[OSM-talk] [Announce] talk-bd Bangladesh mailing list

2011-01-22 Thread Mike Collinson
country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mailing_lists For details about Bangladesh and mapping activity there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh - Wikipedia http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bangladesh OSM in Bangladesh Mike

[Talk-se] Orebro releases geodata under an ODbL license

2011-01-22 Thread Mike Collinson
http://www.orebro.se/8760.html http://www.epsiplus.net/news/news/orebro_releases_geodata_under_odbl - Commentary in English ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] current license terms

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:10 AM 17/01/2011, Anthony wrote: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1sC0SrG_R6OkRDdC3IJKlmDEn2pYTY2DZfcpSLFdiBBU Latest and greatest: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1jY58fD3JyNUjzmecrpNejoOt4OnfHeEM-6o8rD5hCLY You are indicating that, as far as You know, You have the right

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms upgrade ready

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Collinson
The links below show the wording we will formally release. I will confirm when it is done. We will then set up and announce mechanism whereby anyone who has accepted the 1.0 terms can upgrade, this will be entirely optional. The wording drops one suggested change - the addition of the phrase,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] current license terms

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:19 PM 18/01/2011, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: At 01:10 AM 17/01/2011, Anthony wrote: At what point, if any, does the database become one where OSMF can't switch back to CC-BY-SA without removing data? If 2/3 of active contributors

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms upgrade ready

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Collinson
Olaf, Thanks, it looks like the clean text has been copied from a source other than the diff-marked text. I've deleted it. We are meeting tonight and I'll stop it going live until we double-checked the rest of the text too. Regarding your main concern in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms upgrade ready

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:10 PM 18/01/2011, andrzej zaborowski wrote: With this new version, do you/others think it is OK for people who have previously submitted content on which they received a CC-By-SA + ODbL dual license (taking into account the future license change) to click the accept button? Cheers Me,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April deadline)

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:36 PM 6/01/2011, John Smith wrote: On 7 January 2011 05:25, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Nope. Clause 4 survives any license changes in the future, it is nothing to do with the end user license: 4. At Your or the copyright owner’s holder’s option, OSMF agrees to attribute You

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:28 PM 6/01/2011, John Smith wrote: On 7 January 2011 05:14, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: I almost wish that Tobias Knerr's words earlier in this thread were my own: The Contributor Terms are clearly based on the idea that we are building a database together. It's not just

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April deadline)

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:20 PM 7/01/2011, John Smith wrote: On 7 January 2011 23:56, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: requirement. Since the Australian government, virtually alone, publishes I was under the assumption that the NZ govt, if not many others, published data under the same/similar license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:47 PM 7/01/2011, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz In the case of the UK OS, there is a switch from a potential requirement for level 4 attribution to a clear requirement for level 1, so the Open Government Licence is definitely good news

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence

2011-01-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:47 PM 7/01/2011, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz In the case of the UK OS, there is a switch from a potential requirement for level 4 attribution to a clear requirement for level 1, so the Open Government Licence is definitely good news

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April deadline)

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:32 PM 6/01/2011, John Smith wrote: On 7 January 2011 00:45, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Clause 4 of the new CTs may cover us completely, [it was designed for governmental organisations] and I have updated IMHO, section 4 is useless unless there is some kind of clause stating

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:04 PM 6/01/2011, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Mike Collinson wrote: given that at least one contributor has been pointlessly editing my personal contributions apparently so that they are no longer ODbL-ready, sickly sadly all too possible. That's vandalism, of course. Could you share

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April deadline)

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Collinson
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attributionhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution. Mike At 04:42 PM 6/01/2011, John Smith wrote: Which clause 3 contradicts On 1/7/11, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: At 03:32 PM 6/01/2011, John Smith wrote: On 7 January 2011 00:45, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz

[OSM-legal-talk] UK mapping authority switches to Open Government Licence (was: CTs and the 1 April deadline)

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks Tom, this is excellent news and what the License Working Group was hoping would happen. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/open-government-licence.htmhttp://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/open-government-licence.htm

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:11 PM 5/01/2011, Frederik Ramm wrote: Mike, I have provisionally added Francis' suggested wording but would like to run it by other License Working Group members. It may help NearMap and similar situations. The major change in all this, compared to the earlier versions, is the concept

