[OSM-talk] osm traces and tags

2009-06-24 Thread Roman Neumüller
I'm still missing some things under http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/ * a simple search field for tags * being able to change/add tags of own trails after upload * tags are case-sensitive (searching Turkey and turkey is not the same!) Does it 'need' to be case-sensitive? Roman __

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The map key isn't static anymore

2009-06-24 Thread Tom Chance
On Tuesday 23 Jun 2009 23:45:31 Tom Hughes wrote: > The map key is now a HTML table instead of a static PNG image as can > > > be seen on the dev server (click "Map key"): > > > > http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ > > > > (Should be on the main site soon) It's definitely an improvement but I thi

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Error in OSM site when Exporting to Embedded HTML

2009-06-24 Thread Thomas Wood
This is now fixed in http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/16086 2009/6/23 Jonas Krückel : > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason schrieb: >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Ivan Garcia wrote: >> >>> Hi, I realized that when I click in the EXPORT tab of OSM.org and I choose >>> the Embedded HTML radiobox, i

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-vi Vietnam mailing list

2009-06-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-vi Vietnam-specific mapping parties, topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Ivan Garcia for initiating and hosting this forum. The Philippines now has a great map of Manila and recently had a very successful mapping party on nearby Tagaytay so it is gre

Re: [OSM-talk] osm traces and tags

2009-06-24 Thread Roman Neumüller
I'm still missing some things under http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/ * a simple search field for tags * FIXED: being able to change/add tags of own trails after upload - I forgot the "more" link for tracks * tags are case-sensitive (searching Turkey and turkey is not the same!) Does

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:19 AM, wrote: > What do people think?  I know that there are a bazillion amenity tags > already in use but I think that going forward a better organized system > will be worth the effort of implementing it. > I think the whole wiki page needs reorganization. I would sugg

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/06/2009 10:27, Pieren wrote: > I think the whole wiki page needs reorganization. > I would suggest to move the full list of tags into subpages (one for > landuse, one for amenity, etc) and keep on "Map Features" only the top > 5 or 10 most popular tags of each category. > Doing this, the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/06/2009 00:43, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > greg...@arenius.com wrote: >> What do people think? > > I think "why bother". Clearly what we have is chaotic, but any system > you can think of will become chaotic sooner or later with people > (ab)using it to their heart's content, so what'

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 24/6/09, David Earl wrote: > Please don't do that! If you're not sure what category > something comes > under, it's really hard to find if it is on a page > organised by > category. If I want a windmill, say, I can search for > windmill as things > stand without having to know it is i

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Maarten Deen
David Earl wrote: > On 24/06/2009 00:43, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Hi, >> >> greg...@arenius.com wrote: >>> What do people think? >> >> I think "why bother". Clearly what we have is chaotic, but any system >> you can think of will become chaotic sooner or later with people >> (ab)using it to their he

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Ken Guest
A better exercise, I think, would be to create an A4 sized "cheatsheet" of common POIs and how they should generally be tagged - something that people can print out and laminate to either use themselves or distribute at mapping parties that could be used as an aid for when one is out mapping and wa

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Hill
Pieren wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:19 AM, wrote: What do people think?  I know that there are a bazillion amenity tags already in use but I think that going forward a better organized system will be worth the effort of implementing it. I think the whole wiki page

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Ken Guest wrote: > A better exercise, I think, would be to create an A4 sized "cheatsheet" of > common POIs and how they should generally be tagged - something that people > can print out and laminate to either use themselves or distribute at mapping > parties that

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Radomír Černoch
Hi, I quite like the idea. For people, who think about using OSM data in their project, clarity of tag structure might be an important issue. > I think "why bother". Clearly what we have is chaotic, but any system > you can think of will become chaotic sooner or later with people > (ab)using it t

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread David Earl
On 24/06/2009 11:39, Radomír Černoch wrote: > The question is whether to choose "chaos" or "less chaos". I think > it's still a significant difference. Are there any serious reasons > "why not to bother"? Yes, because it means changing all the editors, all the renderers and other consumers and re

