Re: dougs email.

[Brenda via Talk]

In the word groups remove the S, 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2017, at 11:43 PM, michaeel's mail via Talk 
>  wrote:
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> Hi guys i have ben trying to email doug and it comes back as un deliverable 
> from the post master.
> I had emailed him few weeks back and he answered.
> I sent last one to dgeoff...@vfogroups.com
> Cheers Michael.
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dougs email.

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

Hi guys i have ben trying to email doug and it comes back as un deliverable 
from the post master.
I had emailed him few weeks back and he answered.
I sent last one to dgeoff...@vfogroups.com
Cheers Michael.
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RE: WinEyes and licensing

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Linette,

VFO stands for Vector Freedom Optelech.
The last two names are short for two adaptive technology companies, Freedom 
Scientific being the one we've all heard a great deal about.
Vector is short for Vector Capital, the source of capital funding for the new 
company.
I learned all this through various podcasts in the adaptive technology 
community.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 10:33 PM
To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: WinEyes and licensing



Kurzweil 1000 has a variety of languages that can be selected when the 
program is being installed. Couldn't something like this be made 
available for upgrades of Window-Eyes?

By the way, what does VFO stand for?

Peace.
Linette



On 2/2/2017 2:29 PM, David via Talk wrote:
> Vaughn,
> I just wanted to hook on to one point you made. And that is the one
> about the free Office Offer of WinEyes, in comparison with the paid-for
> versions.
> You said:
>
>  "
>
> Part of my complaint is that the Window-Eyes for Office programme, which is 
> free to those who use it, get permanent access to the full install, but 
> paying customers do not."
>
> (End Of Quote).
>
> See, if you happen to own one of the required versions of Office, you
> can download WinEyes in English, German, french or Norwegian, or any of
> the other supported languages. Do you fork out enough money to pay for
> your screen reader, you all the sudden are forced, bound and locked to
> ONLY one language; even if you are in want of a change down the road. In
> addition, you are told that now, since you paid for the product, you no
> longer can install it on how many computers you want. Oh no, now you
> have a limit to your installations - at least in parts of the world. The
> reason, that is given from GWMicro and up, is that if they let you
> install an English copy of WinEyes on a computer located in Scandinavia,
> that would lead to people making pirate copies. Huh? sorry, but how come
> the Free Offer does not lead to piracy? Since they can give it away in
> all languages, why can't they give the paid-for customers free choice of
> languages? In fact, why not simply release ONE version of WinEyes,
> holding a setting that determines which language would be the active
> one, at any given time. Other manufacturers can, so why has such never
> been an alternative with this screen reader, or with Jaws?
>
> To me, and I guess a few other International users, the whole thing
> becomes even more illogical, all the time the free offer can be
> downloaded and installed in whatever language you might want.
>
> Now that most customer service seem to be gone, at least for the moment,
> I start to wonder what would make people pay for the product. If the
> free offer does give you better functionality and higher choices, and
> the paid-for version no longer receive all that much individual support,
> I really am reluctant to what benefit the 50, 100, or 175 dollar
> upgrades do give us any longer. And the day people stop paying? Is that
> the day they are awaiting, before the plug could be pulled, now fully
> supported by the fact that money stopped coming in?
>
> Sure, some users might feel it is worth to pay, simply due to them
> thereby supporting the further development. But for many users, economy
> is an issue, and when they already have paid who knows how many
> thousands through the years, and now no longer receive much benefit of
> keep paying, where would that take them? My guess is, if they want to
> see the big multitude continue to pay, there might be a need for some
> revision on the whole licensing and offering of the product line. As a
> matter of fact, since you have paid for your product, why give you a
> download window at all? Why not simply give you some kind of a log-in
> credencial, and then let your copy of the product be made available for
> downloading, anytime you might need it in the future? Fact is, they
> already do that with your free upgrades, like the recent one. I haven't
> seen any notice come up, that told me the upgrade would need to be
> downloaded within a given time scope. If you don't upgrade for two
> weeks, the upgrade will be ready for you still. But if you want your
> original, paid-for instalation copy, then you all the sudden are under
> loads of restrictions.
>
> Perhaps I am missing something. But to me this simply does not make
> logic sense. If you are under no real restriction long as you go free,
> why then is it that you are loaded with restrictions any time you pay?
> Shouldn't it be, and isn't it with many other products, the opposite way
> - Freeware with restrictions, and pay to have all your benefits?
>
> Let's just hope, whatever comes next in the way of WinEyes, Jaws, or a
> combined product, that they come up 

