Hi,
In theory competition drives functionality improvements, although in
this case it's not clear if this happened. Any map based website that
doesn't include a permalink option isn't worth using, Unless it's been
recently added is very well hidden OSMR hasn't this option.
OSRM has the
As a result of some miss communication I stopped reading the email
before the wall of text ended.
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Hi,
I think we have to face it: The approach of allowing the user to add
anything to the map and later fix it has failed. I strongly believed in
it for the longest time. But I don't any more. We have to have stronger
guarantees in the data structures and more checks in editors and in
the
Hi,
4. There are concerns that iD (and thus osm.org http://osm.org) will
promote Facebook and Twitter, over other social networks.
The problem I have with those big share buttons is not that they promote
Facebook or Twitter over G+ or other sites but that the (hopefully soon
default)
Hi,
It is very common for a mailing list to offer the unsubscribe link in
the footer.
Is there a reason to not adding the link to the footer ?
The list already adds a link to the listinfo page which already contains
the option To unsubscribe from talk, get a password reminder, or change
Hi,
... or does this map look like an older Texas osmarender layer
screenshot plus a tilt-shift blur added?
http://www.wm.com/contact-us.jsp
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=29.75507lon=-95.36237zoom=17layers=O
It does. Especially the oneway arrows are quite distinct (and I
Hi,
... or does this map look like an older Texas osmarender layer
screenshot plus a tilt-shift blur added?
http://www.wm.com/contact-us.jsp
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=29.75507lon=-95.36237zoom=17layers=O
It does. Especially the oneway arrows are quite distinct (and I
Hi,
Am I missing something here...? People are complaining about how bogged
down and slow the current service is, so its being re-written in java?
Is there any language slower or more resource intensive than java? If
the service isnt designed to be portable (it only runs on one system
Hi,
For simple map calls there is TRAPI[1]. As far as I know, TRAPI performs
much better on map (bbox) queries than either the main-API, XAPI or ROMA (on
equivalent hardware). Rather than using a database, I think it used a
pre-tiled file structure, so that it simple needs to peace together
Hi,
Other than the one you get by clicking Map Key on the left hand side
of the map you mean?
Try doing that when osmarender or the cyclemap layers are displayed
Exactly - the technology is there. It just needs somebody to provide the
images.
Following a similar discussion in september 2009
Hi,
Hmm, I didn't realize we did that. I thought that would count as
'tagging
for the renderer' - after all wouldn't Mapnik be capable of finding both
names and printing both on the map?
Perhaps it could.
Does the 'on the ground rule' not give guidance here?
Who says that is doesn't apply?
Hi all,
I know this first hand. Many (if not most or all) of the key people
in OSM are feeling drained, distracted and upset. Some are talking of
hiatus or resign. These are the key people who write code, build
things, maintain things and run our working groups.
I'm not sure if I (still)
Hi,
While others are afraid to contribute to the discussion because of the heat.
I think the Australians have a good point about the contributor terms and
loss of data, but I'm not going to get involved and risk being labeled a
poisonous person for agreeing with them.
There is a big
Hi,
There is a big difference between pointing out the current form of the
contributor terms means that we will loose 80% of the data in Australia.
Do you really want to proceed? and jumping into every thread and
spreading FUD that has been dissected and disproved several times by
different
Hi,
No matter if the claim is 10% or 100% it should be made and it should be
heard.
Without more details about contributor intent we are left to speculate...
True. But I think we both agree that it is a valid point that should be
discussed and handled (hopefully in a manner to minimize data
Hi,
in looking at the maxspeed page, i see that in going from mph to
km/h, rounding is always down. can someone speak to why that choice
was made?
If you stick to _that_ value, you are legally save. If you go at the
limit calculated from round to the closest integer you might be going
Hi all,
judging from
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:ВикиПроект_Россия/Голосования/Государственная_тайна
(see http://tinyurl.com/2cx9v9h for english version) and
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=6905p=3 (see
http://tinyurl.com/327ooaa) the Russian make a second attempt to
Hi all,
Is there a reason why Mapnik's rendering of leisure=marina has change
from a blue area to a dashed border line?
IIRC there was a discussion in #osm which basically went like this:
Does leisure=marina cover the land portion or the water portion of the
marina
hm, well don't know. wiki
Hi,
IIRC there was a discussion in #osm which basically went like this:
Which forum do you mean by #osm?
The IRC channel #osm in the oftc network. (The one mentioned in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC#IRC)
HTH,
Patrick Petschge Kilian
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Hi all,
Is there a reason why Mapnik's rendering of leisure=marina has change
from a blue area to a dashed border line?
IIRC there was a discussion in #osm which basically went like this:
[..]
ok lets make it a blue dashed line and see who complains.
Count me as a complainer... I was
Hi all,
If there is something in the Russian DB that their government wants us
to remove, then we should remove it. Otherwise it could escalate to
the point where they block osm.org, or even have an edit war between
us and hackers employed by the KGB^H^H^H Russian Intelligence. The
entities
Hi,
Many of the administrative boundaries in my area follow roads (or vice
versa). (E.g. http://osm.org/go/Zcll6ubE?layers=B000TTF ) It seems
like the TIGER import has a separate list of nodes for the two ways
(one administrative and one road), but the nodes are at identical
locations.
