RE: Learning JAWS and NVDA
Also there is a JAWS search feature, insert space, and the letter J. Once you do that, a search box will come up. Then, you can type in a function, and JAWS will display the function in a virtual viewer, and it will also give you the links for you to activate that function, and it will say the hot key for that function. So, for example, if you wanted to look up the word title, you'd press insert space, J, then type title, and it would say "read title of application: link insert T." At that point, you can press either insert t or just press enter on the link. I hope this helps, Sky. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 8:11 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: Learning JAWS and NVDA Use the search box in settings center of jaws it's your friend. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 10:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Learnig JAWS and NVDA In learning JAWS as a WE user, my biggest problem is learning the JAWS menus and settings. I find it hard to find what I need. Some are not as descriptive as I would like. I do like the Microsoft mobile voice Mark, I find it responsive and easy to listen to. I find that NVDA and JAWS have some similarities. I find that NVDA does some things better than JAWS. I do want to get a working knowledge of both screen readers just in case WE stops working in future releases of Windows. But right now still like WE best. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Learning JAWS and NVDA
Use the search box in settings center of jaws it's your friend. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 10:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Learnig JAWS and NVDA In learning JAWS as a WE user, my biggest problem is learning the JAWS menus and settings. I find it hard to find what I need. Some are not as descriptive as I would like. I do like the Microsoft mobile voice Mark, I find it responsive and easy to listen to. I find that NVDA and JAWS have some similarities. I find that NVDA does some things better than JAWS. I do want to get a working knowledge of both screen readers just in case WE stops working in future releases of Windows. But right now still like WE best. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Learning Jaws
Hey, great! I forgot about Jaws key + d. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: James Bentley via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:53 AM To: Pastor Gil Pries; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws I’m not Joseph, but try this. Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary. Follow this with a control shift D, to get in to the global dictionary. then hit enter and follow the menus. Good luck, James B From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:23 PM To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more > current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select > that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic > Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about > various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, > when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter > on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put > you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes > to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to > install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will > seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, > if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the > packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You > can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different > topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen > to all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY > player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, > resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader > getting started guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having > to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. > What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about > training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or > Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice > document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer > have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again > to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the > following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if > audio is available in the DAISY book): > > Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P > Skip Ahe
RE: Learning Jaws
To get to the dictionary manager, press insert-f2 and arrow down to dictionary manager. When you open it, you can choose to modify pronunciation for the current application or the whole system. If you want to modify the whone system, press ctrl-shift-d and make sure it says “default.jdf”. Then, you have a tree view of languages. Arrow down through it and you’ll get to English. Use right arrow to open English and you’ll have choices for a couple synthesizers to modify pronunciations for that synthesizer. Then, all the other words show up. You can tab to buttons to change or remove, if I remember correctly. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:23 AM To: Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more > current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select > that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic > Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about > various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, > when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter > on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put > you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes > to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to > install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will > seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, > if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the > packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You > can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different > topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen > to all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY > player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, > resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader > getting started guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having > to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. > What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about > training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or > Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice > document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer > have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again > to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the > following keystrokes to control
Re: Learning Jaws
Hi James, Haven't downloaded Jaws yet but very interested in your statement below regarding > Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary. Does that mean that there would be a separate dictionary for each time, say, that Firefox was loaded? I find the extended dictionary in WE very useful because it loads when a particular Window is loaded. e.g. The browser is not important but when a particular site is loaded the dictionary for the voice and site is activated. Does the Jaws dictionary work something like this? Thanks Neville. On 17/05/2017 2:53 PM, James Bentley via Talk wrote: I’m not Joseph, but try this. Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary. Follow this with a control shift D, to get in to the global dictionary. then hit enter and follow the menus. Good luck, James B From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:23 PM To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Amanda Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip
Re: Learning Jaws
I’m not Joseph, but try this. Jaws key plus D, to get in to the currently focused application dictionary. Follow this with a control shift D, to get in to the global dictionary. then hit enter and follow the menus. Good luck, James B From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:23 PM To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more > current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select > that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic > Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about > various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, > when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter > on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put > you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes > to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to > install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will > seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, > if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the > packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You > can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different > topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen > to all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY > player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, > resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader > getting started guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having > to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. > What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about > training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or > Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice > document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer > have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again > to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the > following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if > audio is available in the DAISY book): > > Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P > Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD > Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA > NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications > to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key > will not open the print dialog box. In
