyn I doubt that anti-trust can come into play in this situation. For one thing, there is no barrier to entry into the screen reader/equipment market other than it makes little economic sense for anyone to do so given the economy and the disincentives for entrepreneurship. The other,

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Grant Metcalf via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:35 PM To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared To those infavor of government intervention, Have you forgotten that the Shark

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Grant Metcalf via Talk
Message- From: via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:46 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Great idea. Not!!! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Karyn Campbell

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread via Talk
Great idea. Not!!! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:21 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Darrell, I would

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Karyn Campbell via Talk
Darrell, I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called deal. Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Hi Doug and list. I need to thank you Doug for the positive perspective and the sincerity of what you have said. I just hope that internally, there is product design collaboration, and if that is so, user concern, (including mine) will of course disipate. You are one of those great software

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
t; gmail@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;>] > >> On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM > >> To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared > >> > >

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
16 4:28 PM >> To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared >> >> I'm going to do it anyway. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk >>> <

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared I'm going to do it anyway. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: Hi: After

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I'm going to do it anyway. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk > wrote: > > Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government will do > any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell. > I hope the

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi: After calmer consideration, I don't think contacting government will do any good since I believe they had no choice but to sell. I hope the members of this and the scripting list will get the new list addresses to sign up to before this list or the scripting list go away. Also, if the office /

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Don H via Talk
Although I am not a Apple user I understand their voice over works pretty well. Maybe our hope should be that Microsoft adds a voice over to Windows and I am not talking about Narrator. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
ts.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared It's been a while since I've had to have any knowledge of this, as this was not my area of legal expertise. However, I think Anti-trust suits are usually brought by the Justice Department, and as this really affects only a very sm

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Jesse via Talk
Its a strange thing when change happens and maybe, a bit daunting. That said, all we can do is move on and simply remember in other events out there where life is on the line makes this news small play. I somehow doubt many in-or around Orlando could give a damn so which is more important?

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Armando Maldonado via Talk
Well said Tom. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+armando.maldonado0767=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 AM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared We

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
We heard you the first 72 times! When are you going to take a break to call the Federal Trade Commission, the president, the United Nations, and NATO? Filing law suits, negotiations, legislative actions, and nuclear war all take time. On 6/14/2016 2:27 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: I

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread RJ Sandefur via Talk
Will you please stop wining like children! On 6/14/2016 1:53 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Of course I do. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Does anyone know the word "Monopoly???" -Bob Ringwald

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
I have confidence in people, I do not haveconfidence in corporate giants. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Bill Tillery via Talk > wrote: > > Thank you Doug, > > As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable > changing in

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I agree. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bill Tillery via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:27 PM To: 'Doug Geoffray'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Thank you Doug

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Bill Tillery via Talk
Thank you Doug, As always you bring a commen sense and calming approach to inevitable changing in the field of accessibility. I, for one, am certainly willing to give the new venture a chance to work for everyone and, as always, have total confidence in all of you in this field to give it your

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
n List Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared "nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Of course I do. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk > wrote: > > Does anyone know the word "Monopoly???" > > -Bob Ringwald > > > -Original Message- From: Doug Geoffray via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:18

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
t. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM > To: Doug Geoffray; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Discussion List Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared "nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Ge

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Kim Lingo via Talk
@lists.window-eyes.com> To: "'Rick Thomas'" <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 9:44 AM Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared It has antitrust lawsuit written all over it. Darrel

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Amen, and amen. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:30 PM, multi 85 via Talk > wrote: > > Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also > bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader > is good for some

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread multi 85 via Talk
Look forward to Mosen spinning it for the FS Cast soon. This is also bad, because what about the situation where sometimes one screenreader is good for some situations or works with one program and then you use another for a different situation? Less screenreaders = could be problematic. On

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread net bat via Talk
wishful thinking. look for another job. when aisquared murges with freedom most aisquared employees will be fired. this happened with both my parents when humble oil bought out signal oil. they promised all the signal oil employees would be retained. that lasted for 6 months then all signal

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
So we should be encouraging this type of behavior? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk > wrote: > > Doug, I believe as many on this list, you had no choice, so it is more > proffitable to go along than resist, so hey since you,

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
Doug, I believe as many on this list, you had no choice, so it is more proffitable to go along than resist, so hey since you, cannot beat em, you join em, simple as that. Company man! go for it and leave the ideals of those who have spent over 30 years now supporting your, company. Now it is a

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
al Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:58 PM To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Brian Moore via Talk
If he had, I would not be mentioning it on this list. While this might be true, there are two things. 1. it is far too new to speculate on this. The product structures, pricing changes if any etc have not been established yet. While my personal view is that from a consumer perspective, it

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
what else but give a company "yes" man mentality, the politically correct and slumberman idea all is well while the quality goes to shit! -- Curtis Delzer On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:18:46 + Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote: > Hello everyone, >

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread multi 85 via Talk
Webb via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:25 PM > To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared > > "nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of"

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
, 2016 12:41 PM To: 'Doug Geoffray' <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared Hi Doug: Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations? Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owni

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 12:41 PM To: Doug Geoffray <dgeoff...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared So does this mean window eyes for office will go away? Does this mean their might be a free version of jaws

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk
Hi Doug: Have you been contacted about anti-trust considerations? Seems like with only the JAWS company ownership owning both Jaws and WindowEyes there are not any other major competitiors out there and thus this combination would be anti-competitive in nature. I don't know if that applies to the

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
ect: Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared "nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk < t

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2016-06-14 Thread george basioli via Talk
Well dug it already cost a bank for some of these products, and now who is to stop the; new group from even raising the prices higher??? Like I posted earlier monopley!!! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug

Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Reeva Webb via Talk
"nobody will be abandoned or taken advantage of" I respect you a lot and it's great that your optimistic about this, as far as I'm concerned lollollollollollollol I'll believe it when I see it. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Doug Geoffray via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Hello

RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

2016-06-14 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
With all due respect, Why should we believe it? It's like the Jeff Jones of the AT industry. I've watched JAWS decline in innovation, Which is why I went to windoweyes and NVDA and system access. This was a chance for everyone to break away from JAWS, and now it seems to me that that is all