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Collinson
I have provisionally added Francis' suggested wording but would like to run it by other License Working Group members. It may help NearMap and similar situations. Here is the CT version that we are looking at formally releasing:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-07 Thread Mike Collinson
://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_933xs7nvfbhttp://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_933xs7nvfb and currently released 1.0 text http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms should be diff-marked with colour highlighting and strike-outs. Mike At 07:39 PM 5/12/2010, Mike

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-05 Thread Mike Collinson
Before this thread goes any further,Yes, a cock-up I believe, possibly mine. The un-highlighted text should be the same as CT 1.0. Thank you fx99 for pointing it out. Will investigate. Mike At 03:39 PM 3/12/2010, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Groom wrote: If the OSMF board wish to move

[OSM-legal-talk] Regarding future Contributor Terms upgrades

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Collinson
The License Working Group had a request from a contributor to make a statement to the effect that users who sign up to v1.0 of the Contributor Terms will be allowed to upgrade to future versions. I am now happy to provide such a formal statement: All the rights granted in the new proposed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] We Are Changing The License missing relevant information

2010-10-26 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:42 PM 25/10/2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/25 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: I just answered a user's question on how to accept the new contributor terms. I'll quote his statement here: ''How do we

[OSM-talk] [Announce] lorodux-dev mailing list

2010-10-17 Thread Mike Collinson
For details about LoroDux: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LoroDux Mike Collinson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] If you've missed this ...

2010-10-07 Thread Mike Collinson
My very best to Steve. I've been through this with my own baby, a digital animation company, and it is a bruising experience. I continue to welcome in the OSM community anyone who is lucky enough to be also professionally or entrepreneurially engaged and personally rather hope Steve finds a

[OSM-legal-talk] The ball starts rolling ... Paris City Council to use ODbL

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Collinson
Paris City Council will publish 20 data sets before the end of this year under ODbL 1.0. Members of our own French community and chapitre Creative Commons France [1] (!!) have had involvement in this process. Congratulations to Paris and to them.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Collinson
To come back on topic, I don't think this has made legal-talk yet. Thanks to Jordan Hatcher, whose mail I am re-working: The new UK Open Government Licence is now out: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/open-government-licence.htm

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Voluntary re-licansing and CT 1.1

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Collinson
At 09:03 AM 5/10/2010, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Ed Avis e...@... writes: Perhaps there should be a meta-contributor-terms where you agree to accept future contributor terms proposed by the OSMF. Then there wouldn't be the need to re-ask everybody each time the contributor terms change.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Checking if I understand correctly...

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:58 AM 5/10/2010, Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: The particular issues I believe you have concerns with have also been discussed extensively on this list. You wont be surprised if I say that not everyone agrees with you

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-uy Uruguay mailing list

2010-09-26 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a Spanish-language talk-uy Uruguay-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Francisco, Evan and Gaba for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms review

2010-08-26 Thread Mike Collinson
The License Working Group met Tuesday. Most, if not all, comment at the moment is on the Contributor Terms. Therefore we will devote next week's meeting (Aug 31) entirely to going though each issue already raised. We will then pass these on to legal counsel for review. When we get a response,

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-22 Thread Mike Collinson
Liz, You asked about the early intent of the Contributor Terms before they were re-written by legal counsel. As promised: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes or directly https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1lVQlsnuEKPY2gjspScwHqgmo8RyoqmuaWWmWh58T4TY 0.1

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL?

2010-08-22 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:46 AM 14/08/2010, Rob Myers wrote: On 08/14/2010 07:33 AM, Liz wrote: If you believe, like many data donors, that the attribution must be preserved, then a licence which incorporates the viral provisions is necessary. The ODbL does incorporate attribution. From a given work you can find

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY is compatible with ODbL/CT?

2010-08-22 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:50 PM 22/08/2010, David Groom wrote: Intent: (1) Section 4 always was intended to allow and encourage governmental organisation imports that require attribution under the standard terms without need for derogation. (2) Maintain maximum flexibility for future choices. The license used in

[OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL?

