WLM saving an email

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi list,
I am using a win7 pc and WLM. I have forgotten how to save an email in the 
“save” directory. I do know how to save to my hard drive. However, there have 
been a couple of emails of late that I would like to save in the WLM saved 
messages directory. 
Thanks for your gracious help!
Grandpa DOS
Email: the.g...@att.net
Website: http://bartimaeus/us
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VBS run time error in WLM

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
Has anybody gotten the following run time error message in WLM? I am running a 
Win7 32bit PC using WindowEyes 9.5.4.

WindowsLiveMail.vbs - Microsoft VBScript runtime error
Line 700 Column 2
Type mismatch: 'SharedObjects(...)'

< 0x800A000D >

When I checked with Microsoft Disability Team they tested for the problem and 
think it is a WindowEyes problem.  This seems to happen always whenever I 
attempt to attach a file and often times when I initiate a new message. Any 
helpp would be appreciated.
Thanks much!
grant E. Metcalf
Email: the.g...@att.net
Home: (650) 589.6890
Website: http://bartimaeus.us/
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WLM APP annoyance

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi list,
Running win7 on a 32bit pc with window-eyes 9.5.4.
When starting this email and also trying to attach files to an email I get a 
message saying that there is a WLM APP error and I am ask “do you want to 
Ignore, Stop, Restart”, et cetera. It also says something about a VBS error in 
line 700.  Does anoybody else have this problem or know how to get rid of it?  
My grandson thinks it is a WLM problem which can not be fixed except by 
changing to a different email program. HMMM!
Thank for any help that can be provided.
Cordially,
Grant A K A Grumpy Grandpa DOS for the moment SMILE!
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pronunciation query

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Using Win7 with WE 9.5.4. I noticed recently that when reading documents where 
an apostrophy-s occurs after a name ending with the letter h that the 
apostrophy-s is not spoken in normal reading mode. Two examples:   Jehovah’s 
Isaiah’s.  If I do a word by word cursor they do speak the apostrophy-s.  Of 
course, words or names ending with another letter followed by the apostrophy-s 
do seem to read normally, i. e. brother’s, sister’s, Rod’s, and Tom’s. 
The question is:  Is there a fix or is this just something that needs a fix?  
Now that I am aware of the problem I am able to deal with it as needed.
Cordially,
Grandpa DOS, a k a Grant
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OT: Keyboard Commands for Windows Media Player

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
I am running Win7 on a 32bit PC with WindowEyes 9.5.4. I am also using Windows 
Media Player to listen to audible files and would like to know the keyboard 
comands for “fast forward, rewind, et cetera”.  I discovered control-p works 
for pause, but from there I am totally at a loss.
Thanks for the help you may give!
Grandpa DOS
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Re: Window-Eyes still has a few tricks up its sleeve. Don't give upon it yet!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

HMMM! Very interresting! Keep us posted on other discoveries! smile!
Carol wrote:Hi Folks,
You might find this interesting.  I was reading an email just now by 
screen.  I paged down and didn't hear where I left off, so paged up to 
pick up the rest of the text.  It started reading at the last point I 
had heard and read by line to the top of the email, from the place I had 
last read.  I didn't believe it would read from bottom to top, so I 
tried it again and it did the same thing.  I just thought I would pass 
on my experience, grin.  I can duplicate this in any email that is 
longer than one screen by going to the bottom of the email and pressing 
the page up key.  It will begin with the last line and read one line at 
a time until it reaches the top of the screen.  Have a good weekend, all.


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Re: Looking for Accessible Dictionary

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

CBFB years ago produced the American Heritage Dictionary in computerized 
format.

I have found it very useful.

y 


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Re: Window-Eyes and the List are Dead! REALLY?

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Thank you Tom for saying:
"I'm pretty sure Donald Trump is not invested in such a trivial little
business. I was laughing at the incessant injection of politics into
everything since the election. I've never before seen such a vitriolic
obsession."--Tom

It certainly is a sad thing when listers have nothing worthwhile to 
contribute, but, only can complain and find fault!

Again, Thanks much! - GrandPa DOS

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Re: Window Eyes and Talking communities meeting

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Ken,
Have you checked out zoom.us at
https://zoom.us/ in your searching?
I downloaded a free copy a couple of years ago and just finished listening 
to a class which uses it via the internet and/or phones. It can be accessed 
by internet or phone. You can call them at 1-888-799-9666. I have used it 
also with Window-Eyes on the internet.
Check it out. If you need more help obtaining information email me at the 
address below.

Cordially,
Grant
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Hope to find answers for three issues

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
I have three issues I hope to get resolved.
Using win7 on a 32 bit PC with Window-Eyes 9.5.4 and WLM.

