Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I see that several of you re using the PC app. Can you register your PC 
without sighted assistance. If so, how? I have not received any response 
from anyone who has actually used Window-Eyes to read the registration boxes 
on a PC. Some of you may have doneit years ago, but has anyone actually done 
it in the past year? After I got my PC registered with sighted help, I had 
trouble selecting books for download. I was using Internet Explorer 11. I 
was so frustrated that I asked Customer Service to deregister my PC. Will 
Chrome or Firefox work better? Again, some of you are doing this. I know I 
am using the Accessibility plug-in because it is, by far, the largest of the 
two files, and I have downloaded it from the link for accesibility. I am 
using Window 7 64-bit Pro with WE 9.5.1. I haven't updated WE yet, but will 
do so shortly. I would really like to know if there is something I am 
missing with Window-Eyes. If you want to write off list, that's okay. 
Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:23 PM
To: Russ Kiehne
Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Do you know what voice the keyboard uses?  I guess I'm use to it, I've
rad many books, and I like it.  I don't particularly like the female
voices.  What a person gets use to I suppose.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Russ
Kiehne wrote:

I started out by using a Kindle Keyboard several years back.  I don't use 
it any more.  The thing is, The Fire tablet has Ivona as it's tts and is a 
better tts than the tts on the Kindle Keyboard.  Also when it comes to 
reading, the Fire tablet has a lot better navigation of books than the 
Kindle Keyboard.


-Original Message- From: Butch Bussen
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:31 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Maybe, if you can get use to touch screens which I never have.  I'll
stick to my kindle keyboard. I like that voice better anyhow.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed, 14
Sep 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

 You would be better off buying the $50.00 Fire tablet from Amazon to 
read

 Kindle books.

 -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:44 PM
 To: A I Squared Support
 Subject: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

 Hello,

 A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
 in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

 I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
 it.

 Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
 any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

 Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
 does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?


 Thanks for any comments,

 Grumpy Dave

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Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Richard Jarvis via Talk]

I am using Thunderbird and it is not repeating the subject line for me. 
It just starts reading the email.  Latest window-eyes, and latest 
Thunderbird.  Rick

On 9/14/2016 11:32 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:
> Hi I see in this new update.
> The problem with Thunderbird repeating itself hasn't been fixed.
> You can open Thunderbird and then restart window-eyes and it will go away.
> But if you have messages grouped by conversation and you expand A thread.
> and the clasap it the repeating itself will start all over again.
> It would be nice if this could get looked in to and done asway with.
> So if anyelese is having this lets let them know and maybe will will get
> this looked in to and fixed.
> I know that it isn't A big major thing but it is still annoying non the
> less.
> So please look in to it and maybe we will get A fix for this.
>
>
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Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

My way around this is to make sure Thunderbird is open and then close 
and restart Window-Eyes.  It works quite well.


Carol

On 9/14/2016 2:25 PM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
Yes i can definitely confirm this behavior.  To reproduce this, do the 
following.



1.  Open TB


2.  open a message in the list and press enter, and Window-eyes will 
begin to read the message just as it should.  But then a few seconds 
later, right in the middle of reading the message, Window-eyes will 
interrupt the email and read the subject line of the message again, 
and then continue reading as if nothing ever happened.  is there a 
setting we need to change in Thunderbird to solve this?  Yes it it is 
small but it slows me down when I have to essentially hear every 
subject line twice.  This only happens during the first time the 
message is opened.  If you press the control key to silence 
Window-eyes and then do a ssay-all manually, the subject line isn't 
read twice.






On 9/14/2016 12:32 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I see in this new update.
The problem with Thunderbird repeating itself hasn't been fixed.
You can open Thunderbird and then restart window-eyes and it will go 
away.
But if you have messages grouped by conversation and you expand A 
thread.

and the clasap it the repeating itself will start all over again.
It would be nice if this could get looked in to and done asway with.
So if anyelese is having this lets let them know and maybe will will 
get this looked in to and fixed.
I know that it isn't A big major thing but it is still annoying non 
the less.

So please look in to it and maybe we will get A fix for this.




