Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

It is a tagging error to tag public footways as access=private. Can you give an example? It seems that I miss something in this case. 2014-07-25 13:52 GMT+02:00 Andy Street a...@street.me.uk: On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:51:24 -0700 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: * Cleaning up path

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

IMHO it is a tagging error as it should be tagged as [highway=footway; foot=permissive] Using yes rather than permissive also seems to be wrong in this case. 2014-07-25 14:21 GMT+02:00 Andy Street a...@street.me.uk: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 13:58:18 +0200 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

:0x862c8d6e158f44f0?hl=en was not helpful as either this image or OSM is outdated (I see no signs here that would indicate access restrictions) 2014-07-25 14:49 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk: On 25/07/2014 13:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: IMHO it is a tagging error as it should

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

Both linked shops are displayed. 2014-07-25 14:59 GMT+02:00 Jóhannes Birgir Jensson j...@betra.is: I was under the impression more shops would be displayed than previously? So far I'm seeing fewer, a notable example being liquor stores that have now vanished from visual. Examples:

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

situation will fail on the second tagging scheme. 2014-07-25 15:02 GMT+02:00 Andy Street a...@street.me.uk: On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:41:44 +0200 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO it is a tagging error as it should be tagged as [highway=footway; foot=permissive] Using yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes (nature_reserve highway=services)

The issue with services seems to be already noticed and fixed - see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/730 2014-07-25 16:30 GMT+02:00 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Hi Good to see updates for the mapnik rendering. Unsure if these two problems are directly linked to

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-16 8:28 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On 2014-08-16 01:48, Andreas Vilén wrote: This continues to be really annoying, and the obvious spam seems to cluster at a few locations, where 10-20 notes can be created with the same information. The maker of this app must be made

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 9:56 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: On 23/08/14 04:43, Russ Nelson wrote: I've checked these using surveys, and the aerial photos are right, and the OSM (actually TIGER) data is bad. Once you've edited a few hundred of these ways, you learn to recognize one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-28 0:08 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: Given that Edward has written code that, as it seems, accurately determines the corresponding wikidata objects for a given OSM entity, I'm not quite clear on what the benefits of statically tagging the references on OSM objects is

Re: [OSM-talk] Own wikipage for every single speed limit??

2014-08-28 12:10 GMT+02:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: Hi, noticed that there is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:maxspeed%3D20redirect=no and a few more speeds - does it make any sense to have such pages around? Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Visually detect missing roads

It would be useful to allow switching between diff, OSM only and google only. Currently in my area results are too confusing to be useful. 2014-09-09 9:11 GMT+02:00 Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: I did announce this on the German list last week. As the load did not cause the server to

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes in the rendering

I opened a ticket: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/934 2014-09-09 23:35 GMT+02:00 Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com: Thanks for fixing it, but there's one problem remaining. There's a quite visible gap in rendering when moving from a highway+railway to a

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed changes to landcover labelling in openstreetmap-carto

Note: also Seoul, Osaka-Kyoto and Kraków are loaded. 2014-09-26 0:35 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Dear all, We are currently working on changes in the rendering of landcover labels in openstreetmap-carto, the rendering that is used for the default map on

Re: [OSM-talk] discussion: inclusion and alcohol

liters per capita may have correlation with tech events are too focused on alcohol - but it is not enough to consider it as a good measurement of this problem. 2014-11-04 15:03 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch: WHO data [1] does not corroborate it. Both countries have

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

Some are appearing (almost all are new, from this year) in Kraków (major city in Poland). 2014-11-15 12:51 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide sense of the word). Simon Am 15.11.2014 02:32, schrieb Bryce Nesbitt:

[OSM-talk] Is there some loop trip founder?

There is some software, better or worse that is able to find routes from point A to point B. But is there any tool capable of finding interesting trips starting in some selected place, that returns to the point of origin after going through some interesting* places using good* ways? * -

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

maybe those should be changed first to a lighter tone? https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1053 proposes to stop rendering barracks (too prominent, landuse=military is already rendered). 2014-11-27 7:26 GMT+01:00 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: On Do, Nov 27, 2014 at

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

only a few of the religious buildings can be concidered landmarks. In my home city it is 1 of 5 Here in the New World, the proportion of significant churches is similarly low in many places. Using Cincinnati, Ohio, and its surrounding county as an example, only 25% of OSM-tagged religious

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

See also https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1176 that proposes adding buildings with historic=castle to major buildings. Currently only buildings with place_of_worship are recognized as major and are rendered with special style (=darker). 2015-01-02 18:17 GMT+01:00

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CLt3l_ZQhKFRH5YmfGzo3VJNLQHtHiZSBva3ldU_jJs/edit?pli=1#gid=1373627312 has only 35 rows. 2015-02-13 8:22 GMT+01:00 Imre Samu pella.s...@gmail.com: There's one more face to iD and mistakes users make: translations. Bad translations cause bad tagging.

