Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group From: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:47 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: impo...@openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start IMO, the process

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start

2012-12-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] MassGIS Building Import Start I'm not sure if this page is actually linked to from anywhere but all account blocks and the reasons they were put in place are viewable by everybody on this page:

Re: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-15 Thread Paul Norman
of the consultation. From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:05 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; Paul Norman Subject: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse Hi, Paul Norman pointed out that I forgot to mail people about my work on topeka. I have

Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS Building Import - process

2012-12-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Greg Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] MassGIS Building Import - process Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org writes: Paul - I've added a few comments and questions about changeset size and revert policies on the Import Guidelines Plan Outline wiki pages. Are

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Norman
on it but the person doing so would probably be okay since they didn’t make the K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2) certification. From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 9:51 AM To: Martin Koppenhöfer Cc: Paul Norman; imports; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Norman
...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 6:51 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: imports; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Imports] [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse Well we can remove the names of the lbcs codes, I left them for now because it is very useful for editing. I am using them

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Norman
help clarify guidance moving forward. (my take on the answers are: no (2 weeks minimum), no (that page is a disaster), and no clue.) Thanks, Jeff On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Norman
From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:31 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs? I have been pondering the use of the admin_level key in the USA, and have come to the realization that while values 2, 4, 6

Re: [Talk-us] BC/Washington border

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
to connect town boundaries to them). I'd be interested to know how well that data source matches others for the state boundary, too, though. Paul Norman got me thinking about the BC/Washington State border. Comparing Washington State's border files with TIGER data you'll find discrepancies. I

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] NOAA Imports

2013-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 2013-01-09, at 7:38 PM, Sailor Jerry sailorje...@scmarinetech.com wrote: Looks I like barged straight to the committee boat and now I need to do my 720 turns :-) Here is what I've done so far: 1) Reverted all my previous submissions ( see

Re: [Talk-us] Import Committee Meeting tonight on Google+

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Norman
Darn - I'm out tonight (and every Tuesday) -Original Message- From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:56 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Import Committee Meeting tonight on Google+ Hey all, A quick reminder that

[Talk-us] OSM usage in the last election

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Norman
I'm working on a presentation and was wondering if anyone had some examples of use of OSM for maps in the recent US election. I know there were some, but I can't find them ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM

2013-02-14 Thread Paul Norman
From: Brian Cavagnolo [mailto:bcavagn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:29 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM Is parcel data useful to OSM? Parcel data in of itself has not found a use in OSM. Parcel data bounds

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
Nothing in that presentation says that Google sourced the data from Wikipedia, just that Wikipedia and Google had the same coordinates, which in this case would be from some official source. The current data on Google also differs from Wikipedia. From: Michael Patrick

Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Server Infrastructure

2013-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
A us-only taginfo. Frequently the tag usage distribution varies between regions which is why there local taginfo instances for a few countries (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taginfo/Sites) The taginfo sqlite databases total about 4GB for the planet so this shouldn't take much space, but

Re: [Talk-us] Park Boundary tagging

2013-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
Both of those relations describe areas. In fact, I believe osm2pgsql uses the exact same code for building type=boundary as type=multipolygon. From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 3:38 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Park

Re: [Talk-us] Updating unchanged TIGER imports to TIGER 2013

2013-03-11 Thread Paul Norman
I'm not exactly following the logic in the code. Could you produce a .osc file result with the changes that it would make? From: Eric Fischer [mailto:e...@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:11 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Cc: Michal Migurski; Alex Barth Subject: [Talk-us] Updating

Re: [Talk-us] Questions about bsupnik's NHD OSM files

2013-03-12 Thread Paul Norman
With all the address stuff I've completely dropped NHD off my plate. I had been working on a NHD to OSM conversion and had gotten so far as to get a Potlatch2 instance with it as a background layer, see http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-November/009515.html and

Re: [Talk-us] Questions about bsupnik's NHD OSM files

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ben Supnik [mailto:bsup...@xsquawkbox.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:52 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: 'Mack Stanley'; OpenStreetMap US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Questions about bsupnik's NHD OSM files Hi Y'all, I've been out to lunch re: NHD for a while..Paul, a stupid q

