Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Piers vs Docks

By the way, we recently had a discussion on tagging@osm about quay, pier etc. : https://www.mail-archive.com/tagging@openstreetmap.org/msg28507.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] (Warning) Check Email For Your Name

On 07/05/2016 08:48 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: you're the owner of any of these email accounts, your account may have been compromised. I came across suspicions emails that were "supposedly" from these email accounts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job "A joe job is a spamming

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality in rural areas (Was: [Analytics] February 15, 2017 Research Showcase)

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:03:32 -0800 Pine W wrote: > > We find that in Wikipedia (as well as > OpenStreetMap), peer-produced > content about rural areas is of systematically lower quality Node density, adjusted for population density, 2014: https://i.imgur.com/hBNEGNT.png

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

Legal definition vs."duck typing" - there is a bit of both in Openstreetmap tagging... But because "living street" has a precise legal definition in Europe, involved mappers chose not to confuse the issue by using a different one. Then there was the question of differentiating large

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

On 12/10/2016 08:47 PM, john whelan wrote: I just did a search on part of Mozambique and came across more than 500 highway=living_street. I always understood them to be a European concept highway with signs on the street and a very low max speed. I wouldn't have expected to see so many

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Quality

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:30:06 -0500 john whelan wrote: > > In HOT in theory new users work is validated. > In practise its only when a tile is completed > and even then most tiles aren't checked. Thank you... I'm sincerly glad you recognize this issue in HOT contributions:

Re: [OSM-talk] A tool for picking up settlements tagged as a single building?

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:25:35 -0400 john whelan wrote: > > It's something I've noticed in Africa so its probably not putting new > mappers through a month's training first but many villages have been > mapped but tagged as a single building with building=yes. > > They

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 07:48:10 -0700 Clifford Snow wrote: > > a bot running on slack and IRC that picks up new users from the > changeset feed. Sure it would be nice of someone could develop > a similar bot to watch for new users Use the excellent

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

On Sun, 7 May 2017 01:57:54 -0500 Paul Johnson wrote: > I think it's time that we seriously reconsider how stop signs, yield > signs and traffic calming devices are handled in all but the most > simple (all approaches to the affected node apply) cases. [..] I'm > thinking

[OSM-talk] Beach routing

Last week-end I went hiking along the coast from Honfleur to Trouville-sur-Mer. As I wondered what distance I walked, I turned to Openstreetmap routers... And did not find my answer: beaches are not considered as highways. I thought about adding paths to beach sections that I consider walkable...

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach routing

On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:36:49 +0200 Oleksiy Muzalyev <oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > On 8/29/2017 12:50 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > ... > > I fail to imagine a beach that is not walkable. > > ... > > In France, yes. [..] In other parts there are s

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:59:34 +0200 Frederik Ramm wrote: > > "amenity:wikidata=Q123456" on something that is, say, an ice cream > parlour because Q123456 is the generic Wikidata category for ice > cream parlours I thought wikidata tags were for unique objets, which usage I

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map alleys in African cities?

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 21:26:02 + (UTC) Pierre Béland wrote: > > I we follow the Highway Tag Africa wiki page I initiated in 2013, > narrow highways should be evaluaed on the type of traffic possible - > highway= residential in residential areas if at least passable by 4 >

[OSM-talk] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

Active in Senegal and Mali, I have noticed that changesets tagged with tasking-manager HOT projects produce very large numbers of buildings. Those buildings appear to be of very low quality. I wonder: who uses this data ? If it is only necessary to assess that people live there, then a

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Mon, July 2, 2018 2:59 pm, Vao Matua wrote: > When you say "low quality" buildings, do you mean the quality of the > polygon data or are you judging someone's home to be of low value? The tracing of course - mud shacks and posh villas are all equal before Openstreetmap contributors !