1. When I boot up I get the Window-Eyes start up sounds but no Desktop menu. If 
I press the control-numpad5 command it says "unknown". To get the menu to speak 
I must press control-D and Window-Eyes then speaks and reads the desktop menu. 
Question: Is there someway of getting Window-Eyes to read the desktop on start 
up as it used to do?

2. When I select "MyDocuments" or other subdirectories, again the ability to 
cursor up and down the directory is apparently locked and silent. Pressing the 
alt-spacebar-x command does not seem to work 99% of the time when this happens. 
Going back to the menu, often 2, 3, or more times eventually will get 
Window-Eyes to read the directory and allow up and down cursoring. 
Question: Is there some fix for this problem?

3. Using WLM, I oftent get double readings of an email when I open it up. I 
think I remember someone else mentioning this problem before.
Question: What is the solution for this problem? 

Thanks Much!

Grant, also known as GrandPa DOS
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Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 - THANK YOU!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

If you think about it, there are thousands of people who are using 
Window-Eyes and are not complaining, just a few, and unfortunately, they are 
never satisfied. I could wish they were fully sighted, then, they could find 
somewhere else to gripe and something else to gripe about. And that's my 
gripe!



Ignorance is bliss! SMILE!

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saving an email in WLM

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi,
I am using win7 on a 32bit PC with WLM.  I have forgotten how to save an email 
in the saved email directory. I would appreciate a thorough reminder! SMILE
Cordially yours,
Grant, A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
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Re: GWMicro.com

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi,
Thanks to my son-in-law I have solved the problem. He hide the GWMicro 
favorite app and it no longer is popping up on my screen.

Happy Grant


-Original Message- 
From: Grant Metcalf via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 7:01 PM
To: Via Talk
Subject: GWMicro.com

Hi listers,
Often when I go to a webpage it appears that I get a “security” blocking 
from GWMicro. I can read the top of the page and then the GWMicro message 
appears. If I hit the spacebar or perhaps another key it seems to go away. 
Has anybody else had any experiences like this? What can be done to prevent 
this happening.


Grumpy Grant
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GWMicro.com

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
Often when I go to a webpage it appears that I get a “security” blocking from 
GWMicro. I can read the top of the page and then the GWMicro message appears. 
If I hit the spacebar or perhaps another key it seems to go away. Has anybody 
else had any experiences like this? What can be done to prevent this happening.

Grumpy Grant
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Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

   I pressed number 3 on the menu for "other products" and asked if 
there was support for Window-eyes. The answer from the ladt was "We don't 
have any info available as yet."  My suggestion is: Call 'em and bug 'em!" 
It might help if they get enough calls.



-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:43 AM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

Called tech support, but couldn't find which number to press for
WWindow-Eyes.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Sky Mundell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Reeva Webb'
Subject: Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

If we had that much power, GW Micro would still be a free standing company.

On 1/9/2017 12:07 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:

Hi list.  I will only say one thing.  Had the Window-Eyes community knew
that at some point Window-Eyes would be put in jeperty we would have done
something about the situation.  We would have told organisations who have
never heard of Window-Eyes about it and our fears that it would be put in
jeperty.  We would have also ensured Window-Eyes would get the contracts 
to

make it more than equal to JAWS and we would have also ensured Window-Eyes
made it up to the top in organisations.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Grant Metcalf
Subject: Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

Y'all knew that was gonna happen.

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Jan 9, 2017 9:58 AM, "Grant Metcalf via Talk"
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:

Hi listers,
I just tried calling GWMicro and Aisquared and their numbers are now
answered by VFO.
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All phone calls now directed to VFO

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
I just tried calling GWMicro and Aisquared and their numbers are now answered 
by VFO.
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Re: Need Help getting Speech back part 2

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Greetings Grumpy Dave,
I recently have been having a similar problem using win7 on a 32bit machine. 
Two things I discovered are:
1. After booting up and hearing all the start up sounds as you described, I 
get no voice response.
2. If I press the control-numpad-5 I get a message something like "context 
or content unknown".
3. If I press the windows+d keys for bringing up the desktop menu I then get 
normal speech and am able to use Window-Eyes 9.5.3 more or less as usual.
If you find this works for you also, it may be that something significant 
has changed in the win7 programs and/or window-Eyes ability to deal with 
some changes in MS win7. I haven't been able to reach anyone at GWMicro 
during the holidays to see if they are aware of any such changes as yet.


Sympatheticly yours also,
Grumpy Grant

-Original Message- 
From: Dave via Talk

Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:09 PM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Need Help getting Speech back part 2

When I turn on the Win 7 system, it goes through its usual start up
process, including playing the Windows chime at the start of Windows.
--  I even hear the Window Eyes Piano Sound as Win Eyes is to be
Starting.

But after this, there is absolutely no speech.

