Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

2017-01-24 Thread Robert Grimwood via Talk 
You may or may not be right, but your assumption is illogical: haven't 
you heard of call forwarding?



Cheerio,

Robert


On 1/23/2017 6:23 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there!

Just a note, when I call for support or sales questions I call and 
have always called the Fort Wayne office. So I suspect they still have 
some sort of offices in Fort Wayne.  Catch Ya Later


de .


On 20-Jan-17 22:19, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:

Curtis: I agree with much of what you have said below.


Add: my stupid confusion over who, where, what, Window-Eyes. The 
Readme talks about AI Squared.  It does not promote VFO Group. 
Neither does it include old fashioned street addresses. I am not 
clear as to where Window-Eyes is based - Fort Wayne, St Petersburg or 
at the Manchester Centre.  Doug's email to which Curtis refers has 
the St Petersburg Address of Freedom Scientific.  In the "about 
Window-Eyes" panel within v95.4, there is no credit information - 
that is - in the old days we knoew it was Doug, Aaron etc.



  The phone number is answered (automated as I called out of hours) 
as VFO Group.  Window-Eyes support is wesupp...@aisquared.com.  
Again: the phone does not give details of specific support addresses 
for VFO products.  Window-Eyes sales is sa...@aisquared.com.  
Window-Eyes still defaults to GW Micro folders.


  The old GW Micro web site stil functions, and profiles the update.


This update could have had more.  Through it, we've learnt that 
Indianna office has gone to the public at least, there is stil 
rationalisation of many things including support and sales, and long 
standing bug fixes as requested by users appear to not have been 
addressed.





Where I live, this disorganisation would be described as a "bugger's 
muddle" and for a multinational, multimillion dollar corporate like 
VFO Group, there is no excuse for the shambles which seems to be the 
case here.



Vaughan.






On 1/21/2017 10:06 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:

This window-eyes works much better for me than any of the other 9
versions, no doubt. I still maintain that no one from gw-micro or
ai-squared has touted the release, minor or otherwise, as they ALWAYS!
did in the past, and my note from Doug was in my inbox, not on this 
list

as it should have been for all to read about the necessity of updating
window-eyes, as opposed to the ability to update to a version which
contains X fixes for us to enjoy, including this new additional braille
display.
hmm!
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:45:11 -0500
Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


I agree!  Great job!

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:46 PM
To: Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

As previously stated, a couple of bugs *were* fixed in this release.

* Support has been added for the HumanWare BrailleNote Touch braille
display.

* An issue where multiple hooking errors would occur in the latest 
testing

builds of Windows 10 has been fixed.

* An updated digital certificate has been used to sign all 
executables.



That third one is pretty major, I would say.  Those who don't 
update before

January 26th will find their version of Window-eyes inoperable.
So I'm gonna have to very respectfully disagree. This is a *very* 
important

update.

   I mean...unless you like not having Window-eyes

   run at all?


  I meanunless you lik


On 1/19/2017 10:36 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
As somebody else pointed out already. This is a patch only. No 
bugs are

fixed and no new enhancements are included.

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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

2017-01-23 Thread Jim via Talk 

Hi there!

Just a note, when I call for support or sales questions I call and have 
always called the Fort Wayne office. So I suspect they still have some 
sort of offices in Fort Wayne.  Catch Ya Later


de .


On 20-Jan-17 22:19, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote:

Curtis: I agree with much of what you have said below.


Add: my stupid confusion over who, where, what, Window-Eyes.  The 
Readme talks about AI Squared.  It does not promote VFO Group. Neither 
does it include old fashioned street addresses.  I am not clear as to 
where Window-Eyes is based - Fort Wayne, St Petersburg or at the 
Manchester Centre.  Doug's email to which Curtis refers has the St 
Petersburg Address of Freedom Scientific.  In the "about Window-Eyes" 
panel within v95.4, there is no credit information - that is - in the 
old days we knoew it was Doug, Aaron etc.



