Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 30

Point is, the restrictions that you added in the case of the motorway on/offramp was incorrect, it was broken by you at some point. In addition to being broken, there was also a duplicate no_u_turn that was added by you (which was in fact valid). So there is no problem in deleting something

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 28

talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13 (Luke Stewart) > > > -

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

> *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:59 AM > *To: *Anthony Panozzo > *Cc: *Luke Stewart ; > talk-au@openstreetmap.org > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13 > > > > Hi Anthony, > > > > Below is a picture from the South Australian Road Rule

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

point of > view of that picture and back > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Luke Stewart > *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:28 AM > *To: *Anthony Panozzo > *Cc: *Dian Ågesson ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

The intersection shown in mapillary without traffic lights https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=764585334231385=-34.72009104=138.66975917=17=photo would be one where performing a u-turn is allowed. As you go along the mapillary trace, you can even see two different vehicles making u-turns in median

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

"Note 2— *U-turns are permitted at intersections without traffic lights* unless there is a no U-turn sign, even though traffic lane arrows indicate that the driver must or may turn right—see rule 92" On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 08:59, Luke Stewart wrote: > From *legislation.sa

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

>From *legislation.sa.gov.au *: 40: " A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection with traffic lights unless there is a U-turn permitted sign at the intersection." 41: " A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection without traffic lights *if there is a

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Hi, if you look at the intersection you will see that there are 4 valid no_u_turn restrictions in place. Modelling the intersection with diagonals like that is contrary to established practice, but modelling it correctly rendered 45 of the restrictions redundant. Cheers, Luke On Mon, 2 May 2022

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 48

policy > > > > > > > > *From: *Luke Stewart > *Sent: *Saturday, 30 April 2022 9:21 PM > *To: *Anthony Panozzo ; OSM Australian Talk List > > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 48 > > > > "TheSwavu has already said he deleted i

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 48

he first > place? OMG it’s like Im speaking to a bunch of people who all have the same > opinion and wont listen to a word im saying. > > > > > > > > *From: *Luke Stewart > *Sent: *Saturday, 30 April 2022 7:59 PM > *To: *Graeme Fitzpatrick > *Cc: *A

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 48

Edited about 2 months ago by slice0 · Changeset #118293106 Tags restriction no_u_turn type restriction *Members1 memberNode 6357628400 as via* On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 at 20:25, Luke Stewart wrote: > I genuinely can't tell if you are being straightforward with the > community, or attempting to

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 48

I genuinely can't tell if you are being straightforward with the community, or attempting to rouse trouble because it is amusing to you. I guarantee I am not the only one who has this opinion. Several other mappers, including TheSwavu himself, have already provided in-depth explanations of their

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

Hi Graeme, Having downloaded the full relation, the boundary is completely closed and there is nothing wrong with it. It's simply a warning to say that JOSM has not downloaded the whole relation. Unless you right-click > Download members, JOSM only has the tags of the relation and the members

Re: [talk-au] JOSM multipolygon how-to?

Hi Graeme, I'm not sure about a tutorial however, once you click 'create multipolygon', a new relation should appear in the section on the right (if you can't see a box for relations you can select Windows at the top of the screen and make sure that relations is checked). From there you can

Re: [talk-au] Assistance with ongoing disagreement regarding intersections

g my sanity; there are so many I can't have been the only > person to notice. > > Dian > > On 2022-03-04 17:44, Luke Stewart wrote: > > Hi, > > The standard rule and the way that I map is to only begin a new way if > there is some form a physical separation, so extra tu

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Assistance with ongoing disagreement regarding intersections

ld mean doing an illegal lane change. >> >> Are we supposed to worry about that, or not? >> >> Thanks >> >> Graeme >> >> >> On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 19:57, Luke Stewart >> wrote: >> >>> (forgot to x-post to talk-au) >

Re: [talk-au] "Don't split ways if there is no physical separation"

There are many situations in Australia where you are permitted to cross an unbroken white line (for instance, moving to a special purpose lane). The wiki is pretty unambiguous, "where traffic flows are physically separated by a barrier (e.g., grass, concrete, steel), which prevents movements

[talk-au] Fwd: Assistance with ongoing disagreement regarding intersections

(forgot to x-post to talk-au) Hi, The standard rule and the way that I map is to only begin a new way if there is some form a physical separation, so extra turning ways which can be completed with a box but are modelled as curves aren't following this rule (same goes for ways that start when

Re: [talk-au] Strange street type

Could it possibly be Plantation? Cheers, Luke On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Another question re Notes! > > On https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1688984#map=19/-33.93526/116.02726, > the OP commented "Southampton Pltn". > > I asked what that meant & they said it was

Re: [talk-au] train tour

I've added this signal based on imagery, as well as footage from a third-party YouTube channel where we have been given explicit permission to use the footage for mapping. On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:42, Luke Stewart wrote: > My guess would be that it is the reference number for the sig

Re: [talk-au] train tour

My guess would be that it is the reference number for the signal in/near that location... CU - Tallawong station was going to be called Cudgegong Road. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

With their reasons for deletion: "largely they are fragmented, and consist of riding on roads without any dedicated infrastructure" - this is representative of routes across Australia; many routes in Sydney are like this and area just sharrows, however as they are still signposted they are mapped

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by Aaronsta

In regards to the wiki edits, it seems that the tagging for shared and similar paths have been changed by this user without any community discussion. I was of the view that this page was meant to reflect a consensus, in which case these changes should be reverted and discussed. (I was working on

Re: [talk-au] Discord #oceania channel?

Hi Graeme, Discord is a text and voice chat platform, like Slack, Skype, or other platforms. "OpenStreetMap World" is the name of the server, although to my knowledge it isn't "official" in any sense. (some other servers are listed on the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discord).