Attempted to start up Narrator by pressing the Windows Key and the Enter
key together.  No Speech.

Was Narrator part of Win 7?Sorry, can't remember.

Even attempted to install NVDA from a Flash drive, and again I received
the NVDA Chime, but no Speech.

The Sound card is playing sounds, but is not talking.

One of you mentioned a Mute feature.  Where is this?Is this in the
Control Panel of Windows and then under Sound?  Or is it part of Window
Eyes and is under Screen and Voice etc.

I did not see a Mute feature when in the Win Eyes 9.5 Control Panel and
then under Devices, and Synthesizers.


Grumpy Dave




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Re: unable to proofread WLM emails

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Robert, Thanks for the suggestions. As I am writing this it seems to be 
working. Although, when first trying it it did not work for me. However, 
after a re-boot it is now working and I hope it will continue. I have even 
been able to edit this paragraph as well.Smile! Grin! Laugh out loud!!!

Much thanks!
GrandPa DOS


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: unable to proofread WLM emails

Grant I have a 64 bit computer with WLM.

In order to read what I write, I open the email or use the reply or forward
command when I get to the text, go to the subject line and then back to the
text and then I can read what I wrote and can read it while I'm writing.

My problem with WLM is I cannot see what word the spell check is trying to
change.
If the spell check is giving me a word, that's usually OK. But if it has no
suggestions, then I don't know what word it is stopping on.

-Bob Ringwald



-Original Message- 
From: Grant Metcalf via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:20 PM
To: Via Talk
Subject: unable to proofread WLM emails

Hi Listers,
Using a win7, 32bit desktop pc:
When I am writiing or ansering an email I am unable to proofread what I am
writing in Windows Live Mail. This also means that my braille edge display
is blank.
I was under the impression that the command
alt-space x
would solve the problem but it does not. Also, moving off the email and back
again does not seem to help the problem.
Any helpful suggestions will be grately appreciated.
Also, my apologies for any typos. Smile!

Thankfully yours,
Grant, A.K.A. GrandPa DOS
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unable to proofread WLM emails

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Listers,
Using a win7, 32bit desktop pc:
When I am writiing or ansering an email I am unable to proofread what I am 
writing in Windows Live Mail. This also means that my braille edge display is 
blank. 
I was under the impression that the command 
alt-space x 
would solve the problem but it does not. Also, moving off the email and back 
again does not seem to help the problem. 
Any helpful suggestions will be grately appreciated.
Also, my apologies for any typos. Smile!

Thankfully yours,
Grant, A.K.A. GrandPa DOS
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question about paring WE with HIMS and paragraph symbols

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Listers,
I use the Braille Edge 40 as my braille display with my win7 32 bit pc and 
WindowEyes 9.5.3. 
In the word processors for HIMS I can display the symbol for a new paragraph 
which is dots 1246 and dots 1234.
When I am reading or writing in NotePad on my pc, I have not been able to get 
the paragraph symbol to show up. Has anyone on the list discovered how to do 
this using WindowEyes?
I called HIMS and they said that it is strictly up to the specifics of which 
pc, screen reader and operating system. 
If you have been able to get a HIMS braille display to work with WindowEyes and 
particularly to get the “new paragraph” symbol to show up, I would appreciate 
knowing how it is done.

Thanks much!
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.g...@att.net
Phone: (650) 589.6890
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Re: for those using a Braille display

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Robin,
I use a HIMS Braille Edge 40 as a display with my Win7 desktop PC and 
WindowEyes 9.5.3. It also has notetaker capabilities which I personally have 
not used much at all.
I would suggest you speak with the sales staff at HIMS Inc. The phone number 
is:

888 520-4467
They will be better able to answer your questions.

Cordially yours,
Grant Metcalf
650 589-6890
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question, one time only MS Answer Desk phone number

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Linette,
Here is the 800 phone number you can call for help from the Microsoft Answer 
desk.


1-800-936-5900

They answer the phone between 6 A.M. and 10 P.M. Monday through Friday PST. 
Also shorter hours on Saturday and Sunday.

They should be able to answer all your questions.
Best wishes.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:26 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question, one time only

this is the link for the extended free support for the free windows 10
download.
copy and paste it into the browser if it won't load because the link is 
wraping

the screen.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=(987140d86cc457c48e81c1d6e3c2bdc7)(256380)(2459594)(TnL5HPStwNw-gcP3sqVEUXEMbAgHFGI6mQ


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Linette Sukup ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: question, one time only

  I don't think there is such a thing.  Windows 10 is just,
Windows 10.

There aren't any specialized versions of it for screenreaders.




