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Re: Selecting E-mail Recipients

That is one reason I'm going to use window eyes for wlm. Jaws doesn't speak things like: read, replied to, forwarded etc. Jaws doesn't say top or bottom of the wlm message list. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:02 PM To: Window-Eyes

Re: xp question

Sorry, this is incorrect. WE 9.1 will install on XP, 9.2 was the first version which required Win7 and above. On 5/27/2017 7:48 AM, Albert Sanchez via Talk wrote: 8.4 - Original Message - From: "michaeel's mail via Talk" To: "window eyes help list"

RE: on the way

Hi, You could also shut down WE, and turn on Narator. You could then use Narrator until JAWS begins to talk, and turn off Narrator. With win10 creators, the command to turn on Narrator is: CTRL+Windows+Enter. On Windows 7, Press ALT+U, and I believe that Narrator will begin talking. Take care,

RE: End of Life Message

Hi, Oh my goodness Roflol, lmao! This has got to be one of the greatest wakeup messages I've ever seen! Hilarious! I haven't written in quite some time primarily because when freedom scientific purchased AI squared, I could see the writing on the wall. I certainly will miss working with window

RE: When will I get Jaws?

That is a good idea. Perhaps I can get mine back also. Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:07 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: When will I

RE: End of Life Message

Hello. NVDA stands for nonvisual desktop access, and you can learn more about it at www.nvda-project.org Note: when you download it, it comes with a really robotic voice, but other voices can be gotten for NVDA, such as Eloquence, DECtalk, or Vocalizer, and these can be gotten as NVDA

Re: End of Life Message

non visual desktop access. Pam. -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:00 PM To: 'nick danger' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: End of Life Message What does NVDA, stand for? Also, where do I go to learn more about it? Thanks.

Re: Is it possible?

if both w e and jaws is running the computer will crash before you can shut w e down. i had to find and rename the gwmicro folder with nvda running. then windows can't find wineyes to load. let jaws load on reboot and turn it off so it would not load on startup. rename the gwmicro folder back.

Re: Is it possible?

The Easist way to close Window Eyes is to Press CTRL-Backslash which brings up the Control Pannel. Press Alt-F to bring up the File Menu. Then up arrow twice to get to Exit Window Eyes, and Press the Enter Key. Then Press the Enter Key once more to go with the OK Button. Grumpy Dave --

When will I get Jaws?

Hi all, On Tuesday, it will be 2 weeks since I signed up for Jaws over the phone. I called about when I could expect to receive it on Friday and was told that I was in process to get it. Is there another number I can call to speak with someone who can help me get it soon? It seems to me that 2

RE: End of Life Message

I think it's nonvisual desktop application or access. Something like that. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:01 PM To: 'nick danger'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion

RE: is it possible?

Yes, you can use it until windows no longer works. JAWS will continue to be updated however. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Richard Jarvis via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:45 PM To:

Re: Is it possible?

Jaws does not over write Window Eyes. If you have Window Eyes starting when you Boot up the System, be sure to set Jaws up, to Not start at Boot up. Otherwise you will have both Jaws and Window Eyes starting together. Not a problem, if it does, just shut down one of them and go from there.

RE: End of Life Message

What does NVDA, stand for? Also, where do I go to learn more about it? Thanks. Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of nick danger via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:42 AM To: 'Andre'; 'Window-Eyes

Re: Is it possible?

Hi No you will absolutely not lose your current instalation of Window-eyes if you install another screenreader like JAWS, because JAWS is a completely different Windows program that installs into a different folder location on your pc. You can safely have several screenreaders

move to jaws

I have found that a great combination to have is NVDA and Jaws. Since getting my Jaws activation code I have not used Window Eyes at all. For me NVDA is easier to learn than Jaws. So my overall plan is to use NVDA as my primary screen reader and Jaws as my backup if things come up that NVDA

Re: move to jaws

Window-eyes isn't some disease we all have to get rid of. I plan to use it for as much as I can for as long as it works. If necessary, I'll switch to nvda. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 28 May 2017, Don H via Talk wrote: I have found that a great combination to have is

Outlook 2007 Question

Hi Listers, There is something weird going on with Outlook 2007. When I am in the in-box, instead of saying, "There are no items in this view," Jaws 18 says, "Ere are no items in this view." I think Jaws is not seeing the t h in there. Is there any way I can fix this? Pastor Gil

Re: Is it possible?

