Re: [OSM-talk] Takedown notices

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Takedown notices I doubt that it would be wise or legally possible to publish the full text of any takedown requests we have received, and if it is just for UK data protection regulations. I do think it would be a good idea

Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Peter Wendorff [mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:21 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Display names of crossroads Am 13.02.2013 14:44, schrieb Hans Schmidt: Concerning tagging: I don’t think that there should be some

Re: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org Hello Everybody, I wanted to confirm the major reason we only have 4 layers on osm.org, is a resourcing issue, rather than a political issue. Basically, we do not have enough disk,

Re: [OSM-talk] Comments On New Tile Layer Guideline Process

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Comments On New Tile Layer Guideline Process So... who would like to build such a everything goes map site? I think it is relatively easy. One Openlayers of Leaflet site. http://mapstyle.petschge.de/ is one implementation

Re: [OSM-talk] Interesting cases of vandalism?

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
The problem is that people think that a vote on the wiki pages means that the far more common tag is wrong. I tag my bus stops with highway=bus_stop (as well as operator, ref and shelter/bench information) From: Jo [mailto:winfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:35 PM To:

Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Roland Olbricht [mailto:roland.olbri...@gmx.de] Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta Dear all, the beta for a popup POI display has got its first round of improvements. See http://overpass.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ for the live demo.

Re: [OSM-talk] EWG policy on including features end users versus mappers

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:38 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] EWG policy on including features end users versus mappers Hi Peter, When you talk about Users, who are you talking about? To me, the users of

Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 7:34 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta Hi Paul, There was some discussion at the EWG about POI display being targeted at mappers vs. end users.

Re: [OSM-talk] Area tags in Overpass API

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Roland Olbricht [mailto:roland.olbri...@gmx.de] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Area tags in Overpass API The reason to choose objects with name was that all use cases so far have been variations of the question Where am I?. And without a name or other distinctive tag value, the area has been

[OSM-talk] Imagery talk ideas

2013-03-23 Thread Paul Norman
I might be giving a talk to the local remote sensing industry association (think multi-spectral imagery, LIDAR, etc), but don't have any clear talk ideas and was looking for some. The two ideas I had were - How OSM uses imagery. The imagery part might be too basic for the audience, but the

Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation Boundaries

2013-04-20 Thread Paul Norman
I can't speak for the US, but tagging of them in BC was set back by people pushing the view that they should be tagged as provinces. There were also issues that someone imported a bunch without geometry or tag cleanup. The fact that they generally cross admin_level=* boundary=administrative

Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation Boundaries

2013-04-21 Thread Paul Norman
Are there any reservations on or near the I-5/I-405 between Canada and Bellevue? I can divert on my way to Issaquah to attempt to ground truth some of this. From: Clifford Snow [mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:55 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-24 Thread Paul Norman
The example notice for OdBL contents is “Contains information from DATABASE NAME, which is made available here under the Open Database License (ODbL).” This will always be acceptable as it is explicitly stated as meeting the requirements of 4.3. I can’t see any legal justification in the ODbL

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark)

2013-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
this seems to be insupportable by the license. From: Alex Barth [mailto:a...@mapbox.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:08 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC updated: OSM Attribution Mark (was: contributor mark) Paul - On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Paul

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: andrzej zaborowski [mailto:balr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 2:08 PM To: Frederik Ramm Cc: OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata I am less concerned about the Wikidata side - if they make a bad judgement then it is their mess to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-04 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mike [mailto:mike.cuttl...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:36 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata I am however concerned that if more people simply assume that the status quo is there to stay (IDs are stable

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. From: James Mast

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis There are some clear downsides to our current business model for example our main brand is not exposed as much as if we were running 4square, MapQuest Open etc., and on the other hand

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls I also didn't see any consultation on this topic. Just another fait accompli. The pull request and automatic mail to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
Whoops - resending to the right talk@ list From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote: From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls http://lists.osm.org/pipermail/talk/2013-July/067499.html (in reply to Andrew Errington) Okay, so you even have to read all threads, even if you don't find them insteresting anymore... My

