Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-28 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Yes, you are correct - it's Windows 8.1, thanks for the suggestions.

On 2/28/2020 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
When you said "8.4" you really meant Windows 8.1, which was the last one 
before Windows 10.
If you meant Window-Eyes 8.4, it is not going to work on Windows 10 at 
all. You should be running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 if possible.
For installing Windows 10, if it is an older version, you can get 
Narrator started with Windows-Enter. For the versions of the last couple 
of years, you can start Narrator with ctrl-Windows-Enter. When I did an 
install back in 2015, the disability answer desk didn't exist. But I put 
an AM radio near the computer to get a sense of whether there was disk 
activity, the processor was waiting for input, etc. This helped a little.

Also, Aira or BeMyEyes might be helpful during the setup process.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD

-Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:29 PM
To: Loy Green via Talk
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: A Question Or Two

Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later.

On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work 
with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was 
sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it 
sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well 
on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all 
three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 
to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would 
help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it 
yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" 


To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Nick Sarames" 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: A Question Or Two


So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest 
Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 
8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with 
Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my 
question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should 
I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do 
much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of 
food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the 
Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote 
assist, and if so, would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-28 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
When you said "8.4" you really meant Windows 8.1, which was the last one 
before Windows 10.
If you meant Window-Eyes 8.4, it is not going to work on Windows 10 at all. 
You should be running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 if possible.
For installing Windows 10, if it is an older version, you can get Narrator 
started with Windows-Enter. For the versions of the last couple of years, 
you can start Narrator with ctrl-Windows-Enter. When I did an install back 
in 2015, the disability answer desk didn't exist. But I put an AM radio near 
the computer to get a sense of whether there was disk activity, the 
processor was waiting for input, etc. This helped a little.

Also, Aira or BeMyEyes might be helpful during the setup process.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD

-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:29 PM
To: Loy Green via Talk
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: A Question Or Two

Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later.

On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with 
Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I 
started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually 
works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also 
a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed 
but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. 
Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the 
Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. 
Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" 


To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Nick Sarames" 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: A Question Or Two


So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes 
and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for 
certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern 
is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more 
difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before 
worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and 
e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous 
products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to 
install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend 
it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-28 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
matters not which you download, but be assured that windows ten is a lot 
easier than people believe it is.


Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

cur...@calweb.com

On 2/27/2020 10:55 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
It's interesting how experiences vary. I found 8.1 & WE to work well 
together. Do you think I should download Jaws before or after I 
download Windows 10?


On 2/28/2020 1:25 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:
window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it 
ever did with 8.1


for 8.1 didn't have any start menu.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

cur...@calweb.com

On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest 
Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 
8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with 
Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my 
question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? 
Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really 
don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional 
ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible 
for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using 
remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-27 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
It's interesting how experiences vary. I found 8.1 & WE to work well 
together. Do you think I should download Jaws before or after I download 
Windows 10?


On 2/28/2020 1:25 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:
window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it 
ever did with 8.1


for 8.1 didn't have any start menu.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

cur...@calweb.com

On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest 
Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 
8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with 
Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my 
question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should 
I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do 
much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of 
food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the 
Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote 
assist, and if so, would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-27 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it 
ever did with 8.1


for 8.1 didn't have any start menu.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

cur...@calweb.com

On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest 
Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 
8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with 
Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my 
question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should 
I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do 
much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of 
food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the 
Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote 
assist, and if so, would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-27 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk

Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later.

On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote:
I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with 
Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. 
I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE 
actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. 
There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen 
readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should 
not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or 
you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. 
Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" 


To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Nick Sarames" 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: A Question Or Two


So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest 
Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 
8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with 
Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my 
question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should 
I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do 
much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of 
food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the 
Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote 
assist, and if so, would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: A Question Or Two

2020-02-27 Thread Loy Green via Talk
I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with 
Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I 
started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually 
works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a 
good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but 
mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. 
Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the 
Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - 
From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" 

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Nick Sarames" 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM
Subject: A Question Or Two


So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes 
and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for 
certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is 
that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to 
learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about 
Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and 
the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it 
possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using 
remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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A Question Or Two

2020-02-27 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest 
Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). 
If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 
but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is 
it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws 
before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than 
surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and 
miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft 
Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, 
would you recommend it?


