[talk-ph] Fwd: mailing list for openstreetmap philippines local chapter/organization

2010-07-03 Thread maning sambale
Hi, Any ideas for the name of the openstreetmap philippines organization mailing list? Forwarded conversation Subject: mailing list for openstreetmap philippines local chapter/organization From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:54 PM

[talk-ph] JOSM question.

2010-07-03 Thread jc tn
hello maning,I have a question on JOSM. What was that command on drawing a building from a straight line by dragging.I had some free time this weekend and was fooling around with JOSM plus the neat tricks youshowed me on the SKILLSHARE.But can't find that command somehow.Also as luck would have

Re: [talk-ph] JOSM question.

2010-07-03 Thread maning sambale
the triangle icon, or simply X on your keyboard On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:23 PM, jc tn jctan...@yahoo.com wrote: hello maning, I have a question on JOSM. What was that command on drawing a building from a straight line by dragging. I had some free time this weekend and was fooling around

Re: [talk-ph] JOSM question.

2010-07-03 Thread maning sambale
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Also as luck would have it.  OSM is down on maintenance.  So just doing offline practice. And it's back! Overall Status: Up and running -- cheers, maning --

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: mailing list for openstreetmap philippines local chapter/organization

2010-07-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I was thinking of talk-ph-org so that it will come after talk-ph. I guess Mike's naming convention fits my idea. :-) Now that I think about it, since we *do* plan to eventually become an official chapter, talk-ph-chapter would be better than talk-ph-org. talk-ph-localchapter is a little too long.

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: mailing list for openstreetmap philippines local chapter/organization

2010-07-03 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
Not that we dont have the resources to setup our own mailing list, we do actually. I was wondering if in general we should host all OSMPH Inc discussions and information on our own domain like OSMF and OSM US does? Andre ___ talk-ph mailing list

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: mailing list for openstreetmap philippines local chapter/organization

2010-07-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
That makes sense actually. All community-related discussion will be on openstreetmap.org while all OSM-PH Org discussions will be on openstreetmap.org.ph. Sounds good to me. What do other people think? On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.comwrote: Not that we

[OSM-talk] correcting/helping inexperienced mappers

2010-07-03 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Pieren wrote: I don't understand you. If they don't follow and don't cross, then you don't have duplicate nodes anyway... The TIGER import has numerous topological errors, including many highways crossing boundaries when they really don't (due to one or both being in the wrong position). TIGER

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Lars Francke
A short remark although this is the wrong place to discuss the topic: I agree with this. This thread isn't the topic to discuss license issue although I'm happy to answer any concrete questions in a separate thread, at the SotM or via private mail. I'll have to say though that I don't have deep

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Konrad Skeri
One possibility is to just use highway=link and then let the renderes sort out the rest. A link is after all just a link no matter what it connects, so there's really no reason for a *_link except when tagging for the renderer, which we shouldn't do. Konrad 2010/6/25 Lester Caine

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 19:50, Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com wrote: One possibility is to just use highway=link and then let the renderes sort out the rest. A link is after all just a link no matter what it It may not be possible for preprocessing or renderers to figure it out. connects, so there's

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 11:18, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: As a few people pointed out, we always tag some things for the renderer, like highway=primary/secondary/etc... I disagree that this is tagging for the renderer. Rather, it is rendering for the tags. The highway tag assigns a

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 20:35, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 11:18, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: As a few people pointed out, we always tag some things for the renderer, like highway=primary/secondary/etc... I disagree that this is tagging for the renderer.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
But to reiterate: I'd love to have a PD-like license or as Richard has said even better: I'd like anything that is non-share-alike. And I don't agree with Oliver conclusion on what would happen (corporate take over). Interesting remark: the one says something like I want to have a Volkswagen

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 20:39, Oliver (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de wrote: license. In essence I would like to understand who is intended to benefit from a PD-license, mappers, consumers, developers, companies, data donors? I Some data is being released in Australia from governments under cc-by