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM, David Earl wrote: > Please don't do that! If you're not sure what category something comes > under, it's really hard to find if it is on a page organised by > category. If I want a windmill, say, I can search for windmill as things > stand without having to know it

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren Pieren wrote: > I think the whole wiki page needs to be taken outside and shot. Arguing over the presentation on the wiki isn't really the issue. What the tags are, and how they're documented, are two separate things. But like Ævar says, talk is cheap, and though many of us feel strongly

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Ed Avis
arenius.com> writes: >Death: >*Graveyard >*Crematorium I think there is some difference between a graveyard and a churchyard, so the latter should also be a tag. >Education: >*School >*College >*Library >*University Also need nursery/preschool. -- Ed Avis _

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 24/6/09, Pieren wrote: > When the wiki pages are well structured (and named), you > can use the > search function, type "windmill" and you find the right > page. > I simply cannot imagine how far the Map Features page will > be extended > to list all possible amenities, sports, shops,

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Arguing over the presentation on the wiki isn't really the issue. What the > tags are, and how they're documented, are two separate things. But like Ævar > says, talk is cheap, and though many of us feel strongly that MediaWiki is a > rub

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren wrote: > I'm not talking about the whole wiki, just the "Map Features" page. As was I. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Proposed-Amenity-Reorganization-tp24176224p24183557.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Pieren schrieb: > I would suggest to move the full list of tags into subpages (one for > landuse, one for amenity, etc) and keep on "Map Features" only the top > 5 or 10 most popular tags of each category. > Doing this, the wiki page is much smaller but still gives a good idea > of each category.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:53:27 +0200 (CEST), "Maarten Deen" wrote: > A reason to do better categorizations would be to ease conversion to mobile > (or online) routeplanners, which already have some sort of categorization > in > amenities. Please give examples here. Are you sure there is just ONE w

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Maarten Deen
Pieren wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: >> Arguing over the presentation on the wiki isn't really the issue. What the >> tags are, and how they're documented, are two separate things. But like Ævar >> says, talk is cheap, and though many of us feel strongly that

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Heiko Jacobs
greg...@arenius.com schrieb: > The amenity key is currently used for so many different things that it has > no meaning. Indeed. But that's no problem, because the key "amenity" don't bear some information of an object. You can waive "amenity" and you may only say "school=yes" without loss of info

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Jack Stringer
I have commented on several points that have been raised. >> *Death To start with that is the wrong word to be using. I am not sure what you should use. Imagine saying to the wife 'Just need to go to the funeral to bury dad so I will search OSM, category Death then search for the funeral homes' H

[OSM-talk] [Tag] "Ref" in "link"

2009-06-24 Thread Xav
Hi all, On this page : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link it is implicitly written that the "ref" of a "link" should be the reference of the road from which the link depends. For example, a "motorway_link" to/from the motorway "A 1" will be referenced as "A 1". General

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-tn Tunisia mailing list

2009-06-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-tn Tunisia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Chedli Ghedira for initiating and hosting this forum. Mike For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see http://wiki.openstreetm

[OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread S Knox
Does anyone know why Tim Proegler http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/timproegler/edits has made so many small edits under the name of KMLManager in such a short space of time (1 day as a member)? The recent changes page was at one point full of his changesets. Is this legitimate, or a mistake?

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
http://www.mchme.com/#openstreetmap looks like the software they've used. 1753 changesets in less than 20 minutes. Shaun On 24 Jun 2009, at 17:58, S Knox wrote: Does anyone know why Tim Proegler http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/timproegler/edits has made so many small edits under the name

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Alan Millar
>> A reason to do better categorizations would be to ease conversion to > mobile >> (or online) routeplanners, which already have some sort of >> categorization >> in >> amenities. > > Please give examples here. > Are you sure there is just ONE way to categorize and that not > every second applicat

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Thomas Wood
Can we ban it, the stuff its uploading is completely useless. (single nodes with only note tags and no other useful metadata) 2009/6/24 Shaun McDonald : > http://www.mchme.com/#openstreetmap looks like the software they've used. > 1753 changesets in less than 20 minutes. > Shaun > On 24 Jun 2009,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tag] "Ref" in "link"