Re: WinEyes and licensing

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

Kurzweil 1000 has a variety of languages that can be selected when the 
program is being installed. Couldn't something like this be made 
available for upgrades of Window-Eyes?


By the way, what does VFO stand for?

Peace.
Linette



On 2/2/2017 2:29 PM, David via Talk wrote:

Vaughn,
I just wanted to hook on to one point you made. And that is the one
about the free Office Offer of WinEyes, in comparison with the paid-for
versions.
You said:

 "

Part of my complaint is that the Window-Eyes for Office programme, which is free to 
those who use it, get permanent access to the full install, but paying customers do 
not."

(End Of Quote).

See, if you happen to own one of the required versions of Office, you
can download WinEyes in English, German, french or Norwegian, or any of
the other supported languages. Do you fork out enough money to pay for
your screen reader, you all the sudden are forced, bound and locked to
ONLY one language; even if you are in want of a change down the road. In
addition, you are told that now, since you paid for the product, you no
longer can install it on how many computers you want. Oh no, now you
have a limit to your installations - at least in parts of the world. The
reason, that is given from GWMicro and up, is that if they let you
install an English copy of WinEyes on a computer located in Scandinavia,
that would lead to people making pirate copies. Huh? sorry, but how come
the Free Offer does not lead to piracy? Since they can give it away in
all languages, why can't they give the paid-for customers free choice of
languages? In fact, why not simply release ONE version of WinEyes,
holding a setting that determines which language would be the active
one, at any given time. Other manufacturers can, so why has such never
been an alternative with this screen reader, or with Jaws?

To me, and I guess a few other International users, the whole thing
becomes even more illogical, all the time the free offer can be
downloaded and installed in whatever language you might want.

Now that most customer service seem to be gone, at least for the moment,
I start to wonder what would make people pay for the product. If the
free offer does give you better functionality and higher choices, and
the paid-for version no longer receive all that much individual support,
I really am reluctant to what benefit the 50, 100, or 175 dollar
upgrades do give us any longer. And the day people stop paying? Is that
the day they are awaiting, before the plug could be pulled, now fully
supported by the fact that money stopped coming in?

Sure, some users might feel it is worth to pay, simply due to them
thereby supporting the further development. But for many users, economy
is an issue, and when they already have paid who knows how many
thousands through the years, and now no longer receive much benefit of
keep paying, where would that take them? My guess is, if they want to
see the big multitude continue to pay, there might be a need for some
revision on the whole licensing and offering of the product line. As a
matter of fact, since you have paid for your product, why give you a
download window at all? Why not simply give you some kind of a log-in
credencial, and then let your copy of the product be made available for
downloading, anytime you might need it in the future? Fact is, they
already do that with your free upgrades, like the recent one. I haven't
seen any notice come up, that told me the upgrade would need to be
downloaded within a given time scope. If you don't upgrade for two
weeks, the upgrade will be ready for you still. But if you want your
original, paid-for instalation copy, then you all the sudden are under
loads of restrictions.

Perhaps I am missing something. But to me this simply does not make
logic sense. If you are under no real restriction long as you go free,
why then is it that you are loaded with restrictions any time you pay?
Shouldn't it be, and isn't it with many other products, the opposite way
- Freeware with restrictions, and pay to have all your benefits?

