Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-19 Thread Graham Jones
Hi, That is right - I should have posted something about it to this list too, but I forgot! OSM is one of ~150 organisations that have been accepted onto the programme, along with OSGeo and Mapnik. Between now and 29th March, would be students will choose which of the accepted organisations

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-16 Thread Sajjad Anwar
Hi! I have been in touch with Graham as well, and posted my idea on the GSoC 2010 ideas page. This is just to keep talk list posted. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010#OpenStreetMap_Mashup_generator Please fire your suggestions and comments. Thanks! Regards -- Sajjad

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-16 Thread Emilie Laffray
Hello, I don't want to break enthusiasm from anyone but the deadline was the 12th of March, meaning that we are 4 days behind the deadline. Has anyone contacted Google for an extension? I don't mind seeing great ideas discussed here, on the contrary, but then, we have to keep in mind that they

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-16 Thread Sajjad Anwar
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I don't want to break enthusiasm from anyone but the deadline was the 12th of March, meaning that we are 4 days behind the deadline. Has anyone contacted Google for an extension? I don't mind seeing great

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-16 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I don't want to break enthusiasm from anyone but the deadline was the 12th of March, meaning that we are 4 days behind the deadline. Has anyone contacted Google for an extension? I don't mind seeing great

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sent: 12 March 2010 7:07 AM To: Al Haraka Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: It's completely not the osm way *as I interpret it* and isn't going

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-12 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Al Haraka wrote: I am just curious what this sentence is going to mean in the future, because isn't going to fly sounds slightly dictatorial in my mind. I could be wrong. Tom has no say about what gets into JOSM and what doesn't, so his posting cannot possibly have been dictatorial in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
For one of OSM GSoC'10 projects I would like to suggest unofficial guide for mapping. We all know that there is a little haos in tagging (some says it's good, some says it bad), but so far biggest confusion comes from not how to tag things, but how to tag complex situations or how to even map

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
That is a great idea. What about making video as well, on how to use OSM/JOSM/Potlatch how to get started. Video Screencasts? mike On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.comwrote: For one of OSM GSoC'10 projects I would like to suggest unofficial guide for mapping. We

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 11 Mar 2010 3:42:47 pm jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: That is a great idea. What about making video as well, on how to use OSM/JOSM/Potlatch how to get started. Video Screencasts? actually Gsoc is meant for developing the application as such (as in writing code), not

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 11 Mar 2010 4:02:22 pm you wrote: actually Gsoc is meant for developing the application as such (as in writing code), not working on end user documentation and tools. Not only, I know several projects where user manuals and documentation where created during GSoC. There was one

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
GSoc student pool is a very talented one - it would be good to use them for more critical things. Of course, OSM unlike other projects is basically a collection of tools maintained by various people, so difficult to achieve a consensus. Having one place of knowhow of mapping is quite

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
lets put it in a different perspective : Make the documentation as part of the program! I would like to see for example a help system that is integrated to the wiki, Click on a tag, have it pull up the wiki entry, be able to add new unknown tags or rename them. We could even have an OWL Ontology

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Graham Jones
Hi, I agree that improving documentation would be a really useful contribution to OSM, but Google are quite explicit that this is outside of the scope of GSoC ( http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#doc_proposals ). A project along the lines of 'context

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Description : Integration of the java swoop ontology editor into JOSM. A JOSM ontology plugin. Work : 1. create a live mapping from OSM into RDF , so that the swoop can access the data in OSM without conversion. 2. be able to have the changes in the rdf be reflected back into the OSM. 4.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Graham Jones
Mike, I have not the faintest idea what that means, but it sounds impressive! Please add it to the list, but it would be nice to define some of the terms and abbreviations to help the ignorant like me! Thanks Graham. On 11 March 2010 22:39, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Will to tomorrow, chk out swoop http://www.mindswap.org/2004/SWOOP/ On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@googlemail.com wrote: Mike, I have not the faintest idea what that means, but it sounds impressive! Please add it to the list, but it would be nice to define some

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Karl Guggisberg
Hi, 4. conversion of the wiki into OWL, so that the rules and relations of the OSM are documented formally. see also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Machine-readable_Map_Feature_list/OWL_Semantic_Wiki_and_more http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Machine-readable_Map_Feature_list an

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Tom Hughes
On 11/03/10 22:50, Graham Jones wrote: I have not the faintest idea what that means, but it sounds impressive! Please add it to the list, but it would be nice to define some of the terms and abbreviations to help the ignorant like me! Sounding impressive is not a valid reason to consider

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I know it sounds shocking but you can make you ontology as simple as you want, and you can have as many as you want. There does not need to be only one set of rules, I can defined them for my own little bit of the map and others can use them. the point is that you can define your terms formally

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I think the semantic mediawiki extension would be a great start, another would be integration of the tagwatch into the wiki, definition of data collection from the data set into the wiki (deduction) and validation and generation of new tags (induction) mikw On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Karl

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread Al Haraka
Tom, Sounding impressive is not a valid reason to consider something a good idea... Basically he's suggesting replacing our current freeform tagging with some complicated system of rules and ontologies. But being rude and oversimplifying is valid? As already mentioned, it does not have to be

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: It's completely not the osm way *as I interpret it* and isn't going to fly *as long as I am around*. I think that is going to far, my point here is not to be negative, but to contribute something. I can imagine that people

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-10 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
My GSOC suggestion : Get the potlatch running without any Adobe software, use gnash. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010#Porting_of_Potlatch_to_use_FLOSS_tools_and_viewer Also why does google list OSM as being apache licensed?

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Jones
Ian, Rajan, I am happy to help coordinate things too. Maybe we should see how many volunteers we get, then have an off-line discussion to agree who will do what? Regards Graham. On 6 February 2010 14:30, Rajan Vaish vaish.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I can help Ian, in whatever way I can. Thanks.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Jones
Dane, All offers of help welcome thank you! I have made a start at a wiki page to collate the OSM application to Google Summer of Code, and start to collect project ideas ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2010). Please feel free to add any ideas to that. I haven't been

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-19 Thread Graham Jones
Hi All, Following Rajan's prompt I have made a start on a wiki page to detail OSM's participation in the 2010 Google Summer of Code ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2010). The page includes a draft proposal for OSM to apply to GSoC when the programme starts, but I think

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-12 Thread Rajan Vaish
Thanks Graham, The page looks nice. Though, I have also created this page - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010, where students can start posting their ideas. I think Things to do http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Things_To_Doand Student

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-06 Thread Ian Dees
I would be happy to start setting this up, but I haven't had a lot of time in the last few months to give on following through with the GSoC 2009 year. If someone else is interested, let me know. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Rajan Vaish vaish.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, With GSoC'10 not

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-06 Thread Rajan Vaish
I can help Ian, in whatever way I can. Thanks. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I would be happy to start setting this up, but I haven't had a lot of time in the last few months to give on following through with the GSoC 2009 year. If someone else is

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-06 Thread Dane Springmeyer
I'm interested in helping as well. I've started getting organized to have the Mapnik project participate for the first time: http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/GSOC2010 But to the extent there is cross-over or it is more useful for me to help with a project from the OpenStreetMap side, I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-02-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Graham Jones grahamjones...@googlemail.comwrote: As to whether it is more useful to get Mapnik registered in its own right or not, I am afraid I do not know - I only got involved late on in last year's GSoC so have no experience of the application process -