On 9/11/2011 7:53 AM, Anthony wrote:
The no thru traffic sign is nonstandard and very jurisdiction
specific. In general there is no letter of the law, as the law
generally does not mention such signs.
You seem to be right (at least in Florida):
On 9/9/2011 7:36 PM, PJ Houser wrote:
In OpenTripPlanner's case
(http://opentripplanner.com/), if it is given a starting destination
within an apartment complex tagged with access=private, the router will
try to snap that location to the nearest permitted road, which in some
cases, may be an
Since I updated to the last tested version, JOSM has been slower to
respond. For example, after I download from the XAPI
relation[network=US:AL] and download all relation members (this will
take a while), zooming to the full extent (hit 1) takes a few seconds,
as does doing anything at this
There's no automated user ranking system I can think of that will
distinguish http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:West_Harrisburg.jpg
from valid mapping.
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On 9/8/2011 3:45 PM, David Earl wrote:
The problem is exacerbated because many of these were done as a single
one way which comes off the roundabout and then turns almost 180 deg.
and rejoins roundabout.
Example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4565106
This is certainly no good, since
(crossposted to talk-us)
On 9/2/2011 3:30 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On 09/01/2011 12:01 AM, Stephen Hope wrote:
On 1 September 2011 11:41, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on which post
office serves the area, and there is no
On 9/8/2011 8:34 AM, Carl Anderson wrote:
In the US if you get records through a FOIA they are public records of
the US Govt.
I don't think so:
http://www.justice.gov/oip/foia_updates/Vol_IV_4/page3.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/od/foia/policies/copyr-f.htm
On 9/8/2011 6:19 PM, PJ Houser wrote:
In Portland, Oregon, we have been tagging certain ways with access
restrictions as access=no and then explicit exceptions, like psv=yes,
foot=yes, bicycle=yes.
In the wiki, for the access key, it states Use the *access*=* key to
describe a general access
I've completed the import outside the Tampa area.
I noticed when working on it that it seems to not include recent
changes. So it's as if someone surveyed the roads for OSM several years ago.
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I've finished with the mainline U.S. Highways and Interstates and the
major grid of state roads (1-2 digit and multiples of 100). You can see
progress (lagged by a bit over a day) here:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/ito_map/main?view=5lat=29lon=-83zoom=8
The one area I'm skipping is
On 9/3/2011 4:38 AM, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
One would also need to add
something along the lines of And I'm reasonably sure that no-one else
has any copyright claims over my contributions that would prevent OSMF
re-distributing them under the relevant licenses.
I hope you realize that
On 9/3/2011 3:39 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
Hi all,
I just stumbled upon this rail yard (?) near Eudora, KS.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.9233lon=-95.0096zoom=14layers=M
Does anyone know what this is? Bing imagery shows most of the tracks
(long) gone. I'd delete them if I knew more
On 9/3/2011 11:23 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
58: have you considered putting an RFC out on cycleway=shared_lane to
get some discussion going around the tag?
Every main lane where bikes are allowed is a shared lane. Presumably the
intent is the indicate where there's a shared lane *marking*, i.e. a
On 9/1/2011 5:39 PM, Mike N wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/469532416/history
The last 2 edit authors have accepted the CTs, but the feature is still
deleted?
Looks like vandalism by rw__.
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On 9/1/2011 6:20 PM, Thomas Davie wrote:
Look at the whole change set, notably, it includes adding this way:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/128541629
Which was (and is) not labeled as the church. Mike had to add the church
back: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1420378996
On 9/1/2011 9:08 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
You have been too fast in adding them and fix the data.
Certainly agree that a building alone has not much value. drawing nice
looking maps is not much value compared to a verified POI
I can't figure out what you're trying to say or who you're
On 9/1/2011 2:16 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/FL_maxspeed.osm.gz
If you have trouble dealing with the extra spaces I can clean it up
tomorrow. Bed time now. But it looks like it is just putting in the
same number of spaces in front of the numbers for some reason.
On 9/1/2011 2:23 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
Hmm I just noticed that it was a little eager about creating relations
so some ways don't have any tags but are only members of a relation
which is tagged. Not sure if this will work with the routes plugin or
not.