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

The bicycle router seems to give same result as car router in my area? Also for me, bicycle routers seem unable to avoid major roads. Terrible compared to http://brouter.de/brouter-web/. PS: Please, send unformatted test to mailing list. 2015-02-17 4:00 GMT+01:00 Jóhannes Birgir Jensson

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

OSM is easy to edit - I think that it is better to avoid false information. OSM is not easy to edit for beginners (iD is a bit better for start, but it is also quite hard) 2015-02-20 7:33 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com: In preparation for a project, I made a concerted effort to

Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

Documenting invalid entries in other database (adding elements only with addr:ref and source:addr) is a bad idea - such entries should not appear in OSM database. Also, there seems to be a project with a similar goal, called BANO (Base d'Adresses Nationale Ouverte). AFAIK it is covering France

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1176 for special redering of elements tagged both as building=* and historic=castle. You may create github issue(s) with additional suggestion(s) for detecting that building is important. 2015-01-04 18:57 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

Note that there was Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto thread before this change was made. IMHO it is much better - on low zoom levels maps is now less cluttered and on high zoom levels POIs are now more visible. 2015-01-04 9:22 GMT+01:00 Andreas Labres

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting various road situations

Thanks, that would work well! 2015-03-16 10:46 GMT+01:00 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: On 14-03-15 17:38, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Thanks for examples! I am still looking for well mapped area with many pedestrian roads, living streets, footways, cycleways... Something like this? https

[OSM-talk] Proposal - automate rendering examples on OSM wiki

Some articles about tags have section rendering. Such entries are frequently incomplete or outdated. It simple for me to generate example of rendering for every single tag used in default map style. It is probably possible to automate upload for wiki. Is somebody interested in using such files on

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.29.0

- special icon for shop=books (#1311) - better rendering for footways/paths/etc under construction (#1317) 2015-03-20 19:41 GMT+01:00 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com: Today version v2.29.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet has been released. Changes include - An entirely new natural=tree

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting various road situations

the ford=yes? It's very common in Africa for example. Cheers, Rafael. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3710302 [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2792108 On 12/03/15 23:32, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: There is a decent chance that in near future I will have time

[OSM-talk] Collecting various road situations

There is a decent chance that in near future I will have time to reimplement road styling in Default Map Style. One of the most important problems in designing this style is that the same rules should work over entire globe, in drastically different locations. It is impossible to make style work

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

while this sounds nice for the green poodle with 6 legs, I'd be interested in real cases where our current schemes should be changed [landuse=farmland; farmland=greenhouse_horticulture] instead of [landuse=greenhouse_horticulture] [landuse=industrial; industrial=salt_pond] instead of

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal - automate rendering examples on OSM wiki

Is there any kind of API enabled for OSM wiki allowing automated uploads of files? 2015-03-20 16:26 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: Some articles about tags have section rendering. Such entries are frequently incomplete or outdated. It simple for me to generate example

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

I think that it may be a good idea to considering deleting fixmes that: - were added by mechanical mass edit - were added to existing objects - are completely useless - are not indicating low quality of data/tags For example set␣better␣denotation is not fitting - it seems that in this case also

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

I think that it may be a good idea to considering automated deleting fixmes that: - were added by mechanical mass edit - were added to existing objects - are completely useless - are not indicating low quality of data/tags For example set␣better␣denotation is not fitting - it seems that in this

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal - automate rendering examples on OSM wiki

at 02:06:06 -0700, Minh Nguyen wrote: On 2015-03-24 04:09, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Is there any kind of API enabled for OSM wiki allowing automated uploads of files? The OSM wiki can transclude images from Wikimedia Commons, which has a process for batch uploading images: https

[OSM-talk] map styles: Default OSM vs Google Maps

Currently I am working on a GSoC project - improvement of styling of roads and paths in openstreetmap-carto, the default OSM map style. I started from researching how other map styles are designed. I would welcome comments and feedback as it would allow to notice my biases. Feedback on general

[OSM-talk] Looking for maps with rendered toll status

I am looking for examples how toll status of roads is displayed on existing maps. I am considering rendering toll status in openstreetmap-carto. But I have no good ideas how it may be done and I failed to find maps displaying this data by using a different style for roads. I found only London

Re: [OSM-talk] iD name suggestion index - asking non-English-speaking mappers to review

On Sat, 16 May 2015 20:07:00 +0200 Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I ask non-English speakers to find anything they are sure it's a noun and not a proper name. name-suggestions.json specifies name suggestions and filter.json specifies what non-names should be filtered. Sklep

Re: [OSM-talk] bicycle=no and cycleway=lane conflicting?