What's the easiest way to close WE? On 5/28/2017 2:40 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: > the only problem you will have is if more then one screen reader is > running at the same time. > if i forget to unload window eyes before i load jaws the computer will > crash. > -Original Message-

Re: When will I get Jaws?

if you mean the program you can downloaded anytime from the freedomscientific.com web site. i don't know about the license. it took a week for me to get it. -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 8:34 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject:

RE: Is it possible?

As stated, you can install JAWS without uninstalling Window-Eyes. One thing you do need to be aware of, though, is to make sure that you disable Window-Eyes’ automatic startup, otherwise JAWS and Window-Eyes will try to run together. This can result in weird things happening, not to mention 2

Re: xp question

Dave, I agree. I tried wineyes 9.1 on an XP machine and then took it off and reinstalled 8.4. Version 9.1 just didn't work that good for me. Butch -- BK ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the

RE: When will I get Jaws?

If you are migrating I would suggest you send an email to VFO sales and/or support. My authorization did not arrive as expected so I did just that and received it the same day. HTH -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+trbft=mediacombb@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of

Re: When will I get Jaws?

Hi Either that, or just give them another call and tell them that you've begun the migration process and that you just need your 20-digit authorization code and serial number. Luckily, I was able to get my old JAWS serial number back from when I used it many moons ago. On

RE: End of Life Message

Hello Nick. I am totally behind you on supporting NVDA, and. I just switched to NVDA from Window-Eyes a couple weeks ago, and it's a fantastic product! Like Window-Eyes and JAWS, NVDA now has a certification program so when can become certified in it and become an NVDA trainer and I hope many

Is it possible?

Hello I wanted to know if I get jaws will it install over my current version of win eyes? I don't want to loose it and I don't have a cd of it. So my next question is can I still get a cd of win eyes 9.5? Thanks Rick ___ Any views or opinions

is it possible?

Hello group, I just got the message about win eyes being discontinued and that I can itagrate to jaws. My question is will I be able to keep my current copy of window eyes and use it if I want too? I have the latest version o.5.0. or will jaws install over this copy? If so can I still get a

Re: Is it possible?

the only problem you will have is if more then one screen reader is running at the same time. if i forget to unload window eyes before i load jaws the computer will crash. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:58 AM To:

Re: Is it possible?

Hello, I have both installed on my system. Currently I still have Window-Eyes launch at the login screen and automatically on my desktop. I did have to setup a shortcut key in the JfW icon on my desktop (control+shift+J) because it doesn't have one by default. Now I can unload Window-Eyes

Re: opening a web address

After opening your preferred web browser simply press alt D to get to the address bar where you can type in the address of the website that you want to visit. After you have typed in the address simply hit enter. Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk >

Re: move to jaws

I'll have to agree here. Using JFW with Thunderbird is quite disappointing to me. JFW can't give message counts or indexes in message folders. NVDA does this very well. WE in my opinion works better with TB than JFW does except for the fact that TB often crashes when using WE. For me the

RE: Jaws learning tutorial

Brice, HJ Pad, if memory serves, is more or less like the Notepad or Wordpad you already have in Windows. Not so sure you need it, but, hey, go play with it and enjoy the new treat! Too many silly bells and whistles in Jaws if I dare say so! Example: Research It: Silly; you can do the exact

Re: Jaws learning tutorial

The easiest way, for me, using Windows 7, is press the Windows Key) and type hjPad in the search box. Down arrow once and you should hear run hjPad. If you do not, up arrow once and see if it shows up. Press enter and the program will open. Carol On 5/28/2017 8:25 PM, brice Mijares via

Re: Jaws learning tutorial

I can kind of understand that, but sometimes, research it can be useful. It has for example, an Amazon search, which if I have an idea of what I'm looking for, I don't have to go through the clutter of Amazon to do it. However, most of the time I go to Amazon anyways. Sent from my iPhone > On