Re: [Talk-us] key source:maxspeed

2013-03-22 Thread Paul Norman
It's worth noting that source:maxspeed=sign is the most common value. I looked at the last-touched authors for a couple of the country:region values and for sign and survey and it was my impression that sign and survey had a wider distribution of users using them. From: the Old Topo Depot

Re: [Talk-us] Need an OSM dev in PDX to make a custom vector map file

2013-03-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bob Eddings [mailto:eddi...@mac.com] Subject: [Talk-us] Need an OSM dev in PDX to make a custom vector map file I'm working on a local design project and need to meetup with someone in Portland with the tools skill to create a custom vector map of the Portland metro area (minus

[Talk-us] SOTM-US Friday pre-sessions

2013-05-03 Thread Paul Norman
I was wondering who the workshops on Friday before SOTM would be of interest to. Advanced mappers? Developers of OSM software? Developers of software using OSM data? I'm trying to figure out what days to fly in/out on. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import

2013-05-04 Thread Paul Norman
Thanks for the proposal, I have a few comments From: Matthew Petroff [mailto:openstreet...@mpetroff.net] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:03 PM Subject: [Imports-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import Using QGIS, I assigned approximate street addresses to each building using a parcel map [3]

Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import

2013-05-05 Thread Paul Norman
From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore Building Outlines Import Hi, If you carefully read the original mail, you will see two download links. Both of those links it says the data is public domain I

[Talk-us] SOTM-US list for room shares

2013-05-05 Thread Paul Norman
I've started a table at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2013#Room_share for SOTM-US room shares. Anyone considering a room share should plan it soon because the Holiday Inn Civic Center special SOTM-US rate requires booking by the 10th. Other hotels don't have a hard

Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests

2013-05-11 Thread Paul Norman
From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] misuse of the landuse=forest tag for national forests Hello Torsten: Please see our wiki pages at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dforest and

Re: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly

2013-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. From: James Mast

Re: [Talk-us] Mass deletion in shawnee county, ks

2013-05-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Mike Dupont [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 8:45 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; Toby Murray; the Old Topo Depot; Paul Norman Subject: Mass deletion in shawnee county, ks Hi all, I would like some help here. I have spent the past 6 months working

Re: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:22 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs my feeling is that if there's a named town then including a much smaller CDP with the same name is quite misleading. i think the same

[Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Norman
. This covers both his NE2 and NE3 accounts. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments

2013-06-02 Thread Paul Norman
We lost track of this case when Richard Weait stepped down, but I placed a 0-hour block about the complaints and pointing out that changeset comments are helpful. The 0-hour block has expired so Cam4rd98 has read it, but have they stopped the behavior that was the problem? I don’t have the

Re: [Talk-us] [HOT] Black Forest Fire Update

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
[mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:56 AM To: Russell Deffner Cc: 'Murry McEntire'; 'Paul Norman'; 'hot'; 'OSM US Talk' Subject: Re: [HOT] [Talk-us] Black Forest Fire Update natural=wood is the obvious way to me. It's what I use here in Ottawa, Canada. On 14/06

[Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Norman
I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot of landuse=residential imported from FMMP which is clearly wrong. The landuse=residential covers entire cities, including commercial, industrial, retail, parks, schools, golf courses, airports, and pretty much anything within city

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Bryce Nesbitt [mailto:bry...@obviously.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been doing some California landuse and have come across a lot

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP residential

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Norman
probably need to have a bigger look at cleaning up California landuse imports, there is some weird and wrong stuff there, but that's a wider discussion that doesn't need to stop us from removing the clearly wrong stuff. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 3:29

Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding?

2013-06-22 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] what do we mean by geocoding? On 6/21/13 9:39 PM, Mike N wrote: On 6/21/2013 1:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: Surveying postal addresses by opening mailboxes (illegal) or knocking on doors doesn't seem feasible.