[bicycle=no; cycleway=lane] means that there is a lane for bicycles but cycling is anyway not allowed there. Typically it would be a tagging mistake, usable cycleway lanes should be tagged as [cycleway=lane]. On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:03:42 +0200 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I came across

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

On Thu, 28 May 2015 12:11:32 +0200 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2015-05-28 11:30, Komяpa wrote: How do we cover this use case in OpenStreetMap, with its eager-to-revert-names-in-languages-I-don't-speak users? I'm genuinely curious: How do people in Russia search for places

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:54:39 +1000 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: For example a demolished building .. may have a new building built on the same spot .. with the same outline. Leave the node data in OSM, change the tag building=yes to building=demolished (may not be rendered nor

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-18 2:30 GMT+02:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Retag the middle bit demolished:bridge=yes would be a better solution? Retains all the data. If the bridge were rebuilt then it could simply be retagged back. Features that are gone from world should be also removed from OSM. There are

Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees [was Re: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release]

and I would support such proposal. 2015-08-17 10:58 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: sent from a phone Am 17.08.2015 um 01:30 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: I am not aware about values that should be used in that case. you are saying that landuse

Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees [was Re: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release]

2015-08-16 15:27 GMT+02:00 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: landuse=forest does not imply the area is completely tree covered. Note that in typical usage it means exactly this. Maybe original intention was for that tag was to mean something else - but it is not changing how it is used by most

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

to do this also works but typically it takes more time. 2015-08-17 1:49 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: This issue is tracked as https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1604 2015-08-16 23:42 GMT+02:00 Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com: OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] landcover=trees [was Re: OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release]

I am not aware about values that should be used in that case. 2015-08-16 20:58 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2015-08-16 19:00 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: Note that in typical usage it means exactly this. Maybe original intention

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

This issue is tracked as https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1604 2015-08-16 23:42 GMT+02:00 Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com: OpenStreetMap Carto 2.33.0 has been released. This release focuses on cartographic style improvements, but the release notes also include

Re: [OSM-talk] Marking tight corners

Geometry of road is already providing this information, there is probably no need to duplicate this in tags. On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:11:50 -0500 Subhodip Biswas subhodipbis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I was wondering if there is some tags or is it possible to create some tags that marks

[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the full version

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/3 contains preview of the next version of the proposal for new road style. This time it is focusing on lower zoom levels. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] New road style for Default Map style - pull requested is opened

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1736 - review of the code and comments are welcomed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 02:23:29 -0400 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: What if I was to add the aqueduct which goes past Aqueduct Race Track on Long Island, NY? It is without question there (the name Aqueduct should be a pretty good hint), yet it cannot be seen anywhere. Why not map that?

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:33:11 +1000 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/08/2015 11:24 PM, Ruben Maes wrote: On Thursday 13 August 2015 15:10:14 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:54:39 +1000 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: For example a demolished building .. may

[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style, the full version - high zoom

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35565 contains preview of the next version of the proposal for new road style. This time it is focusing on zoom levels. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:51:13 +0100 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: But the one thing that the current model has got the capability of handling is start and stop dates for any facet of an object from the name of a shop to the evolution of the road and rail system over time. That the

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:01:55 +0200 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: I published new diary entry There is also older entry, primarily about rendering surface tag http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35416 It was not mentioned on this mailing list

[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - real changes are now appearing

Fortunately some changes make sense independently and it is not necessary to submit them in one giant let's change everything PR. At this moment there are three proposed changes extracted from redesigning roads. Comments and feedback is welcomed. Start rendering of minor roads later -

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:07:59 +0100 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: From a UK point of view there nothing wrong with http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.1106/-2.0754 and certainly that is what is needed for any routing system. Yes, this part of map is not bad. I am not entirely sure

[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

I published new diary entry. It includes preview of now differently rendered highway=motorway and highway=trunk, possible changes to rendering railway=rail, proposed change to rendering of minor service tram tracks and more. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35437

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the second version. And thanks for rural test locations!