It actually works fine. There are ways
On 8/31/2011 3:06 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
- use the license status tools in Potlatch and JOSM when you are editing
anyway to only leave compliant data after an edit (for example by not
moving non-compliant nodes in a way, but by replacing them). This is
naturally assuming that you have tracks and
On 8/31/2011 8:48 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Ed Avis wrote:
Why not do what Wikipedia did and work together with the licence authors
(in
this case Creative Commons and Open Data Commons) to provide an automatic
upgrade clause? Then nothing need be deleted.
I expressly asked this a couple
http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/statistics/gis/roaddata.shtm
This is public domain per Microdecisions, Inc. v. Skinner (though I'm
waiting on a reply from FDOT confirming that they agree).
After checking all current maxspeed tags against the data to ensure
accuracy, I plan to use this as
On 8/31/2011 9:57 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
Anyways that is why I am interested in how you plan to attack it.
I haven't started, but I plan to convert to .osm using gpsbabel and then
use the JOSM 'routes' plugin to color the maxspeed values of the background.
On 8/31/2011 9:57 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
For me it was partly an issue of the data covering a large land area,
then only able to download small chunks from OSM to edit.
For this, a xapi query of relation[network=US:FL] gets all the state
road relations.
On 9/1/2011 1:02 AM, Dale Puch wrote:
If a way with [network=US:FL] is NOT in a relation, will it be returned
by this?
I don't think any ways have this tag.
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On 9/1/2011 1:19 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/31/2011 9:57 PM, Dale Puch wrote:
Anyways that is why I am interested in how you plan to attack it.
I haven't started, but I plan to convert to .osm using gpsbabel and
On 8/24/2011 6:25 PM, Craig Hinners wrote:
FWIW, I agree with all of Jason's suggestions, below, for the
relation-level network tag values. It mirrors my thinking on the
matter exactly.
I disagree with putting alternate and business in the network. These
modifiers are part of the designation,
On 8/24/2011 7:25 PM, Craig Hinners wrote:
I see what you're saying about Arkansas, in that their treatment of US
business routes on signage feels more like a different designation.
On the other hand, Maryland uses a totatally different shield design for
business US routes (basically a
I and some other mappers have noticed that relations are more prone to
breaking than equivalent tags on ways.
(For a simple example, imagine two people simultaneously editing
different parts of a route and each splitting a way, e.g. to add a
maxspeed to a portion. If the route is stored as a
On 8/22/2011 12:05 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Exactly my point. Great Britain is fine with ref=M1 despite there
being an M1 in many other countries - and even in Northern
Ireland, part of the same country.
There are some little-known fields in OSM data called
On 8/21/2011 4:34 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
I really don't understand this logic. I have never run into a case where
JOSM has broken a relation in a way that wasn't obvious to me. Obviously
I don't get around as much as you, Nathan, but can you remind me of a
specific case where a relation breaks over
On 8/22/2011 5:47 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
If there is no overlap, a single network / ref pair will work just
fine. Why wouldn't it? What breaks is multi-values in network / ref
tags. Don't do that. We have better ways to do this; relations.
Relations break. Hence ref tags are there as a
On 8/22/2011 5:53 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
Ways break too, it's just that editors sometimes remember to fix them
during their edit session (e.g. by copying the tags when they
dual-carriage a way). If we get people to fix the relations too, then
they won't break.
So how will we do this? I've
I and some other mappers have noticed that relations are more prone to
breaking than equivalent tags on ways.
(For a simple example, imagine two people simultaneously editing
different parts of a route and each splitting a way, e.g. to add a
maxspeed to a portion. If the route is stored as a
On 8/21/2011 1:57 PM, Henk Hoff wrote:
Putting every single route-label in the ref-tag is not a good idea.
Putting every single route-label in the ref-tag is the way we do things.
If you don't like it, you can always find a different country to
armchair-map (most countries don't have route
On 8/21/2011 2:22 PM, Alan Mintz wrote:
As someone pointed out, once you put them in a relation, the tags on the
ways become duplicative. While this is generally bad database design,
it's also true that many consumers don't deal with relations, and so we
need the duplication and the problems
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On 8/21/2011 4:34 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
I really don't understand this logic. I have never run into a case where
JOSM has broken a relation in a way that wasn't obvious to me. Obviously
I don't get around as much as you,
On 8/20/2011 12:01 PM, Val Kartchner wrote:
What about another field for the network. For instance US:UT:SR for
Utah State Routes then the ref tag will be just the number. I'd like
to put it all into the ref field, but the renderers just don't parse
this field and render the whole string.