  The phone number is answered (automated as I called out of hours) as 
VFO Group.  Window-Eyes support is wesupp...@aisquared.com.  Again: 
the phone does not give details of specific support addresses for VFO 
products.  Window-Eyes sales is sa...@aisquared.com.  Window-Eyes 
still defaults to GW Micro folders.


  The old GW Micro web site stil functions, and profiles the update.


This update could have had more.  Through it, we've learnt that 
Indianna office has gone to the public at least, there is stil 
rationalisation of many things including support and sales, and long 
standing bug fixes as requested by users appear to not have been 
addressed.





Where I live, this disorganisation would be described as a "bugger's 
muddle" and for a multinational, multimillion dollar corporate like 
VFO Group, there is no excuse for the shambles which seems to be the 
case here.



Vaughan.






On 1/21/2017 10:06 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:

This window-eyes works much better for me than any of the other 9
versions, no doubt. I still maintain that no one from gw-micro or
ai-squared has touted the release, minor or otherwise, as they ALWAYS!
did in the past, and my note from Doug was in my inbox, not on this list
as it should have been for all to read about the necessity of updating
window-eyes, as opposed to the ability to update to a version which
contains X fixes for us to enjoy, including this new additional braille
display.
hmm!
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:45:11 -0500
Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


I agree!  Great job!

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:46 PM
To: Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

As previously stated, a couple of bugs *were* fixed in this release.

* Support has been added for the HumanWare BrailleNote Touch braille
display.

* An issue where multiple hooking errors would occur in the latest 
testing

builds of Windows 10 has been fixed.

* An updated digital certificate has been used to sign all executables.


That third one is pretty major, I would say.  Those who don't update 
before

January 26th will find their version of Window-eyes inoperable.
So I'm gonna have to very respectfully disagree. This is a *very* 
important

update.

   I mean...unless you like not having Window-eyes

   run at all?


  I meanunless you lik


On 1/19/2017 10:36 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
As somebody else pointed out already. This is a patch only. No bugs 
are

fixed and no new enhancements are included.

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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

2017-01-20 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk 

Curtis: I agree with much of what you have said below.


Add: my stupid confusion over who, where, what, Window-Eyes.  The Readme 
talks about AI Squared.  It does not promote VFO Group. Neither does it 
include old fashioned street addresses.  I am not clear as to where 
Window-Eyes is based - Fort Wayne, St Petersburg or at the Manchester 
Centre.  Doug's email to which Curtis refers has the St Petersburg 
Address of Freedom Scientific.  In the "about Window-Eyes" panel within 
v95.4, there is no credit information - that is - in the old days we 
knoew it was Doug, Aaron etc.



  The phone number is answered (automated as I called out of hours) as 
VFO Group.  Window-Eyes support is wesupp...@aisquared.com.  Again: the 
phone does not give details of specific support addresses for VFO 
products.  Window-Eyes sales is sa...@aisquared.com.  Window-Eyes still 
defaults to GW Micro folders.


  The old GW Micro web site stil functions, and profiles the update.


This update could have had more.  Through it, we've learnt that Indianna 
office has gone to the public at least, there is stil rationalisation of 
many things including support and sales, and long standing bug fixes as 
requested by users appear to not have been addressed.





Where I live, this disorganisation would be described as a "bugger's 
muddle" and for a multinational, multimillion dollar corporate like VFO 
Group, there is no excuse for the shambles which seems to be the case here.



Vaughan.






On 1/21/2017 10:06 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote:

This window-eyes works much better for me than any of the other 9
versions, no doubt. I still maintain that no one from gw-micro or
ai-squared has touted the release, minor or otherwise, as they ALWAYS!
did in the past, and my note from Doug was in my inbox, not on this list
as it should have been for all to read about the necessity of updating
window-eyes, as opposed to the ability to update to a version which
contains X fixes for us to enjoy, including this new additional braille
display.
hmm!
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:45:11 -0500
Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


I agree!  Great job!

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:46 PM
To: Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

As previously stated, a couple of bugs *were* fixed in this release.