Re: Learning Jaws
its in the utility pull down menu -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 PM To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Amanda Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s on
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Hi Joseph, Does Jaws have a pronounciation dictionary like Window-Eyes has and how do you get to it? Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Amanda Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tue
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I do need to apologize. You don’t actually have to download the DAISY books if you don’t want to. They are designed to install into the default JAWS folder, and they don’t give you a lot of indications as to where they’re going. I think these are the files JAWS downloads if you use FS reader to install the downloadable training materials. Instead, you might want a set of mp3 files. Here’s how to get those: On the JAWS training downloads page, if you navigate by headings, you will first hit a heading for DAISY books for JAWS. The next heading is for the mp3 versions. They are in plain .zip files. And, 2 files you might want to listen to from that section are the getting started files. They are not in the DAISY section. They cover the installation of JAWS and a few other things. They are intended for those who install from the DVD, but, the install from DVD is not too different from the downloadable install. Here are direct links to those files: http://www.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/archives/JAWS-MP3/GettingStartedWithJAWS-Side1-MP3.zip http://www.freedomscientific.com/doccenter/archives/JAWS-MP3/GettingStartedWithJAWS-Side2-MP3.zip Sorry I didn’t include those earlier. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:34 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Can you manually delete them when your done with them? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 PM To: Bryan Peterson; Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Oh, one more thing. These are full DAISY text and audio. The mp3’s are in each subfolder under C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 PM To: Carol and Roger; Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be > more current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. > Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for > the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that > talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. > For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in > JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it > is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to > download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” > dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training > materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web > page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press > Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with > the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training > materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though > which cover different topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail.com@lists.window-eyes.c > om] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good
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Can you manually delete them when your done with them? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 PM To: Bryan Peterson; Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Oh, one more thing. These are full DAISY text and audio. The mp3’s are in each subfolder under C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 PM To: Carol and Roger; Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be > more current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. > Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for > the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that > talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. > For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in > JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it > is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to > download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” > dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training > materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web > page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press > Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with > the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training > materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though > which cover different topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail.com@lists.window-eyes.c > om] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to > listen to all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY > player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, > resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader > getting started guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With > FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually > having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training > purposes. > What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about > training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word > or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the > practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! > You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader > program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the > practice fil
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Oh, one more thing. These are full DAISY text and audio. The mp3’s are in each subfolder under C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 PM To: Carol and Roger; Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more > current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select > that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic > Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about > various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, > when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter > on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put > you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes > to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to > install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will > seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, > if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the > packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You > can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different > topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen > to all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY > player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, > resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader > getting started guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having > to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. > What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about > training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or > Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice > document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer > have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again > to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the > following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if > audio is available in the DAISY book): > > Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P > Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD > Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA > NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications > to ac
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Hi: Here’s something I I just learned about these downloads on the training page. They are executable files that automatically install into your JAWS program directory. They do ask for administrator priveleges, then, they install and exit. So, if you do download them, just remember they go into C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training by default. Under that training directory, you can copy each folder onto a DAISY player and they will show up as books. If you have JAWS installed, FS reader will see them in the table of contents. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 PM To: Carol and Roger; Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. > > However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic > training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more > current, in some cases. > > Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. > Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select > that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic > Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about > various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, > when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter > on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put > you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes > to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to > install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will > seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, > if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. > > Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Amanda Lee > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that > there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the > packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You > can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different > topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen > to all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY > player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, > resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader > getting started guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having > to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. > What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about > training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or > Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice > document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer > have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again >