On 8/20/2011 6:04 AM, Henk Hoff wrote:
User Nathan Edgars is now changing all State Highway ref-tags in
Arkansas from AR ## to Hwy ##
False. I'm using Hwy x on ways that lacked ref tags.
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On 8/20/2011 12:42 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote:
It doesn't matter if a state like MA uses SR internally we just use that
because we deal with only one states routes. Postal code prefixes for all
routes makes the most sense.
So how do you distinguish California from Canada? Or Delaware
On 8/20/2011 1:29 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote:
From: Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com
On 8/20/2011 12:42 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote:
It doesn't matter if a state like MA uses SR internally we just use that
because we deal with only one states routes. Postal code prefixes for all
On 8/20/2011 1:50 PM, Val Kartchner wrote:
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 13:39 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Meaning? How would you add more detail? US:MA:2? US:FL:ORA:535? UK:GB:M1?
And once we set our standard here in the US, how do we get it adopted
world-wide?
Exactly my point. Great Britain
On 8/20/2011 2:13 PM, Henk Hoff wrote:
The difference with the UK example is that there is a consistency: M1 =
M1. In the case of Arkansas we're talking about AR 26, Hwy 26 and
possibly in the future also 26. All being a ref for the same State
Highway. That is the problem.
I agree with this,
On 8/20/2011 2:41 PM, Toby Murray wrote:
I still see a lot of messages coming through about a network tag. This
tag is already used on route relations so I'm not sure why it is still
being discussed. The ref=* tag on ways is primarily just duplicating
data from the relation and tagging for the
On 8/20/2011 2:56 PM, Phil! Gold wrote:
* Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com [2011-08-20 14:24 -0400]:
I agree with this, and will abide by any reasonable consistent convention.
The wiki has long recommended using the two-letter state abbreviation, a
space, and the number. Is there any
On 8/20/2011 3:29 PM, Val Kartchner wrote:
Because some states officially designate the road as SR-26, for
instance.
Not to mention states like Texas, which have, for example:
State Highway (SH) 121
Loop 12
Spur 408
Beltway 8
Farm to Market Road (FM) 1960
Park Road (PR) 27
and probably a few
I created a table of most of the different state-level route markers
(not counting West Virginia's county routes, which are actually
state-maintained): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/routes
This can be used as a basis for a table of abbreviations.
On 8/13/2011 6:58 PM, Carl Anderson wrote:
They appear to be descriptive names in general use within Oklohoma.
Oknoname reservoirs are referenced in these, so the names are at least
in use.
[snip]
Interesting. Yes, the names do appear to have become used. I wonder if
the bureaucrat
This will require objective criteria for grading a route. Does SRTS
ignore complications, such as badly-designed bike lanes and especially
sidepaths decreasing safety, and kids choosing the sidewalk over even
well-designed bike lanes? How is safety of crossing a street determined?
How about
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6601
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6667
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On 8/8/2011 2:17 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6601
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6667
Now that this one has been cleared up,
No it hasn't. It's possible for an individual mapper to set additional
values (assuming they find
On 8/5/2011 7:31 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/8/5 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
On 8/5/2011 5:31 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/54459361
What is that symbol that appears along the way?
Never mind - I hadn't noticed that the nodes were tagged
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/54459361
What is that symbol that appears along the way?
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On 8/5/2011 5:31 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/54459361
What is that symbol that appears along the way?
Never mind - I hadn't noticed that the nodes were tagged barrier=lift_gate.
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On 8/4/2011 7:06 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
Here is another, somewhat related, question. Fort Collins CO is
represented by two separate relations: 112524 and 253754, neither of
which matches the 2008 TIGER data that they claim to be derived from,
although 253754 is a much closer match. What is
On 8/2/2011 7:05 AM, kenneth gonsalves wrote:
hi,
how would I get all POIs within a specific radius (in metres) from a
specific point by querying the osm db?
If a square rather than a circle is fine, try XAPI:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi .
Is there any way to tag a bunch of 'errors' as false positives in one
action? I ask because there are a number of motorways without ref such
as
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=13lat=35.15338lon=-89.92892layers=B00Tch=0%2C90show_ign=0show_tmpign=0
that shouldn't have refs.
I'll leave it for a few days so others can see it in all its glory :)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31408390
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31408400
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On 7/29/2011 10:52 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll leave it for a few days so others can see it in all its glory :)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31408390
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31408400
Let's
Can we all agree that we don't always want to use the complete official name?