[OSM-talk] Interesting website stuff in the works

2013-07-25 Thread Paul Norman
I'm trying something different in the hopes of getting more awareness about potential website changes with significant feature or UI impacts. The suggested place for comments is on the github issues or pull requests Reorganize export/share UI - the next set of changes to the share UI. Github page

[OSM-talk] Notable website/other updates being discussed

2013-08-06 Thread Paul Norman
I'm trying something new to get more visibility to upcoming potential website changes, as well as recent website changes. I probably won't include the introductory material each time, but it's worth explaining what I'm doing the first time. The purpose is both to get a wider audience for the

[OSM-talk] Goverments releasing data under PDDL

2011-09-08 Thread Paul Norman
Is anyone aware of a list of governments which are releasing datasets under the PDDL? So far I am aware of Surrey, BC (http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx) Township of Langley, BC (http://www.tol.ca/ServicesContact/OpenData.aspx) City of Winnipeg, MB (http://api.winnipegtransit.com/)

Re: [OSM-talk] Who's using the torrents?

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
I also used the torrents when setting up my jxapi server. Now that it's setup, I no longer use them. Because the torrents are setup to pull from planet.osm.org as well as peers, they should always be faster than downloading only. I had to turn off some of my torrent blocklists for maximum speed.

Re: [OSM-talk] Jerusalem name tag - Mediation

2011-10-08 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Andrew Guertin [mailto:andrew.guer...@uvm.edu] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jerusalem name tag - Mediation On 10/07/2011 11:40 AM, Andy Robinson wrote: I'm going to suggest the latter, three nodes as follows: [...] Any solution should probably apply to

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline extracts now added to metropolitan area extracts

2011-10-09 Thread Paul Norman
From: Michal Migurski [mailto:m...@stamen.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline extracts now added to metropolitan area extracts Hi everyone, I've updated my metro extracts with some new cities and individual extracts of the coastline shapefiles for each area:

Re: [OSM-talk] 'wget'ing largish portion of planetOSM

2011-10-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mick [mailto:bare...@tpg.com.au] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] 'wget'ing largish portion of planetOSM On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:58:28 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Mick bare...@tpg.com.au wrote: I have been struggling to get a largish

[OSM-talk] Truck route rendering

2011-11-05 Thread Paul Norman
Is anyone aware of any renderings that show truck routes? Ideally, showing hgv=yes/no/designated and hazmat=yes/no/designated I've been surveying them lately. Unfortunately, as the most of the city truck route lists are not available under an open license it is a rather slow process.

Re: [OSM-talk] Truck route rendering

2011-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
From: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:nerou...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Truck route rendering Contact user PeterIto and he can add something to ITO Map (or let you know if a 'hidden' rendering already exists). ITO now has a hidden truck rendering. My local area is

Re: [OSM-talk] Aerial photo offsets

2011-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
There was some discussion about a True Offset Process (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/True_Offset_Process) awhile back, but I'm not sure if any code ever got written. As much as I sometimes talk about offset imagery, it is overall more accurate than single GPS tracks. Although we can all find

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for translations of the upcoming new welcome page

2013-08-13 Thread Paul Norman
Just a couple of notes that might anticipate some questions. From: Kai Krueger [mailto:kakrue...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:50 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Request for translations of the upcoming new welcome page As the current translatewiki based system [2] is not setup to

[OSM-talk] Upcoming potential website features

2013-08-19 Thread Paul Norman
I'm trying something new to get more visibility to upcoming potential website changes, as well as recent website changes. I won't include the introductory material next time, but it's worth explaining what I'm doing this time. The purpose is both to get a wider audience for the discussion of

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org)

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org) Il giorno 18/ago/2013, alle ore 03:07, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com ha scritto: in some countries,

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Norman
P1 was removed from the list because an absurdly high percentage of new mappers were still choosing it as their first editor, clearly in error. I believe you can still set it as your default editor if you really want to, From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] Sent: Friday, August 16,

Re: [OSM-talk] www.openstreetmap.org messed up

2013-08-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bryce Nesbitt [mailto:bry...@obviously.com] To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] www.openstreetmap.org messed up The site developers can avoid this with with a cache-busting serial number (e.g. 0001_site.js 0002_site.js) that gets incremented for major changes.