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:45:06 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: +1, huge arbitrary farmland areas are pointless and hide the actual white spots where there would be something still to map. Main use of landuse is not for marking mapped areas. It may be used for rendering

[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - highway=path is evil

I published diary entry describing current state of a new road style for openstreetmap-carto - see http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35389 For start - I am looking for examples of well mapped rural areas to test rendering. I have multiple examples of cities and towns but

[OSM-talk] Looking for example of well mapped rural area and properly mapped city

I am looking for well mapped rural area. I am working on a new version of roads for Default style. I want to avoid strong bias toward cities and ignoring rural area but at this moment I am lacking test places to see how well potential style works. Places that are not fully mapped are OK but I

[OSM-talk] Looking for well mapped rural area and well mapped town/city

I am looking for well mapped rural area. I located some places but all are either missing major features (like part of landuse) or quality of mapping (especially landuses) is poor. I am interested in places mapped better than my current test locations

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity statistics per city (or region)

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:09:16 +0100 César Martínez Izquierdo wrote: > Thanks to everyone for so many links and ideas. I like the idea of > combining active users + nodes to build the indicator. > Just to be sure I understand the existing approach: do you need to get > the

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity statistics per city (or region)

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:00:49 +0200 César Martínez Izquierdo wrote: > Hi, we are interested on getting some OSM statistics per city. > > The idea is to get a rough idea of the activity of the community on > each city, by counting the number of active users or the number of >

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:15:15 +0200 Simon Poole wrote: > the resp. IP rights without problems. In other words: you would need > to provide downstream attribution for CC-by v3 material included in > OSM. I am pretty sure that it makes using this material impossible and such

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:36:28 -0500 Andrew Guertin wrote: > So the question is, should uses of highway=residential_link be edited > away, should they be left as-is (unless a different highway type is > clearly better), or should the tag be approved and documented? Can

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:44:59 -0600 Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Mateusz Konieczny > <matkoni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:33:57 -0600 > > Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: &g

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:33:57 -0600 Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Mateusz Konieczny > <matkoni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:36:28 -0500 > > Andrew Guertin <andrew.guer...@uvm.edu> wrote: &g

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM Error

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:54:40 -0600 Mike Thompson wrote: > When I start JOSM I get: > === > JOSM tried to access the following resources: > >- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/maps >- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPage >

[OSM-talk] Generating list of interesting places

Is there already some tool that for given area generates list of interesting places (museums, caves, old trees, famous tourism attractions, monuments, etc etc) based on OSM data? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Find missing roads

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 17:16:39 -0600 Martijn van Exel wrote: > Andrew — > > We tried to strike a balance between giving enough hints so that > mappers could figure out where roads are missing, and avoiding > showing too many false positives. This resulted in the sometimes >

[OSM-talk] New road style for the Default map style - the first version

I published diary entry describing current state of a new road style for openstreetmap-carto - see http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35351 It includes preview of style and possible variants of rendering for junction labels, oneway arrows and highway=footway/pedestrian.

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:18:17 -0400 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: But what gives them the right to delete things that other people CAN see and DO want to have in OSM? Because mapping thoroughly destroyed objects that no longer exist (like rail lines where even earthworks are levelled

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:46:58 -0400 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Frederik Ramm writes: On 08/22/2015 11:07 PM, Lester Caine wrote: What we need is a database that already has all the data and simply identify when some small elements of it cease to be current. In OSM

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.34.0 release

This email is also in user diary form at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/35690 with working links. OpenStreetMap Carto 2.34.0 has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take up to 48 hours before all tiles show the new rendering.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.34.0 release

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:53:27 +0100 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Is man_made=bridge meant to be used on ways that represent disused bridges such as railways where all the track has been removed? see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dbridge - man_made=bridge is used to

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=woodchip to surface=woodchips

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:01:19 +0100 Lester Caine wrote: > On > google woodchip produces results ... woodchips does not ... so in my > book surface=woodchips is what is wrong! In my case both results produce plenty of results, woodchips has even more.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=woodchip to surface=woodchips

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:27:33 +0200 Éric Gillet wrote: > In the "Numbers" section, you should correct the second bulletpoint > as it states "amount of surface=dirt" instead of "amount of > surface=woodchips" Done, thanks.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:51:38 +0200 Christoph Hormann <chris_horm...@gmx.de> wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > See > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny > >/surface%3Dsoil_to_surface%3Ddirt > >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:13:26 +0200 moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 01/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > Soil is not dirt. That's why I have used surface=soil myself, and I > > will revert any automated edit of such kind. > > I agree that soil and dirt are