If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free.

nicksara...@msn.com

Thanks in advance.

Nick Sarames
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-17 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
This won't be of any help to you, Lynn. But I thought I'd toss it out 
there for others.


After upgrading my four year old system to Windows 10 I eventually 
decided to do a clean install of Windows 10, which can only be done 
after the upgrade.
I then uninstalled all programs with limited registration counts before 
doing the clean install of Windows 10. The clean install improved the 
performance of my system significantly because, at least in part, the 
Windows registry is a digital junkyard after years of installations, 
upgrades, and updates. Power users often do a clean install once a year 
for this reason.


I then of course had to reinstall everything. But it was certainly worth 
it. The boost in overall system performance was very noticeable.


Regards,
Tom


On 4/17/2016 12:24 AM, Lynn White via Talk wrote:

Yes please do read carefully.  I made the mistake of installing Windows
10 and tried to roll back to Windows 7 and instead reset my machine.

Now, I'll never be able to go back to Windows 7 and my copy of Cakewalk
is no longer good.

On 4/16/2016 11:00 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Rob,

Here's the Microsoft site where you can get the tool, and I recommend you
read the page carefully to evaluate your options carefully:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10


Good luck,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
Of Robert Byers via Talk
Sent: April 17, 2016 11:30 PM
To: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes
Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or
two


If possible, I also would like this tool.

Rob.


On 17-Apr-16 8:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

OK, I give up.

Can someone please send me the link to download the media tool to
upgrade to Windows 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 PC running Home Premium?
I would even be pleased to burn it to disk or a flash drive..  Thank
you.

Carol


On 4/16/2016 4:48 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded
the Media tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
"2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at
that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his
appearing. "
- Original Message -
From: Larry Higgins via Talk
To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
question or two


I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It
is now
3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time
period.

I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go.
Will let
everybody know how things progress.

On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
> That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can
take a
> couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media
tool in
> a new message or I can email you the link off list.
> Kenny Peyatt
>
> On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so,
where.
>>
>> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really
don't
>> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even
taking
>> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has
been
>> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've
checked the
>> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I
guess that
>> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder
to be
>> looking for files in the process of being created or in this
case,
>> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as
well.
>>
>> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this
may be
>> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't
understand
>> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is
going at all.
>>
>> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
>>
>> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to
find that
>> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
>>
>> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I
think
>> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
>&g

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-17 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Here is the link to the media tool. As was previously suggested, read 
the info carefully. That is always good advice anyway.


Good luck,

Larry

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10


On 4/17/2016 10:29 PM, Robert Byers via Talk wrote:


If possible, I also would like this tool.

Rob.


On 17-Apr-16 8:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

OK, I give up.

Can someone please send me the link to download the media tool to
upgrade to Windows 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 PC running Home Premium?  I
would even be pleased to burn it to disk or a flash drive.. Thank you.

Carol


On 4/16/2016 4:48 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded
the Media tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
"2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness,
which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and
not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. "
   - Original Message -
   From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
   Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
question or two


   I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It is
now
   3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time
period.

   I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go. Will
let
   everybody know how things progress.