2010-08-14 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:11 AM 13/08/2010, 80n wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:47 PM, David Groom mailto:revi...@pacific-rim.netrevi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: b) Ignoring the Yahoo data, but taking any data that may have had a PD or CC-BY-SA clause that has be used in import, since these are general permissions

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Questions on the Contributors Term

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:02 PM 11/08/2010, David Groom wrote: 2) Where does PD data (mainly TIGER, NHS, NPS, NAIP imagery, USGS imagery) fall with regards to contributor terms, specifically You have **explicit** permission from the rights holder to submit the Contents and grant the licence below?' The general

[OSM-talk] Voluntary re-licensing begins

2010-08-12 Thread Mike Collinson
As promised, and long awaited, the next phase of the OSM License Upgrade has arrived. Phase 2 - Existing Contributor Voluntary Re-licensing [1] has begun, and you may indicate your acceptance of the new Contributor Terms for your existing OSM API account. To accept the terms visit

[OSM-legal-talk] License Change - moving forward

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Collinson
What ifs, what ifs. The key is clearly to reduce these. So, in summary, we'll proceed with a voluntary program of sign-up for the new OpenStreetMap Contributor Terms [1]. Those that simply want to get on and accept that we won't doing anything daft can sign up.Those that are worried about

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Change - moving forward

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:16 PM 10/08/2010, Brian Quinion wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: If you support the share-alike concept, I urge you to accept the new Contributor Terms which provides for a coherent Attribution, Share-Alike license written especially

[OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 July 9th - 11th Last Call

2010-07-03 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:12 AM 2/07/2010, Mike Collinson wrote: Europeans, why sit at home and watch your team get beaten by the Brazilians? Switch off the TV and immediately follow these steps: Well of course what I meant to say was the Argentines, ... er, no I didn't. Slick marketing was never my strong point

[OSM-talk] Es Official! El Songa SOTM Mundial!

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Collinson
Oh, this year I'm off to sunny Spain, Que viva mi mappa! I'm taking the Barcelona plane, [1] Que viva Espana! Then on to a local train [2] Que viva el RENFE (renfay)! Check into a hotel or aparta-mento [3] Que viva Girona! If you've not been to SOTM herefore Es un buen con-ferencia! [4] Da Me

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates on NCN routes

2010-06-23 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:48 PM 23/06/2010, Andy Sinclair wrote: What is the recommended way to identify gates on a cycle route? Is barrier=gate sufficient, or do I need to add other information regarding access? That is all I use at the moment, though sometimes putting bicycle=yes, foot=yes,motorcar=no ... when

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org up

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Collinson
Thank you, Tom and anyone else involved in working on this. Much appreciated as always. And, to quote, Richard Weait, http://donate.openstreetmap.org/;. Mike At 06:44 PM 15/06/2010, Grant Slater wrote: OSM Talk, Website and API is now up and running again after earlier issues. Happy mapping.

[OSM-talk] Calling all bulk importers

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Collinson
Hi, If you have been involved in bulk import of data from third-parties, may I ask you to check that this is on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Cataloguehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue . Why? Now we have final versions of everything, the License Working Group is

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Proposed human readable contributor terms

2010-05-19 Thread Mike Collinson
Comments in-line. At 06:14 PM 19/05/2010, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 16:42, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Great idea, thanks for taking the initiative on this. I had a go with your text and the underlying ideas we used to construct the terms below

[OSM-legal-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
I am pleased to announce that we went live today with new contributor terms, for NEW contributors and we already have contributors signed up. OpenStreetMap has NOT yet moved to the new license. A copy of the terms can be viewed here,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:23 PM 12/05/2010, Jochen Topf wrote: This contains: You hereby grant to OSMF a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable license to do any act that is restricted by copyright over anything within the Contents Why is such as blanket license necessary? This puts the OSMF

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:28 PM 12/05/2010, Tom Hughes wrote: On 12/05/10 16:23, Jochen Topf wrote: This puts the OSMF in a unique position to undermine the whole project. If somebody subverts the OSMF, he can do whatever he wants with the data. I don't think its a good idea to expose the OSMF to even the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New OSM contributor licensing under ODbL and CC-BY-SA started today

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Collinson
At 04:37 PM 12/05/2010, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Now saying new contributors have to agree to the CC-By-SA and ODbL is a little unprecise. I thought that was the case based on the two mail announcements sent today, but it's the Contributor Terms, not ODbL based on what Avar reports. I may be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM content on locked platforms

2010-04-05 Thread Mike Collinson
Interesting, the CC BY SA quote does rather suggest that such an application is not CC BY SA compliant. Two linked observations almost lead me to believe that the closed nature of a platform is irrelevant, what is important is the effort made by the individual developer to keep data/images

[OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Conference Early-Bird registration ends Wednesday

2010-03-25 Thread Mike Collinson
at http://stateofthemap.org/register-now/ and I look forward to seeing you there, Mike Collinson http://stateofthemap.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath numbering