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-24 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:00 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org Case 3 ... vandalism creating havoc ... this can only be correctly handled by reverting the change set ... a

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org Paul Norman wrote: Case 3 ... vandalism creating havoc ... this can only be correctly handled by reverting the change set ... a delete

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Peter Wendorff [mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org If you revert a deletion the old nodes aren't re-used, but created as new objects. There is no real undeletion in the API, so all

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Peter Wendorff [mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:34 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org Am 25.08.2013 11:11, schrieb Paul Norman: From: Peter Wendorff [mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de] Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Size of installed Database?

2013-08-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: torstenm...@schleim.mac.com [mailto:torstenm...@schleim.mac.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] Size of installed Database? Hello, i'm about to install the latest planet.osm and i'd like to install it on an SSD. The bzipped XML file is approximately 31 GB of size, but how much space will i

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql multipolygon parsing

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql multipolygon parsing it has a different meaning. tags on a closed way are for the whole area inside the way, tags on a mp relation are for the area of the outer minus the inner ways. Unless the

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 6:51 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values? I finally wrote down what I found out about semicolons in tag values and what I think about them. Turns out there

Re: [OSM-talk] Administrative boundaries export

2013-10-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Administrative boundaries export you don't need them, and you will put unneccessary heavy load on the db creating a relation with all coastlines and the land side borders

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Paul Norman
http://jxapi.openstreetmap.org/xapi/api/0.6/node[amenity=drinking_water] took about 3 minutes total. 14.5MB result. From: Bryce Nesbitt [mailto:bry...@obviously.com] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:53 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60,000

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating a single better maintained list of XAPI/Overpass servers

2013-10-07 Thread Paul Norman
From: Roland Olbricht [mailto:roland.olbri...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Creating a single better maintained list of XAPI/Overpass servers The jxapi instance exists since some time, but I don't know to what standards it is maintained.

[OSM-talk] Upcoming website features

2013-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
This is a periodic message about interesting website changes upcoming. The purpose is both to get a wider audience for the discussion of changes and to inform people what's going on. For more information about this message and the criteria, see the github repo

Re: [OSM-talk] full history planet file updated?

2013-11-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maurizio Napolitano [mailto:napoo...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 6:10 AM To: OSM Talk Subject: [OSM-talk] full history planet file updated? i need the full history planet more recent. Here there is an old planet file (8 months ago).

[OSM-talk] Redaction of inproperly imported protected areas data

2013-11-06 Thread Paul Norman
tend to lead to confusion, with people reporting vandalism because something that used to be on the map isn't any more. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Nearby Users

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:50 AM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] Nearby Users Hi, I looked ad my personal nearby users list today for the first time in a while and found only 2 people with edits in the last year, 16

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates

2013-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:51 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 09:24:46PM -0800, Paul Norman wrote: From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org] Sent

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap website/API in read-only mode

2013-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:54 PM To: 'Talk Openstreetmap'; d...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap website/API in read-only mode As of 02:30 UTC the OpenStreetMap website and API have been placed into read-only mode

[OSM-legal-talk] License review request: Sardinia ad-hoc authorization

2013-11-23 Thread Paul Norman
sabas88 is proposing an import of some data in Sardinia (http://lists.osm.org/pipermail/imports/2013-November/002370.html) The first three paragraphs appear to be preamble, with the permissions granted in the final paragraph. A user-supplied translation of this paragraph is So, knowing that

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap website/API in read-only mode

2013-11-21 Thread Paul Norman
- Nominatim - Wiki - Forum - Mailing lists Paul Norman, posting for the sysadmins, because they're suddenly busy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates

2013-11-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:13 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline updates Hi! For the last about two weeks we haven't gotten any coastline updates through. The problem is that every day there is something broken

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page

2013-11-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:51 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome box on the new map page Which is why I simply ask that the old layout is made available again as that only requires access to pages that

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:11 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam Hi, we're seeing a rising number of new ways and nodes which seem to be added by people who create an account for just one purpose, namely

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Paul Norman
A quick copy/paste of the share HTML into a minimal page: http://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/embed_test.html The redesign has changed absolutely nothing on the page of someone embedding OSM. What it has changed is what they get when they click on View Larger Map, they get the new page,

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-05 Thread Paul Norman
Generally they’re not offices but mailboxes in post offices that are the problem. They get tagged, but if you go there, all that’s there is a private post office. From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:39 AM To: Ed Loach Cc: osm

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-05 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:24 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Ed Loach; osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam 2013/12/5 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com Generally they’re not offices but mailboxes in post offices that are the problem. They get tagged, but if you go

Re: [OSM-talk] Hobbyist OSM Data Server?

2013-12-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 4:59 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Hobbyist OSM Data Server? So I'm wondering whether we could, if enough people raise contributions, have an OSM read only, hobbyist server which could be used to host

[OSM-talk] Assembling imagery: to mosaic or not

2014-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
I host various sources of imagery for the benefit of local users. One fairly typical scenario is where I have two sources of imagery covering an area. Although I create layers for each source, I'm not sure what to best put as a source for the list in the editors. The two options are to add a

[OSM-talk] CJK fallback fonts - testing needed

2014-01-11 Thread Paul Norman
Right now the main OpenStreetMap.org stylesheet uses Unifont as a fallback font to render Chinese, Japanese and Korean (CJK) characters, as well as any other characters not present in the DejaVu font. Unifont is mainly designed to support all characters, and is not designed to look good. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Level of detail, Zoom 19. Has it decreased?

2014-01-13 Thread Paul Norman
There's nothing that I see that would be rendered given more space - shop=toys and shop=beauty have never been rendered by osm.xml or openstreetmap-carto. See https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/116 for the current discussion about this. From: Bryce Nesbitt

Re: [OSM-talk] CJK fallback fonts - testing needed

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:19 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk- k...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] CJK fallback fonts - testing needed Right now the main OpenStreetMap.org stylesheet uses Unifont

[OSM-talk] Thai font feedback for style updates

2014-02-24 Thread Paul Norman
Right now the main OpenStreetMap.org stylesheet uses Unifont as a fallback for characters not in the DejaVu font. As Unifont is designed to support all characters and not to look good, this can lead to ugly and difficult to read text in parts. I'm looking at Thai fonts right now and would like

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile refresh on openstreetmap.org

2014-03-01 Thread Paul Norman
From: Matthijs Melissen [mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:28 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tile refresh on openstreetmap.org Would there be a way to avoid large rendering queues with every update? Rolling out the stylesheets region

Re: [OSM-talk] where to buy custom, large print OSM maps?

2014-03-08 Thread Paul Norman
If you have a suitable style for print, it's not too hard to make a large image that can then be printed in high quality at Office Depot, Staples, Fedex stores, etc. The hard part is the map style. From: Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 5:13 AM To:

Re: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses

2014-03-26 Thread Paul Norman
Keep in mind since OpenAddresses is a database of databases, there's a license on the OpenAddress database (CC0) and then the licenses on its contents (the address databases). Unfortunately, using the data requires converting each different schema to whatever schema you require. It's a fairly

[OSM-talk] Looking for names in South Asian languages

2014-03-26 Thread Paul Norman
I'm currently working on South Asia font support for openstreetmap-carto, the default style on openstreetmap.org I'm trying to find names on rendered features in a few scripts - Sinhala (si) - Gujarati (gu) - Gurmukhi (Script for Punjabi, pa) - Kannada (kn) - Oriya (or) My initial research

Re: [OSM-talk] admin_level 4 rendering

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Norman
Subarea members are a pain and duplicate geographic information, but I don’t think they cause any performance issues, largely because all the relevant tools ignore them. From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:29 PM To: Felix Delattre Cc: Talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Are there some infos about the outtake ?