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Mon, July 2, 2018 11:55 am, AMEGAYIBO Kokou ELolo wrote: > > The majority of these tasks were created in training workshops on > OpenStreetMap in Bamako, quality control work is done afterwards by the > local community normally. I share your points of view, but for training > workshops it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Mon, July 2, 2018 1:26 pm, Robert Banick wrote: > Many humanitarian groups use buildings as a rough proxy for population Yes, I have had that explanation from multiple sources involved in humanitarian uses of Openstreetmap: from that they can calculate, for example, the impact a a flood. I

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Tue, July 3, 2018 10:46 am, Rupert Allan wrote: > > [..] 'some data being better than no data' [..] Yes but, in that case, landuse combined with density and/or building type attributes do the job more cheaply and with none of the low quality stigma. But, of course, there may be other reasons

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Wed, July 4, 2018 1:47 pm, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Sometimes I myself cannot recognize on a satellite image what kind of > building it is, - a warehouse, a cowshed, a factory, etc., or how many > levels it has got. I have to look at its shadow, surroundings, roof > surface, to make a guess.

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Tue, July 3, 2018 7:20 pm, john whelan wrote: > I think my concern is more about the 'then a miracle occurs' in the > project plan to clean up the buildings. Yes because, among other reasons: - For most people, verifying is not as gratifying as creating - Correcting entirely incorrect

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

On Tue, July 3, 2018 3:56 pm, mohamet lamine Ndiaye wrote: > I am Mohamet Lamine Ndiaye [..] Nangadef, I'm happy to hear from you - it has been a long time ! > [..] I think this is the umpteenth time we talk about it Yes, this is a pet issue of mine - I hope that one day I'll understand why you

Re: [OSM-talk] finding settlements where the highways do connect across the settlement

On Wed, July 4, 2018 6:12 pm, john whelan wrote: > I'm using JOSM and find unconnected highways is useful but in Africa I'm > seeing a number of settlements that have highways entering on both sides > but nothing connecting them which poses problems for routing software. > > Any suggestions ?

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

On Mon, October 8, 2018 1:02 am, Harry Wood wrote: > >> Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: >> If one needs number to report back to donors, then integrate this >> sort of thing with the task manager - and explain to donors how >> erroneous data is sharply negative value >

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

On Mon, October 1, 2018 7:57 am, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > On 01.10.2018 03:28, Nate Smith wrote: >> Last week we released a new version >> of a data quality monitoring tool > > I would like to recommend that you don't use the term "quality > monitoring tool" for this since you're measuring

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

On Mon, October 1, 2018 9:56 am, Nate Smith wrote: > > If you have some ideas on additional quality metrics we could add, that > would be great as this tool is just getting started. I would definitely > like to include more ways we can think about what quality data means > during field mapping.

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality (was: The point on the OSM Response to the DR Congo Nord Kivu Ebola outbreak)

On 12/12/18 2:16 AM, Ralph Aytoun wrote: I am also concerned about the quality of the mapping that is tying up projects because it takes up so much validation time. [..] This perception is (don't take it personally - I answer your message but I'm not singling you out) a symptom of a

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT and the OSMF

In some countries (Mali for example), HOT is by far the institution with the most notoriety related to Openstreetmap - and it is often the only one. There, Openstreetmap appears to be a humanitarian mapping project under supervision and sponsorship of HOT. The confusion is real and the least

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT and the OSMF

On 3/26/19 8:31 PM, john whelan wrote: Apparently I'm the mapper who is the 4th in Mali and currently I do not map for HOT. HOT does not have a monopoly in Mali. Yes - rural Mali in Openstreetmap owes a lot to you. I'm the one who is first on that list (I'm more a urban mapping sort or

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

On 2/25/19 10:37 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one that is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are able to develop and run bots would

Re: [OSM-talk] General OSM Talk

On Mon, March 11, 2019 9:23 am, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I have the impression that something that has been going on quietly, > without much fanfare, is how many mappers now participate in quality > assessment as part of their daily routine. The tool landscape is > scattered - you have the old(er)

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

On 6/10/19 10:02 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 10 Jun 2019, 01:10 by j...@liotier.org: This negotiation belongs to the OSMF. Negotiation? Rather DMCA takedown notice. There is no reason at all for negotiation. Even if the goal is full conformance to strictest interpretation of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

On 6/10/19 5:28 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:47 PM Yves > wrote: I think a small '(c)OSM' for small screen web or app could be suggested as OK, what do you think? Why not revive this dormant proposal for a small attribution logo

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

On 6/10/19 12:10 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: No one should underestimage the amount of pressure the OSM community could put [..] if all active OSM contributors would * cease using Facebook [..] A drop in the ocean. This negotiation belongs to the OSMF.

