[Talk-transit] Novam viewer

2010-01-17 Thread Ed Loach
I verified a number of bus stops yesterday and entered the information this morning. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3638396 The help for the Novam viewer suggests that it is updated from minutely diffs, but these changes were uploaded an hour ago and don't seem to show in Novam

[Talk-transit] Fwd: Novam viewer

2010-01-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi Christoph, I hope that this helps. If not, Brett is happy to help with getting Osmosis working with the newer diffs. Shaun Begin forwarded message: From: Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com Date: 17 January 2010 21:34:42 GMT To: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-ph] Haiti

2010-01-17 Thread maning sambale
Sad indeed, you can do your part by mapping Haiti in OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti The OSM Haiti response is providing the most frequently updated data of Haiti in several formats which relief workers can use (GIS data, garmin maps, paper maps, etc.) The geospatial

[talk-ph] page documenting areas in the Philippines with available high resolution imagery

2010-01-17 Thread maning sambale
Hi, I started creating a page for showing which areas in the Philippines have high resolution imagery: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery Please improve the page layout and contents. The page is for newbies. It would be good if we can add more info such as:

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: ... and warning PD advocates if they edit CC-BY-SA/ODBL information and that the changes won't be public domain. Nice idea, but the main difficulty I see is that contributing to openstreetmap is a collaborative

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Maposmatic seems to do the job: http://www.maposmatic.org/ Gert Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens nicolas chavent Verzonden: zondag 17 januari 2010 2:01 Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org; crisismapp...@googlegroups.com CC: CJ Hendrix

Re: [OSM-talk] Extended GeoEye imagery now available for use on OSM

2010-01-17 Thread François Van Der Biest
Hi, Tiles are ready here : http://maps.nypl.org/relief/haiti.html. Thank's for the work Schuyler. Is there need for more bandwidth, or is it OK ? If needed, Camptocamp could host the dataset, eventually on Amazon. Cheers, F. On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Schuyler Erle schuy...@nocat.net wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Gary68
i have added a map using my own osmrender.pl here: http://www.gary68.de/temp/map_porto.png http://www.gary68.de/temp/map_porto.svg access from wiki page haiti is given. i am working on catastrophe specific map features and conversion to pdf. any hint for pdf conversion from command line highly

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Oops, forgot to send this to the main list. ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made. -- Forwarded message -- From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:55:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF To:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Gary68
so, do YOU or anyone else really need oo draw format. or was it just for conversion purposes? On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 01:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote: Oops, forgot to send this to the main list. ~ and in OpenOffice Draw, a PDF can be easily made. -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread gps
any hint for pdf conversion from command line highly appreciated! You don't say what OS this is needed for but take a look at: http://png2pdf.sourceforge.net/usage.html Looks like it'll work on both linux and windows platforms to convert PNG files to PDF. SVG to PDF seems not so well

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route won't render

2010-01-17 Thread Steve Bennett
(Just some musings, not sure I have much to contribute to this thread) On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Felix Hartmann extremecar...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I think route=mtb is more or less a consensus. Differentiation to route=bicycle is in 99% of all routes clear. It's more on the Good!

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route won't render

2010-01-17 Thread Liz
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Then we need a differentiation between oneday roundtrip routes (local) from A to B to A, and routes spanning multiple days (usually regional) from A to B to C. Do we? For starters, that seems pretty arbitrary: there are routes that some people

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route won't render

2010-01-17 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 17.01.2010 11:43, Liz wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Then we need a differentiation between oneday roundtrip routes (local) from A to B to A, and routes spanning multiple days (usually regional) from A to B to C. Do we? For starters, that seems pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/17 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: ... and warning PD advocates if they edit CC-BY-SA/ODBL information and that the changes won't be public domain. Nice idea, but the main difficulty I see is that

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Moeller
Felix Hartmann schrieb: I think the main part that has to be done here is that ferries, or motorails however as well aerialways get connected to the main road network using lines (routing over polygons is so complicated that no router will soon master it in a useful way). How they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jonas Krückel
Hi, Just a quick note about coordination. Unfortunately I don't have much time today to take care of this myself. Everyone working on this, please make sure to coordinate the efforts and avoid duplicated work. If you have more detailed specifications from Jochen, please share them in the Wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Carsten Moeller cmindivid...@gmx.de wrote: I do agree. Railways, aerialway etc. should be connected to highways. But this should not be expressed by connecting same nodes. Here ramps or links come into play. If you have a closer look at todays OSM-Data I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge improvements in their bag just five days ago (http://news.maposmatic.org/?p=83), just like: * Support for the whole world. Any location in the world can now be rendered on maposmatic.org. * OpenStreetMap database updated daily. Until now, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jonas Krückel
Can you maybe create several PDFs, upload them somewhere and link them on the Wikipage? This could save others the time that is needed to learn your great tool and create their own PDFs. Jonas Am 17.01.2010 um 13:38 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: I wanted to point that MapOSMatic has huge