Let's just hope, whatever comes next in the way of WinEyes, Jaws, or a
combined product, that they come up with better licensing terms, which
to a much higher extent reflects the fact that a great number of users
now aday are multi-lingual. And let's hope they make it low-cost and
beneficial, or simply just go free altogether. When NVDA manage to offer
people greater flexibility, and as time goes by becomes more
full-fledged, it does pose a stress on the expenses tied to either of
the mainstream screen readers.

I still feel that a good product deserve its reasonable pricing. As
such, NVDA has not yet reached the level of becoming a real alternative
for the more advanced group of users. But WinEyes, Jaws and the rest of
the mainstream readers, might have to undergo some kind of revision if
they want to advocate their high pricing. When one and same product can
be had with better advantages for free, than the 

Re: No Pop Up Read by Window-Eyes

[Brenda via Talk]

hi Barbara


CNTRL-SHIFT-W-W

Hold down shift and control and press W twice in quick succession.


I read the page and the pop-up.  You have to listen to the entire page 
being read, and the pop-up (disclaimer) is at the end.  You can tab to 
yes or no and enter on your selection.  It is a disclaimer saying you 
are leaving the government site and they cannot control what is on the 
site you are going to.  (very short paraphrase, best to read yourself).  
I would slow speech down so you can process the info as it is a long 
disclaimer.  Thing is, if you do that it will take even longer to read 
everything and get to the pop-up.  No way to just read the pop-up.



this has been aknown issue with W-E in firefox for sure, but I think 
also Internet Explorer.  When I spoke to Tech Support in the good ole 
days, they said it was issues with the web browser and not W-e.  I got 
the idea that the web browsers were doing something and G-W was not able 
to connect with the programming.



That is a very basic explanation from me who isn't very technically 
inclined so someone can probably give you a better explanation.  Back in 
the day Steve Clower or Chris Grabowski would have had a good answer for 
you.



Not sure if NVDA has the same issue as I'm not yet proficient in it.


Wonder if you could call VFO tomorrow just for fun and see what they 
say. Also, I wonder if jowls has the same issue.



hth,

Long live Window-eyes

Brenda


On 2/2/2017 7:20 PM, Barbara via Talk wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I want to use the following web site.  Click on Free filing, then select any
of the companies.

http://dor.mo.gov/personal/electronic.php#efile

I was puzzled by things.  I asked my sighted sister to look at the web page.
She says a pop up comes up asking to select yes or no to continue to an
offsite web page.   I do not find this and therefore I am stuck.  How can I
get this pop up to read?

I did alt-tab and it is not a separate window.  I tried alt-n which works on
downloads, but it did not work here.  I have Window-Eyes 9.5.4.  I have
Windows 7 and IE11.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara
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No Pop Up Read by Window-Eyes

[Barbara via Talk]

Hi Everyone,

I want to use the following web site.  Click on Free filing, then select any
of the companies.

http://dor.mo.gov/personal/electronic.php#efile

I was puzzled by things.  I asked my sighted sister to look at the web page.
She says a pop up comes up asking to select yes or no to continue to an
offsite web page.   I do not find this and therefore I am stuck.  How can I
get this pop up to read?

I did alt-tab and it is not a separate window.  I tried alt-n which works on
downloads, but it did not work here.  I have Window-Eyes 9.5.4.  I have
Windows 7 and IE11.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara
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RE: Just in passing

[Don Smith via Talk]

Yes, that is correct.
We do have a dealer close by, but, I purchased my original disc direct from
g w micro.
I had no faith in the local dealer and Ijust asked them to look up my
address and license and although I have not got the disc yet, it has only
been 3 days
Don


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Re: Just in passing

[David via Talk]

Matthew,

Am I correct in assuming, you happen to be from the North-Americas? Then 
it is likely you got your hard-copy installation disk quickly. But for 
oversea users, the lengthy delivery time, has long been an issue. Not 
sure if the oversea disks will have to be requested from the local 
dealers, who then will have to wait for some downloadable from VFO, and 
then burn it to a disk and ship it out. Or, maybe VFO in the USA has to 
burn and ship the disk to the dealer, who then ships it to you locally. 
All I know, is that in my case, we have had to order the hard-copy disk 
from the local dealer, and it sure takes weeks for it to arrive. If I 
want a downloadable, I have to manually request it from either the 
dealer or the VFO directly, and even then it takes a few days before I 
can get the link - which, like Vaughan pointed out, has a rather limited 
time-scope for downloading.