On 12/8/2016 11:55 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



Yes, I know that this is not directly WE-related, but if/when I get it, I 
will be using Window-Eyes. What is the link to get the free screen reader 
compatible version of Windows 10? I searched two "blindness" sites and 
couldn't find it. If I am out of bounds with this query, someone who knows 
the answer can email me off-list or via carrier pigeon.

Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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Re: Looking for duplicates suggestion

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Dave,
One thought I have and which I have used in various ways with WordPad is =
to use the=20
control-h find and replace command. I am not sure what your source file =
might be, and so such an idea might not work for you, but it is possible =
if you can use WordPad and probably MSWord as well.=20
So then, find a number, copy or save it to another file and delete the =
rest of that number. Repeat until done.
Cordially yours,
Grumpy Grant, A.K.A. Grandpa DOS

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Response to Dve about WindowEyes and and the Shark

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi dave,
You have many good points with respect to business expenses and compotition. 
Unfortunately, The Shark got the government involved in purchasing their 
product and so made it difficult for other screen reader programs to be as 
well funded as VFO is. I suspect that because the government is so involved 
with JFW it will be the primary product for VFO dispite our preferences. 
Grandpa DOS will never purchase the Shark, but if I change, it will probably 
be to NVDA or perhaps Narrator should I have the money to spend. The other 
unfortunate thing is that all those who have taxable income will be paying 
for the Shark anyway. To often big business and government work 
hand-in-hand. Weep out loud!


Grandpa DOS

O 


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O.T.: Cell phones

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Sunday my Odin Mobile phone stopped working. I like its design and simplicity. 
I am wondering about other options which provide voice/speech access. I do not 
care about internet features, just the ability to make and receive calls, 
perhaps text messages. One phone suggested is the L G Terra, a flip phone. 
Below is my email and phone info. Feel free to contact me off list.
Cordially yours,

Grant Metcalf
Email: the.g...@att.net
Home phone: (650) 589.6890
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Re: history of window eyes

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

I finally remembered the DOS screen reader I used before WindowEyes. It was 
Provox, written by Chuck Hallenbach. Truthfully, Grandpa DOS often wishes he 
could go back to those good old days! Smile! I still have my version 7 copy 
and just maybe I will do back.


Grant Metcalf A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
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closing the settings menu

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Greetings listers,
After adjusting some settings for Window-Eyes 9.5.3 I have been finding the 
heading “windw-eyes – explorerframe.set” when I alt-tab through the open 
documents and directories. How can I close this so that it does not keep 
appearing?
Grant
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Re: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 AnniversaryUpdate: The Results Will Surprise You!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

One additional thought to Vaughan's comments is that Microsoft does provide 
WindowEyes with MS Word and that being true, it also may indicate further 
improvements for Narrator in the future. Never liked the Shark!


Grant Metcalf, AKA Grandpa DOS

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Re: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

To those infavor of government intervention,
Have you forgotten that the Shark was highly promoted by governmental 
involvement? Do you think that getting the government involved will 
probably?possibly? and/or impossibly! help the cause of WindowEyes? I have 
my sincere doubts!



-Original Message- 
From: via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:46 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Great idea. Not!!!
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Karyn Campbell via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:21 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: VFO acquisition of Ai Squared

Darrell,

I would agree with that due to the anticompetetive nature of this so-called
deal.

Hoepfully the Dept. of Justice will stop this one.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with
Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
machines.






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Fw: Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has A Serious Problem (the article)

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hello there.

The Forbes article was hidden behind some "Welcome" script that wouldn't remove 
itself unless I allowed its site to save cookies on my machine, which I did not 
do.  But, I did end up finding a text feed of the article.  What follows below 
(which describes Microsoft's new "strong-arm" tactic) is that article.  Hope 
this helps.


Jan 2, 2016 @ 05:30 PM
Microsoft Warns Windows 7 Has Serious Problems
Gordon Kelly , Contributor

Speaking to Windows Weekly, Microsoft Marketing chief Chris Capossela explained 
that users who choose Windows 7 do so “at your own risk, at your own peril” and 
he revealed Microsoft has concerns about its future software and hardware 
compatibility, security and more.

“We do worry when people are running an operating system that’s 10 years old 
that the next printer they buy isn’t going to work well, or they buy a new 
game, they buy Fallout 4, a very popular game, and it doesn’t work on a bunch 
of older machines,” Capossela stated. “And so, as we are pushing our ISV 
[Independent Software Vendor] and hardware partners to build great new stuff 
that takes advantage of Windows 10 that obviously makes the old stuff really 
bad and not to mention viruses and security problems.”

He also stressed it is “so incredibly important to try to end the fragmentation 
of the Windows install base” and to get users to a “safer place”.

There’s only one problem with Capossela’s statements: they are complete rubbish.