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Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:26 PM To: Joseph Norton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Amanda Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book
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Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Amanda Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a
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There are some programs under Utilities, though I wouldn’t call them bloatware. What 9 programs are you referring to? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bob Tinney via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:03 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws Hi, I just installed Jaws 18, and I ended up with 9 programs! Bloatware to be sure! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/16/2017 5:17 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > FS stands for Freedom Scientific. > > The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the > name of the DAISY reader since they were Freedom Scientific. This is not the > first time a program name indicated its origin. Another example is the word > processor that comes with JAWS. It’s called HJPad. HJ stood for > Henter-Joyce. When Freedom Scientific became the company selling JAWS, they > kept the name HJPad. > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Paulette Vickery via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:47 PM > To: 'Amanda Lee'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > What does, FS, stand for? And what, exactly, is the name of the company that > sells JAWS? > > Paulette > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:58 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's > no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged > version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download > the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to > all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, > rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started > guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to > be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What > this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and > open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet > Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and > still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press > ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice > files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes > to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the > DAISY book): > > Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P > Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD > Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA > NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to > access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not > open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, > this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print > a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu > commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file > menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. > > Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They > work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are > located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s > only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS > player, but, everything else is there. > > Hope this helps. > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ted Larson via Talk > S
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Hi, I just installed Jaws 18, and I ended up with 9 programs! Bloatware to be sure! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/16/2017 5:17 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: FS stands for Freedom Scientific. The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the name of the DAISY reader since they were Freedom Scientific. This is not the first time a program name indicated its origin. Another example is the word processor that comes with JAWS. It’s called HJPad. HJ stood for Henter-Joyce. When Freedom Scientific became the company selling JAWS, they kept the name HJPad. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:47 PM To: 'Amanda Lee'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws What does, FS, stand for? And what, exactly, is the name of the company that sells JAWS? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:58 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.win
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I’m not sure what’s going on there. If you press Enter on the link, it should say “downloading book”. Then, it will install the book. It may ask for administrator permission since it puts the book in the JAWS install directory under Training. You can download training materials using your Web browser. Go to http://www2.freedomscientific.com/downloads/training/training-downloads.asp Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Carol and Roger Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:06 PM To: Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Learning Jaws I tried to download the tutorials mentioned in the FS reader, but can not. I even tried to copy the link addresses and download them manually and received a "not valid web page" error. Since we do not have access to a DVD either, how are we supposed to get said information? Carol On 5/16/2017 3:50 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to > all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, > rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started > guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to > be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What > this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and > open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet > Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and > still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press > ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice > files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes > to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the > DAISY book): > > Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P > Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD > Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA > NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to > access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not > open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, > this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print > a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu > commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file > menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. > > Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They > work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are > located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s > only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS > player, but, everything else is there. > > Hope this helps. > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ted Larson via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM > To: t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: Learning Jaws > > When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth > between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and > play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a > talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book > machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download > it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http
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FS stands for Freedom Scientific. The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the name of the DAISY reader since they were Freedom Scientific. This is not the first time a program name indicated its origin. Another example is the word processor that comes with JAWS. It’s called HJPad. HJ stood for Henter-Joyce. When Freedom Scientific became the company selling JAWS, they kept the name HJPad. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Paulette Vickery via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:47 PM To: 'Amanda Lee'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws What does, FS, stand for? And what, exactly, is the name of the company that sells JAWS? Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:58 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List
RE: Learning Jaws