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 11:37, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't see a point for anything but motorway_link, but what is the difference between what you said and what others are suggesting for other *_link roads? Firstly, I haven't suggested anything for *_link roads, I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 21:14, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, I haven't suggested anything for *_link roads, I've simply disagreed with your assertion that our use of the highway tagging represents tagging for the renderer. On balance I tend to prefer links that know what type of road

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread David Murn
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 20:37 +1000, John Smith wrote: On 3 July 2010 20:35, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 11:18, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: As a few people pointed out, we always tag some things for the renderer, like

[OSM-talk] OSM is back after maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread Grant Slater
Talk, OpenStreetMap is now back after the planned maintenance. Happy mapping. / Grant Part of OpenStreetMap sysadmin team. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread maning sambale
Is it back now? I was able to edit a few minutes ago. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like this just started. Have to remember to pick up some anti-anxiety meds on the way home from work tonight. Must... edit... map! On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 21:30, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: I think any road can have a link road (trunk, primary, etc), especially any grade-separated crossings, which dont necessarily have to be motorway. For large intersections with separate slip-lanes, I often mark the slip lanes as

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is back after maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread Liz
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010, Grant Slater wrote: Talk, OpenStreetMap is now back after the planned maintenance. Happy mapping. / Grant Part of OpenStreetMap sysadmin team. thanks guys we won't have to chat on irc any more now (talk-au) ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 July 2010 12:32, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is it back now?  I was able to edit a few minutes ago. Yes we are back. There are a few minor issues we are working on resolving. Replication diffs are not yet working. This effects things like tile.openstreetmap.org and

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796lon=5.62046zoom=15layers=B000FTFT Although I have managed to get

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is back after maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 03/07/2010 13:32, Grant Slater a écrit sur talk : Talk, OpenStreetMap is now back after the planned maintenance. Happy mapping. / Grant Part of OpenStreetMap sysadmin team. OSM est de retour après maintenance. Thanks to you. -- FrFiPovm

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
Some data is being released in Australia from governments under cc-by licenses, and they would possibly benefit from OSM having a cc-by compatible license, I'm sure some other donors would be in the same boat. If it is for the sake of compliance with licenses of data donors then there will

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
Maarten Deen wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out: http://nroets.dev.openstreetmap.org/demo/?lat=52.32796lon=5.62046zoom=15layers=B000FTFT Although I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 22:40, Oliver (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de wrote: If it is for the sake of compliance with licenses of data donors then there will always be cases that fit with one license type and don't fit with with other license types. It might also be that the majority of data donors

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 12:24, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I fail to see how you have disagreed, you are twisting logic to suit yourself, on one hand it's ok to arbitrarily tag various highway=* tags, but on the other hand it's not ok to arbitrarily tag highway=*_link... It's not OK

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 23:09, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: It's not OK to arbitrarily tag highways. But different parts of the world have established different norms according to which they do so. By norms you mean making arbitrarily decisions on highways, rather than any kind of objective

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
John, John Smith wrote: I'm not aware of any entities that would share more data if OSM used a cc-by compatible license, in fact I've been told some governments agencies are unhappy that they have to share at all, but they definitely would not be happen with anything less than an attribution

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 23:16, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 4. It is my personal opinion that advocates of share-alike licenses are driven less by the desire to create something great, but more by the desire to ringfence, protect, defend what they think is their property against imaginary

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
John, John Smith wrote: What you quoted had nothing to do with share-a-like, but was specifically about attribution... But the underlying idea of property is required for attribution as well; you cannot force people to provide attribution without first claiming that the data is yours and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 23:16, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 2. Imports and government cooperation are not crucial to OSM's success. What would make OSM successful in your eyes? I thought one of the goals was to have OSM used more widely? If so government users should be given the same

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 July 2010 23:27, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: But the underlying idea of property is required for attribution as well; you cannot force people to provide attribution without first claiming that the data is yours and yours alone and only by following your license will people be

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Kevin Peat
On 3 July 2010 14:27, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: But the underlying idea of property is required for attribution as well; you cannot force people to provide attribution without first claiming that the data is yours and yours alone and only by following your license will people