   On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
   > That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a
   > couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media
tool in
   > a new message or I can email you the link off list.
   > Kenny Peyatt
   >
   > On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
   >>
   >> Michael,
   >>
   >> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
   >>
   >> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really
don't
   >> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even
taking
   >> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been
   >> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked 
the
   >> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess 
that
   >> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder 
to be
   >> looking for files in the process of being created or in this 
case,

   >> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as
well.
   >>
   >> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this 
may be

   >> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't
understand
   >> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going
at all.
   >>
   >> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
   >>
   >> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find
that
   >> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
   >>
   >> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I 
think

   >> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
   >>
   >> Thanks,
   >>
   >> Larry
   >>
   >> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
   >>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
   >>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10
folder
   >>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
   >>> Cheers Michael.
   >>>
   >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
   >>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
   >>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>> Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
   >>> question or two
   >>>
   >>> Larry,
   >>>
   >>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download
and
   >>> start the download  from the beginning again.
   >>>
   >>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
   >>>
   >>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
   >>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really
   >>>> slow. Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box
than
   >>>> the one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see 
what

   >>>> else is happening.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
   >>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
   >>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   >>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
   >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Rob,

Here's the Microsoft site where you can get the tool, and I recommend you
read the page carefully to evaluate your options carefully:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10


Good luck,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Byers via Talk
Sent: April 17, 2016 11:30 PM
To: Carol and Roger <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or
two


If possible, I also would like this tool.

Rob.


On 17-Apr-16 8:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
> OK, I give up.
>
> Can someone please send me the link to download the media tool to 
> upgrade to Windows 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 PC running Home Premium?  
> I would even be pleased to burn it to disk or a flash drive..  Thank you.
>
> Carol
>
>
> On 4/16/2016 4:48 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:
>> I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded 
>> the Media tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
>> "2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of 
>> righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at 
>> that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his 
>> appearing. "
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>>To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>    Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a 
>> question or two
>>
>>
>>I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It 
>> is now
>>3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time 
>> period.
>>
>>I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go. 
>> Will let
>>everybody know how things progress.
>>
>>On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
>>> That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a
>>> couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media 
>> tool in
>>> a new message or I can email you the link off list.
>>> Kenny Peyatt
>>>
>>> On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really 
>> don't
>>>> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even 
>> taking
>>>> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been
>>>> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the
>>>> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that
>>>> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be
>>>> looking for files in the process of being created or in this case,
>>>> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as 
>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be
>>>> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't 
>> understand
>>>> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is 
>> going at all.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
>>>>
>>>> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to 
>> find that
>>>> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
>>>>
>>>> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think
>>>> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
>>>>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
>>>>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 
>> folder
>>>>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
>>>>> Cheers Michael.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
>>>>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>>>> Subje

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Robert Byers via Talk


If possible, I also would like this tool.

Rob.


On 17-Apr-16 8:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

OK, I give up.

Can someone please send me the link to download the media tool to
upgrade to Windows 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 PC running Home Premium?  I
would even be pleased to burn it to disk or a flash drive..  Thank you.

Carol


On 4/16/2016 4:48 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded
the Media tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
"2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness,
which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and
not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. "
   - Original Message -
   From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
   Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
question or two


   I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It is
now
   3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time
period.

   I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go. Will
let
   everybody know how things progress.

   On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
   > That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a
   > couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media
tool in
   > a new message or I can email you the link off list.
   > Kenny Peyatt
   >
   > On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
   >>
   >> Michael,
   >>
   >> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
   >>
   >> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really
don't
   >> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even
taking
   >> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been
   >> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the
   >> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that
   >> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be
   >> looking for files in the process of being created or in this case,
   >> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as
well.
   >>
   >> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be
   >> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't
understand
   >> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going
at all.
   >>
   >> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
   >>
   >> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find
that
   >> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
   >>
   >> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think
   >> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
   >>
   >> Thanks,
   >>
   >> Larry
   >>
   >> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
   >>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
   >>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10
folder
   >>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
   >>> Cheers Michael.
   >>>
   >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
   >>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
   >>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>> Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
   >>> question or two
   >>>
   >>> Larry,
   >>>
   >>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download
and
   >>> start the download  from the beginning again.
   >>>
   >>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
   >>>
   >>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
   >>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really
   >>>> slow. Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box
than
   >>>> the one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what
   >>>> else is happening.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
   >>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
   >>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   >>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
   >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>>> Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
question
   >>>> or two
   >>>>
   >>>> Listers,
   >>>>
   >>>> Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous
discussions, but if

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
Carol, I just installed Windows 10 using the media creation tool. All 
went well until WE came up in demo mode. I will send you my copy, but 
could you refresh my memory about how to enter a serial number so that I 
might possibly remedy this issue. Why can't all go smoothly with program 
or OS installations?