Re: [OSM-talk] Map of Population Density vs. OpenStreetMap density

On Fri, July 5, 2019 2:40 pm, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > One warning: All global population data sets that exist are rough > estimates with usually significant systematic biases and errors. For > example in Switzerland the data set you used sees high population > density in mountain areas with

Re: [OSM-talk] Mali

On 2019-06-30 19:12, john whelan wrote: > The first major concern is "Working for a mapping project with Apple." the concern here is paid mappers and the quality of their work. To be fair to the Apple-paid guys, one of them did a beautiful job with waterways. I haven't looked at other

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Specific tag for Satellite Dishes

On Mon, July 29, 2019 7:03 am, Enock Seth Nyamador wrote: > I am looking for specific tags for Satellite Dish [1]. I haven't found > anything near so far. May be am missing something, else it doesn't exist > and might be useful to propose and come handy in some cases. Prior discussion about that:

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality and the Openstreetmap value chain

On 5/12/20 2:52 PM, Colin Smale wrote: As you and many others frequently remind us: OSM is first and foremost about the data and not any specific use-case or rendering thereof. Yes - but a data model is not a neutral representation of reality: it is a projection through a use-case, mapping

[OSM-talk] Quality and the Openstreetmap value chain

On 5/12/20 11:42 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I love the fact that we are now 50 messages into discussing, for the second time, a change that would be made ostensibly for the benefit of data consumers, and yet no one has asked any actual data consumers. Yes. Users are the ultimate measure of

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality and the Openstreetmap value chain

On 5/12/20 3:50 PM, Colin Smale wrote: The role I expect of the data consumers is to articulate how they would like to view the data (including what attributes they are expecting), and not to dictate how that data is stored/represented internally. Cartography, geography, statistics etc are

[OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

I just noticed a serie of mspray[numerical suffix] (mspray16 , mspray15 , mspray13 and mspray4 for example) are

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

On 5/22/20 12:48 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: Does possibly look like organized editing. No need to invoke intention — if this was “stealth” that means they are intentionally trying to hide. More likely case is they simply aren’t aware of the guidelines. In the case of individual errant mappers, I

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

On 5/22/20 1:23 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: the "mspray" accounts were blocked in July 2019 for problematic edits and failing to document properly The "problematic edits" part is still current - this changeset of mine for example is mostly about deleting buildings from mspray16:

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

On 5/22/20 4:58 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 22/05/2020 14:45, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 5/22/20 1:23 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: the "mspray" accounts were blocked in July 2019 for problematic edits and failing to document properly The "problematic edits" p

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

(answer cc: to talk...@openstreetmap.org and talk@openstreetmap.org) Thanks for taking care of our feedback. In Senegal and Mali, Openstreetmap has a long history of low quality buildings produced in massive quantities by humanitarian actors. Cleaning up after them is considerable work, which

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

On 5/22/20 10:52 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I just noticed a serie of mspray[numerical suffix] (mspray16 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mspray16>, mspray15 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mspray15>, mspray13 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mspray13> a

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

Considering the reaction - especially strong in the USA, and the fact that I'm a candidate to the Board of the Openstreetmap Foundation, I suppose I have to make a statement of my position. In preamble, I condemn the use of sexual assault metaphor - that has no place anywhere. In understand

Re: [OSM-talk] Please SWITCH to Mailman 3 & hyperkitty

From looking at the Mailman Chef cookbook at https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/mailman, Tom Hughes is the person you should ask. If you have mailman administration experience, maybe you could make it happen. On 12/14/20 7:18 PM, ipswichmapper--- via talk wrote: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Please SWITCH to Mailman 3 & hyperkitty

On 12/14/20 8:13 PM, ipswichmap...@tutanota.com wrote: > A bigger problem is that the UI for list owners is horrid. Ok. What alternative solutions do you propose? From Tom's answer, you might gather that there are higher priorities that absorb administrative resources - so unless you can

Re: [OSM-talk] Maps.me comments and OSM notes [Was: Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?]

Now I understand the occurrence of Maps.me POI simultaneously with a redundant note. This is even worse than I imagined. I searched the Maps.me issues tracker for "is:issue comment note" and found nothing reporting that behaviour. On 11/12/20 6:15 PM, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: Huh. Yes,

[OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

A contributor blankets Bamako with office=government nodes named in all caps - a sad situation, especially considering how much effort he puts into wrongly tagging valid POI (details, in French: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ml/2020-November/000254.html). Changeset comment and

[OSM-legal-talk] Are objects still tainted when they are edited from a better source ?