Windows 7 is no less secure than Windows 10 (it will be supported until 2020) 
and no less compatible with new hardware and software. In fact its far greater 
market share means it is developers’ priority and has greater compatibility 
with legacy programmes and peripherals. If Fallout 4 won’t run on your Windows 
7 computer, it will be upgrading your components not installing Windows 10 
which fixes that.

As for fragmentation, the only issue that creates is for Microsoft and its 
target of getting one billion devices running Windows 10 within 2-3 years of 
release. And this is where the true motivation for Capossela’s statements 
become clear:

“We think every machine that is capable of running Windows 10 we should be 
doing everything we possibly can to get people to move to Windows 10…We are 
going to try to find that right balance, but we just know there’s a lot of 
people out there who constantly kick the can down the street without a little 
bit more of a, frankly, a push.  And so, there’s no doubt with a base as big as 
ours, it is hard to move anyone to a new model without angering some people. We 
don’t want to anger anybody, but we do feel a responsibility to get people to a 
much better place, and Windows 10 is a much better place than Windows 7. We 
will always give you a way out, but we’re trying to find the right threat 
balance.”

This phrase – “threat balance” – is telling. Microsoft has been cranking up the 
pressure on Windows 7 and Windows 8 users to upgrade and, in my opinion, the 
‘balance’ was replaced by ‘threat’ a long time ago due to mandatory Windows 10 
downloads, automatic upgrade attempts and now Capossela’s claims which add up 
to nothing more than deliberate misinformation designed to unsettle users.


As I’ve written before, at its core Windows 10 is a very capable operating 
system with immense promise but it is also overly controlling and I can respect 
those Windows 7 and Windows 8 users who choose to stay where they are. And this 
is the part Microsoft has forgotten: technically it keeps giving users a 
choice, but by enforcing nagging pop-ups, cutting opt-out options and spreading 
groundless fear for the average user it appears there is no choice at all…



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hetero- or homo- Yes! or NO!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hello there all you Wordsmiths!
The following 3 definitions are taken from the American Heritage Dictionary. 

* heteronym  noun. One of two or more words that have identical spelling but 
different meanings and pronunciations, as row (a line) and row (a fight).

* homograph noun. One of two or more words that have the same spelling but 
differ in origin, meaning, and sometimespronunciation.

* homonym  noun. One of two or more words that have the same sound and often 
the same spelling but differ in meaning.

Everybody is right! Smile!

Grandpa DOS
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Re: Copying large Blocks of Text

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

HI,
Grandpa DOS does not use Word, however, when I have a large section to copy, 
I first cut off the top of the document and then the bottom, after which I 
then save the portion I want to another document name.  I know! That's doin' 
it the hard way. smile!

Grant, A.K.A. Grandpa DOS

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still getting Windows update message

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Listers,
My daughter installed GWX Control Panel for me yesterday. This morning when I 
started my Win7 PC I got a message saying that Windows Updates were available 
and that the next time I booted my computer they would be installed, or if left 
on, they would be installed at 3 a.m.  I did not hear anything about Windows 
10, but I am wondering if my installation of GWX has been done correctly and/or 
if this is just a Win7 update? Any knowledgable advice or info will be 
appreciated.
Cordially yours,
Grant
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silencing "heading 1" in I.E. or "html files"

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi list,
I am using WE 9.4, Win7 Home Premium SP1 on a 32bit PC.
Using Internet Explorer 11, when cursoring thru an HTML file or on the web, I 
keep getting the message “heading 1” or heading 2”, et cetera, which can become 
annoying after while. Is there a way to turn off this seemingly automatic 
announcement when cursoring line by line? 
Thanks Much, 
Grant Metcalf, AKA. Grandpa DOS
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creating a save folder in WLM

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
I would like to create a folder for saving emails in Windows Live Mail. I am 
using windows HP 7 on a 32bit PC and I believe the latest version of WLM with 
Windows-Eyes 9.3.1. If there is instructions written somewhere, that also would 
be helpful. 
Cordially yours,
Grant
Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
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Re: How do you add an email address to WLM Multiple list?

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

I use WLM, however, I am not familiar with the term multi or category. I am 
guessing it means multiple addresses in a list. Since I do not use such I 
cannot be of help other than to suggest that you might call the the 
Microsoft Disability Team and ask them how this can be done.

Best wishes.
Grant


-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 7:44 AM
To: Talk
Subject: How do you add an email address to WLM Multiple list?

On Feb 1 I sent the following question to the List. I did not get even one
response.

They now call a multiple list a category.

WLM
WE 9.2
Windows 10.

How do I add addresses to my multiple address list, now called a category?

Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet
Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing)
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV

I didn't make it to the gym today. That makes five years in a row.
I changed the name of my bathroom from John to Jim. So now I can say, "I go
to the Jim every day."