On 4/16/2016 5:26 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:

OK, I give up.

Can someone please send me the link to download the media tool to
upgrade to Windows 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 PC running Home Premium?
I would even be pleased to burn it to disk or a flash drive..  Thank you.

Carol


On 4/16/2016 4:48 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded
the Media tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
"2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness,
which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and
not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. "
   - Original Message -
   From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
   Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
question or two


   I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It
is now
   3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time
period.

   I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go.
Will let
   everybody know how things progress.

   On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
   > That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a
   > couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media
tool in
   > a new message or I can email you the link off list.
   > Kenny Peyatt
   >
   > On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
   >>
   >> Michael,
   >>
   >> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
   >>
   >> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really
don't
   >> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even
taking
   >> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been
   >> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the
   >> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess
that
   >> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder
to be
   >> looking for files in the process of being created or in this case,
   >> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as
well.
   >>
   >> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this
may be
   >> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't
understand
   >> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is
going at all.
   >>
   >> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
   >>
   >> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to
find that
   >> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
   >>
   >> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I
think
   >> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
   >>
   >> Thanks,
   >>
   >> Larry
   >>
   >> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
   >>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
   >>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10
folder
   >>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
   >>> Cheers Michael.
   >>>
   >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
   >>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
   >>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>> Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
   >>> question or two
   >>>
   >>> Larry,
   >>>
   >>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that
download and
   >>> start the download  from the beginning again.
   >>>
   >>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
   >>>
   >>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
   >>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really
   >>>> slow. Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog
box than
   >>>> the one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see
what
   >>>> else is happening.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
   >>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
   >>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   >>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
   >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>>

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk

OK, I give up.

Can someone please send me the link to download the media tool to 
upgrade to Windows 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 PC running Home Premium?  I 
would even be pleased to burn it to disk or a flash drive..  Thank you.


Carol


On 4/16/2016 4:48 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded the Media 
tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
"2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,
which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, 
but unto all them also that love his appearing. "
   - Original Message -
   From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
   Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two


   I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It is now
   3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time period.

   I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go. Will let
   everybody know how things progress.

   On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
   > That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a
   > couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media tool in
   > a new message or I can email you the link off list.
   > Kenny Peyatt
   >
   > On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
   >>
   >> Michael,
   >>
   >> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
   >>
   >> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't
   >> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking
   >> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been
   >> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the
   >> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that
   >> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be
   >> looking for files in the process of being created or in this case,
   >> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.
   >>
   >> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be
   >> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand
   >> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.
   >>
   >> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
   >>
   >> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that
   >> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
   >>
   >> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think
   >> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
   >>
   >> Thanks,
   >>
   >> Larry
   >>
   >> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
   >>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
   >>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder
   >>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
   >>> Cheers Michael.
   >>>
   >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
   >>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
   >>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>> Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a
   >>> question or two
   >>>
   >>> Larry,
   >>>
   >>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
   >>> start the download  from the beginning again.
   >>>
   >>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
   >>>
   >>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
   >>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really
   >>>> slow. Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than
   >>>> the one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what
   >>>> else is happening.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
   >>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
   >>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
   >>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
   >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
   >>>> Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question
   >>>> or two
   >>>>
   >>>> Listers,
   >>>>
   >>>> Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
   >>>> so, it has been missed by me.
   >>>>
   >>>> I have bee

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Loy via Talk
I had this same problem with a laptop I was upgrading, I downloaded the Media 
tool and the installation went fairly quickly.
"2 Timothy 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, 
which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me 
only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. "
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Higgins via Talk 
  To: Kenny Peyatt jr. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 4:43 PM
  Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two


  I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It is now 
  3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time period.