For example:
*Martin Andersen Beachline Expressway is always called the Beachline
Expressway except on small ceremonial signs
*Franklin D. Roosevelt East River Drive: generally known as FDR Drive on
signs and in speech
Colin Smale wrote:
On 28/07/2011 09:33, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
So what's the correct name of the bridge? Does the highway department set
the standard, and so both saints are abbreviated? Or do we go with what
the
cities call themselves and use Saint Paul-East St. Paul Bridge?
I wonder
Colin Smale wrote:
I assume all the variations would be easily understood anyway so it
probably doesn't matter that much. Not worth a protracted debate in any
case... In this case it might make sense to opt for the variant with the
least possiblity of misunderstanding, so Parkway. If
Colin Smale wrote:
It's still the same road, even in the face of variations in the
spelling. I can't for the life of me think of a reason for worrying
about whether it's Pkwy or Parkway, as both are easily understood to be
equivalent. There will only be one official spelling (cf. your
Roland Olbricht wrote:
It looks like you're missing the expand ways step. For example, a query
like this:
Thank you for reporting this. It should be fixed now. Do I understand it
right, this does not apply to relations?
The old XAPI did this for relations too, but the JXAPI doesn't. I
Richard Weait wrote:
The License Working Group takes the position that it is now
appropriate to begin reconciling the data touched by users who have
explicitly declined CT/ODbL. LWG feels that those users who have not
responded should have a grace period of another week or two. You can
Many toll plazas now have high-speed electronic toll lanes. Tagging
seems haphazard. As I see it, the choices are:
*What gets tagged as motorway vs. motorway_link?
*What gets the name, ref, and relation membership?
Note that some plazas have the cash lanes marked like an exit:
Bugzilla from j...@kub.cz wrote:
I think there is a but in Mapnik. Look at the:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.023336lon=12.097374zoom=18layers=M
the construction site (northern part of the Steinere Brucke is UNDER
the river even though it has layer=1
Does highway=construction
On 7/18/2011 3:38 AM, Thomas Davie wrote:
On 18 Jul 2011, at 08:33, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Bugzilla from j...@kub.cz wrote:
I think there is a but in Mapnik. Look at the:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.023336lon=12.097374zoom=18layers=M
the construction site (northern part
Sarah Hoffmann wrote:
With orphaned I mean relations that have no members and are not
member of any other relation. Some are completely empty but most
still have some tags. I have created a list of the relations sorted
by last editing user here:
http://osm.lonvia.de/stuff/orphans.html
On 7/16/2011 4:04 PM, Val Kartchner wrote:
Hello,
I've been mapping Scofield Reservoir in Utah. I've also been aligning
roads with satellite images. SR-96 has partially disappeared after my
edit. It was there before.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.78855lon=-111.12483zoom=17layers=M
The MassGIS import included a condition tag:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9602415
Presumably this is something in their data, but what use is it to us?
There's no definition of what 'intolerable' means, and no way to know
what value to use if the road is repaved.
On 7/15/2011 8:15 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com writes:
The MassGIS import included a condition tag:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/9602415
Presumably this is something in their data, but what use is it to us?
There's no definition of what 'intolerable'
On 7/15/2011 9:13 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
I would say that if you know a road has been repaved, you might set it
to 'good' or whatever the appropriate value is.
This has pointers to the mass spec, I think:
http://www.mass.gov/mgis/eotroads.htm
According to the linked PDF, the field measures
Steve Coast wrote:
Personally I'm very libertarian and would otherwise support using
pseudonyms. But sadly when it reaches the limit case where essentially
every troll is a pseudonym it's hard to justify it anymore.
I'm confused. You say that things have gotten to where people are being
On 7/13/2011 2:47 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
Has anyone looked at the NOAA Composite Shoreline? It seems to have much
better accuracy (as in orders of magnitude better) than the PGS
shoreline that was imported, at least for the small portion I checked in
Virginia. Unless there are better sources, I'll
Steve Coast wrote:
Would you want to be part of a community which includes people explicitly
working to disrupt it, trolling it and breaking data?
No, I don't like breaking data. That's why I oppose the license change.
Steve Coast wrote:
We can block the 'main' people. Then you have to
On 7/8/2011 10:05 AM, Nakor Osm wrote:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
So what's the point?
Any halfway-decent router will take the obvious route.
Even if a router doesn't do that, it should be clear to someone
On 7/8/2011 12:15 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a better example of the problem:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1591319/history
North Elk Vale has been split into three ways with four relations on each
side of
I've come across a fair number of what I call obvious turn restrictions.