* Support has been added for the HumanWare BrailleNote Touch braille
display.

* An issue where multiple hooking errors would occur in the latest testing
builds of Windows 10 has been fixed.

* An updated digital certificate has been used to sign all executables.


That third one is pretty major, I would say.  Those who don't update before
January 26th will find their version of Window-eyes inoperable.
So I'm gonna have to very respectfully disagree. This is a *very* important
update.

   I mean...unless you like not having Window-eyes

   run at all?


  I meanunless you lik


On 1/19/2017 10:36 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:

As somebody else pointed out already.  This is a patch only. No bugs are

fixed and no new enhancements are included.

Peter Duran
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

2017-01-20 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk 
This window-eyes works much better for me than any of the other 9
versions, no doubt. I still maintain that no one from gw-micro or
ai-squared has touted the release, minor or otherwise, as they ALWAYS!
did in the past, and my note from Doug was in my inbox, not on this list
as it should have been for all to read about the necessity of updating
window-eyes, as opposed to the ability to update to a version which
contains X fixes for us to enjoy, including this new additional braille
display.
hmm!
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 14:45:11 -0500
Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I agree!  Great job!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:46 PM
> To: Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update
> 
> As previously stated, a couple of bugs *were* fixed in this release.
> 
> * Support has been added for the HumanWare BrailleNote Touch braille
> display.
> 
> * An issue where multiple hooking errors would occur in the latest testing
> builds of Windows 10 has been fixed.
> 
> * An updated digital certificate has been used to sign all executables.
> 
> 
> That third one is pretty major, I would say.  Those who don't update before
> January 26th will find their version of Window-eyes inoperable.  
> So I'm gonna have to very respectfully disagree. This is a *very* important
> update.
> 
>   I mean...unless you like not having Window-eyes
> 
>   run at all?
> 
> 
>  I meanunless you lik
> 
> 
> On 1/19/2017 10:36 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
> > As somebody else pointed out already.  This is a patch only. No bugs are
> fixed and no new enhancements are included.
> >
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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

2017-01-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
I agree!  Great job!

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:46 PM
To: Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 not an update

As previously stated, a couple of bugs *were* fixed in this release.

* Support has been added for the HumanWare BrailleNote Touch braille
display.

* An issue where multiple hooking errors would occur in the latest testing
builds of Windows 10 has been fixed.

* An updated digital certificate has been used to sign all executables.


That third one is pretty major, I would say.  Those who don't update before
January 26th will find their version of Window-eyes inoperable.  
So I'm gonna have to very respectfully disagree. This is a *very* important
update.

  I mean...unless you like not having Window-eyes

  run at all?


 I meanunless you lik


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> As somebody else pointed out already.  This is a patch only. No bugs are
fixed and no new enhancements are included.
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 - THANK YOU!

2017-01-19 Thread Dave via Talk 
At least our complaints actually have something to do with Window Eyes,
unlike your complaint.  

Grumpy Dave


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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 - THANK YOU!

2017-01-19 Thread Tony C via Talk 

Ditto!!

-Original Message- 
From: Grant Metcalf via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 - THANK YOU!

If you think about it, there are thousands of people who are using
Window-Eyes and are not complaining, just a few, and unfortunately, they are
never satisfied. I could wish they were fully sighted, then, they could find
somewhere else to gripe and something else to gripe about. And that's my
gripe!


Ignorance is bliss! SMILE!

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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4 - THANK YOU!

2017-01-19 Thread Jim via Talk 

Thanks You Grant! You echo my feelings almost exactly.

.


On 19-Jan-17 11:36, Grant Metcalf via Talk wrote:
If you think about it, there are thousands of people who are using 
Window-Eyes and are not complaining, just a few, and unfortunately, 
they are never satisfied. I could wish they were fully sighted, then, 
they could find somewhere else to gripe and something else to gripe 
about. And that's my gripe!



Ignorance is bliss! SMILE!

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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk 
Hi,

I didn't get this issue at all on Windows 10.