  I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go. Will let 
  everybody know how things progress.

  On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
  > That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a 
  > couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media tool in 
  > a new message or I can email you the link off list.
  > Kenny Peyatt
  >
  > On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
  >>
  >> Michael,
  >>
  >> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
  >>
  >> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't 
  >> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking 
  >> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been 
  >> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the 
  >> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that 
  >> is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be 
  >> looking for files in the process of being created or in this case, 
  >> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.
  >>
  >> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be 
  >> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand 
  >> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.
  >>
  >> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
  >>
  >> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that 
  >> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
  >>
  >> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think 
  >> it is supposed to be something like 3gb?
  >>
  >> Thanks,
  >>
  >> Larry
  >>
  >> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
  >>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
  >>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder 
  >>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
  >>> Cheers Michael.
  >>>
  >>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
  >>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
  >>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >>> Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a 
  >>> question or two
  >>>
  >>> Larry,
  >>>
  >>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
  >>> start the download  from the beginning again.
  >>>
  >>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
  >>>
  >>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
  >>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really 
  >>>> slow. Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than 
  >>>> the one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what 
  >>>> else is happening.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
  >>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
  >>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
  >>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
  >>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >>>> Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question 
  >>>> or two
  >>>>
  >>>> Listers,
  >>>>
  >>>> Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
  >>>> so, it has been missed by me.
  >>>>
  >>>> I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
  >>>> 7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
  >>>> still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
  >>>> Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.
  >&

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk
I've been waiting for action ever since about 7:00am CDT, and It is now 
3:40pm and there has been no sign of movement throughout that time period.


I just downloaded  the media tool, and will soon give it a go. Will let 
everybody know how things progress.


On 4/16/2016 3:27 PM, Kenny Peyatt jr. wrote:
That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a 
couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media tool in 
a new message or I can email you the link off list.

Kenny Peyatt

On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:


Michael,

Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.

I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't 
appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking 
place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been 
downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the 
temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that 
is the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be 
looking for files in the process of being created or in this case, 
downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.


Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be 
normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand 
why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.


Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.

But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that 
tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.


Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think 
it is supposed to be something like 3gb?


Thanks,

Larry

On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:

Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder 
on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a 
question or two


Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
start the download  from the beginning again.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really 
slow. Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than 
the one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what 
else is happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question 
or two


Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting 
with no

apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it 
indeed

actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk
That is because the download is 3 gigabytes in size and can take a 
couple of hours to download. I can paste the link to the media tool in a 
new message or I can email you the link off list.

Kenny Peyatt

On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:


Michael,

Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.

I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't 
appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking 
place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been 
downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the 
temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that is 
the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be 
looking for files in the process of being created or in this case, 
downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.


Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be 
normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand 
why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.


Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.

But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that 
tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.


Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think it 
is supposed to be something like 3gb?


Thanks,

Larry

On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:

Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder 
on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a 
question or two


Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
start the download  from the beginning again.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the 
one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else 
is happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question 
or two


Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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RE: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Andre via Talk
How do you know which version to download? The n, kn, single language etc.?
I know I have a 64bit machine. I'm trying to download the tool though using
my vista machine just because it's easier for me at this moment.