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Collinson
And I discovered something interesting that may be applicable countrywide. A member of the Ramblers Association kindly made a definitive footpath map for me in the 1970s - hand-inked on the Otley and Ilkley OS 1:25000 sheets. As I recall, this was around the time the original PRoW survey was

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Import of Korea from Yahoo

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Jonas, Getting in touch with the user courteously is certainly the best start. Andrew Errington, CC'd, hosts talk-ko and may also be able to help. If first steps do not resolve, the OSMF Foundation's Data Working Group [1] can provide help. Most or all are members of this list anyway. Mike

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_48c4sgs3d4 shows where we are at. We've one open question about natural person below that we would appreciate input on. Apart from that, this is the version we would like to finalise on and which has had

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms latest

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks Oliver. We have a separate project to look at general terms of use of OSM and OSMF websites where this certainly is an issue. These Contributor Terms are strictly for the addition of geodata. We have not been advised it has been an issue but it will do no harm to check explicitly if

[OSM-legal-talk] Translations of Contributor Terms

2010-02-16 Thread Mike Collinson
When the new Contributor Terms are really complete (not yet) we will need Italian and French translations pretty fast in accordance with the laws of those countries for the original version to be in native language. We have a couple of avenues that may help us with that but nothing finalised

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Number of active contributors

2010-02-16 Thread Mike Collinson
At 11:41 PM 15/02/2010, Hal Bertram wrote: On 15/02/10 09:25, Jukka Rahkonen wrote An active contributor is defined as: a contributor (whether using a single or multiple accounts) who has edited the Project in any 3 calendar months from the last 6 months (i.e. there is a demonstrated

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms draft changes

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Collinson
We are wanting to introduce dual-licensing for *new* registrants as soon as we have the new Contributor Terms nailed down. That means a final review of the current wording by legal counsel and then I'll ask for any last(?) comments from this list. We've made some changes in order to try and

[Talk-GB] Early Irish maps now online at National Archives

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Collinson
If you just like looking at maps: Early Irish maps from State Papers c.1558 - c.1610 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/irishmaps.asp Mike ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] New OSM GeoData License Status

2010-02-09 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is an update from the License Working Group. We feel we've reached a reasonable community consensus to move forward carefully based on results from the OSMF member vote and from the general community poll (below). At the moment, we are trying to address some concerns raised by OSM and

Re: [talk-ph] Mapping Orani Bataan

2010-01-03 Thread Mike Collinson
At 09:28 AM 2/01/2010, Jing Iya wrote: Narcky and I are planning to map the whole of Orani, Bataan. ... Wish me luck guys. Sounds great. More good luck from me! And a Happy New Year to all, Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Grauniad top 100 websites

2009-12-10 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:29 PM 10/12/2009, Bob Kerr wrote: Openstreetmap made the Guardians top 100 again this year. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/09/best-websites-internet Cheers Bob A rights-free map created by people like you. Remarkably detailed and precise. I wonder if we can, er, borrow

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 12:28 AM 7/12/2009, Simon Ward wrote: I’ve received the mail, answered the poll, and also the preference poll. In the preference poll, I understand the term “viral license” but ask that people refrain from using that term: It has the implication that it is a bad thing - it may be in some

Re: [OSM-talk] Opinion poll about the new licence Odbl 1.0

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 09:24 PM 6/12/2009, morb@beagle.com.au wrote: Quoting Anthony o...@inbox.org: Part of me suspects that this whole notion of removing contributions from people who don't agree is going to get dropped. At least for the contributors who don't respond one way or the other. It's just going

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-06 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:26 PM 5/12/2009, Ian Dees wrote: On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: If you are an OSMF member then you should have received an email about this vote, which contains a URL with which you can access this site. If you have not received an email, first please

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-06 Thread Mike Collinson
perspective and in the heart of technical intellectual property land. Hope that helps, Mike Collinson OSMF License Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ve Venezuela mailing list

2009-11-27 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-ve Venezuela-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Rafael for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

[OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather quiet. Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009, we have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on track to make our final formal license change proposal to OSMF

Re: [Talk-GB] What's in a name

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:19 PM 15/09/2009, Chris Hill wrote: I live near Hull, its proper name of course is Kingston upon Hull. It has the long name on the map, but everyone knows it as Hull. I think it would be better to use the shorter name and adding the long name as alt_name. Any comments? Cheers, Chris