All the best

Steve

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Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

Peter Duran
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Loy via Talk 
If you own WE 8X or greater you can use it to install WE then run the upgrade, 
or contact WE support E-Mail: wesupp...@aisquared.com
Phone: 802-362-3612, and they can give you a link to download a full copy or 
you can order a CD for $20.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Russ Kiehne via Talk 
  To: Peter Duran ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4


  I didn't have that problem.

  My only question is, do you need a 9.5.4 cd if you want to install it on a 
  new computer or reinstall it?

  -Original Message- 
  From: Peter Duran via Talk
  Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:22 AM
  To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

  Hello

  I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download 
  completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need 
  to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it 
  did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk 

I didn't have that problem.

My only question is, do you need a 9.5.4 cd if you want to install it on a 
new computer or reinstall it?


-Original Message- 
From: Peter Duran via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 10:22 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download 
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need 
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it 
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.


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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
I didn't realize that the original poster's problem was with UAC.  Usually 
that comes on in the beginning.  He seemed to say he installed it and 
everything except that in the end, there was something that a sighted person 
had to click.  That didn't sound like UAC.  I did get prompted by UAC, and I 
told it yes, and it continued, and everything went fine.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:01 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hmm! I have the account control on, but was not prompted.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:34 PM
To: Jim Ruby ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

I think this probably has to do with the way Windows account control is
set up.  I have mine completely turned off and was not prompted to have
the program installed.  It just did it.


On 1/18/2017 1:37 PM, Jim Ruby via Talk wrote:
I did not have this problem, everything read just fine here on both 
machines

running windows 10.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:23 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the 
download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You 
need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as 
it

did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

Peter Duran
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk 

I didn't have a problem.  It downloaded and installed normally.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Iaen Cordell via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:24 PM
To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Not at all, I just waited and then alt/tab several times and the box did
show up.
Cheers
IC

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On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 5:23 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

Peter Duran
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Tony C via Talk 

Whym, the truth is the truth. Whine whine, cry cry.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:48 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Oh stop it.



-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:13 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

   As much bitching as there has been about the Window eyes stuff. If I was
in charge I would scrap it just because everyone has bitched so much and
seem to expect it. Scrap it and take a long vacation on a tropical island.
lol

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:00 AM
To: 'Don H' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Are people ever?  Is that all you can do is bitch?  They added support for a
braille display.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to program.  I suspect
the main purpose was to make people could continue using the product some
people are never happy!  Thank you for the update it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what
changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes.
Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and
bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing,
but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE.

On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:

I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.



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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Robert Ringwald via Talk 

Oh stop it.



-Original Message- 
From: Tony C via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:13 PM
To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

   As much bitching as there has been about the Window eyes stuff. If I was
in charge I would scrap it just because everyone has bitched so much and
seem to expect it. Scrap it and take a long vacation on a tropical island.
lol

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:00 AM
To: 'Don H' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Are people ever?  Is that all you can do is bitch?  They added support for a
braille display.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to program.  I suspect
the main purpose was to make people could continue using the product some
people are never happy!  Thank you for the update it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what
changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes.
Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and
bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing,
but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE.

On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:

I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.



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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-19 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk 
I find this new version of window-eyes less likely to crash and is a
whole lot faster with FireFox than other versions!

-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:00:45 -0500
Dennis Long via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Are people ever?  Is that all you can do is bitch?  They added support for a
> braille display.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to program.  I suspect
> the main purpose was to make people could continue using the product some
> people are never happy!  Thank you for the update it's appreciated.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
> To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4
> 
> It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what
> changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes. 
> Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and
> bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing,
> but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE.
> 
> On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:
> > I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alison
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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk 
We all need to reunite as a community.  The blind need to focus on
reuniting, not being so fragmented.  The blind community needs to be strong
at advocating for ourselves on what we want and would like in the future and
so on and so forth.  The best way to deal with a situation is to sit down
and educate, and do some lobbying/education.  I don't think enough of us are
doing that and a lot of us are either staying quiet, or just complaining.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:14 PM
To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

As much bitching as there has been about the Window eyes stuff. If I was

in charge I would scrap it just because everyone has bitched so much and 
seem to expect it. Scrap it and take a long vacation on a tropical island. 
lol

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:00 AM
To: 'Don H' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Are people ever?  Is that all you can do is bitch?  They added support for a
braille display.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to program.  I suspect
the main purpose was to make people could continue using the product some
people are never happy!  Thank you for the update it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what
changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes.
Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and
bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing,
but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE.

