Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls I also didn't see any consultation on this topic. Just another fait accompli. The pull request and automatic mail to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
Whoops - resending to the right talk@ list From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote: From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls http://lists.osm.org/pipermail/talk/2013-July/067499.html (in reply to Andrew Errington) Okay, so you even have to read all threads, even if you don't find them insteresting anymore... My

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote: From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk vs motorway for rural Interstates with grade crossings

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Shawn K. Quinn [mailto:skqu...@rushpost.com] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [Talk-us] Trunk vs motorway for rural Interstates with grade crossings As an example of what I am referring to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/145137749/history I noticed that

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
Neither of those is public domain. I know for individuals there can be issues releasing data into the public domain, but if a government's lawyers feel their data is public domain, I generally just take them at their word. If the data is public domain then a simple statement that the data is

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
Of Josh Doe Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:59 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Ian Dees; Elliott Plack; Imports US; OSM US Talk List Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Neither of those is public

[Talk-ca] Kelowna Open Data

2013-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
I don't know how this slipped under my radar, but Kelowna BC has open data, licensed under the PDDL. I see that they have 2012 aerial photos, which I'll work on hosting, although I might need to upgrade my server first. What's more interesting is they have some address data. If there is a local

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis There are some clear downsides to our current business model for example our main brand is not exposed as much as if we were running 4square, MapQuest Open etc., and on the other hand

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence - Canada

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Government Licence - Canada [I guess Bernie's original subject of ‘G8 leaders sign open data charter of principles’ might've made this important announcement sink without trace.] Bernie Connors wrote: Is there

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Elevation / SRTM data

2013-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
It’s very important to remember that when the law and license talks about a database, they are not using the same definition as in IT or CS. I imagine you can have a database that doesn’t involve computers at all. A database could be flat files, XML, binary files, or I’m sure other forms.

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au

2013-07-07 Thread Paul Norman
From: Nyall Dawson [mailto:nyall.daw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 4:27 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au Hi all, I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the entire VicMap dataset was released on

Re: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve

2013-06-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Elwell [mailto:andrew.elw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:43 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve Can someone point me to guidelines for where the .au distinction between the two lies? I'm trying to map piney lakes (see

Re: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve

2013-06-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:47 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve Paul Norman wrote: It's important to remember that leisure=park doesn't apply to all parks. I'm guessing

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding? On 6/21/13 9:39 PM, Mike N wrote: On 6/21/2013 1:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: Surveying postal addresses by opening mailboxes (illegal) or knocking on doors doesn't seem feasible.

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Norman
probably need to have a bigger look at cleaning up California landuse imports, there is some weird and wrong stuff there, but that's a wider discussion that doesn't need to stop us from removing the clearly wrong stuff. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 3:29

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bryce Nesbitt [mailto:bry...@obviously.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:56 AM To: Russell Deffner Cc: 'Murry McEntire'; 'Paul Norman'; 'hot'; 'OSM US Talk' Subject: Re: [HOT] [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update natural=wood is the obvious way to me. It's what I use here in Ottawa, Canada. On 14/06

[Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot of landuse=residential imported from FMMP which is clearly wrong. The landuse=residential covers entire cities, including commercial, industrial, retail, parks, schools, golf courses, airports, and pretty much anything within city

Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments

2013-06-02 Thread Paul Norman
We lost track of this case when Richard Weait stepped down, but I placed a 0-hour block about the complaints and pointing out that changeset comments are helpful. The 0-hour block has expired so Cam4rd98 has read it, but have they stopped the behavior that was the problem? I don’t have the

Re: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:22 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs my feeling is that if there's a named town then including a much smaller CDP with the same name is quite misleading. i think the same

[Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Norman
. This covers both his NE2 and NE3 accounts. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Mass deletion in shawnee county, ks

2013-05-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 8:45 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; Toby Murray; the Old Topo Depot; Paul Norman Subject: Mass deletion in shawnee county, ks Hi all, I would like some help here. I have spent the past 6 months working

Re: [Talk-ca] Advice on Addressing

2013-05-27 Thread Paul Norman
Individual addresses are always preferable to interpolation lines, interpolation lines are just an approximation so if you have all the addresses in a block you shouldn't also have interpolation lines as the latter duplicates the former. As for how to tag the addresses, if they're buildings