2009-06-24 Thread Ben Laenen
Xav wrote: > Hi all, > > On this page : > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_link > it is implicitly written that the "ref" of a "link" should be the reference > of the road from which the link depends. For example, a "motorway_link" > to/from the motorway "A 1" will be refer

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Christoph Böhme
Thomas Wood schrieb: > Can we ban it, the stuff its uploading is completely useless. > (single nodes with only note tags and no other useful metadata) All the nodes I have looked at are for german petrol stations. The script does not seem to check if the station has already been mapped and only

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 Jun 2009, at 18:30, Thomas Wood wrote: Can we ban it, the stuff its uploading is completely useless. (single nodes with only note tags and no other useful metadata) +1 The author of the program obviously has got the wrong idea as to what OSM is about. I have just tried out the pro

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread SLXViper
> > Does anyone know why Tim Proegler > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/timproegler/edits has made so many > > small edits under the name of KMLManager in such a short space of time > > (1 day as a member)? The recent changes page was at one point full of > > his changesets. Is this legitimate

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Tyler
> > Can we ban it, the stuff its uploading is completely useless. (single nodes > with only note tags and no other useful metadata) > I like that idea maybe if created_by == "KMLManager": print "go away, you're being a pest" ___ talk mailing list ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Rolf Bode-Meyer
On 2009-06-24 18:58, S Knox wrote: > Does anyone know why Tim Proegler > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/timproegler/edits has made so many > small edits under the name of KMLManager in such a short space of > time (1 day as a member)? The recent changes page was at one point > full of his change

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
I also sent him a mail and have just received a response saying that he'll remove the feature until the problem is resolved. Shaun On 24 Jun 2009, at 19:59, Rolf Bode-Meyer wrote: > On 2009-06-24 18:58, S Knox wrote: >> Does anyone know why Tim Proegler >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tim

[OSM-talk] JOSM slippy map max_zoom_level workaround

2009-06-24 Thread Beej Jorgensen
Sorry if this has been talked about to death and I didn't notice, but I did search a bit and didn't find the answer. I'm also pretty sure I'm up-to-date on all the code. I have been curious for a long time why JOSM's slippymap plugin seems to decrease the max_zoom_level by 4 every time I run it,

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 08: Talks & Panel debates

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Kugelmann
SteveC schrieb: > So does anyone know if the rest will be put up? > BTW: I don't find any list of the Talks & Panel debates of the SOTM08. For the SOTM07 the list is in the wiki, but not for 08. IIRC it was present on http://www.stateofthemap.org/ but is not available any more due to the '09

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 08: Talks & Panel debates

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 25 Jun 2009, at 01:00, Michael Kugelmann wrote: > SteveC schrieb: >> So does anyone know if the rest will be put up? >> > BTW: I don't find any list of the Talks & Panel debates of the SOTM08. > For the SOTM07 the list is in the wiki, but not for 08. IIRC it was > present on http://www.stateof

[OSM-talk] New media for trailing mapper/driver

2009-06-24 Thread Hiroshi Miura
Hi, There is an interesting report of new trends in Japanese media. I wanna share it. Sorry only japanese... http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0906/23/news039.html It said that many driver, who have camera on board with their car, shared their driving sight video on Niko-Niko Doga, similar

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tag] "Ref" in "link"

2009-06-24 Thread Stephen Hope
What is your suggested ref for links that are an entrance, not an exit? And can you give an example of what you mean by an exit ref? Where I come from, some exits have numbers, but the number is associated with the highway ref, so you'd still need that as well. 2009/6/25 Xav : > Hi all, > > On t

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 08 videos

2009-06-24 Thread SteveC
Gar? On 18 Jun 2009, at 12:00, Andy Allan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM, SteveC wrote: >> Hi >> >> Linked off of stateofthemap.org are the SOTM '08 videos: >> >> http://blog.signal2noise.ie/~eason/sotm08/ >> >> But they're incomplete and super, super, super slow to load. >> >> So