Re: [talk-ph] Province place nodes

2009-09-14 Thread Mike Collinson
state is the Map Features tag value for states, provinces and roughly synonomous high-level national subdivisions. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dstate FYI, editing them is real easy with XAPI. The following is a bounding box for the Philippines. It will download a file that

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-10 Thread Mike Collinson
highway=cycleway foot=yes cycleway=separated (not a Map Features value) I acknowledge a personal bias towards mapping for cyclists, others will disagree. My rationale is: As a cyclist, I am looking for cycleways on the map. As a pedestrian, I'd like to know if I can got for a nice quiet meander

Re: [OSM-talk] Awards

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Collinson
At 16:33 21/08/2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/21 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Â Â I just stumpled across this list of awards that Wikipedia seem to have for their contributors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Service_awards One part of me finds them funny, and

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Collinson
Bit late but punch Big Banana into the slippy map name finder. I saw Big Banana on a map in the early '80s and just had to drive there to see what was. Well, it was just that. Awe inspiring as bananas go but no explanatory sign, nothing else. Now it is a developed tourist facility. Mike

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OPENSTREETMAP FOUNDATION - NOTICE OF ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:20 AM 16/08/2009, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote: ... Do you and Steve have any comment on Richard Weait's suggestion that from every commercial organisation, at most one person should be a member of the OSMF board

[Talk-se] 5th Sept: OSM birthday celebration and Stockholm Mini-Mapping Party

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Collinson
OpenStreetMap is now five years old. To celebrate, may I invite anyone in the Stockholm area or indeed any OSM mappers in Sweden to my house on 5th September. Barbecue outside unless raining. My house is here, number 7:

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:20 PM 7/08/2009, OJ W wrote: sidewalks in villages - what to do? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.172898lon=-0.524788zoom=18 are they footpaths or are they road attributes? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Footway A corollary but very important issue is

Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter

2009-08-07 Thread Mike Collinson
The dilemma for for us at the main OSM Foundation is that by setting up local chapters, our main reliable source of funding, the annual subscriptions that members pay, may no longer come in directly. Much of that money is spent on computer hardware to keep our sites up, and a proportion on

Re: [talk-ph] some osm-ph stats (20090729)

2009-08-07 Thread Mike Collinson
At 02:06 AM 7/08/2009, maning sambale wrote: 3. Local contributors have overtaken Mike Collinson's contributions. Hehehe. I think Mike would love that to happen. Although 95% of total ways and nodes are from the top 20 contributors. I think 80-20 would be ideal. Yeah! No worries here! The

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-alps - European Alps mailing list

2009-08-02 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-alps mailing list. This is for mapping parties, topics and general discussion for anyone mapping in the European Alps. This is experiment for a multi-language list for discussion in Italian, French, German, Slovenian, Romanche and, oh, may be English too. If it does not

Re: [talk-ph] request for flickr map to use OSM in Manila and Davao

2009-08-01 Thread Mike Collinson
Excellent. The guy who put together the code that flips from Yahoo map tiles to OSM ones for certain parts of the world gave a talk at SOTM 2009. They host the tiles themselves and do not update them often. Since Flickr is partly or wholly owned by Yahoo, he admitted that they were not

Re: [OSM-talk] Vanishing buildings

2009-07-15 Thread Mike Collinson
Thanks for looking at this ... I put in most of those buildings. There also deletions like the carparks in Centralplan which have been ground-truthed so I don't think this is a properly planned edit. The easiest way should be to use Potlatch U (show deleted ways) and H (show history and has a

[Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-15 Thread Mike Collinson
I don't know whether this has been explored before, but a tit-bit from Bob Barr who gave a SOTM key note last year and enjoyed himself so he came again. Bob is councillor in ?Warrington and once asked all the councils in the greater Manchester area for boundary data. All supplied him

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC; C = Cool

2009-07-08 Thread Mike Collinson
At 00:06 08/07/2009, Russ Nelson wrote: On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:53 PM, SteveC wrote: On 7 Jul 2009, at 23:26, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: After the years of iterations don't you think it sucks that your simple easy REST-based model is now made so difficult in 0.6? Mozart had

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-lv Latvia mailing list

2009-07-07 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-lv Latvia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Gints Polis for initiating and hosting this forum! Mike For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping Party report

2009-07-06 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:03 PM 6/07/2009, Marloue Pidor wrote: We're on the process of incorporating the PIOs into OSM. It a success next stop is Island Garden City of Samal (Samal Island) the resort island of Davao del Norte. Well, it is just a plan :) Congrats. Next stop a resort island? Its tough but

