Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

Hey everyone, Just a question which no one seems to have addressed - is there any evidence that Go is actually using a *feed* of OSM data, rather than just a one-off dump? It's really rare, IMHO, for anyone to bother with a feed for a project like this - so much easier to just get a planet

Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data

been unable to get the explicit permission needed. >> >> Coverage is OK at the moment, so any import would be better as a >> semi-manual, street by street kind of thing. >> >> >> Public toilets, BBQs, Playgrounds, Park names, etc also spring to mind. >> &g

[talk-au] City of Melbourne data

Hi all, I'm a long time contirbutor (user:Stevage) but a bit quiet of late. I'm now working as Senior Open Data Specialist at City of Melbourne (email: opend...@melbourne.vic.gov.au), and have just got approval for our data to be used in OpenStreetMap. So: If someone would like to email that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > > Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets > including Victorian Government data listed here: > > >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

xcellent, well-worded summary. Would it be alright with you if I CC'ed you in my next response to them (which they have asked to be directed to *their* legal team...)? Steve On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > Hi Steve > > Before this discussion g

[OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

Hi all, I've been trying to convince the state government of Victoria (southeast Australia) to allow their VicMap raw data to be imported into OSM. It's currently CC-BY, and they've told me they're happy in principle for it to be used this way, but they're uncomfortable making the recommended

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

with. Did something change, or have I just been mistaken for a long time? Steve On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Hello Steve, On 30.08.2015 17:14, Steve Bennett wrote: I

Re: [talk-au] VicMap licensing - help?

not open. But I don't know how they consider using the API to trace from - could depend a bit on exact phrasing. Steve On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 at 13:33 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Can someone point

[talk-au] VicMap licensing - help?

Hi guys, Can someone point me to a clear statement that copying data from VicMap is definitely ok? I can't find anything on the VicMap API that says it's open licensed, and all I can find to go on is this one email thread starting 10/10/13 that's a bit inconclusive and unofficial. Thanks, Steve

Re: [talk-au] Proposed import of 19 bicycle repair stations in au/nz

But if anyone wants to do some armchair mapping there is lots of online info, for example: http://pcs.unimelb.edu.au/traffic-and-parking/bicycle-parking/bicycle-repair-stands.html Fascinating - I work very close to one of those points, had no idea. Steve

Re: [talk-au] Cycling network tag

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:29 PM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: The cycle tourism network that I suspect that you're referring to is the National Byway http://www.nationalbyway.org/welcome.asp which is a bit of a one-off - there are other RCNs that suit different cycling styles

Re: [talk-au] Cycling network tag

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Nicholas Barker nicholasbark...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve/Frank [replying back to list, looks like that was your intention] First up IMO I wouldn't be putting the Mawson as an NCN. Any kind of 'cycle network' including a 'national one' implies that it

Re: [talk-au] Cycling network tag

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Frank sundowne...@optusnet.com.au wrote: The network tag used on cycling routes .. is for example National Cycling Network (ncn) as in from one country to another In Australia we may not use this tag as per the definition .. but the length of the route may

Re: [talk-au] Moderators password?

of the others should have the password? Regards, Charles On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I haven't looked at this list in a while, but I'm getting a lot of moderator request(s) waiting. So I must be a moderator. I don't seem to have

Re: [talk-au] Railways

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: This particular thing really annoys me. Fair enough if the track is still in place - go nuts mapping it - but there are disused rail lines marked up even when the track hasn't been in place for 30 years, and it's only

[talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

Hi guys, I'm working with the City of Melbourne on some open data projects. www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/an-open-data-vision-20140818-105d5n.html One thing we could do is import some of their data into OSM. For example: - water fountains - addresses - businesses - trees I haven't

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data copying

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: What about this confusing one: http://bit.ly/1hXvwVK The picnic ground/campsite is literally signed No Name, and that's how everyone refers to it. I have no idea what the history is. (And there's a corner on the way up