On 2/2/2017 8:49 PM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote:
> Got my DVD within a few days.--Matthew Chao
>
>
>
>
> On 2/2/2017 2:23 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Don.
>>
>> Glad that at least one paying customer is getting a level of support 
>> that should be expected.
>>
>> My experience is frustrating.
>>
>> I no longer request the DVD, as the last one took more than six weeks 
>> to arrive.  I like the option of requesting a personalised 
>> downloadable edition of the full release.
>>
>> My grumpiness with this is that I recently asked for an extension of 
>> the period before my serialised link expired.  I've been given 36 
>> hours from two different sources.IN other words - two 
>> personalised links, each available to me separately for 36 hours.
>>
>> I have laid a complaint with the AI Squared sales people.
>>
>> The Window-Eyes specific technical support has gone.  The second link 
>> I received which expired (as did the first one) before I opened the 
>> email came from VFO technical support.  The physical address is in St 
>> Petersburg.  Surely: it would have made sense to rationalise sales 
>> ahead of technical support, and emails from all over the place direct 
>> me to GW Micro.com - what a lovely place that once was!
>>
>> Part of my complaint is that the Window-Eyes for Office programme, 
>> which is free to those who use it, get permanent access to the full 
>> install, but paying customers do not.
>>
>> Don: agree with you that VFO is a funnyt name.  Why is it not VFOA, 
>> so that AI Squared is acknowledged.
>>
>> In polite company: VFO stands for "very frustrating organisation" and 
>> in less genteel gatherings, substitute frustrating for another 
>> adjective.
>>
>>
>> Vaughan.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 5:26 p.m.
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: Just in passing
>>
>> Hi Folks:
>>
>> First, I think fo is the strangest name for a company that I have 
>> ever heard.
>>
>>
>> However, I called the other day to purchase a cd with win eyes on it 
>> and although, it seemed they were a little muddled at first, but, 
>> then put me on to another person.
>>
>> They were busy and I left a message re my request thinking would they 
>> take care of it.
>>
>> Well got a call today and all is ok, the cd is being sent and that is 
>> to Canada
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
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WinEyes and licensing

[David via Talk]

Vaughn,
I just wanted to hook on to one point you made. And that is the one 
about the free Office Offer of WinEyes, in comparison with the paid-for 
versions.
You said:

 "

Part of my complaint is that the Window-Eyes for Office programme, which is 
free to those who use it, get permanent access to the full install, but paying 
customers do not."

(End Of Quote).

See, if you happen to own one of the required versions of Office, you 
can download WinEyes in English, German, french or Norwegian, or any of 
the other supported languages. Do you fork out enough money to pay for 
your screen reader, you all the sudden are forced, bound and locked to 
ONLY one language; even if you are in want of a change down the road. In 
addition, you are told that now, since you paid for the product, you no 
longer can install it on how many computers you want. Oh no, now you 
have a limit to your installations - at least in parts of the world. The 
reason, that is given from GWMicro and up, is that if they let you 
install an English copy of WinEyes on a computer located in Scandinavia, 
that would lead to people making pirate copies. Huh? sorry, but how come 
the Free Offer does not lead to piracy? Since they can give it away in 
all languages, why can't they give the paid-for customers free choice of 
languages? In fact, why not simply release ONE version of WinEyes, 
holding a setting that determines which language would be the active 
one, at any given time. Other manufacturers can, so why has such never 
been an alternative with this screen reader, or with Jaws?