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: colliar [mailto:colliar4e...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:15 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Are there some infos about the outtake ? Hey Are there any infos available about the current outtake ? I am just curious if I will have a chance to upload

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction of inproperly imported protected areas data

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Norman
I held off on the redaction because there was some hope of getting Permission from the WDPA, but it looks like they won't be licensing the data under an open license, or giving us special permission. -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday

[OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

2014-05-13 Thread Paul Norman
and blocking. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

2014-05-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy I have to say, my initial reaction to this proposal was that it was heavy handed, unnecessarily punitive, over reaching, and not in the spirit of

[OSM-talk] Canadian OSM POI quality

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Norman
I was curious how complete OpenStreetMap shop data was, so decided to do an analysis for some Canadian chains. The results were mixed. Starting with a Canada extract, I processed the data into PostGIS and ran queries against name, brand and franchise for objects where amenity, office or shop was

[OSM-talk] openstreetmap-carto updates

2014-06-09 Thread Paul Norman
Version 2.15.0 of the openstreetmap-carto was just released Full changes: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/compare/v2.14.0...v2.15.0 There were a lot of behind the scenes cleanups to the style, but two notable changes are landuse recolouring and track restyling. Landuse

[OSM-talk] Proposed repeated mechanical edit: Empty relations

2014-06-16 Thread Paul Norman
I'm proposing a regular mechanical edit to remove relations over two days old with no tags, no members, and that are version 1. The reasons for this are hopefully obvious. They should only exist through editor bugs, and contain no data from users of any kind. There are currently 1.4k relations

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed repeated mechanical edit: Empty relations

2014-06-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-16 3:55 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm curious, can you get a count of empty relations by editor and age? Basically, current, and then yearly? There have been past cleanups, so what you're talking about would need to involve looking at historical data, which I don't have loaded up,

Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

2014-06-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-20 12:47 PM, Johan C wrote: However, I don't think it's a good idear that the DWG can decide on policies/guidelines/requirements etcetera because it's the same DWG that uses these policies/guidelines/requirements for enforcing. The DWG does not decide policies. That is one of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed repeated mechanical edit: Empty relations

2014-06-23 Thread Paul Norman
kind. Most of the parent relations themselves had no tags and no other members. On 2014-06-16 1:17 PM, Paul Norman wrote: I'm proposing a regular mechanical edit to remove relations over two days old with no tags, no members, and that are version 1. The reasons for this are hopefully obvious

Re: [OSM-talk] The biggest violation of OpenStreetMap, ever.

2014-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-09 11:42 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 09 July 2014, Michael Reichert wrote: The website now has an attriution in the lower right corner: © Geopoi, Map Data: © Here, OpenStreetMap contributors Here is a link to http://here.com/ OpenStreetMap is a link to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-18 10:53 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I should add that I do not intend on changing state boundaries, just mapping indian nations where I know the boundaries to lie on the ground, as higher than state, lower than the country, inside the US only, if that wasn't clear on the admin level

[OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-22 Thread Paul Norman
v2.17.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released, though not yet deployed on tile.osm.org. Significant changes include * Rendering other shop values with a generic icon (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/604) * Rendering wider road shields, and converting

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/29/2014 1:32 PM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: Well I was surveying some area in France earlier this year and found a spot with missing street names so I marked it in and a JBacc1 (same JB?) commented so what (in French Oui. Quels sont-ils ?) and resolved it thus. I reopened it with

Re: [OSM-talk] Early History of OSM

2014-08-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/4/2014 10:12 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: I don't know if it is still possible to reconstruct a planet from pre-redaction changesets [2], The redaction doesn't matter for reconstructing old data - for pre-2007 we're talking API v0.3 data or earlier, with segments.