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: people who [...] go away and join the RIAA. But that is my personal opinion There is this copyright researcher, Mathias Klang[1], working on CC in Sweden who gave some categories of people who argue about copyright. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 14:14, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 23:09, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: It's not OK to arbitrarily tag highways. But different parts of the world have established different norms according to which they do so. By norms you mean making

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 01:34, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 14:14, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 23:09, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: It's not OK to arbitrarily tag highways. But different parts of the world have established different

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread john whelan
Since a fair number of home computers pcs these days have quad cores, 6 or more gigs of memory and 64 bit operating systems, perhaps it might make sense to come up with a Windows stand alone solution and decentralise the server computing requirements. Cheerio John On 2 July 2010 10:43, Tom

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 16:43, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Well please describe the objective criteria you use to tag highways then... Here they are: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Ireland#Highway We do have a dilemma for how to fit 3 grades of local road into tertiary

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 16:54, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: All that has happened is the arbitrary decisions have been deferred to someone else, in this case some government entity... That doesn't mean highways are classified by objective criteria :) I think you need to buy a

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 01:46, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Since a fair number of home computers pcs these days have quad cores, 6 or more gigs of memory and 64 bit operating systems, perhaps it might make sense to come up with a Windows stand alone solution and decentralise the server

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread john whelan
I was only thinking of using the local computer resources for the local user, not going cloud. Cheerio John On 3 July 2010 12:03, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 July 2010 01:46, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Since a fair number of home computers pcs these days

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 01:56, Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 July 2010 16:54, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: All that has happened is the arbitrary decisions have been deferred to someone else, in this case some government entity... That doesn't mean highways are classified

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 02:07, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I was only thinking of using the local computer resources for the local user, not going cloud. For that specific problem you still have a large chunk of data to transfer before the local computer resource can do something useful

[OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 July 9th - 11th Last Call

2010-07-03 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:12 AM 2/07/2010, Mike Collinson wrote: Europeans, why sit at home and watch your team get beaten by the Brazilians? Switch off the TV and immediately follow these steps: Well of course what I meant to say was the Argentines, ... er, no I didn't. Slick marketing was never my strong point.

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread john whelan
Many users are only interested in the local city and not too worried about having the latest version of the map. People have used three year old printed maps quite happily for years and for foot, public transport and cycling a cached map on the device works fine most of the time. Render with

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
What would make OSM successful in your eyes? I thought one of the goals was to have OSM used more widely? This is the right type of question but you need to create an even more basic understanding: I haven't seen a common understanding of the definition of OSM's success. Where did you find the

Re: [OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-07-03 Thread Dermot McNally
On 3 July 2010 17:09, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Meaning you are trying to make an arbitrary decision, because someone else hasn't made it for you. Our arbitrary decision is to decide whether a moderately crappy country lane might just be significant enough to call tertiary -

[OSM-talk] Why quality is more important than routing speed

2010-07-03 Thread Nic Roets
There is a lot of talk around better algorithms (e.g. contraction hierarchies), distributed routing, stress tests etc. So I'm going to put in into perspective with a few calculations. For a 40km journey, Gosmore takes 50ms*. So let's say Errol costs around $10,000 and you want to pay it off in 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps

2010-07-03 Thread Alex S.
Maxim Dubinin wrote: Everyone spied on everyone and I guess continue to do so. A group of Russians were just arrested in Seattle on that very charge... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering street names across several ways

2010-07-03 Thread Alex S.
andrzej zaborowski wrote: I think the rules for joining segments by osm2pgsql should be something like: * name='s are equal, * highway/railway/waterway/aeroway class is equal (however I wouldn't mind osm2pgsql joining a 3-segment way where the middle segment is shared with a tramway) * only two

[OSM-talk] need help in creating webmap for showing jagged/saw-tooth coastlines

2010-07-03 Thread maning sambale
Hi, We have been cleaning up our coastlines in the Philippines, the original coastline was an import of jagged/staircase-like coasts. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections A perl script was created to report the starting point (lat,long) and the number

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 14:15, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 July 2010 04:21, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Many users are only interested in the local city and not too worried about having the latest version of the map. People have used three year old printed maps quite