To me, and I guess a few other International users, the whole thing 
becomes even more illogical, all the time the free offer can be 
downloaded and installed in whatever language you might want.

Now that most customer service seem to be gone, at least for the moment, 
I start to wonder what would make people pay for the product. If the 
free offer does give you better functionality and higher choices, and 
the paid-for version no longer receive all that much individual support, 
I really am reluctant to what benefit the 50, 100, or 175 dollar 
upgrades do give us any longer. And the day people stop paying? Is that 
the day they are awaiting, before the plug could be pulled, now fully 
supported by the fact that money stopped coming in?

Sure, some users might feel it is worth to pay, simply due to them 
thereby supporting the further development. But for many users, economy 
is an issue, and when they already have paid who knows how many 
thousands through the years, and now no longer receive much benefit of 
keep paying, where would that take them? My guess is, if they want to 
see the big multitude continue to pay, there might be a need for some 
revision on the whole licensing and offering of the product line. As a 
matter of fact, since you have paid for your product, why give you a 
download window at all? Why not simply give you some kind of a log-in 
credencial, and then let your copy of the product be made available for 
downloading, anytime you might need it in the future? Fact is, they 
already do that with your free upgrades, like the recent one. I haven't 
seen any notice come up, that told me the upgrade would need to be 
downloaded within a given time scope. If you don't upgrade for two 
weeks, the upgrade will be ready for you still. But if you want your 
original, paid-for instalation copy, then you all the sudden are under 
loads of restrictions.

Perhaps I am missing something. But to me this simply does not make 
logic sense. If you are under no real restriction long as you go free, 
why then is it that you are loaded with restrictions any time you pay? 
Shouldn't it be, and isn't it with many other products, the opposite way 
- Freeware with restrictions, and pay to have all your benefits?

Let's just hope, whatever comes next in the way of WinEyes, Jaws, or a 
combined product, that they come up with better licensing terms, which 
to a much higher extent reflects the fact that a great number of users 
now aday are multi-lingual. And let's hope they make it low-cost and 
beneficial, or simply just go free altogether. When NVDA manage to offer 
people greater flexibility, and as time goes by becomes more 
full-fledged, it does pose a stress on the expenses tied to either of 
the mainstream screen readers.

I still feel that a good product deserve its reasonable pricing. As 
such, NVDA has not yet reached the level of becoming a real alternative 
for the more advanced group of users. But WinEyes, Jaws and the rest of 
the mainstream readers, might have to undergo some kind of revision if 
they want to advocate their high pricing. When one and same product can 
be had with better advantages for free, than the paid-for copies, I am 
afraid that is a slow pull of the plug.

OK then, we do not know if something is on its way. Maybe the licensing 
already is being revised. But as things stand today, it makes you wonder 
why not spend 

RE: Caller-ID program that will work with Window-Eyes..?

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Jim and Simon,

The software I've been using on Windows 7 and it works on 10 as well can be 
found here:

http://www.ascendis.com/

When I bought it a few years back, I wrote to the developer and he gave me a 
half-off coupon code when I told him I was blind.
One note about this software is that the developer has a list of hardware 
devices he has tested to work with his software.  PC telephony is a tricky 
area, and so either something works or it doesn't and so you need the correct 
pieces if you want success.

Good luck,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Caller-ID program that will work with Window-Eyes..?

Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a W.E. friendly 
caller-ID program? I had an excellent one on my system until I upgraded 
to Windows 10.  That one no longer functions.  Any suggestions would be 
greatly appreciated! THANKS Much de

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Re: Just in passing

[Matthew Chao via Talk]

Got my DVD within a few days.--Matthew Chao




On 2/2/2017 2:23 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:

Hi Don.

Glad that at least one paying customer is getting a level of support that 
should be expected.

My experience is frustrating.

I no longer request the DVD, as the last one took more than six weeks to 
arrive.  I like the option of requesting a personalised downloadable edition of 
the full release.