RE: move to jaws

OOne thing I learned just now is that I can use MicroSoft’s mobile voices with NVDa. For example, none of the other screen-readers can use the new Mark voice from MicroSoft because it’s a mobile voice. Someone wrote an NVDA add-on that allows use the the Mobile SAPI voices. It’s a little

RE: move to jaws

Where can these scripts be found? At 05:20 PM 5/28/2017, you wrote: Jaws has scripts for winamp. You would be smart to learn Jaws. Window-eyes will not always work properly. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of

Re: move to jaws

Window Eyes also works better with Eudora. At 05:18 PM 5/28/2017, you wrote: No WindowEyes is not a disease we must get rid of. I will keep both screen readers as long as I can. Window-Eyes works much better with Winamp and Windows Live Mail. Additionally with JAWS, I could not copy text

Re: Is it possible?

If you are in the Window-Eyes control panel, alt-f4 is the close command or you can use the menues, alt-f, and up arrow to exit. On the other hand, if you are on any other screen, control-insert-f4 is the built-in Window-Eyes shut down key command. On 5/28/2017 9:39 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk

RE: move to jaws

Hi Olusegun, The message is a feature of the newest update to the Windows Enhance app. Therefore, you won't see the message unless you update this app. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Olusegun --

Re: Is it possible?

with both running try to unload win eyes. mine will crash every time with the blue screen of death. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,Inc. via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 6:23 PM To: 'Nick Sarames' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Is it

RE: Jaws learning tutorial

Easy and convenient. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:53 PM To: 'brice Mijares'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Jaws

RE: move to jaws

NVDA is not as powerful as Jaws. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 3:26 PM To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: move to jaws Window-eyes isn't some

RE: Jaws learning tutorial

Hi, HJ Pad is a lot like Wordpad, but it has classical menus instead of ribbons. The spell checker by just pressing F7 works very well, just like in MS word earlier versions. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 11:10 PM To:

System tray configuration for Jaws

Hi, Here's how to configure the Windows 10 system tray so that, when running Jaws, it displays all the icons which are displayed when running Window-Eyes. Actually, you have to select which icons you want displayed. Note that, in the Windows 10 Settings, I found two different places to

RE: move to jaws

>um not necessarily true. What about for those that have windows10 how do >you know it will work with the next windows10 update? You don't. Do you >really want to wait years to learn Jaws until you have to? That isn't >smart. You should learn it now when you don't have to. How do you know

RE: move to jaws

Hi, JAWS 18 works great on Windows 10 Creator’s build. Version 1703. JAWS is not that different, because screen readers are very similar. Also, You might want to consider free NVDA as a good back up screen reader. You can download NVDA screen reader for free at: www.nvaccess.org NVDA is a full

RE: move to jaws

Hi, Eudora is a relic that will no longer work with many email accounts. Windows Live mail or Thunderbird are much better than Eudora. I used Eudora in the early 2000s, and it was very limited even then. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David Pearson via Talk Sent: Sunday, May

RE: move to jaws

You need at least JAWS 17 to work well with Windows 10, which is the Windows version you should be using, because it works with all of the modern apps and cloud services. NVDA is very powerful, and I encourage you to try using it as your full screen reader. It may not have all of the bells and

RE: move to jaws

Marvin, watch out! I may just come kidnap your computer, ! And that's because you have all three screen readers! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: move to jaws

Hi Olusegun! I am putting a demo of Window Eyes on my computer right now LOL! It has Windows 10 Creators update LOLOL! I have NVDA, JAWS, Narrator, and now, a demo of Window Eyes LOL! I better watch my computer LOL! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates

Re: move to jaws

Well, I have 4 screen readers on my computer: Jaws, NVDA, Narator and Window-Eyes. I have had Jaws and window-Eyes running at the same time, but no more than 2 at a time!. Catch Ya Later! de . On 29-May-17 00:32, David Moore via Talk wrote: Hi Olusegun! I am putting a demo of

How to learn to use n v d a

I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I have to resort to another screen reader I want one that does not belong to VFO. NVDA seems the obvious alternative. Where can I go to learn how to use it.. Thanks for any help. Ivan Cribbb ___

Re: How to learn to use n v d a

And the access is a good resource. Also, there is a training manual, that if I can, I will hunt it down and send it to you. Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk > wrote: > > I intend to use Window-Eyes as long as possible but if I

RE: How to learn to use n v d a

Hi Ivan, NVDA is the screen reader of the future, because everyone has access to its code. It is called open source, because everyone can contribute to its code. NVDA will not be bought, because we, the community own it LOL!. To subscribe to the NVDA list, many experts on there:

Re: Is it possible?