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool, Questions: 1 - is there the options to print on other types of paper i.e A4; 11x17. As well as the standard 8.5x11. (i think thats what the aid worker was asking) 2 - is there a 'map key' printed on the 1st page? Ie. The symbol of the tent means 'temporary camp' the thick - means 'highway'

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment (Carsten Moeller)

2010-01-17 Thread Richard Bullock
A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? If I understood the intention correctly then highway is something you can drive on. No. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 08:34, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: ... and warning PD advocates if they edit CC-BY-SA/ODBL information and that the changes won't be public domain. Nice idea, but the main

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Möller
Richard Bullock schrieb: A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? If I understood the intention correctly then highway is something you

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment (Carsten Moeller)

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Möller
Richard Bullock schrieb: A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? If I understood the intention correctly then highway is something you

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment (Carsten Moeller)

2010-01-17 Thread Dave F.
Richard Bullock wrote: A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? The Italian Job? ;-) ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/17 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: Why would it be difficult? If a node was created under license X and has only been edited by other users allowing license X then it's under license X. If I understand correctly, Roy thinks this might start a free for all on licenses, which

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
That's not how the ODBL works. When the switch is made to the ODBL, every individual changeset/node/way/etc will be effectively in the PD (everyone in the world will have a non-revocable license to do anything restricted by copyright law). Only the database as a whole will be under ODBL. On

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: That's not how the ODBL works.  When the switch is made to the ODBL, every individual changeset/node/way/etc will be effectively in the PD (everyone in the world will have a non-revocable license to do anything restricted by copyright law).  Only the database

[OSM-talk] Haiti field reqs : Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile for import in osm

2010-01-17 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi there Ideal if an import of the Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile can be managed. This would complement the current gps extracts and turns these resources into a tremendous assets for Search And Rescue teams shp downloadable at

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:54 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: That's not how the ODBL works. When the switch is made to the ODBL, every individual changeset/node/way/etc will be effectively in the PD (everyone in the world will have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I didn't say it's invalid so much as it's redundant. All contributions are effectively PD anyway. Or, will be when/if the new contributor terms are adopted. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I didn't say it's invalid so much as it's redundant. All contributions are effectively PD anyway. That still isn't the point, people want to produce PD data that is readily accessible to all, not PD data shrink wraped with another license.

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:24 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I didn't say it's invalid so much as it's redundant. All contributions are effectively PD anyway. That still isn't the point, people want to produce PD data that is readily

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Why would it be difficult? If a node was created under license X and has only been edited by other users allowing license X then it's under license X. Unless, some share-alike advocates would say, the node was created with reference to a point Y that was

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: So one person needs to anonymously download everything from OSM and put it up on another website which doesn't have the ODbL on it. What you are suggesting is shady at best, and is no better than someone doing that with any other copyrighted material, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Why would it be difficult? If a node was created under license X and has only been edited by other users allowing license X then it's under license X. Unless, some share-alike

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Unless, some share-alike advocates would say, the node was created with reference to a point Y that was share-alike licensed and thus becomes a derived work. Except lat/lon isn't copyrightable, so a point alone probably isn't good enough to state

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:34 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: So one person needs to anonymously download everything from OSM and put it up on another website which doesn't have the ODbL on it. What you are suggesting is shady at best, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread DavidD
2010/1/17 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I didn't say it's invalid so much as it's redundant. All contributions are effectively PD anyway. That still isn't the point, people want to produce PD data that is readily accessible to all, not PD data

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: It's certainly much more legal to copy material for which you have explicit permission to copy than to copy material which is copyrighted and for which you don't have permission to copy.  See Again, I'll leave the legal opinions up to others to debate with

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Anthony wrote: How exactly does one get protection as a database owner? It's unclear to me how OSMF would get protection as a database owner since they're not the ones actually doing anything. You're right, just like Google doesn't own any of the data the GMM users upload because