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subdirectory help!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi,
Using win7 on 32bit PC. Somehow caused my Document directory to be inverted. 
How do I return to the a thru z top to bottom order?
Thanks!
Grant
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WLM writing and reading what is written

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi,
So far I am not having any problems reading emails in WLM. However, when I am 
replying to an email and sometimes writing an original email I have been unable 
to proof read what I have written. Any suggestions?

Thanks much!

Grant Metcalf
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Re: questions about braille displays and switching from Jaws

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi Eden,
I use the HIMS Braille Edge 40 with WE9.3.1 and it seems to work OKAY! I 
presume that which ever HIMS product you are using will work well with 
WindowEyes


---.
Cordially,
Grant Metcalf
Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
Website: http://bartimaeus.us/
--Original Message- 
From: Eden Kizer via Talk

Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:02 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: questions about braille displays and switching from Jaws

Hi, I am wanting to switch from Jaws because I do not like the way it has 
little support for the braille sense, and I do not like the focus. How hard 
will this be for me, and is it actually true there are more commands? I am 
tired of moving between my braille keyboard and qwerty keyboard all the 
time. I would appreciate anyone who use the Hims displays, especially the 
sense ones, could help me offlist. I am hoping the transition might not be 
too difficult. Thank you.

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Re: Seeking Information on Braille Displays

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

,greet+s li/]s1

I just wrote the greeting in contracted braille as well as this sentence 
using my braille edge 40 keyboard.
Using the standard keyboard now I have been for years also using it without 
a 6 or 8 dot feature to write and/or code braille files as well. Yes, it can 
be done with both keyboards with a little experimentation and practice. 
Admittedly, it ain't perfect yet. smile!
However, I am clueless about blue tooth and telephone with regard to the 
Braille Edge 40.


Cordially yours,
Grant Metcalf
Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
Website: http://bartimaeus.us/



-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:34 AM
To: Barbara ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Seeking Information on Braille Displays

I think I learned that window eyes doesn't have braille input.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Barbara via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 12:25 PM
To: 'Ray Campbell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Seeking Information on Braille Displays

I know someone else gave a comprehensive response.  I do have a 40 cell
Braille Edge acquired early this year.  It meets all your criteria with one
small exception.  Keep in mind I do not have a comprehensive knowledge of
what other models can do, so this may not be unusual.  I can input using
braille into my i-phone.  I cannot input directly using braille to the
computer.  I do not know if this is because of the technology of the Braille
Edge or Window-Eyes.  The Braille Edge has a built-in Note Pad.  For the
Note Pad, you can write in braille.  The Note Pad uses a SD card for storing
all your files etc.  So what I do is take the SD card out and insert it into
my computer where I can transfer files both to and from the SD card.  So in
that sense you can write in braille and get it to your computer.  I am happy
with it.

Barbara

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Ray Campbell via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:32 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Blind
Information Technology Specialists discussion list ;
[leaders...@acblists.org] ; 
; ic...@acblists.org
Subject: Seeking Information on Braille Displays

Hello All:

I am looking to replace my current Braille display and would like some
information on potential replacements that are available.  While I won't be
putting any money down right away, I'm in a position where I'm able to put
funds aside with the idea of purchasing sometime in early Spring, 2016.

The main criteria required in a Braille display for me are:
1.  that it have Bluetooth Connectivity along with USB connectivity.  That
way, I can connect the display using Bluetooth to work with my MacBook Pro,
iPhone and via USB to my Windows 8.1 machine which I'll be upgrading to
Windows 10 early in 2016.
2.  That it work with Window-Eyes.  While I have JAWS on my PC and of
course, use VoiceOver on the Mac and the iPhone, Window-Eyes is the primary
screen reader I use on the PC.
3.  That the display offer Braille input capability to the computer and the
phone.  While it's something I wouldn't use as often as other features,
having the ability to do input using Grade II Braille would be an important
nice to have feature.  Also, while I'm not looking for a full-fledged
notetaker, if the display have the capability where I can use it to take
some toes then transfer these to the computer, that would be nice.
4.  the display needs to have at least 20 cells.  I will be using this unit
for, among other things, reading information during ACB Board meetings and
in other settings.  I'd be looking for a unit with at least 20 cells, 32
would be preferred.

Two displays which have been suggested to me are the Brailliant by HumanWare
and the Braille Edge.  I'll be prepared to spend up to about $2,500.  I'd
like to know if people have other display ideas that you think would meet my
needs.  Please try and let me know who makes a given display; I have access
to some distributors nearby so want to be able to see demonstrations of
displays before I put my money down if possible.  If you would prefer to
communicate about this via phone, please email me privately with a phone
number and best times to call and I'll reach out to you; I'm in the U.S.
Central time zone.  Thanks in advance everyone for any help.