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Re: more web frustrations

[Loy via Talk]

I can say that the slow download would not have any thing to do with Window 
Eyes. A few  months ago, I had some problems with WE, support gave me some 
things to do but still the same problem. I decided to do an emergency uninstall 
of WE and reinstalled it, the problems went away. I would also  scan for 
malware and virus.
- Original Message - 
  From: via Talk 
  To: j...@jedbarton.com ; Jed Barton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:26 PM
  Subject: Re: more web frustrations


  I thought it was my messed up computer.  But I have had to start window eyes 
  again, lots of times, lately.  Also, you know the control alt w that you are 
  supposed to use that is supposed to automatically kill window eyes and 
  restart it? Sometimes, that doesn't work.  Sometimes, I actually have to 
  manually shut down window eyes and restart it again.  It's such a slow poke 
  lately!  And a lot of times, when I go to download something, it takes ages 
  before it gives me the ding dong and asks me if I want to download or save 
  the thing.  Especially the first time I am downloading something during a 
  session.  Pam.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Jed Barton via Talk
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:30 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: more web frustrations

  Hey guys,

  OK, i do not understand this at all.  This happened all day today while
  surfing the web.  I went to google, cause that's my normal search
  engine.  I'll go to the search box type in my search, then tab over to
  the search button.  A few seconds later, google is saying 1 link, i'll
  press the tab key to go through the results, and here comes silence  The
  only way to recover it, is to re-start window-eyes.  I am running the
  latest we and latest firefox.  This is not right.  Any ideas, anyone
  else experiencing similar behavior?
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Re: more web frustrations

[via Talk]

I thought it was my messed up computer.  But I have had to start window eyes 
again, lots of times, lately.  Also, you know the control alt w that you are 
supposed to use that is supposed to automatically kill window eyes and 
restart it? Sometimes, that doesn't work.  Sometimes, I actually have to 
manually shut down window eyes and restart it again.  It's such a slow poke 
lately!  And a lot of times, when I go to download something, it takes ages 
before it gives me the ding dong and asks me if I want to download or save 
the thing.  Especially the first time I am downloading something during a 
session.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:30 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: more web frustrations

Hey guys,

OK, i do not understand this at all.  This happened all day today while
surfing the web.  I went to google, cause that's my normal search
engine.  I'll go to the search box type in my search, then tab over to
the search button.  A few seconds later, google is saying 1 link, i'll
press the tab key to go through the results, and here comes silence  The
only way to recover it, is to re-start window-eyes.  I am running the
latest we and latest firefox.  This is not right.  Any ideas, anyone
else experiencing similar behavior?
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Re: some TW Blue Questions

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

If you have TW Blue's main interface window opened, go to the help menu, 
with alt plus h and the first thing that *should* pop up is the 
documentation.  That'll answer just about every question you could 
possibly have! I love TW Blue!




On 9/14/2016 5:16 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

Hey guys,

Wow, i like this TW blue program a lot better.  Question, i am going 
through the people i follow.  It only shows 100 users, and i follow 
close to 400.  How do i get to the rest of them.  I am going to 
unfollow some of them.  How do i get rid of them off my list?


Thanks,
Jed
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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

Do you know what voice the keyboard uses?  I guess I'm use to it, I've 
rad many books, and I like it.  I don't particularly like the female 
voices.  What a person gets use to I suppose.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed, 14 Sep 2016, Russ 
Kiehne wrote:


I started out by using a Kindle Keyboard several years back.  I don't use it 
any more.  The thing is, The Fire tablet has Ivona as it's tts and is a 
better tts than the tts on the Kindle Keyboard.  Also when it comes to 
reading, the Fire tablet has a lot better navigation of books than the Kindle 
Keyboard.


-Original Message- From: Butch Bussen
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:31 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Maybe, if you can get use to touch screens which I never have.  I'll
stick to my kindle keyboard. I like that voice better anyhow.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed, 14
Sep 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:


 You would be better off buying the $50.00 Fire tablet from Amazon to read
 Kindle books.

 -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:44 PM
 To: A I Squared Support
 Subject: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

 Hello,

 A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
 in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

 I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
 it.

 Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
 any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

 Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
 does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



 Thanks for any comments,

 Grumpy Dave


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some TW Blue Questions

[Jed Barton via Talk]

Hey guys,

Wow, i like this TW blue program a lot better.  Question, i am going 
through the people i follow.  It only shows 100 users, and i follow 
close to 400.  How do i get to the rest of them.  I am going to unfollow 
some of them.  How do i get rid of them off my list?