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 DavidD thewi...@gmail.com: OSM has masses of CC-BY-SA data and contributors. How will the PD people deal with that? Start replacing the existing CC-BY-SA data and reverting any edits to PD data by CC-BY-SA contributors? The point more is for new data, than existing, but this is to

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:42 AM, DavidD thewi...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/17 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I didn't say it's invalid so much as it's redundant. All contributions are effectively PD anyway. That still isn't the point, people

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.orgwrote: Anthony wrote: How exactly does one get protection as a database owner? It's unclear to me how OSMF would get protection as a database owner since

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: What you are suggesting is shady at best, and is no better than someone doing that with any other copyrighted material, it doesn't make it any more legal to simply take it than it would be to take MS word uploaded somewhere. There is a difference regarding downstream

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: whereas if the data is not copyrighted, but given to me under a contract that stipulates that I may not put it up on a web site and say download and use freely then * I am in breach of contract * anyone who downloads

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 15:42, DavidD thewi...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/17 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2010/1/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org: I didn't say it's invalid so much as it's redundant. All contributions are effectively PD anyway. That still isn't the point, people want to

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: whereas if the data is not copyrighted, but given to me under a contract that stipulates that I may not put it up on a web site and say download and use freely then Assuming the data isn't copyrightable, the vector + lat/lon information may not be,

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route won't render

2010-01-17 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 17.01.2010 11:43, Liz wrote: On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Then we need a differentiation between oneday roundtrip routes (local) from A to B to A, and routes spanning multiple days (usually regional) from A to B to C. Do we? For starters, that seems pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to map : Help Albania with the flooding of Skoder!

2010-01-17 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
We have now some nice pictures: http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_1415474252_assetId=ACT-286 http://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseMetadata?buffer=1.0catalogId=101001000AF43700imageHeight=natresimageWidth=natres Could someone who has some

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Anthony wrote: But I think you're missing the fact that sites which try to restrict people from copying their databases pretty much universally do not provide database dumps. I don't think that matters at all. Whether or not a database dump is provided universally, or by accident, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi excellent folks, I figure the PDF product will be very slow on small mobile devices, and still slow on normal PC's, but I feel that is no showstopper, as you gain all the detail information, on a disconnected cheap device. So I think if the osmarender stylesheet would be adapted slightly to

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all, I did another try with osmarender, as the 22 MByte OSM file I exported in parts via josm might be inconsistent somehow. So I took the larger whole-Haiti (80MByte, http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/2010-01-17-02-44.osm.bz2 ) file to let it render, but it took 2 Gigs of RAM and after

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Anthony wrote: But I think you're missing the fact that sites which try to restrict people from copying their databases pretty much universally do not provide database dumps. I don't think that matters at all.

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti field reqs : Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile for import in osm

2010-01-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Domingo, 17 de Enero de 2010, nicolas chavent escribió: Hi there Ideal if an import of the Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile can be managed. This would complement the current gps extracts and turns these resources into a tremendous assets for Search And Rescue teams

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti field reqs : Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile for import in osm

2010-01-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/1/17 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El Domingo, 17 de Enero de 2010, nicolas chavent escribió: Hi there Ideal if an import of the Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile can be managed. This would complement the current gps extracts and turns these resources

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Haiti Field requirement: Haiti OSM maps in PDF

2010-01-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all, I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile? Hey thanks, man, this is highly appreciated! The stylesheet stuff could be good

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti field reqs : Port au Prince Search And Rescue sectors shapefile for import in osm

2010-01-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
I'm re-uploading the SAR zones. They should show in the map and the Garmin files in a few minutes. Please keep in mind that the original data has lots of artifacts: duplicated and triplicated boundaries may show up. I'll see if I can do anything about that. --

[OSM-talk] Fw: new imagery

2010-01-17 Thread Mikel Maron
Notice of new GeoEye imagery for Haiti == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org - Forwarded Message From: Chris NICHOLAS chris.nicho...@unoosa.org To: Miller Steve miller.st...@geoeye.com Cc: Byrnes Tara byrnes.t...@geoeye.com;

[OSM-talk] MXD for OSM data?

2010-01-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, Someone asked me for an ESRI MXD file for OSM data. Does such a thing exist? Does the question even make sense? I'm not very good at ESRI lingo, but apparently it's some kind of stylesheet. Thanks, Martijn Martijn van Exel Laziness – Impatience – Hubris http://schaaltreinen.nl

Re: [OSM-talk] MXD for OSM data?