Re: [talk-ph] RFC: additional tags for amenity=banks

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
I think that sounds excellent. The tagging scheme is applicable globally and to not just banks but any retail activity. Mike At 03:37 AM 29/06/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following additional tags for bank POIs: amenity=bank name=Bank of the Philippines

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] accessibility mailing list

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
Following the success of similar German-language mailing lists, there is now an accessibility mailing list for topics on all kinds of disabilities and things like navigation on mobile devices and tactile maps. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and

[OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
A really important poetry event that I almost forgot about. SOTM 2009 is almost with us and over 200 people coming. 201 if you have forgotten to register. Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of the Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-06-28 Thread Mike Collinson
At 03:57 PM 26/06/2009, Peter Miller wrote: My concern here is to try to avoid creating an interesting target for 'carpet baggers' who may wish to 'privatise' OSM in the way that the mutual building societies were privatised in the past ten years in the UK.

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-vi Vietnam mailing list

2009-06-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-vi Vietnam-specific mapping parties, topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Ivan Garcia for initiating and hosting this forum. The Philippines now has a great map of Manila and recently had a very successful mapping party on nearby Tagaytay so it is

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-tn Tunisia mailing list

2009-06-24 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-tn Tunisia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Chedli Ghedira for initiating and hosting this forum. Mike For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see

Re: [Talk-GB] UK-specific tagging for rural feature names?

2009-06-21 Thread Mike Collinson
At 01:53 PM 21/06/2009, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello Mike, I made one boo-boo: natural=moor should be place=moor as it is really an administrative designation. The examples in the database are place=moor. Mike Isn't a moor a natural feature though, like a heath, etc? That is what I thought

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM data grant

2009-06-19 Thread Mike Collinson
At 06:00 PM 18/06/2009, Russ Nelson wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: Yes, but your result has to be licensed under the CC-By-SA, which means that in principle, somebody could republish your composition. In practice, nobody has complained about

[Talk-GB] UK-specific tagging for rural feature names?

2009-06-19 Thread Mike Collinson
Just catching up on my talk-GB email and was looking at Nick's nice new free-map. Ilkley Moor is on, so it is clearly Ideologically Sound. Thanks Nick. The Yorkshire moors look very empty though. There is a whole wealth of detail that can be added from NPE and local knowledge. Many

Re: [Talk-GB] UK-specific tagging for rural feature names?

2009-06-19 Thread Mike Collinson
I made one boo-boo: natural=moor should be place=moor as it is really an administrative designation. The examples in the database are place=moor. Mike At 05:22 PM 19/06/2009, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello Mike, Just catching up on my talk-GB email and was looking at Nick's nice new free-map.

Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Collinson
shop=vulcanizing +1 The shop tag is for any retail product or service. When we were debating its format, it seemed while there is a smallish set of natural core values like shop=supermarket, the larger set has to be tailored to individual countries' needs and cultures. Mike At 07:19 AM

Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:46 AM 17/06/2009, maning sambale wrote: Just curious is this just a pinoy thing (vulcanizing)? Or we havesimilar shops like this in other countries. A Pinoy thing! ... I must admit when I first came to the Philippines I had to ask what it meant though I now understand it is the proper

[Talk-GB] How to tag floating duck islands?

2009-05-23 Thread Mike Collinson
Has anyone mapped this one yet? http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/web/mps-duck-island-folly-exposed-on-google-earth/2009/05/22/1242498910263.html Mike Caveat: My lawyer only allowed me to post this if I point out that as the data is from Google Earth, we cannot use it in OpenStreetMap.

Re: [talk-ph] adding place reference to a POI

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:43 AM 21/05/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, Some GPS/data contributor (not osm contributor), suggested I add place reference to POI like in the name tag Jollibee (Morato) or Jollibee-Morato something. Adding this should allow referencing of POI names in GPS units. However, we have an

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - place=sea, ocean, archipelago

2009-05-21 Thread Mike Collinson
Here are three proposals for identifying high level marine features that I already use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ocean http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sea http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Archipelago Comments on each

[OSM-talk] 50 Days to SOTM 2009

2009-05-20 Thread Mike Collinson
If you are coming, you can twitter, email or shout about SOTM, using this new neat little link: http://bit.ly/2TDMvPhttp://bit.ly/2TDMvP ... or click it to register your place now. Mike State Of The Map 2009 The 3rd International OpenStreetMap Conference Amsterdam, July 10th-12th 209

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