That's more steps than necessary. You can do insert control f4. Then enter. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 4:43 PM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Is it possible? The Easist way to close Window Eyes is to Press

Thanks to all

I thank all of you who answered my question about jaws. I feel much better about migrating now. Rick ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

opening a web address

Hi all, For some reason, just now I can't remember how to open a website. So, could someone please tell me how to go to a web site? For instance, right now I want to go to the web site that Skye sent, which is: www.nvda-project.org Thanks for your help. Paulette

RE: opening a web address

Paulette wrote: "For some reason, just now I can't remember how to open a website. So, could someone please tell me how to go to a web site? For instance, right now I want to go to the web site that Skye sent, which is: www.nvda-project.org " Not that hard dear sis. Using the arrow keys,

RE: Jaws learning tutorial

If you are running JAWS, press insert plus j to get to the JAWS window, and press alt+u for utilities. Then press x to explore utilities folder, and then press the letter or until you hear, run HJ pad. Hope this helps, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: End of Life Message

Nick, what does it cost to have apps scripted for accessibility using NVDA? What is the turnaround time frame? Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: Is it possible?

NetBat wrote in part: "if i forget to unload window eyes before i load jaws the computer will crash." Hmm, I guess I am too crazy for my own good! I am able to run both Jaws and Window-Eyes at the same time. When I do this, I find that Window-Eyes continues reading stuff long after Jaws has

Re: move to jaws

Thats all good but don't forget window eyes its not dead for maybe couple of years yet. Cheers -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 4:11 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: move to jaws michael. I have found that a great combination to have is

RE: move to jaws

um not necessarily true. What about for those that have windows10 how do you know it will work with the next windows10 update? You don't. Do you really want to wait years to learn Jaws until you have to? That isn't smart. You should learn it now when you don't have to. How do you know WE

RE: Is it possible?

Control-Insert-F4 is the quickest way to SHUT DOWN Window-Eyes! However, if these three keystrokes are tough to negotiate, you can change it to whatever works better for you. I did that and I only use two keystrokes. I also changed the Read-To-End keystroke because it conflicts with Outlook

RE: move to jaws

Oh come on, Don! The obituary just got published as in "End of Life" info? Got to wait for friends, family and well wishers to assemble for final viewing before Window-Eyes casket is closed for good! Incidentally, I haven't seen any such message pop up here in my Windows7 64Bit Professional

Re: move to jaws

No WindowEyes is not a disease we must get rid of. I will keep both screen readers as long as I can. Window-Eyes works much better with Winamp and Windows Live Mail. Additionally with JAWS, I could not copy text from the internet into Windows Explorer to name a file or folder. I can do so with

Re: opening a web address

Depending on your web browser, you can press, control o, control k, control l... On 5/28/2017 5:43 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote: > Hi all, > > > > For some reason, just now I can't remember how to open a website. So, could > someone please tell me how to go to a web site? For

Jaws learning tutorial

I was listening to one of the jaws learning moduals in MP3 on my digital player trying to follow along. Well it came to this hj pad that's suppose to be included in Jaws according to the MP3 I'm listening to. Has any one came across this HJ pad? I could not locate it. Thanks for any info.

Re: Is it possible?

Not to get into a nit picky argument, but some here say control f4, and others say control insert f4. Why? That said, I just tried alt f4 and I got the promp to shut down WE. On 5/28/2017 9:30 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: > Control-Insert-F4 is the quickest way

Re: Is it possible?

all you have to do is press control backslash then alt f4. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Is it possible? The Easist way to close Window Eyes is to Press CTRL-Backslash which brings

RE: move to jaws

Jaws has scripts for winamp. You would be smart to learn Jaws. Window-eyes will not always work properly. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 6:19 PM To: Butch