Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS Building Import - process

2012-12-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS Building Import - process Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org writes: Paul - I've added a few comments and questions about changeset size and revert policies on the Import Guidelines Plan Outline wiki pages. Are

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start I'm not sure if this page is actually linked to from anywhere but all account blocks and the reasons they were put in place are viewable by everybody on this page:

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour suggestions?

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Coast [mailto:st...@asklater.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour suggestions? Try to find new audiences, this mailing list is saturated with your target market already. So, try google ads or a banner on osm.org. Work with existing local groups (e.g. the seattle group had no

Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
A couple of initial comments: Has some kind of simplify been run on the data? Although most of the buildings are quite good some of the curved ones are overnoded (e.g. http://took.paulnorman.ca/imports/massgis/noded.png) If your documentation conflicts with the requirements of the import

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
message or a 0-hour block which forces them to log on to osm.org and read it. From: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:56 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Jason Remillard; impo...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
CanVec operates with each user using a dedicated account. Using a dedicated account doesn't mean sharing an account. From: Clifford Snow [mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:37 PM To: nicholas ingalls Cc: OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports]

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group From: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:47 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: impo...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start IMO, the process

Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS building conversion

2012-12-10 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS building conversion On Dec 9, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote: But, in general, I don't think the MassGIS ID's should be included since they are just the center of mass of the

Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS building conversion

2012-12-10 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS building conversion Hi Paul - On Dec 10, 2012, at 6:06 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Any future work with the data after it's imported will have to handle buildings without IDs. I included IDs in two

Re: [Talk-us] Know of a local user group? Update the page!

2012-12-10 Thread Paul Norman
I'd say the wiki is likely the least used of the various channels for local OSM communities. Because as part of the DWG I've had to contact local communities in various ways I've seen (in some kind of rough order resembling popularity) - Mailing lists - OSM.org forums -

Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area

2012-12-07 Thread Paul Norman
Do you know when you’ll be proposing this import to the various lists? From: Pierre Béland [mailto:infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:55 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Validating existing data in Ottawa area Tom For the Québec

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] City of Seattle imports

2012-12-06 Thread Paul Norman
Apologies for the length, but there are quite a few points to address, some of a specific nature and others more general. Because I'm replying to points across several messages and the formatting in this thread has become screwed up I'll be reformatting messages and re-ordering them so that

Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki

2012-12-05 Thread Paul Norman
From: bruno [mailto:br...@anche.no] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki On mer, 2012-12-05 at 05:49 +0100, Roland Olbricht wrote: - use tags or tag keys that have been used quite often http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ What if a new way of tagging something gets approved? The

Re: [Talk-us] tools for analysis of road networks?

2012-12-05 Thread Paul Norman
It's worth noting that the results will be in Mercator meters, not meters. I have OSM loaded into a pgsnapshot db and can run queries on request. Something else is that tags-'highway' in ( 'motorway', 'primary', 'secondary' ) will NOT use indexes on tags. tags @ hstore('highway',

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs Given that the comments received have been generally positive and the concerns raised are addressed I'm going to go ahead and start post- processing the data so I can merge it in as well

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Norman
Ogr will read personal geodatabases with the appropriate drivers so ogr2osm will read them, so if the legal issues can be sorted out there's no problem. From: Steven Johnson [mailto:sejohns...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:04 AM To: Open Street Map Talk-US Subject: Re:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Combining Creative Commons Licensed Data with ODbL and Redistributing

2012-11-28 Thread Paul Norman
We've been using CC BY licensed data in OSM. The only potential issue is that they be satisfied that the attribution is reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing. I would consider that a line saying Hazard Data (C) CC BY foo, Map Data (C) ODbL OpenStreetMap contributors with appropriate

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

2012-11-28 Thread Paul Norman
Actually, the slope is slippery. People have made it about old roads. There are people who have mapped old roads where they have been completely developed over and no trace remains. Mapping the traces of an old rail line isn't historical mapping. If there are currently traces there then it's

Re: [Talk-us] 3 mile limit

2012-11-26 Thread Paul Norman
(subject changed because this isn't really about the CPDs anymore) From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:48 AM To: Paul Norman Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries I'm sort of answering my own question, but the latest TIGER data has

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-11-26 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:00 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs Hi, On 11/26/12 05:51, Paul Norman wrote: There is more detail at http

