Hi all,
Last question of the night from me.
I've been creating relations for railway stations (see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_train_stations) and just
noticed, when doing Marylebone (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/238413), that there's already a
NaPTAN provides relations for stations (or at least it should, I've
yet to check), in most cases, this will contain the station node, and
entrance nodes, and child relations eg, the stops outside of it.
I've yet to import them, but I do have all the backreferences stored to do so.
On 10/09/2009,
I downloaded the philippine snapshot and it seems the whole
archipelago is not covered.
The cloudmade extract uses this boundingbox
http://downloads.cloudmade.com/asia/philippines/philippines.poly
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:36 PM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
Big thanks to
Hallo,
Ik ben nog nieuw in dit project, dus ... hallo iedereen.
Een vraagje:
Ik heb deze week eens een babbeltje gehad met iemand van de gemeente bij
ons om een lijst te krijgen van alle straten in de gemeente inclusief
GPS-gegevens.
Hij zie dat hij die eventueel wel kon verkrijgen, op
Hi all,
2009/9/1 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com:
I think also that an asbl / vzw is a good thing for OSM in belgium.
Some thoughts:
* Please define the goals of the organisation _very_ well.
* A dry run without the formal structure, but pretending to have them
may prove _very_ interesting when it
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Mark Van den Borre wrote:
2009/9/1 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com:
I think also that an asbl / vzw is a good thing for OSM in belgium.
Some thoughts:
* Please define the goals of the organisation _very_ well.
The goals are currently somehow stable. It is not wise to make all
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@... writes:
OK, I think we have a potential case of GMaps + OSM data here...
...
By the sound of that, it seems that they're joining up the GMaps data and the
OSM data, and filtering out the street names in common.
Do you think there might be something wrong in
El Miércoles, 9 de Septiembre de 2009, Jukka Rahkonen escribió:
By the sound of that, it seems that they're joining up the GMaps data and
the OSM data, and filtering out the street names in common.
Do you think there might be something wrong in doing so?
I do. I think that their DB is a
Look also at the positive site:
This mechanism might be in place to prevent a sudden surge of fantasy
streets (or even whole new cities) popping up all over OSM,
vandalizing our data.
Of course, this doesn't make all things all right.
Their final OSM derivate is a subset of OSM (intersection of
El Miércoles, 9 de Septiembre de 2009, Stefan Baebler escribió:
Look also at the positive site:
This mechanism might be in place to prevent a sudden surge of fantasy
streets (or even whole new cities) popping up all over OSM,
vandalizing our data.
... or to detect easter eggs in big G's
2009/9/9 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
... or to detect easter eggs in big G's data. And I want that list of
(possible) easter eggs.
Iván, there is no reason trying to catch all the easter eggs.
When you find one, and report it, they move it somewhere else.
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El Miércoles, 9 de Septiembre de 2009, Stefan Baebler escribió:
[...]
Yes, and then we will unleash our team of high profile lawyers [...]
You mean IF we can snatch them out of the pub. ;-)
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Un ordenador no es un
2009/9/9 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
OK, so it seems that they're using GMaps as the background, and OSM as the
actual street data provider. See:
http://chippy2005.googlepages.com/MonopolyCityStreets_1252505633167.png
I think that OSM is entitled to ask if the Creative Commons license has been
complied with.
The Monopoly City Streets game is produced by Tribal DDB which is part of
Hasbro Inc., one of the biggest toy manufacturers in the world. They own, among
others, Monopoly, Trivial Pursuit, Scrabble and
On 9/9/09, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@... writes:
By the sound of that, it seems that they're joining up the GMaps data and
the OSM data, and filtering out the street names in common.
I think that their DB is a derivative work of the OSM data and that
share-alike
El Miércoles, 9 de Septiembre de 2009, Ed Avis escribió:
Even if that is true, they are not distributing their database to anyone
else.
They are ... to the players, in the form of lists of streets owned by one
player and whatnot.
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Peter Millarpeter.mil...@yahoo.com wrote:
I think that OSM is entitled to ask if the Creative Commons license has been
complied with.
The Monopoly City Streets game is produced by Tribal DDB which is part of
Hasbro Inc., one of the biggest toy manufacturers
2009/9/9 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
If the way lines up with the GPS trace, the GPS trace was used as the source
of data. If it doesn't, it wasn't (or it has been changed).
Am I missing some reason that's not correct?