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data copying

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.netwrote: No, no Steve, I worded my last letter really badly and totally apologise if I unintentionally offended anyone. My comment related specifically to your line - Ok, no worries :) Yeah. I'm still deciding what to

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data copying

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Humm .. there are places I've been before GPS... One example: I know the road is there as I've been on it. However it is now closed for vehicles - inside a National Park. I've mapped bits of it into OSM as it may be of use

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data copying

Hi Nick, From Li Xia's email on 10/10/13: I had a meeting with Vicmap staff today in regards to importing Vicmap data into OSM under the CC license. They are very excited about the community showing interest in their data and are have clarified that importing it is fine. I'm not clear on

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data copying

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.comwrote: Steve wrote IMHO some small scale imports may be useful, but from my comparisons, the VicMap data is not necessarily better than OSM. It often has stuff OSM doesn't, but sometimes that includes spurious stuff like

[talk-au] VicMap in Potlatch2

Hi all, I've just discovered you can add VicMap, Victoria's open data licensed authoritative mapping service, into Potlatch 2. It's not at all obvious how, so here's the answer: In Background, click Edit then add:

Re: [talk-au] Adding residential properties?

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.comwrote: I started out with buildings, but got a bit excited in my local area; getting down into trees, power lines, fences, driveways etc. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-34.84928/138.52277 Not super pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: However, in the case at hand, it seems that the interest is not to improve OSM but instead we're just a vehicle for people to show up on the coinmap, a business directory for bitcoin-accepting businesses. I don't think

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: There are many businesses where you can't go and buy something, but still they should be in OSM. Think of a car manufacturer, you can't go there and buy a car. Yeah but the difference is a manufacturing plant

Re: [talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It seems the point of the three relations is to identify which parts of the trail are accessible to which categories of users. How do you intend to encapsulate that info? What is the basis for splitting the

[talk-au] Wednesday December 11th: meetup with VicRoads

Hi guys, I'm helping organise an open data meetup with VicRoads called Meet the data owners: http://www.meetup.com/Datahack-Melbourne/events/152600552/ The idea is to help build relationships between data consumers (particularly developers) and Victorian government data providers, in this case

Re: [talk-au] data.qld.gov.au explicit permission request

Hi Jason, Nice work - any response? Steve On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, My apologies if this has already been posted but I've just sent off a request to data.qld.gov.au for explicit permission to incorporate and publish their

[talk-au] Bridleways and tagging rail trails

Nick Barker sent me a message through openstreetmap.org - hope you don't mind me replying here: I've just been going through some edits and i noticed you changed the Tyers rail trail back to a path from a bridleway and just was wondering why. The reason i tagged it as a bridleway as apparently

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: The original example wasn't mine, but I think it is very common that a pub has much later opening hours than a restaurant. Having both as part of the same enterprise is a british speciality if I remember my visits correctly. And

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org - some numbers

On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:36 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: In an attempt to put some numbers to to the errors made by new mappers debate, I've done a count-back of new users and editors that they use for they area that I keep an eye on in the UK (England and bits of Wales,

Re: [OSM-talk] Slow TileMill rendering - Postgres using 1 core?

is querying postgres. Plain vanilla Mapnik is not doing more than one postgres query at a time (not multithreading queries). A patch made by mappy allows mapnik to multithread its pg queries. Are you using the exact same version of Mapnik as before ? 2013/8/25 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com

[OSM-talk] Slow TileMill rendering - Postgres using 1 core?

