Hi all!
I am starting to say this to everyone.
You must use more than one screen reader to access everything. I could tell you
many examples of when NVDA accesses things and JAWS does not at all.
On the other hand, I could give you many examples of when JAWS accesses what I
need, and NVDA does
Could be a number of reasons, why the one screen reader works better
than the other, in a given situation. And without knowing more than
anyone else, it might all be guessing, should we claim to know the reasons.
For one thing, the commercial screen readers, are being developed by
ingeneers
Just getting to my email after an emergency.
I think that's a great idea Rod. It's a shame VFO claimed to support the
product at least through the website and list, and already they are
dropkicking us users. No real surprise there. We have to keep things in our
hands as much as possible.
Hi. What you said makes sense. For me there are things that actually
work better in NVDA than they do in Jaws which surprises me quite a bit.
If you use Thunderbird's message list NVDA does a far better job than
Jaws does. If you delete an unread message from the list Jaws rereads
the
No.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Iaen Cordell via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:03 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Iaen Cordell
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
Thanks, it is not a
Thanks, it is not a true implamentation of the RDP remote desktop protocol
then?
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ianc=optusnet.com...@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 1:45 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
It's similar to the remote assistants in Window-Eyes, and the JAWS tandem in
JAWS.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Josh
Thanks, Brian. We'll see if this helps Nick with the file.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Brian Moore via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:38 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Cc: Brian Moore
Subject:
Hi. alt+m for the message menu and then h to get to the attachments.
then right arrow on the one you want to get a menu of open save or delete.
On 09/11/2017 11:30 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
All,
I'm helping Nick on this list with an Excel attachment. He uses Thunderbird
and I
All,
I'm helping Nick on this list with an Excel attachment. He uses Thunderbird
and I use Outlook, so I'm not sure the easiest way for him to open the
attachment in Thunderbird. He's hearing some special characters that I'm not
getting, so I think there must be something in the way he's
yes, NVDA remote is a remote support addon and it works very good.
On 9/11/2017 10:52 AM, Iaen Cordell via Talk wrote:
What about NVDA remote?
From a bad memory I thought it was a remote desktop support add-on for NVDA.
Cheers
IC
-Original Message-
From: Talk
Josh,
This is more complicated than you are considering. I do not believe that
JSAY is a VFO product for example. Remember, too, that VFO technically owns
this list now, and the list is intended to help those who are trying to use
Window-Eyes as long as they can. They would be completely
I think a FS thinks they are above the rules. lol
-Original Message-
From: Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:51 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: window-eyes open source?
The problem is that FS has too much of a monopoly in the
What about NVDA remote?
>From a bad memory I thought it was a remote desktop support add-on for NVDA.
Cheers
IC
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ianc=optusnet.com...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:43 AM
To:
NVDA probably has to be scripted for that program then.
On 9/11/2017 9:35 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
Here's some thing I noticed about NVDA. When arrowing up and down the
message list in windows live mail 2012, NVDA doesn't say things like
replied to, forwarded, attachment like window eyes.
there was a ticket raised about it but so far nobody has made such addons.
On 9/11/2017 9:17 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
It's my understanding there is a NVDA list? Has anyone on that list
ask about a addon to give NVDA citrix and network installation server
client support?
-Original
let me correct myself here. the j-say product costs around $400 or $300.
that is for jaws. dictation bridge for all screen readers costs, and
will cost, $0.
On 9/11/2017 8:27 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
No you don't dictation bridge is being developed for jaws it won't cost
$400.
Here's some thing I noticed about NVDA. When arrowing up and down the
message list in windows live mail 2012, NVDA doesn't say things like replied
to, forwarded, attachment like window eyes.
-Original Message-
From: Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:05 PM
To:
I just wished that NVDA would support indexing when using the tripletalk
with it.
-Original Message-
From: Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:34 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Sky Mundell
Subject: RE: question about re installing wineyes
I can assure
It's my understanding there is a NVDA list? Has anyone on that list ask
about a addon to give NVDA citrix and network installation server client
support?
-Original Message-
From: Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:10 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Josh
Agree with you!
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Marvin Commerford via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:59 AM
To: Josh Kennedy via Talk
Cc: Marvin Commerford
Subject: Re: window-eyes open source?
Big
David, right on the money if I dare say so! How I wish NVDA would PUSH
something to Android! It would certainly give Voice Views, Voice Assistant,
ShinePlus and Talkback an interesting challenge and may be help those who
already use it bring their own screen reader of choice to Android land!
Big surprise! You've clearly demonstrated over time that you want
something for nothing. Harping on WE becoming open source has as much
chance of being successful as all of us getting sight. This nagging
behavior sometimes works for children with exhausted parents but this
case is much
No you don't dictation bridge is being developed for jaws it won't cost
$400.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:42 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc:
Hi Folks,
You should stop all these NVDA roomers, it is starting to sound like
alternative facts!
Here below is straight facts from the source, NVDA themselves about their
future.
There are to many people who just do not take the time to do research and go
to the source, but spread false
NVDA also works quite good with microsoft excel word and powerpoint.
There are also applications that jaws does not work good at all with and
has to be scripted.
On 9/11/2017 3:09 AM, David via Talk wrote:
You know, I too am tempted to believe, NVDA will take over some screen
reader users.
NVDA works with dragon naturally speaking, and windows speech
recognition, and it does it for free, with an addon called dictation
bridge. with jaws you have to pay an extra $400 or so for that
functionality.
On 9/10/2017 11:51 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
The problem is that FS has too
if you install NVDA addons and voices then, NVDA, becomes almost as good
as jaws.
On 9/10/2017 11:50 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
It is far from being as good as jaws!
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Loy
To Be honest with you nvda has a place for people wherejaws will not be
able to fill. NVDA does things better thenJaws will ever do.
On 9/10/2017 10:50 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
It is far from being as good as jaws!
-Original Message-
From: Talk
You know, I too am tempted to believe, NVDA will take over some screen
reader users. For one thing, as NVDA becomes yet more powerful, and
widely known, it might happen that paying authorities or cherities, will
refuse to pay hundreds (or in translated version thousands) of dollars
for Jaws.
30 matches
Mail list logo