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 04:21, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Many users are only interested in the local city and not too worried about having the latest version of the map. People have used three year old printed maps quite happily for years and for foot, public transport and cycling a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 07:22, Oliver (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de wrote: What would make OSM successful in your eyes? I thought one of the goals was to have OSM used more widely? This is the right type of question but you need to create an even more basic understanding: I haven't seen a common

[OSM-talk] search field not vivisble when not logged in

2010-07-03 Thread Roman Neumüller
Hi all, The main page (map) doesn't show the search field when not being logged in - this is not very user friendly and doesn't conform to a wiki like site where the search field is usually good visible and placed high on a page (I had to scroll down half a VW lenght on my 1024*768 screen to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 04-07-10 06:23, John Smith schreef: On 4 July 2010 07:22, Oliver (skobbler) osm.oliver.ku...@gmx.de wrote: What would make OSM successful in your eyes? I thought one of the goals was to have OSM used more widely? This is the right type of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Candidacy] AGM Foundation 2010 - Girona

2010-07-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 July 2010 14:34, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: The point is that *no* major company actually said, 'if you switch to ODbL then we will use it', while it is a claim companies don't use OSM because of cc-by-sa. I don't see the problem solved, do you? I doubt I'd make it very

[OSM-talk-nl] OSM nederland: Nieuw Elan

2010-07-03 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Beste OSM collega's We zijn zo ongeveer op het punt gekomen dan NL heel redelijk op de kaart staat, en ook de fietspaden voor zover deze in een knooppuntennetwerk liggen. Nic Roets heeft een mooie integratie gemaakt van een routeplanner in de OSM.ORG site ( althans een werkende

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM nederland: Nieuw Elan

2010-07-03 Thread Maarten Deen
ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Mijn vraag aan de NL community is nu of wij het voortouw kunnen nemen in een stategische aanpak van het NL wegennetwerk vwb het onderscheid in toegestane voertuigen fietsen, bromfietsen, de rest van de map, en een eenrichtingsweg moet

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM nederland: Nieuw Elan

2010-07-03 Thread Andre Engels
2010/7/3 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: IMHO moet je erg voorzichtig zijn met het zomaar op wegen aangeven van toegangsbeperkingen, vooral als die in het echt niet aanwezig zijn maar wel logisch zijn. Ik denk dan aan provinciale wegen waar een fietspad langs ligt. Je moet die provinciale weg

Re: [talk-au] Bribie Island OpenStreetMap Mapping Party coming up soon! (Sat 17 July)

2010-07-03 Thread David Dean
Hi everyone, Only two weeks to go until the next Brisbane OSM Meetup at Bribie Island! Read below for more details. - David On 28 June 2010 16:55, David Dean dd...@ieee.org wrote: Hi everyone, OSM mapping party propaganda follows. Please pass onto anyone you think might be interested. -

Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas

2010-07-03 Thread James Livingston
On 30/06/2010, at 7:48 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: Is it worth using an additional classification:qld=national_park|conservation_park|state_forest, etc. (or similar), just to make things extra clear? That is, when you use a rule like Conservation Parks get boundary=protected_area, I think it

Re: [Talk-br] State of Brazil

2010-07-03 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Vitor, não sabia que você tinha sido selecionado, parabéns! Ia adicionar exatamente os mesmos pontos que o Claudomiro selecionou. Pode comentar rapidamente também a minha participação na proposição de tags de estacionamento de rua [1]. Mais alguém já propôs alguma coisa? []s 1:

Re: [Talk-br] State of Brazil

2010-07-03 Thread Bráulio Bezerra da Silva
Love hotel é uma das coisas mais urgentes! 2010/7/3 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com Vitor, não sabia que você tinha sido selecionado, parabéns! Ia adicionar exatamente os mesmos pontos que o Claudomiro selecionou. Pode comentar rapidamente também a minha participação na

Re: [Talk-br] State of Brazil

2010-07-03 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
and Last but not Least... O MAPA! Vc pode pegar nossa apresentação do ano passado e conferir todas as cidades que não tinham cido citadas... Eram porque não tinham praticamente nada mapeado... nesse ultimo ano, em praticamente todas cidades cobertas pelo Yahoo houve muito progresso - Brasília,