Hi all, I'm running TileMill on an 8 core Ubuntu VM with 32GB of memory, on an OpenStack cloud. Recently, my VM was destroyed, and I rebuilt it (identically, I thought) on slightly different hardware (same cloud, but different physical infrastructure). The new build is much slower at rendering -

Re: [OSM-talk] Bringing new life to the OSM.org front page

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, a few other things to note: * With over 1 million registered users it is impossible to please everyone. Please put things into perspective before replying with negative comments. Also consideration of the

[OSM-talk] Application error at openstreetmap.org

-- Application error The OpenStreetMap server encountered an unexpected condition that prevented it from fulfilling the request (HTTP 500) Feel free to contact the OpenStreetMap community if your problem persists. Make a note of the exact URL / post data of your request. This may be a

Re: [talk-au] Historic stations and rail

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Nathan Van Der Meulen natvan...@yahoo.com wrote: I use name=Thompson (disused) as the map user sees immediately that the station is no longer in use. This may not be such a drama where the track is out of use as well, but when you map a station out of use on a

[talk-au] Historic stations and rail

Hi all, I've been working on some old train lines and stations, mostly around Victoria, and have finally settled on a tagging scheme, based on what's popular in taginfo. The current tagging has been pretty inconsistent, with lots of variations like railway=station, disused=yes, railway=station,

Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au

Hi Nyall, Yeah I'm quite interested to know more about this. I gather the Spatial DataMart has been around a while, so is the difference that they've published it on data.vic.gov.au and made it accessible to the public? Or is it the licensing that has changed? Might be worth having a meetup to

Re: [talk-au] surface=unsealed in 4wd/dirt road tagging

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:42 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Just a thought here, we'd really like the renderers to show unpaved/unsealed/whatever roads differently from sealed ones. In particular, the mapnik rendered slippery map on the OSM website FYI, the map style I'm

Re: [talk-au] surface=unsealed in 4wd/dirt road tagging

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Surprising stat. Especially considering paved is considered the default. Yeah - I try to specify it wherever possible though, outside cities. I really like multi-level tags. natural=water water=lake surface=unpaved

Re: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve

On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Elwell andrew.elw...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone point me to guidelines for where the .au distinction between the two lies? Great question. For my part, I'm pretty lazy and just tag everything as leisure=park, and hope that someone else will clean it up

Re: [talk-au] Two cycling maps I made

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au wrote: Looks great. Nice to see the output from a lot of mapping effort by everyone in the Melbourne/Victoria area. Yeah, we're getting to a really good level of completeness now. The biggest shortcoming I'm noticing for

Re: [talk-au] Rivers that have dams on them

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.au wrote: I used OSM on a nine day Overland Track Wall and found it very good with the Garmins that I was using. Used the routable maps and found they were about a one kilometre in ten understated on distance due to fewer

[talk-au] Two cycling maps I made

Hi all, Thought you might be interested to see to see two cycling maps I've made with TileMill and OSM data: 1) Bike map of Melbourne. It really highlights the major bike routes. The Capital City Trail is shown as a pattern of yellow dots. http://emscycletours.site44.com/map.html 2) Cycle

Re: [talk-au] Australia licence change redaction recovery..

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: So, my summary would be that we've probably comprehensively remapped he motorways and trunk roads across the country. We've got significantly more tracks, paths and residential/unclassified roads than we had before.

Re: [OSM-talk] iD, exclusive use of tags

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Right now when you click on other in this menu, the other tag that is considered principal by iD gets silently removed (e.g. if you click on a highway on other, the highway-tag is removed). Yeah, this was/is a

Re: [OSM-talk] source=Google

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: What do you propose to do with source tags found on an object when you modify this object based on a different source? Speaking for myself, I either replace it (if I'm replacing virtually all the geometry) or

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: But your overall point is surely that as long as we have the basics, if some group of people want the extra information and are willing to gather it, and some other group of people want to use the information and are

Re: [talk-au] Major 4WD tracks

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Li Xia lisxia1...@gmail.com wrote: Major 4wd tracks such as Birdsville track Old telegraph track Wonagatta rd Etc Hi Li, Still not clear on what you mean by major. Do you mean important, significant, famous...or do you mean big,well-maintained etc? If the

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

Hi all, This is a really interesting discussion, and thanks for the insights about Australia vs Europe vs US. A few comments: 1) I think TileMill/MapBox will be a game changer for the rendering guys won't listen to us problem. I suspect it will soon be much, much easier to have lots of