My grumpiness with this is that I recently asked for an extension of the period 
before my serialised link expired.  I've been given 36 hours from two different 
sources.IN other words - two personalised links, each available to me 
separately for 36 hours.

I have laid a complaint with the AI Squared sales people.

The Window-Eyes specific technical support has gone.  The second link I 
received which expired (as did the first one) before I opened the email came 
from VFO technical support.  The physical address is in St Petersburg.  Surely: 
it would have made sense to rationalise sales ahead of technical support, and 
emails from all over the place direct me to GW Micro.com - what a lovely place 
that once was!

Part of my complaint is that the Window-Eyes for Office programme, which is 
free to those who use it, get permanent access to the full install, but paying 
customers do not.

Don: agree with you that VFO is a funnyt name.  Why is it not VFOA, so that AI 
Squared is acknowledged.

In polite company: VFO stands for "very frustrating organisation" and in less 
genteel gatherings, substitute frustrating for another adjective.


Vaughan.



-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 5:26 p.m.
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Just in passing

Hi Folks:

First, I think fo is the strangest name for a company that I have ever heard.

  


However, I called the other day to purchase a cd with win eyes on it and 
although, it seemed they were a little muddled at first, but, then put me on to 
another person.

They were busy and I left a message re my request thinking would they take care 
of it.

Well got a call today and all is ok, the cd is being sent and that is to Canada

Don

 


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RE: Just in passing

[Vaughan Dodd via Talk]

Hi Don.

Glad that at least one paying customer is getting a level of support that 
should be expected.

My experience is frustrating.

I no longer request the DVD, as the last one took more than six weeks to 
arrive.  I like the option of requesting a personalised downloadable edition of 
the full release.

My grumpiness with this is that I recently asked for an extension of the period 
before my serialised link expired.  I've been given 36 hours from two different 
sources.IN other words - two personalised links, each available to me 
separately for 36 hours.  

I have laid a complaint with the AI Squared sales people.

The Window-Eyes specific technical support has gone.  The second link I 
received which expired (as did the first one) before I opened the email came 
from VFO technical support.  The physical address is in St Petersburg.  Surely: 
it would have made sense to rationalise sales ahead of technical support, and 
emails from all over the place direct me to GW Micro.com - what a lovely place 
that once was!

Part of my complaint is that the Window-Eyes for Office programme, which is 
free to those who use it, get permanent access to the full install, but paying 
customers do not.

Don: agree with you that VFO is a funnyt name.  Why is it not VFOA, so that AI 
Squared is acknowledged.

In polite company: VFO stands for "very frustrating organisation" and in less 
genteel gatherings, substitute frustrating for another adjective.


Vaughan.



-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 5:26 p.m.
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Just in passing

Hi Folks:

First, I think fo is the strangest name for a company that I have ever heard.

 

However, I called the other day to purchase a cd with win eyes on it and 
although, it seemed they were a little muddled at first, but, then put me on to 
another person.

They were busy and I left a message re my request thinking would they take care 
of it.

Well got a call today and all is ok, the cd is being sent and that is to Canada

Don



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Re: Caller-ID program that will work with Window-Eyes..?

[goshawk on horseback via Talk]

first, sorry this isn't exactly an answer for you, but did the program you 
used previously work with win7?
if so what is it, and where can one get it please?

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim via Talk" 
To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 6:26 PM
Subject: Caller-ID program that will work with Window-Eyes..?


Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a W.E. friendly
caller-ID program? I had an excellent one on my system until I upgraded
to Windows 10.  That one no longer functions.  Any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated! THANKS Much de

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Caller-ID program that will work with Window-Eyes..?

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there FOLKS!

Was wondering if anyone might be able to suggest a W.E. friendly 
caller-ID program? I had an excellent one on my system until I upgraded 
to Windows 10.  That one no longer functions.  Any suggestions would be 
greatly appreciated! THANKS Much de


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