2010-01-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 18 de Enero de 2010, Martijn van Exel escribió: Someone asked me for an ESRI MXD file for OSM data. Does such a thing exist? Short answer: no. Does the question even make sense? I'm not very good at ESRI lingo, but apparently it's some kind of stylesheet. Long answer: a .mxd file

Re: [OSM-talk] MXD for OSM data?

2010-01-17 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Lunes, 18 de Enero de 2010, Martijn van Exel escribió: Someone asked me for an ESRI MXD file for OSM data. Does such a thing exist? Short answer: no. Does the question even make sense? I'm not very good at ESRI lingo, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:31, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:46 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/18 DavidD thewi...@gmail.com: OSM has masses of CC-BY-SA data and contributors. How will the PD people deal with that? Start replacing the

[OSM-talk] Haiti Wiki Page Re-organizaiton; And Tasks and Ideas

2010-01-17 Thread Mikel Maron
The Haiti wiki page was getting unwieldy I think, so I re-organized into sub-pages with the hope that it's easier for someone to quickly find the information they need ... whether they are a map user, developer, and editor. Hopefully the overall structure makes sense. I fear I may have been a

Re: [OSM-talk] Using editors to indicate license preference.

2010-01-17 Thread John Smith
2010/1/18 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:31, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:46 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/18 DavidD thewi...@gmail.com: OSM has masses of CC-BY-SA data and contributors. How

Re: [OSM-talk] MXD for OSM data?

2010-01-17 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Lunes, 18 de Enero de 2010, Martijn van Exel escribió: Someone asked me for an ESRI MXD file for OSM data. Does such a thing exist? Short answer: no. If they need a way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti Wiki Page Re-organizaiton; And Tasks and Ideas

2010-01-17 Thread paul youlten
I've started a list of Disaster-specific tags: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disaster-specific_tags My experience of natural disasters is quite limited - please add/remove/improve PY On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: The Haiti wiki page was getting

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] AND nodes cleanup

2010-01-17 Thread Roeland Douma
Ai excuses! Denk een kleine typo in de query. Zover ik kan zien zijn het niet veel nodes geweest. Heb er nog enkele gevonden. Zal ze even fixen. Groet, --Roeland On Saturday 16 January 2010 14:47:34 Maarten Deen wrote: Ik kwam toevallig node 45101004 tegen die door de AND node-cleanup is

Re: [talk-au] downloaded routable garmin maps

2010-01-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: i've been playing with my oregon updated the software to latest downloaded the maps from osmaustralia.org found that qlandkartegt will not load the routable maps found that now one can load maps called something else than

[talk-au] Canberra - Survey War

2010-01-17 Thread Nick Hocking
Well done John. You beat me to the new Casey streets by a few hours. OK, the next opportunity, I think, will be some new streets in Forde, off Zakharov Avenue. The area seems to be very finished, including street signs and I suspect that in one or two weeks they may forget to close of all

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - Survey War

2010-01-17 Thread John Henderson
Nick Hocking wrote: Well done John. You beat me to the new Casey streets by a few hours. OK, the next opportunity, I think, will be some new streets in Forde, off Zakharov Avenue. The area seems to be very finished, including street signs and I suspect that in one or two weeks they

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - Survey War

2010-01-17 Thread Liz
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, John Henderson wrote: I've been considering sneaking in on my MTB to make a start on Crace, but there's always workmen about. Even on Sundays? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - Survey War

2010-01-17 Thread John Henderson
Liz wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, John Henderson wrote: I've been considering sneaking in on my MTB to make a start on Crace, but there's always workmen about. Even on Sundays? Absolutely! John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-is] Ný tölfræði um Ísland á OSM

2010-01-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Ísland er komið á stat.latlon.org: http://stat.latlon.org/is/latest/ ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is

Re: [Talk-is] ourFootPrints.de gögnin að koma á OpenStreetMap

2010-01-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 20:29, Karl Palsson tw...@tweak.net.au wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Tom að mestu rakið vegi bæði frá egin GPS ferlum og u.þ.b. 30 annara sem hafa sent honum gögn en hann segir að um 95% af kortinu sé búið til svona, 5% er teiknað eftir lokuðum kortum (LMÍ

Re: [Talk-is] ourFootPrints.de gögnin að koma á OpenStreetMap

2010-01-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 22:47, Christoph L. Hess christ...@hess-familie.de wrote: just checked Seltjarnarnes. Took me not even 10min to check the data. Well, this was especially easy as the data in OSM was present and much more consistent and accurate. So I just needed to delete all the OFP