Re: [Talk-br] State of Brazil

2010-07-03 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Love Hotel! Já tinha até esquecido dessa proposta :X Em 3 de julho de 2010 20:28, Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com escreveu: Love hotel é uma das coisas mais urgentes! 2010/7/3 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com Vitor, não sabia que você tinha sido

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Klaus Diehl
Im Ansatz super! Nur hätte ich gerne, dass Waypoint bestehen bleiben, wenn ich sie als solche einsetze. Das Teil führt mich immer wieder mit dem Fahrrad über die Autobahn, weil es da kürzer oder schneller ist. Beim Planen  einer Fahrradtour möchte ich gerne die wesentlichen Wegepunkte festlegen.

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread steffterra
Am 02.07.2010 um 20:44 schrieb fx99: Bicycle (routes) geht bei mir auch über die Autobahn, genauso Moped und Mofa. Car und Bicycle sehen sehr gut aus. Foot geht teilweise mitten auf der Straße statt parallelem Radweg. Ist doch noch heavy beta. Ist ja nicht umsonst nur auf der dev-Seite.

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 07/03/2010 09:24 AM, steffterra wrote: Ist doch noch heavy beta. Ist ja nicht umsonst nur auf der dev-Seite. Also warum nicht erstmal abwarten, was noch passiert, und dann nochmal drüber schauen, ob das gewünschte funktioniert. Weiss eigentlich jemand, ob da cloudmade seine Finger mit

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Walter Nordmann
Frederik Ramm wrote: Ich finde Nics Demo interessant, nehme aber an, dass sie fuer den praktischen Einsatz auf www.openstreetmap.org nicht in Frage kommt, weil sie nicht schnell genug dafuer sein wird (@Sven G.: pfeilschnell ist bei mir was anderes!); er verwendet einen zwar

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread bundesrainer
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[Talk-de] Zusammenarbeit mit der Rureifel Tourismus e.V.

2010-07-03 Thread Lothar Emmerich
Am kommenden Dienstag (6.7.) findet im Rathaus von Kreuzau (Nordeifel) eine geschlossene Sitzung statt. Themen: - Straffung des vorhandenen Wegenetzes - Bessere Koordinierung und Zusammenarbeit mit den örtlichen Wandervereinen - Nutzung der in OSM schon gesammelten Daten - Wie kann eine

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo, am 03.07.2010 10:22 schrieb bundesrainer: Bei der Ortssuche wird anscheinend der erstbeste Eintrag von Nominatim genommen. So wird bei Bad Honnef die Verwaltungsgrenze (bzw. deren Startpunkt gewählt) ausgewählt. Die Ortssuche ist tatsächlich recht entwicklungsfähig. Will ich z.B. in

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Sven Geggus
Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Schlimmer finde ich ja, dass Bicycle auch entgegen von oneway=yes routet. Hier in meiner Umgebung ist das bei den meisten residential Einbahnstraßen onehin erlaubt. Sven -- How to prevent Java from forking? Use a spoon. (Found on http://slashdot.org) /me is

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Sven Geggus
fx99 f...@vollbio.de wrote: Bicycle (routes) geht bei mir auch über die Autobahn, genauso Moped und Mofa. Irgendwie ist da ein Bug drin. Wenn man Bicycle auswählt erhält man Routing über die Autobahn. Erst wenn man Find route drückt erhält man eine Fahrradtaugliche Strecke. Sven -- Das

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Sven Geggus
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: @Sven G.: pfeilschnell ist bei mir was anderes!) Ich hab jetzt nicht KA - HH probiert sondern eine meienr 30km Radstrecken und da war das _erheblich_ schneller als Openrouteservice. Sven -- Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes itself,

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Klaus Diehl
Super Teil!! Ich bin gerade dabei unsere Sieg-Lahn-Radtour auf meinen Garmin eTrex H zu übertragen. Dafür kommt dieses Tool gerade zurecht. Den ersten Teilabschnitt habe ich soeben in eine gpx-Datei gesichert. Ich weiß nur noch nicht genau, wie ich das auf den Garmin bringe. Aber das kriegen wir