Re: [talk-au] Major 4WD tracks

Can you give examples of major 4WD tracks? Do you mean the 4WD route classification scheme? (I've seen some 4WD tracks near Mt Stirling that had official signage, difficulty ratings etc). Probably you'd use a relation like: type=route route=4wd network=??? name=... But I haven't done any

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap in Government

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:29 PM, kristy van putten kristy.vanput...@gmail.com wrote: On a personal note I would be interested in hearing more about the OSM Australia activities, and people current goals with OSM. I have read about the Bicentennial National Trail team, has anyone thought of 4WD

[OSM-talk] What to do with failed (Potlatch) save changeset?

While trying to save a changeset in Potlatch2, I got an error message about version conflicts, and was left with a big chunk of XML. Potlatch appears not to be able to do anything with it, but maybe I can still salvage something from it. I put it here:

Re: [OSM-talk] What to do with failed (Potlatch) save changeset?

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: The couple of times I've encountered this situation, I've manually edited out the conflicting element and then used upload.py to upload it to OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload.py Excellent, thanks.

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Just a further data point. As of the end of last month we had edits from 324'152 unique UIDs, not quite 30% of all accounts (some of the changesets are likely to be empty, but the number is still quite a bit larger than the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote: - could it be more obvious which is the start of each (downhill) run? Unless there a tag on the node, it would be hard. Emphasizing each way start node wouldn't be nice, as pistes can be made from several ways. Well, you can

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Dave Sutter sut...@intransix.com wrote: Creating another instance of the OSM database and server is a very good idea. I would propose we make the purpose of this database to allow people post ANY geo data that is NOT part of the base map. It would be an open

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenSnowMap.org

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:56 AM, yvecai yve...@gmail.com wrote: Pistes informations with a single clic:No more 'vector mode'. Lighter, better compatibility with browsers. Search for pistes by names:Nominatim results are augmented with a selection of ski pistes and lifts. Multi-modal routing

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: It's not only for outdated outlines. As said, it is not a map feature, it's just for some comfort during edition (would consider the same for mapping party cakes). What was the easiest and most pratical solution can be tolerated

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I think this boundaries can be useful, but should be in some other database. Are there any other appropriate databases? That is, something with the same form (an OSM database) for stuff related to the OSM project, but not

[OSM-talk] Osm2pgsql/TileMill - how to detect whether way is in a route?

Hi, I'm trying to render a mountain bike map with TileMill. Some trails are in route relations, eg: 3xWay: highway=path, mtb=yes 1xRelation: type=route, route=mtb, name=My Cool Trail Osm2pgsql converts those to 4 rows: the relation is the complete trail. What I want to do is not render any

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

...), but is there anything else I can do to speed them up? Is this normal? Thanks again for any information, Steve On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (First - is this the right list to discuss using TileMill? I can only find the MapBox support form

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: effect on rendering time. I guess I can further decompose these db queries (#landuse, #leisure...), but is there anything else I can do to speed them up? Is this normal? Ok, yes, that's apparently what you need to do

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: On Miércoles, 27 de febrero de 2013 12:03:30 Steve Bennett escribió: I'm having some problems with TileMill rendering very slowly. I suggest to have a look at Dane's slides about How to make slow maps: http

Re: [OSM-talk] (Off topic) Apple hiring OSM contributors in Australia?