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
Neither of those is public domain. I know for individuals there can be issues releasing data into the public domain, but if a government's lawyers feel their data is public domain, I generally just take them at their word. If the data is public domain then a simple statement that the data is

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain

2013-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
Of Josh Doe Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:59 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: Ian Dees; Elliott Plack; Imports US; OSM US Talk List Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Releasing my data into Public Domain On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Neither of those is public

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote: From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk vs motorway for rural Interstates with grade crossings

2013-07-20 Thread Paul Norman
From: Shawn K. Quinn [mailto:skqu...@rushpost.com] Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [Talk-us] Trunk vs motorway for rural Interstates with grade crossings As an example of what I am referring to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/145137749/history I noticed that

Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today.

2013-07-28 Thread Paul Norman
From: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Spammy-sounding survey sent to my OSM inbox today. This knowing everything about everybody has gone too far. You don't know about padeshahekhoban? Neither do I. And I really don't care to:

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-08-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal There was another, gnis:fcode, I believe, which people wanted preserved. My solution to this ambiguity is to explicitly list the tags to remove, rather than say All gnis tags except X,Y ,Z

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-07 Thread Paul Norman
To recap and hopefully move forwards, I'm bringing this up again. From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal Hi all, I've been looking at the GNIS data and it's quite a mess. As a step towards

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal

2013-09-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 1:39 AM Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; OSM Imports List Subject: Re: [Talk-us] GNIS tag removal proposal Paul, Agreed- and most of why I put this away was that I felt the discussion had gone off the

Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore County GIS Data is now public domain

2013-09-30 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Baltimore County GIS Data is now public domain Your use of public domain in the subject is potentially confusing, since there is no reliable method for you to declare that the data

[Talk-us] Editing heatmaps for OSM-US canidates

2013-10-05 Thread Paul Norman
I threw together a set of links to OSM-US candidates editing heatmaps for edits in the US, as one of the criteria I'm using for deciding whom to vote for is editing history. Edits in Alaska or Hawaii are outside the window, but were not significant. Martijn van Exel:

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2013 Places shapefile for PA?

2013-10-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: stevea [mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2013 Places shapefile for PA? Now, is there a method (as neat and easy as using itoworld) that renders both ways and relations? I mean for admin_levels, especially, as they

[Talk-us] Lake Erie shores

2013-10-19 Thread Paul Norman
I happened across http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1205150, a relation with name=Lake Erie. My recollection is that last time this came up we decided that as the Great Lakes are large lakes by any reasonable standard they are best represented as natural=coastline. Thousand-member MPs

Re: [Talk-us] NHD tags

2013-11-04 Thread Paul Norman
I delete all of those but gnis:feature_id and source when I'm editing if I'm confident that the OSM tags are right. -Original Message- From: Jason Remillard [mailto:remillard.ja...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:57 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject:

Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US: CDPs

2013-11-08 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Admin borders in the US: CDPs the latter, i think. there are parts of the US where the CDP boundaries do contribute to the map. I think there's two different cases that need to be distinguished between. One is where

Re: [Talk-us] Currently available good GPS for use with OSM mapping in the USA?

2013-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emac...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Currently available good GPS for use with OSM mapping in the USA? It's also worth mentioning that the type of environment you're in makes a huge difference. When you're in a

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Florian Lohoff [mailto:f...@zz.de] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 03:57:40PM -0600, Ian Dees wrote: No, these aren't compass directions.

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing building data for Anne Arundel County MD

2013-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
From: Eric H. Christensen [mailto:e...@christensenplace.us] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:25 PM To: impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Imports] Importing building data for Anne Arundel County MD I recently found that Anne Arundel County (Maryland) licenses

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Norman
It's important to remember that meetup.com is selling two services in one: their calendaring and organization software, and listing on their site which involves publicity with their substantial list of members for which they have both locations and interests. The first one is easy to reproduce,

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Using 'Kort' outside of Switzerland

2014-01-16 Thread Paul Norman
name:lang tags are for the name in lang, not for the name translated to lang. My neighborhood name could be translated into many languages, but that doesn’t mean it has anything other than an English name. It’s also important to remember that English is not a default in OSM names From:

Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town

2014-01-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:32 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Merging a GNIS node with a TIGER way - for a town On top of it, one of them claims Fortuna, CA is a town, while the other claims it is a

Re: [Talk-us] Telenav giving away iPad Mini or Galaxy Note to Editor with the Most Edits Made By March 10

2014-02-12 Thread Paul Norman
If there are users conducting undiscussed mechanical edits, please contact the data working group at d...@osmfoundation.org. Please include links to changesets, changed objects, and whatever we need to investigate. Remember that this contest is not directly affiliated with the OSMF or OSM,

[Talk-us] SOTM-US room/ride sharing

2014-04-07 Thread Paul Norman
For those who don't know, there's a place on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2014 for people to indicate if they want to arrange a room share. Washington is fairly expensive, so a room share is one way to save money. Disclosure: I'm on the list of people looking to split

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Inspector and streets with E/N/S/W in their name

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:06 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: [Talk-us] OSM Inspector and streets with E/N/S/W in their name I wonder: Is OSMI correct in flagging this for correction, or is this something that

[Talk-us] Upcoming talk: Rendering server optimization at SeaPUG

2014-05-03 Thread Paul Norman
On Tuesday May 6th I'll be giving a talk in the evening at the Seattle Postgres Users Group on optimizing the Postgres side of an OpenStreetMap tile rendering server. This is an adapted version of the talk I gave at the regional conference in April, which you can see at

Re: [Talk-us] Local groups on the map!

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 6:09 AM To: Martijn van Exel Cc: OSM US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Local groups on the map! a) A polygon indicates an area of exclusivity, and no other OSM groups are permitted within the area without the

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Highly suspicious edit

2014-05-17 Thread Paul Norman
there's a legitimate reason behind creating an alt explicitly created for vandalism. Reverted and http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/468 Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid

2014-05-21 Thread Paul Norman
The standard tag for where a road is misnamed in some other commonly referred to source is not:name. How to deal with well-intentioned mappers damaging the map by re-introducing bad data is an open question. They can actually cause quite a lot of damage without intending to, and the systematic

Re: [Talk-us] (no subject)

2014-06-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-23 8:41 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Supreme Court rules for a second time that indian nations are domestic dependent nations with inherent sovereign authority. This affirms that indian reservations are higher than the state level, lower than the federal level. This sounds like the

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-06-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-24 6:50 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Do you propose cutting the areas out of the states, i.e. so that IRs are not in any admin_level=4 relations? That's what you have to do if you're fitting IRs into the admin_level hierarchy. No, since the states often have agreements for limited

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-06-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-25 3:36 PM, Steve All wrote: Paul Norman wrote: I took TIGER data and produced data showing what some states would look like: https://gist.github.com/pnorman/30244b2984216285735d Those are truly excellent visualizations, Paul. Thank you for producing them. Whether right

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour

2014-06-30 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-30 9:59 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hey all! I created the Mappy Hour event for tonight! But I won't be able to make it, unfortunately... Who can be there at 5:30 PDT / 8:30 EDT to get it started? All that means is that you show up so there's someone there :) If you have a few

Re: [Talk-us] Usage of exit_to

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-03 7:13 PM, Bill R. WASHBURN wrote: I like how clearly you explain the differences. Since destination= is so much more intuitive and so much more widely used, should we depreciate exit_to, indicate on the wiki that exit_to is depreciated, and make a concerted effort to migrate

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-07-05 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-06-23 4:16 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: We should approach automated edits with a great deal of caution - but that's a separate discussion. I think converting exit_to to destination would be hard to do anyway because exit_to is added to the motorway_junction node, whereas destination

Re: [Talk-us] Missing boundaries in Glendale Arizona.