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 00:49:48 +0100 "Dave F." wrote: > On 08/09/2015 00:07, Lester Caine wrote: > > On 07/09/15 23:16, Dave F. wrote: > >> I'm not sure there's been a discussion as you've mostly ignored the > >> basic comment made - it it's deleted in the real world it

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On 7 Sep 2015 15:31:02 - Russ Nelson wrote: > We should map everything that doesn't move, and maybe a few things > that do. And completely destroyed railways are fitting neither category as things that are not existing neither move nor do not move. In addition - there

Re: [OSM-talk] old_name

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:26:59 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Am 08.09.2015 um 13:58 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny > > <matkoni...@gmail.com>: > > > > Historical data should not be added and i

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 12:05:30 +0100 "Dave F." <dave...@madasafish.com> wrote: > On 08/09/2015 07:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 00:49:48 +0100 > > "Dave F." <dave...@madasafish.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> I

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 15:44:16 +0300 Lauri Kytömaa <lkyto...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > that it is constructed as a railway bridge? Is there any difference? > > > > Historical data should not be added and if present - removed. > > If anyo

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:22:01 +0100 "Dave F." <dave...@madasafish.com> wrote: > On 08/09/2015 13:56, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 13:37:47 +0100 > > "Dave F." <dave...@madasafish.com> wrote: > > > >> This is one reas

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:16:17 +0100 Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > On 08/09/15 12:58, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> The historical tag can be used to indicate that the viaduct was > >> > previously used as a railway. It should be used in conj

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 13:37:47 +0100 "Dave F." wrote: > This is one reason I believe linear ways tagged as man_made=bridge > should be rendered: > man_made=bridge > bridge=* > historical=railway Please, see definition of man_made=bridge on the wiki.

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 12:36:26 +0100 Lester Caine wrote: > On 02/09/15 11:30, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > > I always understood that land property was out of scope for OSM. Do > > you know of any osm data which records property ? > > So I should remove all the detail on >

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 11:57:19 +0200 Colin Smale wrote: > Are you suggesting that parcel boundaries have no place in OSM, or > that only verifiable sources should be used? Suppose there was a > suitably licensed source of such boundaries, with authoritative > provenance.

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 08:08:45 -0500 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > Too bad for that guy that he didn't check OpenStreetMap first, > > because there was an abandoned railroad mapped in his back yard. > > Now

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On 7 Sep 2015 15:31:02 - Russ Nelson wrote: > people who reject mapping abandoned railroads Nobody is against mapping abandoned railroads that are existing. But mapping objects that are fully and completely gone is explicitly documented to be unwanted in the same way as

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 01:54:20 -0400 Russ Nelson wrote: > Why do you persist? You can't win, because you're wrong. Please, stop treating it as some zero-sum game. I am not trying to "win". I am trying to ensure that editing of OSM will not be made harder by presence of ways

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 09:33:45 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Am 09.09.2015 um 09:01 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny > > <matkoni...@gmail.com>: > > > > Currently it is done on really limited sca

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:25:18 -0400 Greg Troxel wrote: > > Frederik Ramm writes: > > > But that's how far my "convictions" go - as long as I don't survey > > where Russ draws his abandoned railway lines, we're fine. > > In terms of reaching a detente, I

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

I will not continue to discuss other issues as at this point everybody exchanged opinions and repeating the same makes no sense. But... On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 17:55:07 -0400 Russ Nelson wrote: > and they aren't making more abandoned railroads anymore (Beeching is > dead, and

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:26:40 -0400 Russ Nelson wrote: > Dave F. writes: > > > Don't destroy other people's mapping. Why is this not obvious? > > > > What's obvious is that it's a track. > > May I make a suggestion that I don't really want you to take? If you > really

Re: [OSM-talk] "Enclosing feature" on osm.org broken ?

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 10:39:54 +0200 Marc Gemis wrote: > I recently saw two independent reports [1][2] from people that > complain that the list of "Enclosing Features" is returning a number > of North-African towns for features in The Netherlands. > > An example is when you

Re: [OSM-talk] The wiki pages ... for the mapper? or the render? or both?

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:06:17 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/09/2015 3:36 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: > > On 2015-09-09 05:18, Warin wrote: > >> The some of the wiki pages appear to be written for the renders, > >> while others look to be written for the mappers. This is confusing!

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 23:23:06 -0400 Russ Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com> wrote: > Mateusz Konieczny writes: > > On 7 Sep 2015 15:31:02 - > > Russ Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com> wrote: > > > > > people who reject mapping abandoned railroads > > &g

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