[Talk-de] Mailingliste für die Region Frankfurt

2010-07-03 Thread Max Andre
Hallo zusammen, ich habe für die Region Frankfurt am Main nun auch endlich eine eigene Mailingliste einrichten lassen. Seit heute ist die Liste online und darf ab sofort reichlich genutzt werden ;) Auf der Liste sollen alle regionalen Anliegen aus der Region Frankfurt / Rhein-Main diskutiert

Re: [Talk-de] Mailingliste für die Region Frankfurt

2010-07-03 Thread Benjamin Hagemann
Hallo telegnom, * Max Andre telegnom@googlemail.com [2010-07-03 11:57]: ich habe für die Region Frankfurt am Main nun auch endlich eine eigene Mailingliste einrichten lassen. Seit heute ist die Liste online und darf ab sofort reichlich genutzt werden ;) Auf der Liste sollen alle

Re: [Talk-de] Bahnhöfe-Proposal

2010-07-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/2 Walter Nordmann walter.nordm...@web.de: 2+ demnächst mappt einer noch taubenställe und die flugrouten der ... weshalb sollte man denn keine Taubenställe mappen? Hier ging es um Unterfuehrungen, und die sind es m.E. genauso wie Tunnel durchaus wuerdig, erfasst zu werden, auch wenn

Re: [Talk-de] Bahnhöfe-Proposal

2010-07-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 2. Juli 2010 19:56 schrieb Fips Schneider o...@fips-schneider.de: ...ich frage mich sowieso langsam, wofür wir eigentlich mappen. Wir machen an machen Stellen die Karte durch das strikte befolgen wir mappen nicht für Renderer, GPS-Geräte, Routing, Firmen, Autos, ??! keine Ahnung, was

Re: [Talk-de] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Server-Wartung Anfang Juli

2010-07-03 Thread Kai Krueger
Die Wartungsarbeiten scheinen nun erfolgreich beendet zu sein und OpenStreetMap sollte wieder voll funktionsfaehig sein Happy mapping, Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Fwd-OSM-talk-OSM-Server-Wartung-Anfang-Juli-tp5224085p5250761.html Sent from the Germany

[Talk-de] OpenCuisineMap

2010-07-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hallo zusammen, da mittlerweile geklärt ist wo geraucht oder nicht geraucht wird ist es an der Zeit sich auf das Wesentliche zu konzentrieren: Wo gibt es mein Lieblingsessen Es gab ja bereits den Wunsch nach so einer Karte, also ist sie hier: http://toolserver.org/~stephankn/cuisine/ Lust

Re: [Talk-de] Bot zur Änderung von Wikipedialinks?

2010-07-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 2. Juli 2010 20:01 schrieb Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Deshalb würde ich eben so etwas machen: wikipedia = [Französisch]:[Eiffelturm-Artikel] wikipedia:[Indonesisch] = [Paris-Artikel] Zu interpretieren wäre das so: * Der Wert von wikipedia=* ist Quelle für die Interwiki-Links zu

Re: [Talk-de] OpenCuisineMap

2010-07-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Juli 2010 13:11 schrieb Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: Hallo zusammen, da mittlerweile geklärt ist wo geraucht oder nicht geraucht wird ist es an der Zeit sich auf das Wesentliche zu konzentrieren: Wo gibt es mein Lieblingsessen Es gab ja bereits den Wunsch nach so einer

Re: [Talk-de] Zusammenarbeit mit der Rureifel Tourismus e.V.

2010-07-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Juli 2010 10:23 schrieb Lothar Emmerich l.emmer...@freenet.de: - ist der OSM Composer der geeignete Renderer zur Generierung von Wanderkarten unter Berücksichtigung regionaler Gegebenheiten? regionale Gegebenheiten ergeben sich doch in erster Linie aus den Daten, und nicht aus dem Tool.