2014-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
On Jul 07, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote: Potlatch 1 lets you undelete ways you've deleted: follow the instructions at [1] to open Potlatch 1, then press U. You'll see deleted ways in red: select one and press the Unlock button in the tagging area to

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping event in Baltimore

2014-07-08 Thread Paul Norman
I added to the events calendar (http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Current_events), which is on the Wiki front page. On Jul 07, 2014, at 08:01 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be there! I'll see if I can get some of the other OSM locals out there too. https://flic.kr/p/n5HyuZ

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-07-15 Thread Paul Norman
a Turing machine to make an automated edit of this (esp where there's center exits, or more than one in the same spot left and right). On Jul 5, 2014 4:31 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 2014-06-23 4:16 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: We should approach automated edits with a great deal

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping Space Ports

2014-07-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-15 10:37 AM, Scott Rollins wrote: ​I think we hit a divided by a common language situation here. From the dictionaries I found, launchpad appears to be perfectly acceptable (and, it appeared to me, the preferred spelling) in American English. Although I'm not commenting on the

Re: [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-18 10:53 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I should add that I do not intend on changing state boundaries, just mapping indian nations where I know the boundaries to lie on the ground, as higher than state, lower than the country, inside the US only, if that wasn't clear on the admin level

Re: [Talk-us] More road name expansion thoughts

2014-07-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-19 2:46 PM, Mike N wrote: I suspect that most of the unusual cases would be too complicated for MapRoulette because of the need to consult with a governmental reference. Or actually survey them. Aside from first-hand knowledge being superior, there tends to be a high error rate in

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-07-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/15/2014 3:00 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I will follow up with some numbers, unless Paul changes his mind about this not having much interest and crunches the numbers before me. Of the approximately 28k exit_to nodes, 24k are children of two or three ways with exactly one of those ways

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-07-30 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/30/2014 1:45 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: So if you have expertise in Tilemill, I'd love the help in setting up some tiles that show probable abbreviations. I have the databases to do this, but it's not clear to me how to visualize this. Just color roads in that have abbreviations?

Re: [Talk-us] Road abbreviations

2014-07-31 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/30/2014 6:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Paul, Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out where the problems are- not trying to dig deeply into them yet- I'm looking for clusters of problems (ie San Diego), or I heard about a problem in Michigan where someone decided to revert a bunch of the

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/28/2014 10:56 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Is this abandoned railway really need at all? The last person to touch it was NE2. If there's no trace on the ground, delete it. If it's still there but without tracks, use railway=dismantled (e.g. a bed). By the looks of it, a lot of it goes

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/29/2014 9:41 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: And then I can point you to oddly connected roads, and a lack of buildings, or new buildings. Those things should certainly be mapped, but there are other projects to put historical data. ___ Talk-us mailing

Re: [Talk-us] multiple-value problem in ref tags

2014-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/15/2014 7:03 PM, Jack Burke wrote: As the wiki doesn't specifically say *don't* put a space after the semicolon, I didn't see a problem with doing it. [1] The standard is to use ; without a space as a delimiter. This is what both iD and JOSM use.

Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/19/2014 7:00 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: We really should come up with a good way to make authoritative data harder to edit in the various editors. All that a particular data source can be authoritative for is what that data source says something is. What is authoritative for OSM is the

Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings

2014-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/19/2014 6:19 AM, Reilly, Colin wrote: A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels. This seems incorrect. If I build a structure on two tax parcels, it can exist as a single building. It may not be legal, or may require planning tricks that make it two buildings in the eyes of the

Re: [Talk-us] User going around adding '-' to ref tags in Michigan

2014-09-26 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/26/2014 9:57 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: This is not really appropriate since the main map rendering stylesheet still takes ref tags from ways to paint the route number shields. There is work underway to take that information from route relations

[Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-02 Thread Paul Norman
I decided to conduct an rudimentary analysis on the edits of the current OSM US board candidates, similar to something I did last year. When considering the qualifications of someone on the board which sets direction for the local chapter, it is certainly useful to their experience as an OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/3/2014 8:28 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Paul, did you take alternate accounts into consideration, or only one uid per candidate? I only used the user that was linked from the candidate list. I considered multiple IDs, but I didn't expect it to make a significant difference for my uses. E.g.