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 9:54 AM
To: Larry Higgins; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or
two

Larry,


That's how I upgraded the computers around here.  I used the media 
creation tool which is available from Microsoft.  I deleted the file 
after upgrading all of the computers, but just search for it on the 
Microsoft.com site.  I didn't download the Windows 10 installation file 
on a flash drive, just put the creation tool file on a flash drive and 
let each computer download its own copy of the installation file, it 
didn't take that long, only about an hour or so to download the file.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.
>
> I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't 
> appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking 
> place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been 
> downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the 
> temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that is 
> the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be 
> looking for files in the process of being created or in this case, 
> downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.
>
> Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be 
> normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand 
> why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.
>
> Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.
>
> But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that 
> tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.
>
> Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think it 
> is supposed to be something like 3gb?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
> On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
>> Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
>> I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder 
>> on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.
>> Cheers Michael.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
>> To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a 
>> question or two
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
>> start the download  from the beginning again.
>>
>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
>>
>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
>>> Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the 
>>> one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else 
>>> is happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question 
>>> or two
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
>>> so, it has been missed by me.
>>>
>>> I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
>>> 7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
>>> still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
>>> Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.
>>>
>>> I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
>>> downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
>>> installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
>>> convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?
>>>
>>> I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
>>> altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
>>> bit disconcerting to say the least.
>>

Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk

Larry,


That's how I upgraded the computers around here.  I used the media 
creation tool which is available from Microsoft.  I deleted the file 
after upgrading all of the computers, but just search for it on the 
Microsoft.com site.  I didn't download the Windows 10 installation file 
on a flash drive, just put the creation tool file on a flash drive and 
let each computer download its own copy of the installation file, it 
didn't take that long, only about an hour or so to download the file.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/16/2016 7:58 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:


Michael,

Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.

I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't 
appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking 
place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been 
downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the 
temp folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that is 
the right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be 
looking for files in the process of being created or in this case, 
downloaded. Of course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.


Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be 
normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand 
why a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.


Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.

But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that 
tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.


Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think it 
is supposed to be something like 3gb?


Thanks,

Larry

On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:

Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder 
on a flash drive then install it from that much faster.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a 
question or two


Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
start the download  from the beginning again.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the 
one that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else 
is happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question 
or two


Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk


Michael,

Do you remember where you found the media tool, and if so, where.

I really don't mind waiting a bit for my download, but I really don't 
appreciate having no indication as to if the download is even taking 
place. I see  no indication that any vestige of the file has been 
downloaded anywhere, not even in the temp folder. I've checked the temp 
folder by using the run command, and typing temp. I guess that is the 
right way to go about it, as well as the proper folder to be looking for 
files in the process of being created or in this case, downloaded. Of 
course, I keep my eye on the download folder as well.


Who knows, my frustrations may be over nothing. I mean, this may be 
normal behavior for the upgrade process, but I just don't understand why 
a download process should go so slow, that is if it is going at all.


Anyway, I guess that is enough ranting for one message.

But again Michael, if you could tell me just where to go to find that 
tool, or how to look for it, that might be the answer.


Just hope I have a flash drive big enough for the download. I think it 
is supposed to be something like 3gb?


Thanks,

Larry

On 4/16/2016 4:58 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:

Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder on 
a flash drive then install it from that much faster.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question 
or two


Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
start the download  from the beginning again.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the one 
that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else is 
happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or 
two


Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-16 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk

Hi I gave up doing it that way my down load was so slow.
I down loaded a microsoft media tool that makes a windows 10 folder on a 
flash drive then install it from that much faster.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Tinney via Talk

Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or 
two


Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and
start the download  from the beginning again.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. Or 
the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the one that 
acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else is happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-15 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
Why not give Microsoft's disability answer desk a call? They should be well 
positioned to assist you. Here is the number (800) 936-5900.