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. From: James Mast

Re: [talk-au] data.sa.gov.au

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
The only issue with CC BY is that some data owners believe that attribution reasonable to the medium is more than the ODbL guarantees which allows notices in a location . where users would be likely to look for it such as a wiki page linked from /copyright or in the case of produced works, a

Re: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. From: James Mast

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-11 Thread Paul Norman
From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests Hello Torsten: Please see our wiki pages at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dforest and

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

2013-05-10 Thread Paul Norman
From: David [mailto:dban...@internode.on.net] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government Further, so much OSM data ends up in a psql database, one column per tag. Believe it or not, psql does not like having column names start with numerals. It

Re: [Talk-ca] New OpenStreetMap web editing option now available, call for funding

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Norman
Chances are good that this is a bug with HTTPS anywhere and Firefox. If you are using that extension with Firefox, disable the OpenStreetMap Wiki ruleset. See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/8841 for the corresponding HTTPS anywhere ruleset bug. From: Stewart Russell

Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import

2013-05-05 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import Hi, If you carefully read the original mail, you will see two download links. Both of those links it says the data is public domain I

[Talk-us] SOTM-US list for room shares

2013-05-05 Thread Paul Norman
I've started a table at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2013#Room_share for SOTM-US room shares. Anyone considering a room share should plan it soon because the Holiday Inn Civic Center special SOTM-US rate requires booking by the 10th. Other hotels don't have a hard

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mike [mailto:mike.cuttl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:36 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata I am however concerned that if more people simply assume that the status quo is there to stay (IDs are stable

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import

2013-05-04 Thread Paul Norman
Thanks for the proposal, I have a few comments From: Matthew Petroff [mailto:openstreet...@mpetroff.net] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:03 PM Subject: [Imports-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import Using QGIS, I assigned approximate street addresses to each building using a parcel map [3]

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: andrzej zaborowski [mailto:balr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 2:08 PM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata I am less concerned about the Wikidata side - if they make a bad judgement then it is their mess to

[Talk-us] SOTM-US Friday pre-sessions

2013-05-03 Thread Paul Norman
I was wondering who the workshops on Friday before SOTM would be of interest to. Advanced mappers? Developers of OSM software? Developers of software using OSM data? I'm trying to figure out what days to fly in/out on. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey

2013-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:58 PM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey Hi Paul Has anybody from the TR community tried to get permission from HGK (with a pointer that the data is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey

2013-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
Clarification on numbers: Assuming every node has been moved, we'd be talking about 26k place or mountain peak nodes I can definitely keep, about 3k I can restore from the existing redactions, and about 3k that I'm not sure about. Now, it's entirely possible a bunch of nodes haven't been

[OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey

2013-04-28 Thread Paul Norman
: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:15 PM To: 'Suha Ulgen' Cc: 'OSM Mikel Maron'; 'Schuyler Erle'; 'Mikel Maron'; 'Kate Chapman' Subject: RE: OSM place name data from Turkey From: Suha Ulgen [mailto:m...@suhaulgen.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:56 PM Subject

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:em...@katpatuka.org] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:41 PM To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source Did you contact Mr Ulgen? Because pnorman could not wait and eagerly started to redact on 18th of April... The conclusion of the

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-28 Thread Paul Norman
If you find another source you could then use that source, it doesn’t permit the use of HGK maps. From: H. Can Unen [mailto:can.u...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:56 AM To: Paul Norman Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source Mr Ulgen did not respond after that. Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
this seems to be insupportable by the license. From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:08 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark) Paul - On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Paul Norman
The example notice for OdBL contents is “Contains information from DATABASE NAME, which is made available here under the Open Database License (ODbL).” This will always be acceptable as it is explicitly stated as meeting the requirements of 4.3. I can’t see any legal justification in the ODbL

Re: [Talk-ca] Question?