On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:
> I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.
>
>
>
> Alison
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Tony C via Talk 
   As much bitching as there has been about the Window eyes stuff. If I was 
in charge I would scrap it just because everyone has bitched so much and 
seem to expect it. Scrap it and take a long vacation on a tropical island. 
lol


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:00 AM
To: 'Don H' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Are people ever?  Is that all you can do is bitch?  They added support for a
braille display.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to program.  I suspect
the main purpose was to make people could continue using the product some
people are never happy!  Thank you for the update it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what
changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes.
Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and
bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing,
but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE.

On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:

I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.



Alison





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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
Are people ever?  Is that all you can do is bitch?  They added support for a
braille display.  Do you have any idea how hard it is to program.  I suspect
the main purpose was to make people could continue using the product some
people are never happy!  Thank you for the update it's appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what
changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes. 
Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and
bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing,
but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE.

On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:
> I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.
>
>
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> Alison
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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk 
At least they added support for the braillenote touchm so I think that they
made some improvements. Just because this is not a feature packed update,
doesant mean that window-eyes is not being improved. 

Kenny Peyatt jr. 
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Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:08 PM
To: CJ  MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what 
changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes. 
Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements 
and bug fixes.  So this update was to keep it working, which is a good 
thing, but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving 
on WE.

On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ  MAY via Talk wrote:
> I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.
>
>
>
> Alison
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread michaeel's mail via Talk 

Well WE spoke the hole process to me i needid no sighted  help
cheers Michael..

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Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download 
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need 
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it 
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.


Peter Duran
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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread CJ MAY via Talk 
I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.

 

Alison

 

 

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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Jim via Talk 
The same here, everything ran smoothe as ice.  I did have to grant 
access through my firewall but that was the only thing that I actually 
had to do.So far so good!  Suspect this might have something to do with 
how individual machines are set up.  Just my guess.  Good Luck & Have A 
Great Day! de


.


On 18-Jan-17 14:34, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I think this probably has to do with the way Windows account control 
is set up.  I have mine completely turned off and was not prompted to 
have the program installed.  It just did it.



On 1/18/2017 1:37 PM, Jim Ruby via Talk wrote:
I did not have this problem, everything read just fine here on both 
machines

running windows 10.


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Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the 
download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  
You need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the 
option, as it

did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

Peter Duran
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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Dennis Long via Talk 
I didn't experience this as well.

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Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

Peter Duran
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Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Tony C via Talk 

Hmm! I have the account control on, but was not prompted.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:34 PM
To: Jim Ruby ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

I think this probably has to do with the way Windows account control is
set up.  I have mine completely turned off and was not prompted to have
the program installed.  It just did it.


On 1/18/2017 1:37 PM, Jim Ruby via Talk wrote:
I did not have this problem, everything read just fine here on both 
machines

running windows 10.


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Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the 
download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You 
need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as 
it

did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

Peter Duran
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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Jim Ruby via Talk 
I did not have this problem, everything read just fine here on both machines
running windows 10.


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Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

2017-01-18 Thread Iaen Cordell via Talk 
Not at all, I just waited and then alt/tab several times and the box did
show up.
Cheers
IC

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Subject: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

Hello

I just installed this update.  There is a minor problem.  After the download
completes, you are asked to allow Windows to install this program.  You need
to activate the Yes button, but Window-Eyes does not speak the option, as it
did in the past; sighted help is necessary.

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