Re: [Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries

2012-11-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries The census bureau divided the unorganized borough into 11 census areas. These have no legal significance but serve to sub-divided the state into

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-11-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs I have been doing a lot of work on county borders in the lower 48. I got to Alaska and the current state of the data plus the whole unorganized borough thing made me go huh? I'll

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

2012-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Sims [mailto:a...@softgrow.com] Subject: Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines On 26/11/2012 10:38 AM, mick wrote: I'm in two minds about removing 'historical' data. Yes, objects no longer visible on the ground shouldn't be rendered on the map. I've been following this

[Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries

2012-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
I've been cleaning up and converting the Alaska admin boundaries and relations and I've come across two questions where I could use some more local feedback. I'm not finished yet, I still have to go back and fix some mistakes (ugh) and de-duplicate more ways. As no one had touched most of the

Re: [Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries

2012-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Subject: [Talk-us] Alaska CPD boundaries (2) The 3 nautical mile limit (state submerged land limit, traditional territorial sea claims limit) I'm sort of answering my own question, but the latest TIGER data has it at this limit. I'll go ahead

[Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
In Alaska the Boroughs and CPDs are the equivalent of counties. I recently cleaned up much of the Canada/Alaska border and in the process looked at the counties data. I have come to the conclusion that it is better and easier to remove the existing counties data and reimport from TIGER 2012.

Re: [Talk-ca] Alaska / BC border

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:bernie.conn...@snb.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:20 PM To: Bruno Remy; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Alaska / BC border You can get the boundary coordinates from the IBC - International Boundary Commission. I also checked

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mark Gray [mailto:mark-os...@hspf.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US In taginfo, I see there is already some use: 86023 instances of associatedStreet 14921 instances of Street This is still small compared with: 15461897

Re: [OSM-talk] obsolete TIGER-tags

2012-11-20 Thread Paul Norman
Aside from the automatically dropped tags there are: tiger:cfcc tiger:county tiger:name_base tiger:name_direction_suffix tiger:name_direction_prefix tiger:name_type tiger:reviewed tiger:zip_left tiger:zip_right My practice is to drop county if the county relation exists and is

Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US

2012-11-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Feature proposal: proposed expanded address tagging scheme for US Since local conditions vary so widely across the US, having more tags gives mappers more flexibility to tag what they see. How does it give them

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered I'd rather deprecate platform for busses if anything. One of the problems with the bus stop tag, and hoping I don't reopen old arguments, is that due to a mistranslation in the wiki in

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Dan Charrois [mailto:d...@syz.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts Usually, in remote areas of the north that I've dealt with, there is often little else already there than the Landsat lakes. And usually, in a given tile, there is usually just a handful of lakes.

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Tom Taylor [mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts I've just performed my first edits, in our neighbourhood. One thing I noticed was that some of the buildings are duplicates. I assume this is part of what you are talking about when you

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need

2012-11-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: d...@osmfoundation.org [mailto:d...@osmfoundation.org] On Behalf Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:43 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; d...@osmfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need

2012-11-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:45 AM Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; d...@osmfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Planet dumps only

[OSM-talk] Redaction requests - the information I need

2012-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
The DWG periodically receives request to redact content from the database. As the person generally responsible for running those redactions, I thought I'd share some detail on what information I need to redact something. This is not going to cover the legal reasons to redact something. Those are

Re: [Talk-ca] Import Canvec : micro-tâches / Canvec imports micro-tasking

2012-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
@openstreetmap.org Cc: Paul Norman; Nicolas Gariépy Subject: Import Canvec : micro-tâches / Canvec imports micro-tasking Data import is essential to cover all of Canada, But it is complex to import Canvec files in areas were data already exist. Both unexperienced and experienced people may make errors. Import

[Talk-ca] BC Resource Roads

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
I was importing some CanVec in northern BC and came across a resource road on bing, which I also added, but I realized I wasn't positive on the best tagging. A typical example is http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.395lon=-122.074zoom=16 These roads exist for forestry and oil and gas use. In

Re: [Talk-ca] New Subdivisions

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
From: Steve Roy [mailto:st...@ssni.ca] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 2:58 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] New Subdivisions What is the best was of adding a new subdivision like this one east of Kelowna? I've only used Potlatch.

[Talk-ca] CanVec bug - splitting of long riverbank ways?