2013-04-22 Thread Paul Norman
This is not correct – there are no mandatory tags, and there is no legal reason why a source tag can’t be removed. Incidentally, source tags are perhaps the ones most frequently removed as osm2pgsql drops them by default. If you’re looking at doing an import

Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation Boundaries

2013-04-21 Thread Paul Norman
Are there any reservations on or near the I-5/I-405 between Canada and Bellevue? I can divert on my way to Issaquah to attempt to ground truth some of this. From: Clifford Snow [mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:55 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation Boundaries

2013-04-20 Thread Paul Norman
I can't speak for the US, but tagging of them in BC was set back by people pushing the view that they should be tagged as provinces. There were also issues that someone imported a bunch without geometry or tag cleanup. The fact that they generally cross admin_level=* boundary=administrative

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:can.u...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:42 AM To: Orkut Murat YILMAZ Cc: Paul Norman; d...@osmfoundation.org; talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source Hello, HGK prohibits every action besides personal use of the purchased maps, so using HGK data

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Suha Ulgen [mailto:sul...@imagins.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:14 PM To: Paul Norman Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source Paul, HGK is the abbreviation for the Harita Genel Komutanlığı which is the Turkish General Command for Mapping. Do you have any information about what

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:08 PM Subject: [Talk-tr] HGK source In early April I noticed a number of place=village created by Muthukumar (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2250559178) with source=HGK. At the time I wondered

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] DataBC's Open Data - OGL v1.0 and Nanaimo compatibility

2013-04-14 Thread Paul Norman
The current Nanaimo license is not compatible with OSM. In fact, the current Nanaimo license does not permit you to redistribute their data at all! I have some contacts from the Open Data summit and I’ll see if I can make any progress on the license issue. Was there a particular dataset

Re: [Talk-us] Need an OSM dev in PDX to make a custom vector map file

2013-03-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bob Eddings [mailto:eddi...@mac.com] Subject: [Talk-us] Need an OSM dev in PDX to make a custom vector map file I'm working on a local design project and need to meetup with someone in Portland with the tools skill to create a custom vector map of the Portland metro area (minus

Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Darryl Shpak [mailto:dar...@shpak.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca Good morning everyone, So: I am just about to renew this domain for another year. I would like to pass control of the domain over to the Canadian mapping community, to someone who will do something --

[OSM-talk] Imagery talk ideas

2013-03-23 Thread Paul Norman
I might be giving a talk to the local remote sensing industry association (think multi-spectral imagery, LIDAR, etc), but don't have any clear talk ideas and was looking for some. The two ideas I had were - How OSM uses imagery. The imagery part might be too basic for the audience, but the

Re: [OSM-talk] Area tags in Overpass API

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Roland Olbricht [mailto:roland.olbri...@gmx.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Area tags in Overpass API The reason to choose objects with name was that all use cases so far have been variations of the question Where am I?. And without a name or other distinctive tag value, the area has been

Re: [Talk-ca] Copyright in data

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
Thanks for the link. It's good to see a court decision reminding parties that (in Canada) there is no copyright in data. From the court decision: However, there is no principle of property law that would preclude anyone from making use of information displayed in a publicly available paper

Re: [Talk-us] key source:maxspeed

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
It's worth noting that source:maxspeed=sign is the most common value. I looked at the last-touched authors for a couple of the country:region values and for sign and survey and it was my impression that sign and survey had a wider distribution of users using them. From: the Old Topo Depot

Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Roland Olbricht [mailto:roland.olbri...@gmx.de] Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta Dear all, the beta for a popup POI display has got its first round of improvements. See http://overpass.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ for the live demo.

Re: [OSM-talk] EWG policy on including features end users versus mappers

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:38 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] EWG policy on including features end users versus mappers Hi Peter, When you talk about Users, who are you talking about? To me, the users of

Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:34 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta Hi Paul, There was some discussion at the EWG about POI display being targeted at mappers vs. end users.

Re: [Talk-us] Questions about bsupnik's NHD OSM files

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ben Supnik [mailto:bsup...@xsquawkbox.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:52 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: 'Mack Stanley'; OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Questions about bsupnik's NHD OSM files Hi Y'all, I've been out to lunch re: NHD for a while..Paul, a stupid q

Re: [Talk-us] Questions about bsupnik's NHD OSM files

2013-03-12 Thread Paul Norman
With all the address stuff I've completely dropped NHD off my plate. I had been working on a NHD to OSM conversion and had gotten so far as to get a Potlatch2 instance with it as a background layer, see http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-November/009515.html and

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-11 Thread Paul Norman
I'm not exactly following the logic in the code. Could you produce a .osc file result with the changes that it would make? From: Eric Fischer [mailto:e...@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:11 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Cc: Michal Migurski; Alex Barth Subject: [Talk-us] Updating