Re: [talk-au] Discord #oceania channel?

Hi Sam, The channel by default is locked unless you select the oceania role in the #rules-and-roles channel near the top of the list. Once you select that you should be able to view and participate. Cheers, Luke On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 11:31, Sam Wilson wrote: > The recent posts about bus

Re: [talk-au] Use of macrons in name:en

Similar to the case with New Zealand, I would support the use of macrons if they are either official or used on-the-ground in terms of signage etc. Regardless, having a namespace tag for English and Pitjantjatjara is definitely a good idea. On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 04:32, Andrew Harvey wrote: >

[talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

G'day talk-au, Increasingly at major intersections, there has been an effort to improve cyclist safety, which has led to some cycle lanes terminating before the intersection and providing a ramp for cyclists to join a shared path and use push button traffic lights to cross separated from the

Re: [talk-au] TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM

*I'd agree - that's what I thought was going on? I understand shared_lane as when they paint a bike in the leftmost lane of a road, or in the middle of an alley/small residential road.With that said, TfNSW's definition - "On road facility type shared with moving vehicles" - is a lot vaguer, so I

Re: [talk-au] foot/bicycle = yes/designated (was Re: TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM)

My understanding is as follows: yes means that there is the legal right to use something e.g. you have the right to walk by foot on a sidewalk. designated means that there is a legal instrument (generally signage and/or possibly road marking depending on your state) that *specifically* gives you

[talk-au] Mapwithai Roads now available in Australia

Just a heads up that mapwith.ai now works in Australia for adding roads (but not buildings at this stage). Cheers, Luke ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] (NSW) Email Update – Changes to permanent speed limits

Thank you all for your comments. I will send off an email later today to see if we can get a higher level of permission, but I agree that planning a survey is not by nature in violation of any license—seeing copyrighted advertising about a new shop does not mean that surveying that shop is in

[talk-au] (NSW) Email Update – Changes to permanent speed limits

In case you were not aware, there is a bi-monthly service from the NSW government advising when and where new speed limits have been introduced across the state, allowing us to keep our maxspeeds up to date. https://www.saferroadsnsw.com.au/emailupdates.aspx I was considering adding a note to

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

The "local traffic only" sign is not present in the QLD, NSW, or Australian Road Rules legislation, nor is an explanation of what it means. Councils don't have the power to restrict the use of a road to "local traffic" under the Local Government Act, at least as far as I can understand.

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

is not > described here.)" > > Similar to existing "maxspeed:advisory" > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:advisory perhaps if > these aren't legal restrictions but still signposted on the ground we could > use "motor_vehicle:advisory=destination&qu

Re: [talk-au] local traffic only

As far as I have read, these signs are not enforceable by councils, nor do they appear in the NSW (or Australian) Road Rules. So unless the road itself is on private property and this sign is present, the access would still be public and it has the same meaning as discouraging the use of the

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

Also with the boundary only layer you can have the satellite view in full focus whilst also editing without having the other features of the base map such as address, buildings, etc. Cheers, Luke ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

I'm not proposing to import the boundaries into the database, only showing up as an overlay in the editor. Whether there is a feature there to be mapped along the boundary can of course only be determined by aerial imagery. Cheers, Luke ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 148, Issue 35

Apologies, this was sent in error. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

It would be similar to how the suburb and other overlays currently work--one could see the aerial imagery in the background with the lot boundaries on top. Cheers, Luke ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 148, Issue 35

It would be similar to how the suburb and other overlays currently work--one could see the aerial imagery in the background with the lot boundaries on top. Cheers, Luke ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

ing > those boundaries into OSM right? > > The layers are defined at > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/tree/gh-pages/sources/oceania/au/nsw > . > > On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 11:22, Luke Stewart > wrote: > >> I didn't notice the lot boundaries on the b

Re: [talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

I didn't notice the lot boundaries on the base map but it seems you're right. In which case it would make this proposal redundant. Thank you for pointing that out. Cheers, Luke ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] LPI NSW Lot Boundaries—worthwile to request?

G'day guys, Looking at the sixmaps website they have a lot boundaries overlay which does exactly what it says on the tin. Would it be worthwhile requesting permission to access this? My thoughts are that it could assist with armchair mapping for determining whether a road is for public access or

Re: [talk-au] Facebook RapiD Roads

Whilst I doubt we are the target country, anything that facilities the creation of good map data is beneficial, particularly out in the stix. Also they seem to be using Maxar imagery which seems to be the most up to date across the country, thus it had new housing subdivisions.

[talk-au] Suburban Tunnel at Sydney Central Station

To address the points raised: Until we properly know what is going on, I think they disused would be a better option. access=private seems more appropriate then access=no As far as I have seen, it is an official name for the walkway. Thank you all for your comments—I will update the tags in

[talk-au] Suburban Tunnel at Sydney Central Station

G'day, As of 13/10/19, part of the suburban tunnel at Central station has been closed off of public access due to Metro works ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-33.88344/151.20682). I originally changed the access tag from "customers" to "no" on the affected segments, but am wondering

Re: [talk-au] Newcastle to Ballina Pacific Highway classification

On the 100km/hr speed limit, there are many dual carriageways within and outside that have a 100 limits, including (virtually) the entire ring road and the M4 (NSW speed zone guidelines stipulates that 100km/hr is for urban motorways and 110km/hr for non-built up area motorways or rural divided

Re: [talk-au] Tagging of Aboriginal flag

Was not aware of the wikidata tag. Perfect, thanks ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Tagging of Aboriginal flag

G'day The only flag:type listed in the wiki are national and governmental, and taginfo doesn't show any existing tagging scheme for what I want. Do you think that flag:type=indigenous is appropriate for an Aboriginal flag_pole? Only issue there is that there is no differentiation between