You're assuming only one type of source was used to generate a way,
when
On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
David Earl wrote:
Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in
Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets
anyway?
Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people
mistakenly selecting it
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Earl wrote:
On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
David Earl wrote:
Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in
Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets
anyway?
Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any
We are diverting away from the original question.
Is it OK to use Google Streetview data to check/confirm the data we have?
Clearly its not OK to use the images to gather information for use in
OSM due to derived data part of the copyright.
Jack Stringer
David Earl wrote:
I had to revert changes for someone this week who specifically said to
me that's what had happened - he didn't realize he was editing live
data. People don't read stuff in front of them.
Well, you can't completely idiot-proof these things, and it's a great
shame to
On Wednesday 09 Sep 2009 3:21:02 pm Jack Stringer wrote:
We are diverting away from the original question.
Is it OK to use Google Streetview data to check/confirm the data we have?
no - for all the reasons already mentioned. It is not ok to use it for
anything whatsoever to do with OSM.
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Anthony wrote:
Eh, I'd take on Google pro se (or with the help of free EFF lawyers or
the like) over the issue of the ToS, and based on US law I'm pretty sure
I'd win. However, I'm aware that other users of OSM don't have the
benefit US-jurisdictional copyright law with respect to factual
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Jonathan
Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
There's a difference between using one fact from a newspaper article,
and systematically extracting data from a database to reuse in another
database.
Is there a difference between
1) using one fact from a
On 09/09/09 11:46, Roy Wallace wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Jonathan
Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
There's a difference between using one fact from a newspaper article,
and systematically extracting data from a database to reuse in another
database.
Is there a
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Kenneth Gonsalveslaw...@au-kbc.org wrote:
no - for all the reasons already mentioned. It is not ok to use it for
anything whatsoever to do with OSM.
First, all I have seen here are just opinions. Second, copyright laws
and definition of derivative work depends
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote:
Because (in the EU) Database Right kicks in and prohibits substantial
extraction.
Tom
If someone starts to copy the photos themselves, yes you are right.
But here, we speak about reading a street sign on a picture, not
copying
On 09/09/09 11:55, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 09/09/09 11:46, Roy Wallace wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Jonathan
Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
There's a difference between using one fact from a newspaper article,
and systematically extracting data from a database to reuse
On 09/09/09 12:07, Pieren wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote:
Because (in the EU) Database Right kicks in and prohibits substantial
extraction.
If someone starts to copy the photos themselves, yes you are right.
But here, we speak about reading a
copied from rss feed for diary entries
for attention of list
Looks like there's been a lot of wikipedia:fr based edits from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/paddiloo/edits -- is this now ok?
[Don't have access to mailing list atm]
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Pieren wrote:
First, all I have seen here are just opinions.
[...]
There are some questions here : is the content of a photo
copyrighted like the photo itself ?
May I humbly refer people to
http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100
which deals principally with aerial photography, not
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Lized...@billiau.net wrote:
copied from rss feed for diary entries
for attention of list
Looks like there's been a lot of wikipedia:fr based edits from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/paddiloo/edits -- is this now ok?
[Don't have access to mailing list atm]
2009/9/9 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Lized...@billiau.net wrote:
copied from rss feed for diary entries
for attention of list
Looks like there's been a lot of wikipedia:fr based edits from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/paddiloo/edits -- is this now ok?
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote:
On 09/09/09 11:55, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 09/09/09 11:46, Roy Wallace wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Jonathan
Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
There's a difference between using one fact from a newspaper
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Thomas Woodgrand.edgemas...@gmail.com wrote:
In that case, the coordinates should surely not be in wikipedia either?
Is commercial reuse allowed on wikipedia licence? I don't know and
I'm not a wikipedia contributor. I just asked them where they found
the
2009/9/9 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
The example of a newspaper is a bad example. You cannot copy a text
writen by somebody else. This is because it is his own creation. If
you write yourself an article, It is allowed to mention some parts of
an other article, small extracts are allowed as
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:18:33PM +0100, Brian Quinion wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Valent
Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I'm using address interpolation for the first time so I would like to
ask if somebody can check if I did it ok or if there are some errors:
2009/9/9 Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk
I don't disagree. However, the convention has been established, and it's
not entirely a bad thing. It means I can contribute to the map (in
English) and I can read the map at the OSM site (because Mapnik renders
the name=* tag, not a
Obligatory IANAL disclaimer.