Re: [Talk-ca] New Bing imagery in Montreal

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
With the new Montreal open data, perhaps they have aerial photography they can release? Or perhaps they already have, but I couldn't find any. If someone can get it, I can host it. From: nicholas ingalls [mailto:nicholas.inga...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:18 AM To: Harald

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Lastly, cadastral data is probably the least exciting type of data for OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Licence de données ouvertes, Montréal

2013-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
It’s good to see more municipalities opening up their data and open data catching on. Seeing more municipalities writing their own licenses isn’t so good. Now, on to the more practical questions needed to use the data. Could you provide a translation of 4.1 and 4.2 of their license? Are

Re: [Talk-us] Park Boundary tagging

2013-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
Both of those relations describe areas. In fact, I believe osm2pgsql uses the exact same code for building type=boundary as type=multipolygon. From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:38 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Park

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-02-28 Thread Paul Norman
The fact that you can’t mix OSM + proprietary data and then distribute it as some kind of “OSM but better” without releasing the proprietary data is a feature of share-alike licenses, not a bug. The public domain argument is a bit of a red herring. If OSM used a PD-like license like PDDL

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags

2013-02-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Allison [mailto:andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase tags Hello: Are the Geobase attribution tags relevant, should I leave them in or strip them out? There's no legal reason why you can't remove the attribution=* tags (or any tag, for that matter).

Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Server Infrastructure

2013-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
A us-only taginfo. Frequently the tag usage distribution varies between regions which is why there local taginfo instances for a few countries (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taginfo/Sites) The taginfo sqlite databases total about 4GB for the planet so this shouldn't take much space, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Comments On New Tile Layer Guideline Process

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Comments On New Tile Layer Guideline Process So... who would like to build such a everything goes map site? I think it is relatively easy. One Openlayers of Leaflet site. http://mapstyle.petschge.de/ is one implementation

Re: [OSM-talk] Interesting cases of vandalism?

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
The problem is that people think that a vote on the wiki pages means that the far more common tag is wrong. I tag my bus stops with highway=bus_stop (as well as operator, ref and shelter/bench information) From: Jo [mailto:winfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:35 PM To:

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
Nothing in that presentation says that Google sourced the data from Wikipedia, just that Wikipedia and Google had the same coordinates, which in this case would be from some official source. The current data on Google also differs from Wikipedia. From: Michael Patrick

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France Hi all, I'm submitting here a question about the legality of keeping French long hiking routes called GR or GRP or PR in OSM. All these routes are very well known, have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
[reordered to place copyright matters together] From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:26 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France Again, you have to understand that

Re: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org Hello Everybody, I wanted to confirm the major reason we only have 4 layers on osm.org, is a resourcing issue, rather than a political issue. Basically, we do not have enough disk,

Re: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM

2013-02-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Brian Cavagnolo [mailto:bcavagn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:29 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM Is parcel data useful to OSM? Parcel data in of itself has not found a use in OSM. Parcel data bounds

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Peter Wendorff [mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:21 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads Am 13.02.2013 14:44, schrieb Hans Schmidt: Concerning tagging: I don’t think that there should be some

[Talk-us] OSM usage in the last election

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Norman
I'm working on a presentation and was wondering if anyone had some examples of use of OSM for maps in the recent US election. I know there were some, but I can't find them ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Takedown notices

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Takedown notices I doubt that it would be wise or legally possible to publish the full text of any takedown requests we have received, and if it is just for UK data protection regulations. I do think it would be a good idea

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ilya Zverev [mailto:zve...@textual.ru] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Hi. Since no one has explained, I'd quote a part from OSMF Board Meeting Minutes: OSMF received C+D letter from someone who trademarked the word “Geocode(TM)” and asks us to

Re: [Talk-us] Import Committee Meeting tonight on Google+

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Norman
Darn - I'm out tonight (and every Tuesday) -Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:56 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Import Committee Meeting tonight on Google+ Hey all, A quick reminder that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice regarding terms from an agency

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Norman
Well any imports would need to go by the imports@ list where hopefully the license would be reviewed if necessary. From: Pekka Sarkola [mailto:pekka.sark...@gispo.fi] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:51 AM To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions.' Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Advice