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Why hire *away*? As noted by the OP, this story is indeed completely off-topic, and has nothing to do with OpenStreetMap. Apple's maps team is hiring new staff. To pitch this as some kind of head-hunting attack on OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: On Jueves, 28 de febrero de 2013 09:57:34 Steve Bennett escribió: Nice. Couple of questions about how to avoid certain of those traps: 1) How do you control multithreading? It looks like I'm getting access

[OSM-talk] TileMill performance

Hi, (First - is this the right list to discuss using TileMill? I can only find the MapBox support form, or gis.stackexchange.) I'm having some problems with TileMill rendering very slowly. Sometimes it seizes up altogether, until I restart it or reboot the server. This seems to happen

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: TileMill is not designed for that kind of application (running as a live server with no cache), though it will work 'a bit'. So: it doesn't do caching - you'll want a cache. Look at CloudFront, nginx's cache, varnish,

Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:09 AM, AJ Ashton aj.ash...@gmail.com wrote: (eg, is [zoom13] { #ways[...] } slower/faster than #ways[...][zoom13] ?) Does your layer setup actually looks like this? ie. one 'ways' layer pulling in the entire planet_osm_ways table? If so this will be problematic.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think separating rock music venues and concert halls is a good idea. They are basically the same thing, a big room where music is played. Agreed. There are too many tags as it is. Excessive distinctions causes a lot

[OSM-talk] How to obtain a small coastline polygon for TileMill?

Hi all, I'm learning TileMill with a project to render my home town of Melbourne, which is on the southeastern coast of Australia. The only problem I'm having is the coastline. I've tried a few things, and nothing has really worked: 1) The default 'countries' shape that comes with TileMill -

Re: [OSM-talk] How to obtain a small coastline polygon for TileMill?

Thanks - that's perfect. I hadn't noticed the SRS box. Works great now. Steve On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:03 PM, AJ Ashton aj.ash...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2013 11:22 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: 5) openstreetmapdata.com's land/sea polygons (http://openstreetmapdata.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: More philosophically the idea of someone claiming copyright on walking routes seems completely at odds with the nature of countryside walking, which to my mind has similar free and open values to open source

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Question about copyrighted hiking routes in France

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: First issue : it is the hiking route names themselves. For all of them created by the FFRP, the names are registered trademarks and cannot be used without permission (see question below). Second issue : the routes themselves are

Re: [talk-au] Google copying from OSM maps

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Barker, Nicholas nbar...@pb.com.au wrote: Not at all, it just seemed a bit of a double standard that we are diligent not to copy from other maps and only map what is on the ground...then this appears on Google on their 'cycle track' layer. If they had

Re: [talk-au] Cycle routes and MTB routes

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Barker, Nicholas nbar...@pb.com.au wrote: As many of you will know we have a few well known long distance (100km+) cycle routes, some of which cross state boundaries. These routes are also rugged and designed to be ridden on mountain bikes or hybrids only. A

Re: [talk-au] Adding only part of a road to a route relation (was: network and route tags)

Also (if using Potlatch), a useful shortcut you may not know about is Shift-R. That will copy all the relations from the last selected way to the current one. Steve On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:59 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 03/02/2013 12:22, David Clark wrote: ie I

[OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?

Hi all, We'd like to produce a high quality bike map, to be printed. I'm looking at the various renderers and wondering if anyone has a recommendation? Requirements - looks good (eg, labels on wiggly labels aren't too wiggly, some ability to avoid label clashes) - customisable rendering (MapCSS

Re: [talk-au] network and route tags

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:33 PM, David Clark dbcl...@fastmail.com.au wrote: Ok I've changed route=mtb to mtb=yes for the trail itself. That fixes the issue I had with the route side of this so that's great. Using this approach an mtb trail (singletrack) looks the same as a cycle path (paved

Re: [talk-au] network and route tags

Hi David, Where is this, btw? In general: - route=lcn are for bike paths that get you somewhere useful in the local vicinity. (We still debate exactly what LCN means in Australia) - route=mtb are for all mountain bike trails. Don't get hung up on any connotations you might have with a word

Re: [OSM-talk] Being more like Wikipedia (was: OpenStreetMap Future Look)

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I'm very much an outsider to Wikimedia but if I look at how much money they have spent on development and how little has changed for the contributing user - adding a table to an article is practically as difficult now as

Re: [talk-au] Pressing Issues (Was: Re: cities changed to towns)