Thanks,
Jed
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Re: very frustrated with chicken nugget

[Lee Hodgson via Talk]

Hi jeff,
have you tried tw blue, not sure about chicken noughat but the 
documentation on tw blue is good and it has a virtual control panel 
and on screen one too to choose from much more straight forward.

gYou might find it easier to navigate and control.
it is free and if you google tw blue you should find it, and it works 
well with window eyes too.

hth. smiles.

Lee, Emily my guiding  furry snowflake and Chester and simba the 
feline fellas

leehodge on dice world
My wife is JessHodge on Dice world
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Re: very frustrated with chicken nugget

[Lee Hodgson via Talk]

Hi jeff,
have you tried tw blue, not sure about chicken noughat but the 
documentation on tw blue is good and it has a virtual control panel 
and on screen one too to choose from much more straight forward.

gYou might find it easier to navigate and control.
it is free and if you google tw blue you should find it, and it works 
well with window eyes too.

hth. smiles.

Lee, Emily my guiding  furry snowflake and Chester and simba the 
feline fellas

leehodge on dice world
My wife is JessHodge on Dice world
Follow me on Twitter Lee__Hodgson with two underlines between 
first  and second names, and on audioboo user name leehodge



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very frustrated with chicken nugget

[Jed Barton via Talk]

Hey guys,

Alright, i've about ahd it up to here with this chicken nugget program. 
The documentation is lacking to see the least.  I can not find any way 
to bring up the list of keyboard shortcuts.  Further more, there appears 
to be no way for me to see who i am following, and who is following me, 
and there is no keyboard command to bring up options.  All i see is 
timeline.
I see timelines expanded 1 of 3, events closed, and sent, nothing else. 
What am i doing wrong?

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Some Chicken Nugget Questions

[Jed Barton via Talk]

Hey guys,

OK, i am just getting back in to twitter.  I can not figure out for the 
life of me how to get to the settings in Chicken Nugget.  I can do 
control windows left and right arrow, but all i see is stuff like home, 
sent, and all that, no settings what so ever.  Am i missing something?

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Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Lynn White via Talk]

How do you read by conversation in Thunderbird?  I can't find the option 
to set this up.  Thanks in advance.



On 9/14/2016 11:32 AM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I see in this new update.
The problem with Thunderbird repeating itself hasn't been fixed.
You can open Thunderbird and then restart window-eyes and it will go 
away.

But if you have messages grouped by conversation and you expand A thread.
and the clasap it the repeating itself will start all over again.
It would be nice if this could get looked in to and done asway with.
So if anyelese is having this lets let them know and maybe will will 
get this looked in to and fixed.
I know that it isn't A big major thing but it is still annoying non 
the less.

So please look in to it and maybe we will get A fix for this.




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Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Yes i can definitely confirm this behavior.  To reproduce this, do the 
following.



1.  Open TB


2.  open a message in the list and press enter, and Window-eyes will 
begin to read the message just as it should.  But then a few seconds 
later, right in the middle of reading the message, Window-eyes will 
interrupt the email and read the subject line of the message again, and 
then continue reading as if nothing ever happened.  is there a setting 
we need to change in Thunderbird to solve this?  Yes it it is small but 
it slows me down when I have to essentially hear every subject line 
twice.  This only happens during the first time the message is opened.  
If you press the control key to silence Window-eyes and then do a 
ssay-all manually, the subject line isn't read twice.






On 9/14/2016 12:32 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I see in this new update.
The problem with Thunderbird repeating itself hasn't been fixed.
You can open Thunderbird and then restart window-eyes and it will go 
away.

But if you have messages grouped by conversation and you expand A thread.
and the clasap it the repeating itself will start all over again.
It would be nice if this could get looked in to and done asway with.
So if anyelese is having this lets let them know and maybe will will 
get this looked in to and fixed.
I know that it isn't A big major thing but it is still annoying non 
the less.

So please look in to it and maybe we will get A fix for this.