2012-11-12 Thread Paul Norman
I appear to of found a CanVec 10 bug in 094P13.0.osm There is a waterway=riverbank way (Dilly Creek) that is split in two at 59.7728641, -121.9806992. One way is 2k nodes, the other is 457 nodes. Ideally this would be split in two to form two separate areas. An alternate solution would be to not

Re: [OSM-talk] Planning to retire OSMI's redaction view

2012-11-11 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 4:53 AM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] Planning to retire OSMI's redaction view Hi, I'm planning to retire OSMI's redaction view at the end of the month (unless I hear widespread protest).

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Tobias Knerr [mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:14 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL On 30.10.2012 13:30, Michael Collinson wrote: I propose that we base a re-write on:

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations

2012-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Matthias Meißer [mailto:dig...@arcor.de] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:51 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations Hi US community, 4. *Further Imagery* Is there other or better imagery than Bing for certain areas? How can we

Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)

2012-10-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:18 PM To: Richard Weait Cc: Serge Wroclawski; d...@osmfoundation.org; Ian Dees; talk- u...@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s) It's hard to come up with guidelines

Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:22 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring I see that Canada is pretty good at the admin2 (Country) level, and the admin4 level (Regions) except for a few islands in the Hudson and James

Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:22 PM To: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Suivi OSM / OSM Monitoring On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I don't know how it works in the rest of the country, but in Alberta, once

Re: [Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Michal Migurski [mailto:m...@teczno.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:04 AM To: OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams On Oct 28, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Paul Norman wrote: From: Michal Migurski [mailto:m...@teczno.com] Subject: Re

Re: [Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Michal Migurski [mailto:m...@teczno.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:03 AM, Michal Migurski wrote: Do you have any sample NHD extracts that might be usable for a test drive? All of NHD can be found at on the USGS FTP site,

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] What to do with unnamed NHD streams

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jaakko Helleranta.com [mailto:jaa...@helleranta.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:52 AM To: Paul Norman Subject: Re: [Imports] What to do with unnamed NHD streams Hi Paul, Where can I get my hands on this data / its documentation? I'm actually most interested about

Re: [Talk-us] NHD imports

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Norman
This is only a partial reply - I should have more detail this afternoon when I have more time. From: Ben Supnik [mailto:bsup...@xsquawkbox.net] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] NHD imports 2. The conversion required running a non-GUI tool, which meant having command line skills, etc. This is

Re: [Talk-us] NHD imports

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Nathan Mixter [mailto:nmix...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:39 PM To: talk-us Subject: Re: [Talk-us] NHD imports In June, user Bsupnik converted the entire NHD dataset into OSM format. The files are available at http://bsupnik.dev.openstreetmap.org/NHD. He mentioned

[Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Norman
Background: I'm working on converting NHD to .osm format NHD is an extremely large data set. It's about 25G of zipfiles and all of this converted to .osm would total about 3 TB. This is about 10x-15x times the size of planet.osm. There are three factors that lead to this large size. The third is

Re: [Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams

2012-10-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Michal Migurski [mailto:m...@teczno.com] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:58 PM To: OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] What to do with unnamed NHD streams Does [NHD] all come in shapefile form? The simplification would be a relatively easy (though time-consuming) task for

Re: [talk-au] [Imports] Importing locality names from GeoScience Australia dataset.

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
Hello, If you're considering importing you need to read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines and make sure that you've followed all of the steps before uploading anything else. One of these is talking with the local community, which is why I've cc'ed talk-au@ on this

Re: [Talk-ca] Limites administratives, municipalités, MRC et régions du Québec

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
Just a reminder, if you’re proposing to import the admin boundaries, you need to follow the steps in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines, which includes not just talk-ca@ but the imports@ mailing list. My recollection is that boundaries for statscan purposes sometimes differ

Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports

2012-10-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:19 PM To: OSM US Talk List Subject: Re: [Talk-us] NHD Imports I would like to have every stream in the U.S. available as a .osm file. So, say, I am running along some road or railroad, and I see a stream that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-us] press from SOTM US

2012-10-24 Thread Paul Norman
From: andrzej zaborowski [mailto:balr...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-us] press from SOTM US A related question is whether any agreement like that can be made within the Contributor Terms. With the thread about the Public Domain OSM subset when someone said that the PD