Let's be honest, we would like to avoid it as much as possible not
because copyright law is in fact in our side (*checking* facts with
other, commercial sources IS NOT copying and IS NOT covered by
copyright law, period). We want to avoid just because we *think*
I'd suggest moving all the following tags
addr:city = Osijek
addr:country = 385
addr:postcode = 31000
addr:street = Starigradska
to the way (rather than the individual nodes). And I'd suggest that
addr:country = 385 is unlikely to be understood.
No! Please don't do that. That makes
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Errington
a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:
Actually, the convention is that objects should be tagged with four names.
The 'name=*' tag is Hangul followed by English in brackets. This is the
most important, as it is the 'fallback' tag for rendering a
2009/9/9 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com
How do we deal with all other languages than English that does not use
Hangul characters? Do we need to tag all these place names with all language
codes?
name=* should contain the native language value
name:en=* should contain the English translation
2009/9/9 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
If someone starts to copy the photos themselves, yes you are right.
But here, we speak about reading a street sign on a picture, not
copying the picture.
Legal arguments aside, there is very few street signs I've seen on
google street view that I can read
No! Please don't do that. That makes it harder to use. Then
there are two
possible ways, where data can be. Please use only
addr:interpolation on
the way and everything else on the nodes.
Which seems to be the opposite of what the section on the Karlsruhe
interpolation wiki section says:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/489432179
I'd suggest moving all the following tags
addr:city = Osijek
addr:country = 385
addr:postcode = 31000
addr:street = Starigradska
No! Please don't do that. That makes it harder to use. Then there are two
possible ways, where data can be.
2009/9/9 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com:
Back in March, Ed Parsons pointed out [0] that since StreetView images are
Google-owned, if someone asked nicely-enough we could get them to give us a
license to explicitly map based on the streetview images (similar to the
explicit license we have with
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/graveyard
This page is old/unfinished and very ambiguous. Can somebody make
clear how to tag cemeteries, and how to name them correctly?
If I have polygon do I add name= to polygon or do I add a point in the
middle of cemetery with
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Valent
Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/graveyard
This page is old/unfinished and very ambiguous. Can somebody make
clear how to tag cemeteries, and how to name them correctly?
If I have polygon do
OK, so it seems that they're using GMaps as the background, and OSM as the
actual street data provider. See:
http://chippy2005.googlepages.com/MonopolyCityStreets_1252505633167.png
http://chippy2005.googlepages.com/MapCompareGeofabrikTools_12525056572.png
Still deserves some more
Noticed in the archives[1] that my mail was chopped off, so resending
with some different characters around Ed's email:
[1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/041753.html
2009/9/9 Dan Karran d...@karran.net:
2009/9/9 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com:
Back in March, Ed
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Lized...@billiau.net wrote:
copied from rss feed for diary entries
for attention of list
Looks like there's been a lot of wikipedia:fr based edits from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/paddiloo/edits -- is this now ok?
[Don't have access to mailing list atm]
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 02:51:36PM +0100, Ed Loach wrote:
No! Please don't do that. That makes it harder to use. Then
there are two
possible ways, where data can be. Please use only
addr:interpolation on
the way and everything else on the nodes.
Which seems to be the opposite of what
Pieren pieren3 at gmail.com writes:
Looks like there's been a lot of wikipedia:fr based edits from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/paddiloo/edits -- is this now ok?
After analysis, it seems that a bot is making a massive import of
copyrighted data from the IGN in France. I sent a mail to
data
Ian Dees ian.dees at gmail.com writes:
Check this out: http://blog.monopolycitystreets.com/2009/09/almost-there.html
Hmph, all the news reporting has been 'Google Maps' this and 'Google' that...
I hadn't seen any article mentioning OSM.
Then again, from this screenshot:
Perhaps the OSM database should be moved out of the EU to a location
that doesn't suffer from a Database Rights law.Extracting from
no-EU data source by people not in the EU would then be okay for sure.
Extending the Database Rights law to extracting turn restrictions
from Streetview is a
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@... writes:
By the sound of that, it seems that they're joining up the GMaps data and
the OSM data, and filtering out the street names in common.
I think that their DB is a derivative work of the OSM data and that
share-alike should apply.
Even if that is true, they
El Miércoles, 9 de Septiembre de 2009, Ed Avis escribió:
Perhaps they are using OSM for data, dividing up the world into streets
that players can buy and sell, but rendering the Google Maps tiles
underneath. That seems a bit lame.