Intresting Vaughn because when I got my copy of Window-Eyes 7.2, they sent me a downloadable link and the CD for it. I really am greatful for what GWMicro has done for blind people and they should be commended for their efforts. As far as JAWS, when I got JAWS 14 in 2013, I got both a authorisation code and a CD but when I upgraded to JAWS 17 for my tech job in 2015, I just got the code sent to me electronicly by our local dealer, Canadialog. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:59 PM To: Amanda Lee; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Learning Jaws You are correct: no physical media. I didn't ask for it though, so maybe if I had ... But for me: installing software off disks is obsolete.It can take six weeks for stuff to come here from the States, and I remember being very annoyed with the old GW, Ai over this very point. But: as we are all having to learn - individual preferences should apply. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2017 7:58 a.m. To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards:
RE: Learning Jaws
You are correct: no physical media. I didn't ask for it though, so maybe if I had ... But for me: installing software off disks is obsolete.It can take six weeks for stuff to come here from the States, and I remember being very annoyed with the old GW, Ai over this very point. But: as we are all having to learn - individual preferences should apply. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2017 7:58 a.m. To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com
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FS stands for freedom scientific, and they were bought out by this new group called VF oh group Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com > On May 16, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > What does, FS, stand for? And what, exactly, is the name of the company that > sells JAWS? > > Paulette > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:58 PM > To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's > no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged > version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download > the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM > To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: RE: Learning Jaws > > Hi Ted: > > There’s good news on this one. > > JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be > downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The > training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 > hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to > all of it). > > You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. > > You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, > rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started > guide: > > Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials > With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip > backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to > be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What > this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and > open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet > Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and > still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press > ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice > files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes > to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the > DAISY book): > > Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P > Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD > Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA > NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to > access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not > open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, > this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print > a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu > commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file > menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. > > Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They > work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are > located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s > only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS > player, but, everything else is there. > > Hope this helps. > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ted Larson via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM > To: t...@window-eyes.com > Subject: Learning Jaws > > When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth > between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and > play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a > talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book > machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download > it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of t
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Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration. However, even if you download JAWS, you get the 11 hours of basic training. This is the same thing that ships on the DVD, and, may be more current, in some cases. Once you have JAWS up and running, Press Insert-J to open the JAWS window. Under the help menu, you’ll find an option that says “Training”. Select that option and FS reader opens to the table of contents for the Basic Training. This appears like a Web page. Each “book” that talks about various features of JAWS is a link you can press Enter on. For example, when you tab to the link that says, “What is new in JAWS,” and press Enter on it, FS reader will download the book if it is not present, then, put you into the book. (if the book has to download, you will need to say Yes to the “User Account Control” dialog, as the program needs permission to install the training materials in the proper location.) At first, it will seem like a Web page, which you can navigate in the usual way. However, if you press Control-P, it will begin speaking. Once you get the hang of it, it is a good way to get basic training. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Amanda Lee Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:57 PM To: 'Joseph Norton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson _
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I tried to download the tutorials mentioned in the FS reader, but can not. I even tried to copy the link addresses and download them manually and received a "not valid web page" error. Since we do not have access to a DVD either, how are we supposed to get said information? Carol On 5/16/2017 3:50 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Learning Jaws
Unless I mis-understood the sales representative, I was informed that there's no media sent that we have to download JAWS. But yes, with the packaged version of JAWS, it does come with nice training materials. You can download the FS Reader training materials though which cover different topics. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50 PM To: Ted Larson <ted.lar...@yahoo.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; t...@window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Learning Jaws Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadise777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-win
RE: Learning Jaws
Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material available (no, you won’t need to listen to all of it). You can either use FS Reader to play the material or your own DAISY player. You don’t have to switch between your program and FS Reader to pause, resume, rewind or fast-forward. Here’s a note from their FS Reader getting started guide: Using FSReader with Narrated Audio and Training Materials With FSReader you have the ability to play, pause, skip ahead, or skip backwards through narrated audio DAISY materials without actually having to be in the FSReader user interface. This is GREAT for training purposes. What this means is that you can be listening to a DAISY book about training and open a practice document, for example, in Microsoft® Word or Internet Explorer, or any other application. You can stay in the practice document and still control FSReader audio with this feature! You no longer have to press ALT+TAB to move between the FSReader program and back again to your practice files. Just stay within the practice file, and use the following keystrokes to control the FSReader audio in the background (if audio is available in the DAISY book): Play or Pause Audio (toggle), CTRL+P Skip Ahead 5 seconds, CTRL+PERIOD Skip Back 5 seconds, CTRL+COMMA NOTE: Since CTRL+P is also normally used as a hot key within applications to access the print dialog box, when FSReader is running, this hot key will not open the print dialog box. Instead, if FSReader is open in the background, this hot key controls the audio play and pause feature. If you need to print a document while FSReader is running, use the application's regular menu commands to print. Normally, that means just press ALT+F to open the file menu of that program and then press P to open the print dialog box. Also, you can copy the training materials to your own DAISY player. They work well on the NLS player. Once downloaded, the training materials are located in the folder C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training. There’s only one DAISY book that doesn’t have audio and that wouldn’t work on the NLS player, but, everything else is there. Hope this helps. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Ted Larson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:21 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Learning Jaws When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book machine? If so, where exactly can I find the manual, so that I can download it? Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