Re: [OSM-talk] extracts for historical views at a specific point in time

2014-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/14/2014 6:59 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i have a need to be able to generate mapnik tiles for part of NY State to show what the OSM view of it looked like maybe 2 years ago. is there a documented process for pulling an extract like that? Two years ago is before the redaction, so you need CC

Re: [OSM-talk] Carto: High zoom levels (17-19) not updated

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/18/2014 11:01 AM, colliar wrote: Is it only me or do other also see no updates of zoom level 17 to 19 of the main mapnik renderer. Usually, they update within minutes when reloaded but now I am waiting for some days and nothing happens.

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/24/2014 2:48 AM, Lester Caine wrote: It's not the 'brightness - it's the compressed contrast which is has always been the problem with iD. maproulette does not link to potlatch2 which I'd normally use when not on a system with JOSM running ... iD does not compress imagery contrast. I just

Re: [OSM-talk] web page element browsing history regression

2014-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/25/2014 9:43 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I understand that this is an open source project with volunteer contributions, but that part actually WAS already functional for years. Would it be possible to get the old browsing and history pages back, at least until someone comes up with an

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/27/2014 9:47 AM, Edward Betts wrote: Does anybody have a strong preference that the edits are split up by region, or loaded in batches? Any objections? When the idea of a mechanical edit to add wikidata tags to objects in GB came up, the local view was against it. How will you make sure

[OSM-talk] Routing on OpenStreetMap.org: Bug checks wanted

2014-08-28 Thread Paul Norman
There is currently a pull request up for adding routing to OpenStreetMap.org which could use another check over for bugs. A demo instance is running at http://jsrouting.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/. Although bug reports are needed, requests to expand the scope or redesign the UI are unlikely

[OSM-talk] openstreetmap-carto upgrade, new features, interesting issues

2014-09-06 Thread Paul Norman
After a delay for hardware reasons (a drive having issues in a rendering server), the Standard stylesheet on OpenStreetMap.org has been upgraded to v2.20.0 of openstreetmap-carto. As always, a full list of changes can be found at github, via

Re: [OSM-talk] That nice popup about the State of the Map

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/8/2014 11:18 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote: it has been some days that, when I visit openstreetmap.org, I am shown a nice box reminding me that SoTM is coming soon (see screenshot[1]), is there a way to use this system to promote local events (say local State of the Map conferences?). There

Re: [OSM-talk] That nice popup about the State of the Map

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/8/2014 11:45 AM, Cristian Consonni wrote: Both are absolutely good points, for the first one can I suggest to use the same system that is used on Wikimedia websites? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Geonotice Code to add geonotices to a Mediawiki wiki is unlikely to be directly applicable

Re: [OSM-talk] That nice popup about the State of the Map

2014-09-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/8/2014 12:03 PM, Cristian Consonni wrote: (Ruby on Rails? i thought it was PHP!) With the exception of some API calls in C++, the code powering the website is all Ruby on Rails. There's also obviously user-facing Javascript. The map rendering and geocoding are not part of the website on

Re: [OSM-talk] keys with multiple values

2014-09-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/12/2014 3:24 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: To me there's very little semantic value in distinguishing between name_2 and alt_name. Even old_name and loc_name arguably don't bring much to the table (I do see the nuance, but it doesnt seem to be worth the complication). We've got the same

Re: [OSM-talk] keys with multiple values

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/15/2014 9:45 AM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: Supporting multiple values natively in the osm data model would provide a clean and efficient solution, but updating all the tools to support it would be a huge undertaking. It's not going to get supported by most data consumers. This isn't a

Re: [OSM-talk] keys with multiple values

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/15/2014 10:29 AM, colliar wrote: Of course we could define some escape character like the famous backslash but ... I don't even want to write that stupid idea down. Do not think that is stupid but one solution for a rare situation. If it is properly described on the wiki, there should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Wood Park mapnik carto anomaly?

2014-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
On Sep 16, 2014, at 06:33 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 16/09/2014 13:41, Matthijs Melissen wrote:         In general, we render smaller landuse on top of larger landuse. I find it surprising something as arbitrary as size is used as the defining factor. Comparing actual tags

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