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On April 15, 2016 8:29:31 AM Larry Higgins via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> The weird thing is that I saw nothing except start and loading download, 
> and that was in the form of a web type page. My sighted wife mentioned 
> that there was a menu sidebar, but while she was attempting to work with 
> it with the mouse, it disappeared. But WE simply never gave me any 
> indication that anything else was going on, as in no progress bars, no 
> percentages or anything.
>
> I decided to tryVirtual  View just before my wife got up, and saw all 
> kinds of options with that, but as I say, they didn't show up at the outset.
>
> According to my wife, it looked like to her that the thing had already 
> downloaded, and all I needed to do was find out where it went, but 
> beyond that, I really dunno.
>
> What I find kind of curious is how some people accidentally press the 
> button, and can't stop it, but I can't find any evidence that anything 
> is going on at all.
>
> I really need some help with this one I'm afraid.
>
> Would you be willing to let me give you a call, or may you give me one, 
> and maybe you could possibly walk me through this? I realize that it 
> shouldn't be at all necessary, but this is really a most unexpected turn 
> of events I'm afraid.
>
> On 4/15/2016 6:52 AM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:
>> Larry,
>>
>> If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and 
>> start the download  from the beginning again.
>>
>> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
>>
>> On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
>>> It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
>>> Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the one 
>>> that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else is 
>>> happening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>> -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
>>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or 
>>> two
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
>>> so, it has been missed by me.
>>>
>>> I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
>>> 7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
>>> still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
>>> Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.
>>>
>>> I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
>>> downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
>>> installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
>>> convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?
>>>
>>> I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
>>> altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
>>> bit disconcerting to say the least.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
>>> apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
>>> apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .
>>>
>>> Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
>>> actually presents itself for installation.
>>>
>>> Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-15 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Bob,

The weird thing is that I saw nothing except start and loading download, 
and that was in the form of a web type page. My sighted wife mentioned 
that there was a menu sidebar, but while she was attempting to work with 
it with the mouse, it disappeared. But WE simply never gave me any 
indication that anything else was going on, as in no progress bars, no 
percentages or anything.


I decided to tryVirtual  View just before my wife got up, and saw all 
kinds of options with that, but as I say, they didn't show up at the outset.


According to my wife, it looked like to her that the thing had already 
downloaded, and all I needed to do was find out where it went, but 
beyond that, I really dunno.


What I find kind of curious is how some people accidentally press the 
button, and can't stop it, but I can't find any evidence that anything 
is going on at all.


I really need some help with this one I'm afraid.

Would you be willing to let me give you a call, or may you give me one, 
and maybe you could possibly walk me through this? I realize that it 
shouldn't be at all necessary, but this is really a most unexpected turn 
of events I'm afraid.


On 4/15/2016 6:52 AM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and 
start the download  from the beginning again.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the one 
that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else is 
happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or 
two


Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-15 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk

Larry,

If the download is still showing 0 percent, close that download and 
start the download  from the beginning again.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 4/15/2016 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. 
Or the questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the one 
that acts like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else is 
happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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Re: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-15 Thread Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
It may have been downloaded already. Or your network is really slow. Or the 
questions are appearing in a different dialog box than the one that acts 
like a web browser. Alt-Tab around and see what else is happening.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 5:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if
so, it has been missed by me.

I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.

I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?

I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a
bit disconcerting to say the least.

Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .

Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed
actually presents itself for installation.

Larry
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In the process of upgrading to Windows 10, but a question or two

2016-04-15 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk

Listers,

Maybe this has been thoroughly covered in previous discussions, but if 
so, it has been missed by me.


I have been in the process of upgrading to Windows 10 since around 
7:30pm yesterday evening, and it is now a little after 4am, and I am 
still getting the words when tabbing through the page "Starting 
Download" and "loading," but no apparent movement in the process.


I elected to download rather than install, because I thought that 
downloading would give me a better chance of scheduling when the 
installation and upgrade would take place, hopefully at a time more 
convenient for me. Was this indeed the right choice?


I realize that this process can take a day or two to complete 
altogether, but not getting any feedback or indication of action is a 
bit disconcerting to say the least.


Thanks for any help with all of this in advance. I am just a bit 
apprehensive about this upgrade to begin with, but this waiting with no 
apparent time table is making me a bit crazy .


Thanks again, and am looking forward to working with W10 when it indeed 
actually presents itself for installation.


Larry
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