They are. More info at legal@ and IRC.
--
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Perhaps they are using OSM for data, dividing up the world into streets
that
players can buy and sell, but rendering the Google Maps tiles underneath.
That seems a bit lame.
I'm playing it right now, and this appears to be
2009/9/9 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Perhaps they are using OSM for data, dividing up the world into streets
that
players can buy and sell, but rendering the Google Maps tiles underneath.
That seems a bit lame.
I'm playing
On 9 Sep 2009, at 17:00, Ian Dees wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Does the osmify bookmarklet
http://blog.johnmckerrell.com/2007/12/31/new-version-of-osmify-bookmarklet/
work in the Monopoly game?
No. It appears that they might be using a special
David Muir Sharnoff wrote:
Perhaps the OSM database should be moved out of the EU to a location
that doesn't suffer from a Database Rights law.Extracting from
no-EU data source by people not in the EU would then be okay for sure.
Great! Let us know when you've secured the funding for this
On 9 Sep 2009, at 17:16, Ian Dees wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk
wrote:
The game is built using Flash so the osmify bookmarklet won't work
as it needs the javascript api instead.
The game is built entirely with JavaScript and HTML.
that you can ignore tags on the way just doesn't work. Your advise
Do you have numbers for that?
There are, as of last Wednesday:
46899 uses with addr:street in this way I described
209340 uses with addr:street used to link a building outline to a street
2947067 uses with addr:street used to
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jonathan
Bennettopenstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
If the photos are geocoded -- which SV's are -- then you are deriving
data from the whole product, both picture and location. This constitutes
a database. While the law on this may be a grey area, it's not
Hi,
Brian Quinion wrote:
No, duplication is almost always bad (caching may be an exception).
Inconsistent data is the enemy of all good database management
*Inconsistent* data is surely not desirable, but *redundant* information
may well have its place because it makes it easier to spot
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Earl wrote:
On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
David Earl wrote:
Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in
Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets
anyway?
Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any
This proposal for tagging land covered with greenhouses is now open for
voting. Please visit the proposal and cast your vote at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/greenhouse_horticulture
Polderrunner
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Brian
Quinionopenstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Valent
Turkovicvalent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, I'm using address interpolation for the first time so I would like to
ask if somebody can check if I did it ok or if
On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
confusing for this simple thing to map.
I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
ground around a church, while a cemetery is a separate pice of land set
On 09/09/2009 12:07, Pieren wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Tom Hughest...@compton.nu wrote:
Because (in the EU) Database Right kicks in and prohibits substantial
extraction.
Tom
If someone starts to copy the photos themselves, yes you are right.
But here, we speak about reading a
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 10:06:07PM +0100, David Earl wrote:
we are potentially infringing the copyright of the map used to
geolocate it. This applies even to CCbySA photos gelocated on flickr
etc, unless they were located using OSM in the first place, or by
GPS.
But there is no way to know
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote:
That is, unless Wikipedia and the OSM project disagree about the legal status
of the information and whether it can be distributed under CC-BY-SA, in which
case you need to ask the legal-talk mailing list...
Wikipedia's policy on
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:39 PM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Legal arguments aside, there is very few street signs I've seen on
google street view that I can read anyway, most of them seem to be
blurred out, either intentionally, due to motion blur or jpeg like
artifacts.
It's certianly slow and buggy, I'm guessing that is down to demand.
Overall I'd give it a grade C, could do better.
But, this has got me thinking... (a very dangerous thing)
If this can be done with OSM data, would it be possible to create a
Transport Tycoon type game along similar lines?
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Jennifer Campbell schreef:
If this can be done with OSM data, would it be possible to create a
Transport Tycoon type game along similar lines? Create bus routes and
run trains, boats, trucks along real streets? The only thing that I
doubt
El Jueves, 10 de Septiembre de 2009, Jennifer Campbell escribió:
It's certianly slow and buggy, I'm guessing that is down to demand.
Overall I'd give it a grade C, could do better.
I guess that it's overly unbalanced, given the surplus of players (and money)
into the system. Not to talk about
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:06 AM, wynnd...@lavabit.com wrote:
Why not go straight into Edit and Save and then have a button to go to
Edit Live (one click to go there as now)?