Continued from a talk@osm thread, as suggested by Mikel Maron. When I use high-resolution imagery to improve areas formerly mapped from low-resolution imagery, I change the source tag on the objects I touch - i.e. from Yahoo low resolution satellite to Microsoft Bing satellite. Since my edit

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] feedback requested

On 12/20/2011 10:11 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: Of particular interest are: - can node positions be cleaned by moving to a new position? While you are at it, I would love to hear about a specific subset of the cases encompassed by this question : the cases where the edit is correlated with a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

On 02/28/2013 05:54 AM, Jake Wasserman wrote: I'm a little confused. The way I interpret your comment, merely storing ODbL and non-ODbL data in the same database triggers share alike. But on the use cases wiki page (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases), Case 4 says: 'It

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

On 05/05/2014 16:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-05-05 14:05 GMT+02:00 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de: *And share-alike only applies to what we collect.* Let me first say that this is a brilliantly clear way to put it. I like this a lot.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

On 05/05/2014 16:47, Frederik Ramm wrote: the use case sketched here went far beyond simply displaying an overlay; this use case was about snapping speed recordings to OSM street data to find out which street the recording was for in the first place, thereby creating a derivative database.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

On 05/05/2014 17:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: no, this was not about overlaying 2 graphical layers but about joining the data into one layer (necessary I guess, in order to perform routing). [..] Usage may be different, but the data is the same: ways with an hypothetical 'speed' attribute

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

On 07/05/2014 08:20, Simon Poole wrote: [..] Does it depend on how the match OSM parking lot id - proprietary parking lot id is done ? In this thread, we have seen a few mentions of the implementation as the ultimate factor in discriminating the resulting database between derivative and

Re: [Talk-bf] [OSM-talk-fr] [Talk-sn] Parcelle=yes

On 05/14/2014 06:12 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Donc, arrondissement/secteur/section/lot/parcelle Ca vient de m'être confirmé par un Burkinabé. ___ Talk-bf mailing list Talk-bf@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bf

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] France télécom - infrastructure télécom

On 01/16/2012 10:47 PM, ndecaris wrote: Les conditions de fourniture de données communiquées par le Pôle LME sont strictement encadrées juridiquement et visent en effet uniquement les collectivités territoriales dans le cadre de l'aménagement numérique du territoire [..] Que ça ne vous

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] France télécom - infrastructure télécom

On 01/16/2012 11:06 PM, Christophe Merlet wrote: On peut aussi avoir un comportement responsable et ne pas localiser les infrastructures sensibles dans OSM. Ce qui est sensible et même strictement confidentiel, c'est l'allocation d'une infrastructure à un client spécifique - c'est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] France télécom - infrastructure télécom

On 01/16/2012 11:37 PM, ndecaris wrote: tout est une affaire de point de vue. j'aurai trouvé responsable de la part de France Télécom de fournir des données qui permettent à chacun de savoir de quel central on dépend et à quelle distance on se situe du DSLAM, et donc quel débit on peut

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Apple, iOS, Google Maps... et OSM ?

On 09/03/2012 10:57, Vincent de Chateau-Thierry wrote: Quelqu'un a-t-il connaissance d'explications d'Apple (ou d'interprétations ailleurs) de l'usage de données aussi anciennes que début 2010 ? Ce point reste étonnant. Dans une grande entreprise et dans ses environs immédiats, la main droite

[OSM-talk-fr] Capitalisation automatique des odonymes francophones hors de France

Si j'en crois http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Robot_de_traitement il semble que la présence d'une majuscule à rue, avenue ou boulevard lorsque ces mots sont en première position d'une étiquette 'name' est l'un des rares sujets de consensus où même les plus prudents s'accordent à accepter

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Capitalisation automatique des odonymes francophones hors de France

On 09/03/2012 15:52, Eric Sibert wrote: Finalement, le wiki comme espace de discussion me paraît une bonne option. Comme le remarque Pieren, ce devrait être une décision locale. Mais faute de locaux visibles à portée de clavier, l'ouverture du sujet sur la page wiki du territoire concerné