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Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Casey via Talk]

Hi I see in this new update.
The problem with Thunderbird repeating itself hasn't been fixed.
You can open Thunderbird and then restart window-eyes and it will go away.
But if you have messages grouped by conversation and you expand A thread.
and the clasap it the repeating itself will start all over again.
It would be nice if this could get looked in to and done asway with.
So if anyelese is having this lets let them know and maybe will will get 
this looked in to and fixed.
I know that it isn't A big major thing but it is still annoying non the 
less.

So please look in to it and maybe we will get A fix for this.


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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

I started out by using a Kindle Keyboard several years back.  I don't use it 
any more.  The thing is, The Fire tablet has Ivona as it's tts and is a 
better tts than the tts on the Kindle Keyboard.  Also when it comes to 
reading, the Fire tablet has a lot better navigation of books than the 
Kindle Keyboard.


-Original Message- 
From: Butch Bussen

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:31 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Maybe, if you can get use to touch screens which I never have.  I'll
stick to my kindle keyboard. I like that voice better anyhow.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
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On Wed, 14
Sep 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

You would be better off buying the $50.00 Fire tablet from Amazon to read 
Kindle books.


-Original Message- From: Dave via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:44 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave


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RE: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

If you go to gwmicro.com/upgrade and in the serial number type GWWEOffice  you 
should be able to download the upgrade.
The above is only for the Window-eyes for users of Microsoft Office offer.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:55 AM
To: Aaron Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

The check for updates option in the help menu seems to be broken, at least 
in the office version. I click on it and nothing at all happens. 
Unfortunately I've forgotten how I downloaded an upgrade last time one came 
out.

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Subject: Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

When you use Kindle for pc with accessibility, the books are in a folder My 
Kindle Content off the documents folder in windows 10.


-Original Message- 
From: bj colt via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:05 AM
To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hi Carol,

Can I ask where do the Kindle books go once you have bought them? I read
them on my iphone as the kindle app for the pc is not accessible for me.

Is there a way to get to the books I have purchased in Amazon? I've never
tried to access my books on amazon.

Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hi Grumpy Dave,

I have a better suggestion.  You still purchase your Kindle books.
Instead of using the Amazon Kindle app, you can convert your files to
another format of your own choosing by using a program called Codex.  I
am placing the link here.  The program allows one to convert .pdf,
.epub, .azw or whatever file type the Amazon books are in, and other
formats from one to another.  For example, you can even convert a .docx
to a .txt or .rtf.  It is pretty easy to use and it can be run in the
Windows Explorer, at least on Win7 machines, through the context menu.
You set your default file type for output and when you select convert,
your file is automatically converted to the file you requested.  There
is also an option to choose another file type without changing your
default.  For example, you found a magazine article you wanted to read
quickly..save it as a .txt and read it quickly.  So, finally, here is
the link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5121410/Codex-2.0-setup.exe

Oh yes, I used it yesterday and was informed there is a newer version.
You can update it directly from the program.

Carol



On 9/13/2016 9:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave




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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

You do know you need Kindle for pc with accessibility to download the books 
to convert them with codex?  I do this to convert my Kindle books to epub to 
read them using voice dream reader on my ipad mini.


-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:18 AM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hi Grumpy Dave,

I have a better suggestion.  You still purchase your Kindle books.
Instead of using the Amazon Kindle app, you can convert your files to
another format of your own choosing by using a program called Codex.  I
am placing the link here.  The program allows one to convert .pdf,
.epub, .azw or whatever file type the Amazon books are in, and other
formats from one to another.  For example, you can even convert a .docx
to a .txt or .rtf.  It is pretty easy to use and it can be run in the
Windows Explorer, at least on Win7 machines, through the context menu.
You set your default file type for output and when you select convert,
your file is automatically converted to the file you requested.  There
is also an option to choose another file type without changing your
default.  For example, you found a magazine article you wanted to read
quickly..save it as a .txt and read it quickly.  So, finally, here is
the link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5121410/Codex-2.0-setup.exe

Oh yes, I used it yesterday and was informed there is a newer version.
You can update it directly from the program.

Carol



On 9/13/2016 9:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave




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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

Maybe, if you can get use to touch screens which I never have.  I'll 
stick to my kindle keyboard. I like that voice better anyhow.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
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On Wed, 14 
Sep 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:


You would be better off buying the $50.00 Fire tablet from Amazon to read 
Kindle books.