Here's an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1566983
The only thing being prevented by this is turning right onto Shelbyville
Road from the motorway_link. But there's a cutoff to the southeast that
you
Josh Doe wrote:
Has anyone considered creating Featured mapping of the week, similar to
Best of OSM [1]?
[1]: http://bestofosm.org/
Landuse data from the US Geological Survey for the whole state of Georgia
has been imported. Hah! It's low resolution, off in many places (most
obvious next
On 6/10/2011 5:31 PM, James Umbanhowar wrote:
The state of North Carolina has released 6 inch resolution orthoimagery for
the entire state that was taken during leaf off time in 2010. These are great
quality for all types of mapping. The information about the service is at:
I've started using forward/backward roles rather than
north/south/east/west on relations for state highways, due to JOSM's
relation editor supporting sorting by them and Nakor's tool (which was
already less convenient, given that you had to upload to OSM and get the
relation number) being
On 6/29/2011 2:49 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:
My personal preference is to use directional roles so that they match
what is written on signage. It also avoids the inevitable which way is
forward and which is backward question.
How would you suggest ensuring that relations are and remain complete?
On 6/29/2011 2:49 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:
It also avoids the inevitable which way is
forward and which is backward question.
Forward is the direction of the way. If a way carries both directions of
the route, it gets no role (as with directional roles).
On 6/29/2011 3:28 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/29/2011 2:49 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:
It also avoids the inevitable which way is
forward and which is backward question
On 6/29/2011 3:47 PM, Toby Murray wrote:
For bike/bus routes that makes sense since they may go against the
directionality of the way. For highway routes this doesn't seem to
make sense and as Josh pointed out is just duplicating oneway
information whereas the signed direction of the highway
On 6/29/2011 4:50 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
I've started using forward/backward roles rather than north/south/east/west
on relations for state highways, due to JOSM's relation editor supporting
sorting by them and
On 6/29/2011 5:03 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
FWIW, and you should absolutely not listen to me because I'm a long way away
and it's up to you guys to sort yourselves out... but I'd create a separate
relation for each direction (i.e. one northbound relation, one southbound
relation) and not
Ian Dees wrote:
I just started it again with much fresher data.
Thanks - looks good.
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On 6/2/2011 3:17 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
To this end, I've been systematically going through trunks in
the US and adding lanes=* tags. This is of course useful even if nothing
is done rendering-wise.
Thanks to PeterIto, we can see the fruits of this:
http://www.itoworld.com/product/data
Andrew-2 wrote:
It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t beginners’ level
material any more and soon won’t be available at all.
First I've heard of this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Aerial_Imagery
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On 25 June 2011 14:56, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
Andrew-2 wrote:
It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t beginners’ level
material any more and soon won’t be available at all.
First I've heard of this:
On 6/25/2011 10:05 AM, Grant Slater wrote:
On 25 June 2011 15:00, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/25/2011 9:59 AM, Grant Slater wrote:
On 25 June 2011 14:56, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.comwrote:
Andrew-2 wrote:
It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t
Shaun McDonald wrote:
In this case it looks as though the user has been moving the bus stop and
then hitting the save button multiple times. (Potlatch2 will not
automatically save and requires the user to choose when to save).
I suspect he was seeing if and how it renders. Naughty :)
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In some countries (ie Germany, Switzerland) bicycle=designated has the
implication that the way has to be used by bicycles (in Germany it's
slightly more complicated), I assume that's not the case in the states.
Depends on the state (and sometimes the city):
On 6/21/2011 12:49 AM, SteveC wrote:
I only said +1 for a start,
Which means I agree with the quoted post.
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Steve Coast wrote:
On 6/18/2011 12:54 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:
Erik Johansson writes:
The Troll word is used so often around in this community that it's
hard to speak about courtesy.
That's because SteveC uses it on people who don't agree with him.
Can you point to an example
Steve Bennett-3 wrote:
Hi Aevar,
Out of curiosity, how do you derive stuff from a CC-BY-SA source
without making a note of the source? I mean, the -BY- part means you
have to attribute the source. So presumably you weren't in compliance
with their licence anyway...
Here's one
JohnSmitty wrote:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2501/sancturymap.png
Seems to look like an OSM map to me, I don't have access to all
credits, so no idea if it was credited or not..
I'm pretty sure that's Google Maps in Lower Manhattan (completely sure about
the location).
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