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Capitalisation automatique des odonymes francophones hors de France

On 03/09/2012 11:12 PM, PhQ wrote: Et celle la, vous pensez qu'un robot pourra y faire quelque chose ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/24793141 Nan, à moins que l'Allemand n'ait été adopté comme langue officielle de Tahiti. La traduction est Rue d'Uturoa mais ça ressemble plutôt à un

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Capitalisation automatique des odonymes francophones hors de France

On 03/09/2012 08:16 PM, Ab_fab wrote: As-tu pris contact avec l'utilisateur diesher (Burkina Faso) qui a publié un billet récemment ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/diesher/diary/16392 Oui - on a même bien bavardé... Mais pas encore de ce sujet. Il est basé à Munich mais passe régulièrement

[OSM-talk-fr] Routage automobile ultra-rapide sur données OpenStreetMap

Vu dans le flux Twitter d'@openstreetmap... http://map.project-osrm.org Je ne me souviens pas avoir vu un jour un service de routage aussi rapide. D'après les résultats que j'ai obtenu, il est réglé pour générer des routes pour automobiles... Et c'est tout ce que j'en sais vu que le Karlsruher

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Routage automobile ultra-rapide sur données OpenStreetMap

On 03/17/2012 09:27 AM, Matthias Dietrich wrote: le KIT l'évoque dans sa page consacrée au projet de recherche sur le routage rapide : http://algo2.iti.kit.edu/routeplanning.php Bien vu - et de là on trouve le code http://project-osrm.org et la documentation de l'API

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Google Map Maker arrive en France !

On 20/03/2012 00:04, Christian Quest wrote: Il fallait s'y attendre... http://www.google.com/mapmaker?hl=fr Pour ceux à qui prendrait l'envie d'exprimer leur opinion ou d'informer des utilisateurs potentiels sur les conditions de licence de Google, l'article Google Plus de cette annonce est à

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bug de rendu Mapnik pour les area en highway=tertiary

On 23/03/2012 10:32, Pieren wrote: techniquement, rien n'empêche de connecter les voies à un polygone. Si physiquement, la place est sans voie de circulation ni restriction de direction, on devrait la modéliser comme tel. Les routeurs peuvent facilement traiter ce cas en réduisant le polygone

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bug de rendu Mapnik pour les area en highway=tertiary

On 23/03/2012 14:47, Florian LAINEZ wrote: Une highway=pedestrian traverse la place, elle même notée comme une area pedestrian. Cela me semble logique puisque lorsque l'on veut traverser la place, le plus court chemin est de suivre la highway=pedestrian. Donc au delà de l'interprétation du

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Data en Afrique, Mali, Mopti

En parlant de Mali, je suis en discussion avec Thierry Helsens (hydrogéologue à Bamako depuis 2002 et auteur de http://mali.blogs.liberation.fr) au sujet de l'intégration éventuelle dans Openstreetmap des données concernant les points d'eau du Mali (au moins 20k). Je vous tiens au courant de

[OSM-talk-fr] Dénomination des écoles, collèges, lycées etc.

Parcourant la carte, je vois parmi les points dont l'attribut principal est amenity=school, une partie d'entre eux dont le nom est Lycée Bidule et l'autre dont le nom est Bidule. Avec l'attribut school:FR la mention du type d'établissement dans le nom est redondante. Je soupçonne que la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Dénomination des écoles, collèges, lycées etc.

On 29/03/2012 21:37, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Pour ma part, je considère que le tag name=* correspond à la plaque apposée à l'entrée de l'établissement. Si cette plaque porte Lycée Papillon, alors j'étiquette name=Lycée Papillon. Le terrain a raison - ça me plait bien ! Et en prime ça

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Chemin à travers bâtiment

On 05/04/2012 09:38 AM, Pieren wrote: 2012/5/4 Romain MEHUT romain.me...@gmail.com: pendant longtemps, c'était la seule option. covered est arrivé bien plus-tard. Les vieilles habitudes sont difficiles à changer. Je confirme - avant de lire ce fil j'étiquetais encore en tunnel=yes

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Outil d'importation des établissements scolaires