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-05 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/5/2014 6:26 PM, Alan McConchie wrote: All of the candidates have made more than zero edits While true that all candidates have edited OSM at some point in the past, two of them have zero edits in the last year, and one of those has no US edits ever.[1] While a candidate may have other

Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits

2014-10-07 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/7/2014 10:51 AM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Also, all have editing experience with OSM, whether in the United States or outside. I would not consider someone who has not made a single edit in the last 12 months to have editing experience in the context of a local chapter election. This is

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

2014-11-11 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/11/2014 10:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I've created a set of tiles from US Forest Service road data for the 155 US National Forests. It's worth noting that a green area denotes a US National Forest, which does not imply it's got trees, which is necessary for an OSM forest. Thanks

Re: [Talk-us] admin level for US states

2014-11-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/24/2014 5:00 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I wonder why US States are tagged as admin_level=4, wouldn't it be more consistent with the rest of the map to have them tagged as level 3? admin_level=4 is consistent with Canada and Australia at the very least. I believe it's also consistent

Re: [Talk-us] NAD 27 data to OSM's native WGS 84 data

2014-12-31 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/31/2014 2:14 PM, stevea wrote: OSM uses WGS-84 as its default, and I erred in not realizing these data are in NAD 27, so a conversion does seem to be necessary. Not just by default - OSM is defined as only being in WGS84. When you open them as-is with JOSM (+ Shapefile plug-in), you get

Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points

2014-10-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/8/2014 8:49 PM, Jo Walsh wrote: Okay, my gloss on this is that the Code of Conduct is a kind of shibboleth and a kind of insurance policy. You need one in order to be seen taking this stuff seriously The argument raised recently was that having a CoC helps diversity, and is not a

Re: [diversity-talk] OSM code of conduct: starting points

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/11/2014 3:48 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: Here’s my question, and this needs to be clarified (probably deserves its own thread): Who is responsible for deciding what action needs to be taken in the case of CoC violations? A CoC without a body willing and able to enforce it is just

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2014 3:22 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Your justification for this seems to be behaviour outside of this list and/or, and this is the bit I take particular offense with, The private responses to me have generally expressed that is part of a pattern of behavior, and not an isolated incident.

Re: [diversity-talk] The recent unpleasantness

2014-12-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/2/2014 5:04 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Am I to understand that felt Serge's comments were acceptable behavior? I was expecting to find that you at least didn't condone it. but sadly no where did you say Serge's comments were unacceptable. No where did I say that his comments were acceptable

Re: [Talk-us] Get your early bird ticket to State of the Map US!

2015-02-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/4/2015 2:43 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Yup, that cutoff number is going to be somewhere beyond 1,000 - and we are fully planning to sell out the conference :) Any idea what portion will be mappers and what will be companies or other organizations? The feedback I've gotten is that the US

Re: [Talk-us] Please review: new proposed bylaws for OSM US, open for comments until Jan 20th

2015-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/14/2015 10:17 AM, Alex Barth wrote: To all OpenStreetMap US members: Our new proposed bylaws are open for comments until **January 20th 3PM Eastern**. Will these new bylaws be compatible with getting Local Chapter status? ___ Talk-us mailing

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Australian Government Department of Communications - Geocoded addressing survey [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]

2015-02-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/10/2015 4:32 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've completed their survey from a individual level, however will OSMF be submitting an OSMF response? I'm not 100% across what exact licensing conditions the data would need to be released under to leave open the possibility of incorporating it

[Talk-br] BR-116 split and cleanup

2015-02-02 Thread Paul Norman
Paulo (osm.org/relation/4551468) and in the south (osm.org/relation/4551469). The tracksource redaction is temporarily paused, but should now be much faster as it doesn't have to work with that mega-relation. Paul Norman For the OSMF Data Working Group

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM based GPS navigations and ODbl license of OSM data

2015-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/6/2015 11:01 AM, Karel Charvat wrote: Are the developers of Be-On-Road fullfilling their ODbl license obligations by providing their data only in files with unknown format? It depends. If they are not adding any data, they can simply point to the source (planet.osm.org). If they are

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