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: We also need a review of those areas mapped in the shadow of the redaction. I was using my Edge 800 to do cycle navigation from Ryde to Manly on the weekend, and quite frankly it sucked big time. I was directed over 10

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

I would want place=city to refer to an urban populated area of at least 100,000 people as per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Values I've taken to fixing errors from Geofabrik OSMI and have changed places to match the schema above. Whilst I find hamlet village grate on me as

Re: [talk-au] Blind obedience following routing tools.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.netwrote: I guess people are aware of this story, people in trouble for following badly constructed maps - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-10/apple-maps-strands-motorists-looking-for-mildura/4418400 Looks like its to be

Re: [talk-au] Blind obedience following routing tools.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.netwrote: I guess people are aware of this story, people in trouble for following badly constructed maps - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-10/apple

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

Hi Chris, Interesting topic - sadly the wiki just acknowledges the lack of an answer. My take is that the distinction between village/town/city really only matters for the purpose of rendering anyway - any more sophisticated use of the data is going to use population figures to make its own

Re: [talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Yes! we are overloading the cycle route to not simply mean this is a way to get from A to B but also to mean a good way to cycle there. So, yes, we are giving two meanings to the same tag. Yours is simply

Re: [talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: I think this one is an edge case. I know the sign Ian means, and in my judgement it does not indicate a route. Oh, can you elaborate? I think the more common case (that is currently not well defined) is where some

Re: [talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Fundamentally, I think it is a continuous set of navigational signs that should be the primary indicator of a bicycle route, preferably agreeing with some documentation from the relevant authority. Ok, great - we do

Re: [talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Generally the case, but not always. My bicycle sign on Parramatta road being my best example so I'm sticking with it. A cycle route down a narrow three lane road, carrying trucks who'd soon as take you out as look at

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

isn’t historical mapping. If there are currently traces there then it’s mapping the present. *From:* Steve Bennett [mailto:stevag...@gmail.com stevag...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:02 PM *To:* Matt White *Cc:* talk-au *Subject:* Re: [talk-au

Re: [talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

Hi Ben, Thanks very much for starting this conversation - yes, it's a messy one. Mostly because the European (and particularly UK) concept of cycle route hasn't really existed here. But it's still worth trying to fit into because lots of tools (especially OpenCycleMap) do support that concept. *

Re: [talk-au] When is a road a cycle route?

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I take a simplistic approach to this. A road is a bicycle route if and only if it has a bicycle lane (lanes if a two-way road). Simple, but not very helpful IMHO. cycleway=lane already captures that information. lcn=* and

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.com.au wrote: Right. So if I delete the mapped rail line that doesn't exist, then remap the individual pieces of track, the remaining point and weighbridge, three overhead pylon mounts, one remaining station and one cutting that

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

winfi...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users need. I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a better suggestion. Polyglot 2012/11/24 Steve Bennett stevag

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

Hi Matt, The question about mapping old, historical features is much wider than just the Australian context. I'm pretty sure the current consensus is that we old rail lines should be mapped - even if there is not much to see on the ground. There might be more than you think - there's a station

Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach

* Unpaved roads are difficult to really classify the surface in terms of anything other than dirt/sand/rock. The surface state changes over time from smooth immediately after grading, to possibly deep ruts/corrugations/mud after rain and wear. In this case, my personal opinion would be to use some

Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure we've reached consensus in the past that if there is absolutely no evidence of it on the ground - no tunnels - no cuttings - no tracks. In other words there was a railway line, but now it is a shopping

Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:07 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.netwrote: Issue really is these guys will have some pretty heavy change controls in place. And there will be some pressure to not add anything unless its really proved essential, every extra bit of processing slows each

[OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

Hi all, I'm looking for a recommendations of mobile apps to recommend, for people visiting rail trails in Australia. What we* need is: Must have: 1) It has to be simple to use. There are lots of powerful apps like OSMand, Locus etc, but they're incredibly complex, with lots of features we don't

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