-Original Message- From: Dave via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:44 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave


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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

You would be better off buying the $50.00 Fire tablet from Amazon to read 
Kindle books.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:44 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave


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Re: how to speed up web pages

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

One of the causes of this can be what's called a carousel. It's 
essentially a slide show that continually cycles through content on the 
page, such as the latest stories on a news site. I see this on my local 
PBS site and so far there's nothing that can be done about it that I'm 
aware of.


Tom


On 9/14/2016 7:08 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi: I get that on some pages as well.
My guess is that these pages are loading continuing items like stories while
we are trying to read something like read line to read some text. I am
guessing that WE notices a change and then starts reading the pages
underlying tree from the top until it finds wherever the last line pointer
was and that could be really slow.
I don't know but I do get this behavior on some pages as well but not so
much on others.

Rick USA

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:08 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: how to speed up web pages

Hey guys,

Alright, my frustration is really growing, and i need your help with
finding a solution.  I am finding more and more web pages are extremely
slow.  I find that when i'm on a web page with the latest firefox and
window-eyes, i cn literally press the down or up arrow key, and
literally count seconds from when i depress the key until window-eyes
starts talking.  I'll sit there and count, 1, 2, 3, etc.  It's really
annoying.  I find it particularly happens on newspaper and news sites.
How can i get rid of this problem.  All i care about is the text.
Pictures and other stupid images mean absolutely nothing to me. Quite
frankly it's a huge time waster, and those little blocks of 30 seconds
add up during the course of a day when i'm trying to be productive.  Any
solutions?
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Introducing Window-Eyes 9.5.3

[Aaron Smith via Talk]

Greetings,

Ai Squared is proud to announce the release of Window-Eyes 9.5.3. This 
maintenance release addresses issues which were reported in Window-Eyes 9.5.1. 
Get a list of all the improvements by reading the Window-Eyes 9.5.3 
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Keep reading to learn more about Window-Eyes 9.5.3 and what it can do for you.

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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

That's a great idea, but you must register your PC and download the books 
first. Last time I tried, I couldn't even do that.


-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 6:18 AM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hi Grumpy Dave,

I have a better suggestion.  You still purchase your Kindle books.
Instead of using the Amazon Kindle app, you can convert your files to
another format of your own choosing by using a program called Codex.  I
am placing the link here.  The program allows one to convert .pdf,
.epub, .azw or whatever file type the Amazon books are in, and other
formats from one to another.  For example, you can even convert a .docx
to a .txt or .rtf.  It is pretty easy to use and it can be run in the
Windows Explorer, at least on Win7 machines, through the context menu.
You set your default file type for output and when you select convert,
your file is automatically converted to the file you requested.  There
is also an option to choose another file type without changing your
default.  For example, you found a magazine article you wanted to read
quickly..save it as a .txt and read it quickly.  So, finally, here is
the link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5121410/Codex-2.0-setup.exe

Oh yes, I used it yesterday and was informed there is a newer version.
You can update it directly from the program.

Carol



On 9/13/2016 9:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave




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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Either way, I just tried it again yesterday, and it still didn't work for 
me. The menu system appears to be workable, but you can't register your PC 
without sighted assistance.


-Original Message- 
From: Linette Sukup via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 PM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC



It's Kindle, not Kendal.

Peace.
Linette



On 9/13/2016 8:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave



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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[bj colt via Talk]

Hi Carol,

Can I ask where do the Kindle books go once you have bought them? I read 
them on my iphone as the kindle app for the pc is not accessible for me.


Is there a way to get to the books I have purchased in Amazon? I've never 
tried to access my books on amazon.


Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Live long and prosper, John

-Original Message- 
From: Carol and Roger via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 12:18 PM
To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

Hi Grumpy Dave,

I have a better suggestion.  You still purchase your Kindle books.
Instead of using the Amazon Kindle app, you can convert your files to
another format of your own choosing by using a program called Codex.  I
am placing the link here.  The program allows one to convert .pdf,
.epub, .azw or whatever file type the Amazon books are in, and other
formats from one to another.  For example, you can even convert a .docx
to a .txt or .rtf.  It is pretty easy to use and it can be run in the
Windows Explorer, at least on Win7 machines, through the context menu.
You set your default file type for output and when you select convert,
your file is automatically converted to the file you requested.  There
is also an option to choose another file type without changing your
default.  For example, you found a magazine article you wanted to read
quickly..save it as a .txt and read it quickly.  So, finally, here is
the link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5121410/Codex-2.0-setup.exe

Oh yes, I used it yesterday and was informed there is a newer version.
You can update it directly from the program.

Carol



On 9/13/2016 9:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave




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Re: Amazon's Kendal Book Reader for the PC

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

Hi Grumpy Dave,

I have a better suggestion.  You still purchase your Kindle books. 
Instead of using the Amazon Kindle app, you can convert your files to 
another format of your own choosing by using a program called Codex.  I 
am placing the link here.  The program allows one to convert .pdf, 
.epub, .azw or whatever file type the Amazon books are in, and other 
formats from one to another.  For example, you can even convert a .docx 
to a .txt or .rtf.  It is pretty easy to use and it can be run in the 
Windows Explorer, at least on Win7 machines, through the context menu.  
You set your default file type for output and when you select convert, 
your file is automatically converted to the file you requested.  There 
is also an option to choose another file type without changing your 
default.  For example, you found a magazine article you wanted to read 
quickly..save it as a .txt and read it quickly.  So, finally, here is 
the link:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5121410/Codex-2.0-setup.exe

Oh yes, I used it yesterday and was informed there is a newer version.  
You can update it directly from the program.


Carol



On 9/13/2016 9:44 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Hello,

A few years ago, Amazon put out a program that was to have made Books,
in the Kendal format, readable by using Amazon's Book reader for the PC.

I did download this Reader, but found it lacking and ended up not using
it.

Now that two or three years have gone by, does anyone on this list have
any recent experience with this Reader by Amazon?

Does it work?  Are there issues I should know about?And of course,
does it work with Window Eyes or NVDA?



Thanks for any comments,

Grumpy Dave




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RE: how to speed up web pages

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: I get that on some pages as well.
My guess is that these pages are loading continuing items like stories while
we are trying to read something like read line to read some text. I am
guessing that WE notices a change and then starts reading the pages
underlying tree from the top until it finds wherever the last line pointer
was and that could be really slow.
I don't know but I do get this behavior on some pages as well but not so
much on others.

Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:08 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: how to speed up web pages

Hey guys,

Alright, my frustration is really growing, and i need your help with 
finding a solution.  I am finding more and more web pages are extremely 
slow.  I find that when i'm on a web page with the latest firefox and 
window-eyes, i cn literally press the down or up arrow key, and 
literally count seconds from when i depress the key until window-eyes 
starts talking.  I'll sit there and count, 1, 2, 3, etc.  It's really 
annoying.  I find it particularly happens on newspaper and news sites. 
How can i get rid of this problem.  All i care about is the text. 
Pictures and other stupid images mean absolutely nothing to me. Quite 
frankly it's a huge time waster, and those little blocks of 30 seconds 
add up during the course of a day when i'm trying to be productive.  Any 
solutions?
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RE: more web frustrations

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

i: Yes, sometimes in a Webpage or even in a Desktop app I will be either
arrowing down through lines of text or tabbing around and WE will go dead
until I Restart it. In fact typing this WE went dead and I had to Restart it
to continue. Noted that after it came back an info message read that I was
not responding to the most recent message so perhaps it all has to do with
info bars, popups or something.
But, yes, this has been a new and frequent problem lately.
When WE is dead often Narrator is working, sometimes not but usually it will
work to indicate the computer itself is not locked up.
Rick USA

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: more web frustrations

Hey guys,

OK, i do not understand this at all.  This happened all day today while 
surfing the web.  I went to google, cause that's my normal search 
engine.  I'll go to the search box type in my search, then tab over to 
the search button.  A few seconds later, google is saying 1 link, i'll 
press the tab key to go through the results, and here comes silence  The 
only way to recover it, is to re-start window-eyes.  I am running the 
latest we and latest firefox.  This is not right.  Any ideas, anyone 
else experiencing similar behavior?
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