On 05/06/2012 07:06 PM, Emmanuel Dewaele wrote: En ce jour où même les adultes vont à l'école, je vous présente un petit site web qui gère l'importation semi-automatique de la base des établissements scolaires Chouette outil ! J'ai repéré plusieurs établissements manquant dans mon quartier.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Suivi des modifications de cartes via le WEB

On 15/05/2012 11:46, Philippe Verdy wrote: Le 15 mai 2012 11:19, Vincent de Chateau-Thierryv...@laposte.net a écrit : tu peux dans un premier temps copier dans un autre calque les objets que tu as sélectionnés avec le menu Modifier Fusionner la sélection = ils se retrouvent dans ton calque

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Bienvenue à un contributeur vietnamien et nouveau type d'OSMécum

On 15/05/2012 14:39, Quynh Vu Do wrote: Les routes tracées sur Google maps sont souvent inexactes mais cela s'améliore vu que de toute manière Google utilise certainement la base de données d'OSM puisque les données y sont sous licence libre. Pour des raisons de compatibilité de licence,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réseau routier du Cantal : c'est fait

On 28/06/2012 09:44, Nicolas Dumoulin wrote: je fais une pause sur l'utilisation de la souris, j'ai le bras droit en compote. Fais comme moi - utilises la main gauche. Après une bonne grosse tendinite à la main droite il y a dix ans, due à l'abus de souris, je me suis lancé et après deux

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Réseau routier du Cantal : c'est fait

On 29/06/2012 12:19, Pieren wrote: 2012/6/29 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: Fais comme moi - utilises la main gauche. Et quand la main gauche flanche à son tour, passe au pied droit, et ainsi de suite ;-) Sérieusement, l'usage des pieds a un grand potentiel inexploité. Le Vim Clutch par

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nouvel éditeur spécialisé traduction

On 28/11/2012 11:16, Ab_fab wrote: Si on va par exemple en Russie ou en Ukraine, on trouve beaucoup de villes dont la forme française n'est pas renseignée, il suffit d'ouvrir l'objet et d'entrer le nom de la ville en français. On peut le trouver assez facilement par

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nouvel éditeur spécialisé traduction - wikipedia interlink traduction

On 28/11/2012 11:57, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: On mercredi 28 novembre 2012, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Techniquement ça pourrait être automatisé, mais je crois que la validation humaine systématique est souhaitable. La validation est souvent faite en amont chez wikipedia interlink wiki (un

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression des tirets cadratins

On 29/11/2012 11:09, Mikaël Cordon wrote: Je n’ai pas l’habitude de rentrer dans des sujets chauds aussi tôt dans la conversation… Pourquoi se priver d'alimenter une si jolie polémique ? [..] D’autre part, on a souvent entendu à propos de la base OSM qu’elle doit être, d’une part uniforme,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression des tirets cadratins

On 29/11/2012 11:40, Mikaël Cordon wrote: Surtout ce que je voulais soulever, c’est que les caractères ont une signification bien établie ; et qu’il est dommage et risqué quant à en changer le sens localement. Pourquoi ne pas utiliser directement le bon caractère ? Il y a presque vingt ans,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression des tirets cadratins

On 29/11/2012 11:59, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: L'ère de l'ignorance de la diversité linguistique a durablement formaté une génération à choisir l’appauvrissement au nom de la compatibilité, canalisée en cela par les outils qui ont formé nos habitudes. Il est plus que temps de ré-apprendre et de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression des tirets cadratins

On 30/11/2012 10:57, Philippe Verdy wrote: [..] Les tirets simples de l'ASCII ont toujours été ambigus dans leur signification. La liste des signes qu'ils remplacent est impressionnante : * Trait d'union/signe moins : - * Trait d'union conditionnel : - * Trait d'union : - * Trait d'union

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suppression des tirets cadratins

On 30/11/2012 12:32, Christian Quest wrote: Je précise au sujet de l'homogénéité, c'est d'homogénéité des données dont je parle. Pour le rendu, on peut retraiter si l'on veut remplacer ces espace-tiret-espace par le cadratin de son choix bien plus facilement que l'inverse vu la liste

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

On 12/31/2012 11:47 AM, christian Herbé wrote: De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant trop de données ? Non - chaque utilisateur y pioche les données dont il a besoin pour le traitement ou le rendu de son choix... Il a certes l'embarras du choix mais