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:53 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL Another interesting question is how easy the algorithm you specify must be. It is clear that the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-us] press from SOTM US

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:25 PM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Cc: talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-us] press from SOTM US Fair point. Still - I would ask what is the purpose of this protection and

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracking Something/Anything in OSM

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Norman
Record a list of objects and monitor the minutely diffs for anything touching them. Additionally, if interested in areas, watch for any nodes created or moved into those areas. Bonus points if you get it watching for deletes. I have given thought to coding something like this - there are a

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard way across edits to tag changesets

2012-10-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:41 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Standard way across edits to tag changesets Le dimanche 21 octobre 2012 22:26:56, Marc a écrit : Hi Thanks for your proposal. I commented

Re: [Talk-us] press from SOTM US

2012-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:59 AM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [Talk-us] press from SOTM US On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: we got some. Carl Frantzen of Talking Points Memo

[Talk-us] Stripping TIGER tags

2012-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
I've been going through my time-lapse photos from the way down to Portland. A large part of what I'm doing is adding tags to the I 5, mainly lit=yes/no since you can't get much else at night. Because I'm editing the tags anyways, I'm stripping off unnecessary or incorrect tiger:* tags. Often this

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jean-Marc Liotier [mailto:j...@liotier.org] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration) Of course, international collaboration requires a common ground and the Internet has

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues

2012-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:04 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Canvec 10 and landcover issues Hi everyone, I've done some OSMInspector debugging of areas around Montreal and I've come across a number of newly imported

Re: [Talk-ko] DAUM as a source

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
violate that law can be put in jail for up to 2 years. 2012/10/19 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: Apologies for the message in English, but if I knew Korean I wouldn't need to send it. The DWG was informed that a Korean mapper (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sanha) had used DAUM

Re: [OSM-ja] osapon imports

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Satoshi IIDA [mailto:nyamp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:59 PM To: OpenStreetMap Japanese talk Cc: d...@osmfoundation.org Subject: Re: [OSM-ja] osapon imports Hi Please let me confirm one point. Is it mandatory to using dedicated account to import? We devided

Re: [Talk-us] Burlington, Vermont road classification

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Guertin [mailto:andrew.guer...@uvm.edu] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Burlington, Vermont road classification On 10/18/2012 05:07 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.edu wrote: Hi, There are two active mappers in the

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Importing CanVec better?

2012-10-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maury Markowitz [mailto:maury.markow...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:28 PM To: impo...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Imports] Importing CanVec better? Newb here, so I hope this is the right place to ask. I also posted on one of the wiki talk pages, but I didn't know if

Re: [OSM-talk] Semi-automated edits - postal code database

2012-10-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:58 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Semi-automated edits - postal code database 2012/10/4 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: And, btw, you should not use the associatedStreet

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2012-09-26

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Norman
From: Dave Hansen [mailto:d...@sr71.net] Subject: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2012-09-26 Does your map cover Mexico/Canada? Yes!! I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario in to the USA. Some areas of North America that are close to the US

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Vladimir Vyskocil [mailto:vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre The larger part of cadastre data is just dumped into the data base never to be touched again by any mapper. That's also wrong, the french

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre to be allowed to use cadastre data we have to add a source key which is long about 40 characters to

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre I think the biggest cost for long tags that are heavily used is really in the planet file size. A bigger planet takes longer to generate, longer to

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre Am 30.09.2012 um 02:04 schrieb Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: in a city where the buildings are joined

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
sept. 2012 02:13 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : Obviously buildings are part of it, but is there a list of what else? Hi, I don't think there is a list. the information that you can find are highway references,street names,city boundaries,cemetery boundaries,buildings,house number

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 08:00 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : sorry this detailled here in section les differents calques wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cadastre_Français/Aspects_techni ques_du_cadastre_en_ligne and here qu est ce qui est reutilisable wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3?