Ray Campbell
ray153...@gmail.com
Blog: farmers-boy.livejournal.com
Twitter: @packerbackerray
Facebook: www.facebook.com/packerbackerray

Join me in supporting the Illinois Council of the Blind through our GoFundMe
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updating of Window 7 HaHa!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Hi listers,
I have a 32biyt PC still running Win7 Home Premium Service Pack 1. For some 
reason I cannot explain at the moment, I decided to install and run Virtual 
View. I could not get it to work, and, so I called AISquared and Dave helped me 
install all the necessary parts. After that he discovered that I did not have 
any “Windows Features” in my system. HMMM!
I called Microsoft Disabilities and they re-installed Win7 with the Windows 
Features. Even with the “TIFF” feature turned on nothing seemed to work.
Well, I also discovered that during the update of Win7 my HP Laser Jet software 
was voided, my Duxbury Braille Translater settings changed, and many of my 
directories/subdirectories relocated. With the gracious help of Peter at IRTI, 
Chris Grabowsky and sighted members of the family after about 5 days I was 
finally able to get most things back into a familiar working order. Updating 
isn’t everything it is cracked up to be! or is it?
OH! BTW, I still haven’t tried to get Virtual View to running, although the 
webinar is awaiting my attention. smile!
Thankfully yours,
Grant, A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
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attaching files to Windows Live Mail

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Greetings,
Using Win7 32bit PC with WE 9.2. Recently I have not been able to attach files 
to my WLM emails. I was using the alt-II , I, A commands to attach but now when 
I press alt-I there is a ding and no other response. What have I done wrong? or 
what am I doing wrong? 
Also, I just downloaded the WLM script in the last hour. Can somebody explain 
to me how to start it working?
Contrary to the old proverb, Ignorance is “not” bliss!
Cordially yours,
Grant Metcalf, A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
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OT: reading attachments in WLM

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Greetings,
I have a MagicJack phone and when messages are left on it, it sends a 
message.wav file to my email account. The text part of the message says I can 
double click the attachment to listen to the message or save it to my PC. Can 
anybody tell me how to double click or listen to the .wav attachment without 
saving it?
I am using WE 9.2 with Windows Live Mail 2012 and a win7 32 bit PC.
Thanks for any help you may provide.
Grant E. Metcalf
Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
Phone: 650-754-4207
Email: the.g...@att.net
Website: http://bartimaeus.us/
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reading Hebrew or Greek letters questions

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

I have been adviced to purchase Vocalizer Express in order to get Window-Eyes 
to pronounce Hebrew and Greek alphabet letters. I am not necessarily interested 
in listening to the languages spoken, only the letters of occasional words 
which occur in Briefs that I am reading and/or editing. Either speech or 
braille display would be useful.
Thanks for any practical suggestions with which you may have had experience.

Grant
Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
Phone: 650 589-6890
Email: the.g...@att.net
Website: http://bartimaeus.us/
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Re: Screen Reader History

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

I first started with a word progessor program written by William Brunot for 
his blind wif in 1985. Soon I learned about VideoVoice wirtten by a blind 
Programmer, Deborah Norling. Before long I discovered Chuck Hallenbeck's 
Provox which I was using until 2013 when my Toshiba laptop died. However, 
along the way in 1998 the computer lab instructor at the Eat Bay Center for 
the Blind, Connie Skeen, insisted that I learn to use Window Eyes and 
Win95-98. Because of my reluctance to leave the MS DOS environment she 
nickmaned me Grandpa DOS. My daughter Pam and I took a Turbo Pascal 
programming class together 1989 and a Dos batch file programming class in 
1994. I have greatly appreciated what Doug and his crew have done over the 
years and will continue using Window Eyes, however, I haven't forgotten that 
Free DOS is out there and maybe, just maybe I will go gack. Smile! And 
that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Grant, A.K.A. Grandpa DOS


-Original Message- 
From: Marvin Commerford via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:22 PM
To: David Goldfield ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Screen Reader History


And now Doug and Dan are with their third company together.  I remember
that I really wanted a Sounding Board from Computer Aids Corporation
which Dan designed.  For a short time I was sad when I learned that CA
had closed down.  Doug and Dan got GW Micro rolling and the first thing
I did when I got my first IT job was to order that Sounding Board,
Vocal-Eyes 1.0, their Braille Talk braille translation program, and the
Noteworthy and calcworthy programs they had.  GW's products really
helped make it possible for me to earn a good living.

On 8/2/2015 7:30 PM, David Goldfield via Talk wrote:

Jeff,
Thank you for sharing that amazing piece of history. There are so many
products which we use on a daily basis and we know little about the
product's origins and its inventors. I believe that someone started an
assistive technology history wiki and your story should definitely be
submitted. Is Malcom still with us?