+1
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:28 AM, andrzej zaborowskibalr...@gmail.com wrote:
in this case I agree we should stick to the schema the way it was
originally defined, good or bad, and I normally only use addr:street
on the nodes.
+1
Another argument for doing that is that the addr:interpolation
2009/9/10 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:39 PM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Legal arguments aside, there is very few street signs I've seen on
google street view that I can read anyway, most of them seem to be
blurred out, either intentionally, due
On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote:
On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
confusing for this simple thing to map.
I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
ground around a church,
Craig Wallace schrieb:
On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote:
On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
confusing for this simple thing to map.
I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:52 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/9/9 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
If the way lines up with the GPS trace, the GPS trace was used as the
source
of data. If it doesn't, it wasn't (or it has been changed).
Am I missing some reason that's not
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:39 PM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
Legal arguments aside, there is very few street signs I've seen on
google street view that I can read anyway, most of them seem to be
On 10/09/2009 01:21, Ulf Lamping wrote:
Craig Wallace schrieb:
Though around here, quite a few of the graveyards next to churches are
operated by the council, and they are called placename Cemetery or
similar.
So what's the question now?
The question is what's the difference
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, there is some other, more practical arguments why such
checking isn't healthy thing to do. First of all, it's still just
another source, not field check. Second, it is quite interesting what
happens when you
Has anyone set a letter to Google's legal department asking for
clarification or permission?
-Dave
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Anthonyo...@inbox.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, there is some other, more practical arguments why
2009/9/10 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
If the fact is binary (can turn left/can't turn left), then checking is
equal to copying, right?
It seems there is 2 things in play here, 1 deriving information aka
copying, 2 and simply a fact that is being stated.
It seems to me most copyright questions
Craig Wallace schrieb:
On 10/09/2009 01:21, Ulf Lamping wrote:
Well, it's simply a bad thing to indicate stuff by something that's
nearby. What's nearby? 1m/10m/100m/1000m? Is it indicated by a
place_of_worship, a building=church or xy?
But why does it matter whether there is a church
What landuse would you recommend for a cemetery? It's been said that
all land should be covered by some landuse or other. Like putting in
Landuse=retail but also listing the individual shops as amenities.
So should we put both landuse=cemetery and an
amenity=cemetery/graveyard node, or are you
2009/9/10 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Richard's contribution was interesting though, and obviously does have
a basis in law (http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100).
Just because someone quotes legal cases doesn't mean it's legal
advice, I think OSM is to the point that it needs to seek
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
2009/9/10 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Richard's contribution was interesting though, and obviously does have
a basis in law (http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100).
Just because someone quotes legal cases
2009/9/10 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
I'm not sure what help a lawyer is going to be - they're not going to be
able to guarantee you that much of anything is 100% (or 99.9%) safe in 100%
(or 95%, weighted by user-base) of jurisdictions, especially not for free.
As Richard says in the comments, In
2009/9/10 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
But being able to say but lawyer X said we could! in court will not
make you immune to lawsuits. Nonetheless, legal advice from a lawyer
would be great - John, any ideas on how to get this?
It doesn't make you immune, but if you follow the legal
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/10 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
By the way, I think a cemetery is better described as an amenity, not
a landuse, as I think it is a useful and important facility moreso
than an area of land used by people
In your letter dated Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:40:58 +0200 you wrote:
Philip, zou jij over de nieuwe mogelijkheden van yournaivagtion.org een
presentatie willen verzorgen?
Dat zou eventueel kunnen als Lambertus een redelijke set slides heeft (en
die door mij wil laten gebruiken). Ik heb geen tijd om
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:43:18 +1000
Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com
wrote:
I've been doing that for a while (well, except waste_basket=*), so
that's a +1 from me :)
Any objections (from anyone) to adding these to
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 21:57:29 +1000
Hugh Barnes list@hughbris.com wrote:
I need to research a little more to see where it's at. It
builds on this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/unified_stoparea
but I think there is a tidier page somewhere.
Bah, I can't be
Slashdot has an interesting item;
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/09/2216255/TomTom-Anounces-an-Open-Source-GPS-Technology?art_pos=1
*According to OStatic, European company TomTom (which recently settled a
patent
Realmente foi a febre do dia. Eles falaram em mais de 1,7 milhões de
visitantes...
Pena que o OSM não foi muito citado na cobertura jornalística, mas só
o pequeno link na tela já deve atrair bastante gente para o projeto...
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Junior, Claudomiro
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