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

On 12/31/2012 12:50 PM, Jo. wrote: Le 31 décembre 2012 12:45, Pieren pier...@gmail.com mailto:pier...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/12/31 christian Herbé che...@free.fr mailto:che...@free.fr: De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] région de Kidal au nord du Mali

On 01/26/2013 12:15 AM, Christian Quest wrote: Une piste si elle est la route principale a de bonnes raison d'être tagguée en primary, non ? Oui, une route est classifiée en fonction de son importance relative dans le réseau routier local. En Afrique, de nombreuse routes non revêtues ont une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] région de Kidal au nord du Mali

On 27/01/2013 23:33, Pierre Béland wrote: Lorsque l'on retrouve de multiples traces allant en tous sens sans raison évidente, il faut aussi se demander lesquelles de ses traces sont significatives et si on doit tout ajouter à la base OSM. C'est la présence d'un groupe d'habitations à une

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] région de Kidal au nord du Mali

On 28/01/2013 10:07, Jean-François Gaffard wrote: le terme oued est peut-être mal choisi. mais ma question est Dans le nord du Mali la haute-résolution de Bing est visiblement en pleine saison sèche.[..] mais on observe de nombreux lits (mineurs et majeurs) de rivières temporaires. Sont-elles

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Ouverture de la plateforme Open Data des Hauts-de-Seine

On 24/01/2013 20:07, THEVENON Julien wrote: Je ne sais plus si l info est passee sur la liste donc dans le doute : http://www.01net.com/editorial/585129/les-hauts-de-seine-ouvrent-leurs-donnees-publiques/ Je remarque en particulier les sources suivantes qui me semblent directement exploitables

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Ouverture de la plateforme Open Data des Hauts-de-Seine

On 28/01/2013 17:21, Vincent de Chateau-Thierry wrote: De : Jean-Marc Liotier Je remarque en particulier les sources suivantes qui me semblent directement exploitables par OSM : - Gabarits et limitations de poids des ponts (/maxweight/ et /maxheight/) : http://opendata.hauts-de-seine.net/jeu

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] région de Kidal au nord du Mali

On 28/01/2013 19:19, Pierre Béland wrote: Lorsque l'imagerie me permet de déterminer les zones inondables avec une certaine certitude, j'utilises l'attribut flood_prone=yes. Il y a des attributs plus spécifiques. Mais je considère que celui-ci est sufffisant. Je ne connaissais pas cette

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données

Retransmission vers talk-fr... On 01/02/2013 15:55, Abba Asmaou wrote: l'utilisation des images Bing disponibles dans OSM ont un atout pédagogique, j'aimerais donc savoir si ces images ont étés géoréférenceés ou orthorectifiées? Oui, mais pas formidablement bien - suffisamment bien pour

[OSM-talk-fr] Arbres du cadastre vert du CG92 [was: Ouverture de la plateforme Open Data des Hauts-de-Seine]

On 28/01/2013 15:12, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Les arbres du Cadastre Vert (http://opendata.hauts-de-seine.net/jeu-de-donnees/cadastre-vert-les-arbres) à croiser éventuellement avec les arbres d'alignement (http://opendata.hauts-de-seine.net/jeu-de-donnees/arbres-dalignement-sur-la-voirie

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Activations humanitaires, Groupe HOT

On 04/02/2013 14:22, Fred Moine wrote: Apres une discussion avec Jean Guilhem la semaine dernière , j’ai trouvé sont idées géniales de demander au diaspora de cartographier leur pays. Ex du Mali avec la communauté malienne de Montreuil. Et pourquoi pas organiser des Mapping Party dans ces

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Arbres du cadastre vert du CG92 [was: Ouverture de la plateforme Open Data des Hauts-de-Seine]

On 04/02/2013 14:29, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Prochaine tâche : pour chacun de ces jeux de données, créer une page de wiki et y déterminer dans quels étiquettes de natural=tree fourrer les données de chacun des champs offerts par le CG92. Voilà pour la création de la page : http

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Arbres du cadastre vert du CG92 [was: Ouverture de la plateforme Open Data des Hauts-de-Seine]

On 02/04/2013 09:33 PM, Romain MEHUT wrote: Pourrais-tu raccrocher la page à celle-ci http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Potential_Datasources/France ? Fait - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=FR%3APotential_Datasources%2FFrancediff=863493oldid=846293

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