[OSM-legal-talk] GADM and Bolivia

2013-01-23 Thread Paul Norman
I'm sure we're all overjoyed to have this come up again... Background/refresher: GADM is a global administrative boundary dataset under a non-commercial license. Some people imported data from it into OSM, not realizing (or not caring) that it was incompatible with CC BY-SA, ODbL as well as any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] GADM and Bolivia

2013-01-23 Thread Paul Norman
Whoops - wrong cc. Too tired + autocomplete. Not that there's anything secret, just no need to say anything much if we got permission. Just a random work item from the DWG. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:32 AM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] GADM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark My initial writeup could have been clearer: This RFC _does_ seek to replace the currently recommended line (c) OpenStreetMap contributors linking to http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright with a

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark

2013-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - OSM contributor mark My initial writeup could have been clearer: This RFC _does_ seek to replace the currently recommended line (c) OpenStreetMap contributors linking to http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright with a

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] (sans objet)

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
I see that there is an event in Vancouver and some people from the city will be there. I'd like to compile a list of issues with the Vancouver license beforehand. I know rweait had some as blog posts but I think they're offline. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Pierre Béland

Re: [Talk-us] BC/Washington border

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
to connect town boundaries to them). I'd be interested to know how well that data source matches others for the state boundary, too, though. Paul Norman got me thinking about the BC/Washington State border. Comparing Washington State's border files with TIGER data you'll find discrepancies. I

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] NOAA Imports

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 2013-01-09, at 7:38 PM, Sailor Jerry sailorje...@scmarinetech.com wrote: Looks I like barged straight to the committee boat and now I need to do my 720 turns :-) Here is what I've done so far: 1) Reverted all my previous submissions ( see

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our buildings

2013-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 2013-01-06, at 7:50 PM, Nathan Mixter nmix...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if OSM could do the same thing. Could we buy as a group a program like Feature Analyst, eCognition or Imagine Objective and add buildings that way? We could combine the buildings with any existing address

Re: [Talk-ca] [OpenDataBC] Call for Speakers @ Open Data BC Summit on Feb 19, 2013 Vancouver

2013-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
Resenting to the right address... Sent from my iPad On 2013-01-03, at 12:09 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I'm considering going to this conference and presenting on OSM use of open data. I figure it might be of interest to a few people as data used by us will be used by Wikipedia

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using CC-BY as a source for Openstreetmap

2013-01-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Sims [mailto:a...@softgrow.com] Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Using CC-BY as a source for Openstreetmap Hi, I looked at wiki.openstreetmap.org and couldn't find a straight answer as to wheter CC-BY data sets can be used as a source for Openstreetmap. The South Australian State

Re: [Talk-ca] Osmose, Outil de qualité, maintenant disponible pour le Québec

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Norman
I’ve been looking at a bot to fix the double-space issue with CanVec/Geobase, but no idea when I’ll have the time for it so don’t let that stop anyone else interested from developing one, consulting, etc. Serge’s work in the US with TIGER name expansions might be helpful. Also, just a

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Norman
From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:31 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs? I have been pondering the use of the admin_level key in the USA, and have come to the realization that while values 2, 4, 6

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Werner Hoch [mailto:werner...@gmx.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers That one looks strange to: 3490 OSMF Redaction Account I don't think that the redaction bot actively mapped adresses. I'd expect the redaction bot has mapped zero adresses. In certain scenarios the

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Norman
help clarify guidance moving forward. (my take on the answers are: no (2 weeks minimum), no (that page is a disaster), and no clue.) Thanks, Jeff On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote

[Talk-ca] Toronto-area events in early January

2012-12-24 Thread Paul Norman
I'm going to be in Toronto in the new year and was wondering if any OSM or GIS events, meetings or mappy hours would be taking place. I'll be arriving on the 2nd and leaving on the 7th for Penetang but might be free after that. I'll mainly be spending time with the relatives, but the dates for

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Norman
on it but the person doing so would probably be okay since they didn’t make the K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2) certification. From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:51 AM To: Martin Koppenhöfer Cc: Paul Norman; imports; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Norman
...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 6:51 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: imports; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Imports] [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse Well we can remove the names of the lbcs codes, I left them for now because it is very useful for editing. I am using them

Re: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-15 Thread Paul Norman
of the consultation. From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:05 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; Paul Norman Subject: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse Hi, Paul Norman pointed out that I forgot to mail people about my work on topeka. I have

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