Re: [Talk-de] Mailingliste für die Region Frankfurt

2010-07-03 Thread Max Andre
Hallo, Am 3. Juli 2010 12:06 schrieb Benjamin Hagemann be...@benny.de: Hallo telegnom, * Max Andre telegnom@googlemail.com [2010-07-03 11:57]: ich habe für die Region Frankfurt am Main nun auch endlich eine eigene Mailingliste einrichten lassen. Seit heute ist die Liste online und darf

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Juli 2010 00:11 schrieb Andreas Neumann andr-neum...@gmx.net: Böser Fehler Fahrräder werden durch Fußgängerzonen geroutet, die nicht für freigegeben sind... sind sie denn gesperrt fuer Fahrraeder (bicycle=no)? Gruss Martin ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] OpenCuisineMap

2010-07-03 Thread Stephan Knauss
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: http://toolserver.org/~stephankn/cuisine/ nett. (Ein kleiner Typo: Kebeb statt Kebab im Auswahlmenu, und gibt es nicht auch asian als cuisine typ? Typo ist gefixt. Ich habe die Types gelistet für die ich Icons hatte. In der Datenbank sind noch viel mehr Sachen

Re: [Talk-de] OpenCuisineMap

2010-07-03 Thread Sven Geggus
Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: http://toolserver.org/~stephankn/cuisine/ Hm: OpenLayers.Layer.OSM.Mapnik is not a constructor Aber das liegt wohl daran... http://www.openstreetmap.org/ 403 - Forbidden Gruss Sven -- If you don't make lower-resolution mapping data publicly

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Samstag 03 Juli 2010, 09:40:42 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Ich finde Nics Demo interessant, nehme aber an, dass sie fuer den praktischen Einsatz auf www.openstreetmap.org nicht in Frage kommt, weil sie nicht schnell genug dafuer sein wird (@Sven G.: pfeilschnell ist bei mir was anderes!) Bei

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread godofglow
Schön schnell. Guter Ansatz! Ich würde mir noch wünschen dass wenn ich in ein Textfeld klicke, Ziel oder Start, und dann auf die Karte der jeweilige Marker dort gesetzt wird. Gruß -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-de] OpenCuisineMap

2010-07-03 Thread godofglow
Es wird dringend Zeit das wir die tausende wirkliche gute Overlays auf die Hauptseite schön integrieren: - Openlinkmap - Cuisine - ... -... -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OpenCuisineMap-tp5250792p5250981.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at

Re: [Talk-de] Zusammenarbeit mit der Rureifel Tourismus e.V.

2010-07-03 Thread Martin Simon
Am 3. Juli 2010 10:23 schrieb Lothar Emmerich l.emmer...@freenet.de: Am kommenden Dienstag (6.7.) findet im  Rathaus von Kreuzau (Nordeifel) eine geschlossene Sitzung statt. Themen: - Straffung des vorhandenen Wegenetzes - Bessere Koordinierung und Zusammenarbeit mit den örtlichen

Re: [Talk-de] Zusammenarbeit mit der Rureifel Tourismus e.V.

2010-07-03 Thread Walter Nordmann
hi lothar, eventuell kann man die stadtverwaltung drauf hinweisen, dass sie OHNE Kosten fast alles aus osm bekommen können, wenn die daten erstmal richtig drin sind. also nicht nur wanderverein, sondern alle (SV, Wandervögel, Bürger, lokale firmen,schulen) und was es sonst da gibt. ich glaube

Re: [Talk-de] Bahnhöfe-Proposal

2010-07-03 Thread Florian Gross
Fips Schneider glaubte zu wissen: Florian Gross wrote: M!rtin Koppenhoefer glaubte zu wissen: Am 2. Juli 2010 15:12 schrieb Florian Gross Abgesehen davon würde mich mal interessieren, wie viele Navis einen in längeren Unterführungen noch sicher routen. Hat das schonmal jemand ausprobiert?

Re: [Talk-de] Demo Routingfunktion openstreetmap,org

2010-07-03 Thread Florian Gross
Chris66 glaubte zu wissen: Fahrräder werden anscheinend nicht über path, pedestrian (mit bicycle=yes), und service Roads geroutet. Stimmt. Ich werde bei meinen Teststrecken hartnäckig über Bundes-, Landes- und Kreisstraßen geroutet. unclassified kommt nur, wenn es nicht anders geht. Ich hab

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