Re: [Talk-de] Notrufsäulen Positionen

2010-01-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency_phone http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency_access_point Für emergency_access_point bei der Forstverwaltung SH stehe ich in Kontakt. Gruß Jan :-) ___

Re: [Talk-de] Notrufsäulen Positionen

2010-01-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin! Kürzlich hatte einer von der Björn-Steiger-Stiftung gesprochen. Mehr weiß ich nicht - hat sich wohl im Sande verlaufen. Mußt Du nochmal recherchieren. Gruß Jan :-) Am 17.01.2010 04:03, schrieb Jonas Stein: Hallo, falls jemand Interesse hat, sich den Notrufsäulen anzunehmen: Ich habe

[Talk-de] PostGIS vs. MySQL [was: Re: OpenLinkMap]

2010-01-17 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo Sven. Am Sonntag 17 Januar 2010 00:52:05 schrieb Sven Geggus: * die Daten werden nun in einer MySQL-Datenbank gespeichert dadurch eine höhere Geschwindigkeit und schnelleres Laden Wäre da nicht eine Postgis die bessere Wahl gewesen? Was genau wäre der Vorteil? Ich habe mir mal ein

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! interessant - es sollte eine Blackliste geben um Links zu filtern. Bei uns hat einer die Paketstation mit dem Link zu http://www.dhl.de/content/de/de/paket/privatkunden/packstation.html versehen. Mann stelle sich vor das macht einer mit Briefkästen, Telefonzellen und bei Lampen zum

Re: [Talk-de] Aufruf

2010-01-17 Thread Karl Weber
Am Samstag, 16. Januar 2010 13:12 schrieb Sven Geggus: Blödsinn, das ist bei Open Source Projekten doch normal. Das Kind hat sogar einen Namen: Flamewar http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame Alo einfach nicht so ernst nehmen. In dem von Dir zitierten Artikel steht auch, Zitat: Flaming wird in

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Florian Gross wrote: Am Do Januar 14 2010 glaubte Frederik Ramm zu wissen: In groesseren Gemeinden gibt es sicher ein eigenes Strassenbauamt; in den kleineren aber koennte es sein, dass es irgendwo eine regionale Schilderfirma gibt und alle

Re: [Talk-de] Aufruf

2010-01-17 Thread Florian Gross
Am So Januar 17 2010 glaubte Karl Weber zu wissen: Am Samstag, 16. Januar 2010 13:12 schrieb Sven Geggus: Blödsinn, das ist bei Open Source Projekten doch normal. Das Kind hat sogar einen Namen: Flamewar http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame Alo einfach nicht so ernst nehmen. In dem von

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Reincke
Florian Lohoff schrieb: Naja - aber zumindest fuer Geschwindigkeiten und Park/Haltebeschraenkungen muss es einen Beschilderungsplan geben. Sonst waere jedes Knoellchen beliebig anfechtbar weil niemand weiss wo und wann die Schilder aufgestellt wurden. Ganau das hat jemand bei dem Blitzer

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! Blaue Schilder stehen doch an jeder Ecke und eine Vielzahl von denen erledigt sich doch durch die eigentliche Straßenführung. Beispiel: Nur Gerade aus zulässige und nicht in die Seitenstraße einbiegen - sowieso nicht möglich, da Einbahnstraße. Wenn man die jetzt alle in einer Karte

[Talk-de] A20: Lübeck-Süd bis Segeberg

2010-01-17 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! in den Lübecker Nachrichten ist heute der Aufmacher das die A20 im Bereich HL-Süd bis SE (Weede) in keinem der Navi-Systeme erfaßt ist und ich habe darüber nachgedacht einen OSM-Verweis in einem Leserbrief zu schreiben. Leider fehlt mir etwas die Zeit die Daten, auch unter dem TMS

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-17 Thread Gerry Light
Alexander Matheisen wrote: Entweder kenne ich da ein Feature noch nicht oder kenne es und verstehe gerade nicht, was du meinst. Wie kann man sich denn vom OSM-Server eine Relation rendern lassen? Klär mich bitte auf! Dann habe ich mich wahrscheinlich falsch ausgedrückt. Also noch mal