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Remap-a-tron level 2 complete! Suggestions for level 3? Level 4 Tiger unedited roads that are highway residential and have no name. How many of those are there? They

Re: [OSM-talk] Pre-delete-bot

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Tony Morris [mailto:tonymor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:29 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Pre-delete-bot Hello, I am trying to get the OSM data prior to the running of the deletion bot. I am able to access CC-BY-SA licenced data from

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Conclusion: A significant number of cadastre imported buildings consist of multiple ways

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Norman
From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre 2012/9/27 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: Just so there is no misunderstanding: even taking address tagged nodes in to account, the addresses / houses ratio

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:02 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines Tordanik wrote: If you want to address changes performed by scripts/bots, then why don't you just say so

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Olivier Croquette [mailto:m...@ocroquette.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre This is not an example that you only find after a long search; it is a typical cadastre import building.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Norman
My main machine is down at the moment so this isn't as detailed as I'd like, but I have a few thoughts.On Sep 25, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:A propos of the recent contretemps about Cadastre imports and separate accounts (excessive use of French in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Réf.: Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-25 Thread Paul Norman
On Sep 25, 2012, at 01:00 PM, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr wrote: The need to keep these conditions open-ended is a weakness that lets detractors claim that they are arbitrary, but I'm guessing that this is necessary to prevent users gaming the rules with stupid technical loopholes...

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 11:47 PM To: 'OSM' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update Paul Norman wrote: From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:41 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update On vendredi 21 septembre 2012, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Hi again, This is not about one rule. This is

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update who last edited an object! ). Where the import HAS nice unique object identifiers things are a lot easier, but raw vector data like the French import, and I think the Spanish data you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data

2012-09-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Pavel Pisa [mailto:ppisa4li...@pikron.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:01 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] importing ODBl data I (for myself strongly demand) that my former and future change sets can be exported from OSM under CC-BY-SA but I

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
Sending to imports@ and cc'ing talk@ as that's more widely read than the wiki talk pages. From: sly (sylvain letuffe) [mailto:li...@letuffe.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update Or, to make it even clearer, can I commit my change to the wiki without starting an edit

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Vincent de Chateau-Thierry [mailto:v...@laposte.net] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update Hi, Le 19/09/2012 22:55, Richard Weait a écrit : - Cadastre is not an import. Cadastre is an import. Could you do the same thing if there were no Cadastre to import?

Re: [Talk-ca] BC: New Port Mann bridge partly open

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
The surrey2012 should have some more from the south side. I'm thinking about going and driving back and forth a few times with my GPS and my camera set to auto so that I can get all of the exits. Anyone interested in a driving mapping party? Of course I'd get to redo it all in a couple

Re: [Talk-ca] Surrey 2012 imagery

2012-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
I'm getting it from the City of Surrey. If you get imagery under a compatible license I could look at hosting it. City GIS departments generally have imagery but they may be reluctant or unable to release it. Surrey releases their data and imagery under the PDDL

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Norman
From: Christian Quest [mailto:cqu...@openstreetmap.fr] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:11 AM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance 2012/9/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Just to clarify this one point: The

Re: [Talk-us] US-Canada Border between BC and Washington State

2012-09-17 Thread Paul Norman
The survey points are based on IBC data (which they view as PD) and are supposed to be accurate within a few cm and the limits of NAD83 to WGS84 conversion (a few more cm). I've verified a few by the lower mainland with survey and against a few sources of accurate imagery and their data seems

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-ca] US-Canada Border between BC and Washington State

2012-09-17 Thread Paul Norman
with the actual border. See http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.9803 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.9803lon=-121.7579zoom=12layers=M lon=-121.7579zoom=12layers=M Paul Norman wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: The survey points are based on IBC

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal Wording again..

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
If you want to add additional wording you could do so. Your wording must make people aware that the data comes from OpenStreetMap and that it is available under the ODbL. Of course, you can only use the ODbL attribution after the new planet is published and you reload your database. If you

Re: [OSM-talk] Another reversion request (sorry)

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
Yikes. I have some tools that will work on the very large changesets, I'll get around to it tomorrow (heading to bed now). Also, if there's legal problems it needs to be redacted, not just deleted. -Original Message- From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday,

Re: [OSM-talk] Change to ODbL imminent

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Malcolm Herring [mailto:malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Change to ODbL imminent On 11/09/2012 17:16, Richard Weait wrote: About thirty hours later, that newly-generated planet file will be available What news? To quote TomH, a watched planet never dumps.

[Talk-ca] Canada and US Imagery bounds

2012-09-13 Thread Paul Norman
I've gone and updated the imagery bounds and bboxes for both Potlatch 2 and JOSM for the North American imagery sources. JOSM should now only suggest a source if it actually covers the area. Potlatch 2 will still suggest sources even if they don't cover the area because potlatch 2 only supports

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