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
www.davidgoldfield.info

On 8/2/2015 8:21 PM, Jeff Samco via Talk wrote:

In 1985 I bought a used IBM PC with the same 256 KB of memory and 2
double-sided floppy disk drives for only $3,000. I worked for the
National Park Service in Yosemite and a coworker of mine, Malcom
Holser, wrote a screen reader program for me to use with an Echo PC
serial synthesizer. Malcom came up with the name Vocal-Eyes and later
sold the program to Computer
Aids Corporation. However, they were strict on including the word
talk in most all their software so it became Screen Talk. Later, I
was pleased when GW Micro picked up and used the name Vocal-Eyes.
Jeff

At 03:51 PM 8/2/2015, you wrote:

I got my first IBM clone (256K of RAM) at this time in 1985, and was
running Screen-Talk before Computer Aids Corporation added the Prokey
macros. A SET file was about 128 bytes long, and I edited some of
them with Edlin for better compatibility with my Votrax Personal
Speech System. Many times I'm amazed that this Windows stuff works at
all.
Windows 3.1 came out in 1990, and the first screen reader for Windows
was OutSpoken, which was first demonstrated in July of 1992.
Window-Eyes for Windows 3.1 came out in 1995, and it could first run
Windows 95 in 1997.

Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 2:49 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

Such memories, got my first Apple 2 e in 1983.  Anyone remember file
talk?  Got an ibm clone in 85 and ran screen talk with prokey.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 2
Aug 2015, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:


I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a
computer that I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal
eyes on it.  But I was so used to the Artic that I didn't like the
vocal eyes.  Yes, diskettes, the five inch soft ones and the
3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I still have them! Pam.

-Original Message- From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

cursor movement issues

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

Greetings,
Using WE9.1 on a 32bit PC.
I have been having problems with my cursor moving up or down the list of 
files in a directory or subdirectory. When opening a directory or 
subdirectory often pushing the cursor provides no speech or movement down 
the list. The same thing is true when I press a the letter beginning a 
filename. Sometimes closing the directory and returning to the desktop will 
solve the problem, sometimes not. Also rebooting often solves the problem 
for a time. I have found no satisfactory solution for this very annoying 
issue.

Thank you for providing helpful solutions.
Grant
Bartimaeus Alliance of the Blind, Inc.
Website: http://bartimaeus.us/

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Re: Have you taken the WebAIM survey? Make sure your voice is heard!

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

UGH!
I took it and when I got to the bottom everything locked up and I had to 
reboot. Do not know if my favorable answers regarding WindowEyes was 
registered or subverted by a competitor. smile

Grandpa DOS


-Original Message- 
From: M Dorn via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:21 AM
To: Jeremy Curry ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Have you taken the WebAIM survey? Make sure your voice is 
heard!


I filled out the survey and hit the submit survey button.  I got
another page asking about reviewing the responses and it said to hit
the submit survey button again.  I hit Enter and Spacebar on that
button about a dozen times, but that message never went away.  They
should have asked, How does it make you feel when you spend your
time filling out a form like our survey, only to have the submit not
work?  It makes me feel like I've wasted my time and effort.

Marilyn Dorn
At 07:49 AM 7/7/2015, you wrote:

Greetings Ai Squared Customers,

Make sure that your voice is heard in the latest WebAIM survey.  Since this 
is the only survey of its kind, many organizations often use it to 
determine which screen reader and magnifier they will support.  You will 
find both Window-Eyes and ZoomText on the survey list regarding what 
technology you use.  If you have not already done so, we highly encourage 
you to take a few minutes today to complete the survey, which is located at 
http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey6/.


If you know a Window-Eyes or ZoomText user, please help spread the word.

Thanks!

Jeremy
Jeremy Curry
Director of Product Management
Ai Squared, Inc.
Phone: (802) 362-3612
Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com
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me too: Question About WLM

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

talk I have just started using WLM and listening to

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:44 AM
To: Talk
Subject: Question About WLM

Windows 7
WE 9.1
WLM

I only see subject lines.

Had trouble with something being crupted. Got it fixed and running new 
version of Windows 7.


I used to be able to see who the email was from and also the subject line. 
Now I only see the subject line.


In order to find out who the email is from, I have to open the email and do 
a ctrl R.


Any suggestions?



Bob Ringwald Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet
Fulton Street Jazz Band
916/ 806-9551
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Amateur (ham) Radio K6YBV

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Re: which version of windows should I get

[Grant Metcalf via Talk]

   Jim,
I currently have windows 7 running on a 32 bit machine purchased much IRTI. 
Will the recommendations you made to Bud work with my current PC or is it 
much better to upgrade to a larger PC?


Thanks.

Grant Metcalf
email:  theg...@dslextreme.com

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