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Alexander Matheisen alexandermathei...@ish.de wrote: PostgreSQL mit PostGIS ist natürlich in Sachen Geodaten besser geeingnet als MySQL. PostGIS kann geospacial Indices und ich denke die sollten definitiv Aber mein Gratishoster bietet zwar PostgreSQL, aber kein Postgis. Außerdem habe ich

Re: [Talk-de] PostGIS vs. MySQL [was: Re: OpenLinkMap]

2010-01-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org wrote: Was genau wäre der Vorteil? Dass man geospacial indexes hat. Damit kann man ganz schnell alle Objekte innerhalb einer bounding Box selektieren. Und da Postgres halt nicht Shared-Hosting-geeignet ist [1] und man für solche Projekte sicherlich keinen

[Talk-de] Auswertung von Relationstags

2010-01-17 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi, ich habe mir ein Script für die Auswertung von Relations tags geschrieben. Die Auswertung soll ähnlich wie tagwatch die verwendeten Tags auflisten. Die tags wurden hierarchisch sortiert: type=enforcement, enforcement=maxspeed, maxspeed=50 wird vereinfacht geschrieben zu: enforcement

Re: [Talk-de] A20: Lübeck-Süd bis Segeberg

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Moin, Am Sonntag 17. Januar 2010 12:40:10 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Leider fehlt mir etwas die Zeit die Daten, auch unter dem TMS (?)-Gesichtspunkt zu prüfen. Die TMC-Daten stehen in der entsprechenden Relation (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/21450) und sehen soweit vollständig

[Talk-de] Relationen aus osm-Dateien herausfiltern

2010-01-17 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi, für meine Relationsauswertung muss ich die Relationen aus den osm-Dateien herausfiltern. Derzeit verwende ich folgenden Workaround: bzip2 -dc bw.osm.bz2 | head -n 3 bw_relations.osm bzip2 -dc bw.osm.bz2 | grep -A 10 relation bw_relations.osm Getestet habe ich auch

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Claus Färber
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org schrieb/wrote: Aber im Gegensatz zu die Strasse XY hat den folgenden Verlauf frage ich ja eigentlich nicht nach Geodaten, sondern nach Erlassen oder Verordnungen oder was auch immer - es muss doch irgendeinen Verwaltungsakt geben, der letzten Endes in dem

[Talk-de] Relationsabfrage über XAPI -- Bug oder Feature?

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Hallo an alle, seit ca. Anfang Dezember 2009 erhält man bei einer Abfrage nach Relationseigenschaften über die XAPI auch alle dazu gehörenden Wege und Knoten mit geliefert. Vorher hatte man nur die Eigenschaften und Mitglieder bekommen, was ich gern wieder so hätte. :-) Beispiel zum testen

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-17 Thread Sebastian Klemm
Hallo Alexander, auch von mir vielen Dank für Dein Engagement und die tolle Karte! Gerry Light schrieb: Alexander Matheisen wrote: Wie kann man sich denn vom OSM-Server eine Relation rendern lassen? Klär mich bitte auf!

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Tirkon
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Irgendjemand muss die doch aufstellen, und dieser jemand muss doch auch eine Liste haben, wo er welche aufgestellt hat. Koennte man auf diesem Wege vielleicht wenigstens an unscharfe Daten herankommen, die die Community dann noch veredelt? Selbst wenn

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, ?wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Thomas Ineichen osm.mailingl...@t-i.ch wrote: Bedenke dabei bitte aber, dass solche Tafeln auch dort stehen, wo OSM keine Abbiegerelation benötigt, da die verbotene Strasse eine Einbahnstrasse in die falsche Richtung ist. Das heißt aber doch nur, dass die Abbiegerelation dort redundant ist.

Re: [Talk-de] Schilder - wer stellt sie auf, kontrolliert, wartet sie?

2010-01-17 Thread Ulf Möller
Tirkon schrieb: Selbst wenn diese Infos vorliegen, könnte es schwierig werden, diese zu bekommen. Wenn ich sehe, wie die Behörden selbst auf den profanen Straßenlisten sitzen. In den meisten Bundesländern müssen die Behörden solche Informationen inzwischen herausgeben:

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen aus osm-Dateien herausfiltern

2010-01-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Werner Hoch wrote: Derzeit verwende ich folgenden Workaround: bzip2 -dc bw.osm.bz2 | head -n 3 bw_relations.osm bzip2 -dc bw.osm.bz2 | grep -A 10 relation bw_relations.osm Eine krude Form mit sed ginge so: bzcat bw.osm.bz2 | sed -e 1,/relation/d bla.osm

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