Hi,
Walking isn't just about long-distance stuff.
Being able to say: x is my starting point and I have [10|30|60mins|...]
and I am [slow as a snail|average|running from mad mappers], please take
me on a circular route that avoids busy roads, goes through nice parks,
maybe goes to places
Hi,
This is exactly the reason why I advocate reusing existing, proved,
known technology :
OpenStreetBugs
that has already been tried in crisis situation (see wiki/Task)
and which just needs a new NAME
As per your request there is a dedicated OSB instance for haiti
available at
Hi all,
I did another try with osmarender, as the 22 MByte OSM file I
exported in parts via josm might be inconsistent somehow.
So I took the larger whole-Haiti (80MByte,
http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/2010-01-17-02-44.osm.bz2 ) file to let
it render, but it took 2 Gigs of RAM and after
Hi all,
I just ran osmarender on the haiti dump and generated a 24MB svg file
with haiti in the z17 style. Should I upload it somewhere for you? Or
should I rasterize it first? Should I use another stylefile?
Hey thanks, man, this is highly appreciated!
The stylesheet stuff could be good
Hi all,
Based on the data here :
https://www.geoint-online.net/community/haitiearthquake/default.aspx
of the US Census Bureau, I extracted the city and town borders for
Haiti.
The tags I used are :
is_in=name of the district
name=*
boundary=administrative
admin_level=8
source=US
Hi all,
Maybe I've missed it but is there any page that's easily accessable
to OSM outsiders about the Haiti mapping efforts? This page is full of
info but intimidating:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#Mapping_the_earthquake_area
I'd really like to see
Hi all,
But I don't know yet how to perform mass edits to correct such
typo... Can anyone do that - and tell us how it is done ?
I think I've fixed it. Using http://www.petschge.de/osm/fixme_haiti/
and JOSM. No conflicts when uploading, 14xx objects changed.
Looks good. Only 4
Hi,
I didn't expect that my previous question would make such a great
fuss.
I didn't aim to hit you personally. Your email was just the straw which
broke my composure.
Since I now volunteered for implementing an icon for
amenity=veterinary, I couldn't get my mind off the icon itself today.
Hi,
please not that I speak only for osmarender as other renderers are
maintained by other people.
The following is basically a rant. So don't get mad at me or take
the following personally.
rant
You mapped something? great
You checked the wiki for tags to model the reality with? ok
You whine
Hi all,
And, thinking about it a bit, I guess the proper rule is that (10,
10) - (30, 30) passes through (20, 20), since it's completely
unrealistic to assume that the basic renderers will do otherwise.
And this is where you are wrong. On zoomlevel 0 (one tile for the whole
earth) (10,10)
Hi,
THAT depends on your definition of straight line.
I suppose, but it'd have to be a pretty contrived definition of
straight line to be equivalent to Spherical Mercator, would it not?
I think that line that are straight in mercator projections are
loxodroms. But I'm not 100% sure about
Hi,
I think that there was someone on IRC a while ago pointing out the name
of a natural reserve on the South African mainland which was rendered
way out west on the water.
This happens with postcode boundaries too, due to the irregular shape
the name renders outside of them some times.
Hi,
Someone fixed my request to render leisure=dog_park on osmarender,
but neither the node nor the areas are visible on the map.
The someone was me. It most likly doesn't appear yet because most
clients haven't updated yet.
My suggested icon attached with the ticket, was for the nodes (POI)
Hi all,
I live in the United States. I can do whatever the heck I want with the
OSM database. Now you want me to agree to a contract limiting those
rights. So I'll ask again: What's in it for me?
My data. The streets I mapped. The trails I mapped. The POIs I mapped.
The Indonesian islands
I live in the United States. I can do whatever the heck I want
with the OSM database. Now you want me to agree to a contract
limiting those rights. So I'll ask again: What's in it for me?
My data. The streets I mapped. The trails I mapped. The POIs I
mapped. The Indonesian islands I
Hi all,
Just to bring to the group's notice. I added a few mountain passes a
couple of days ago along with the hiking trails and waypoints
When I now check on OSM, while the trails are there along with the
waypoints, the passes are missing. However, when I download data from
OSM using
Hi,
What exactly, in your opinion, should the talk list be used for
exactly, now that everything has been branched off to it's own list?
From a quick scan through the last couple of months, perhaps stuff
like: feeds, Software Freedom Day, GPS in planes, 35 servers from
Wikimedia
Hi,
I need any style file for osmarender (osmarender.xsl) by
walkin-papers.org print style or fine-line style from cloudmade.
I suspect that both use mapnik and not osmarender for rendering the map.
The stylefiles are not compatible between the two renderers. Therefore I
fear you have to either
Hi all,
Hereby I would like to announce that YOURS now has the capability to use
the long awaited via points (waypoints) in a route. The code for this
feature has been contributed by Philip Homburg. Web design is still rather
crude, but that will hopefully improve over time.
Very cool
Hi all,
Mapnik already support this,see:
http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/24849/
But production osmarender not yet:
http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.6758lon=15.9996zoom=12layers=0B00FTF
What's the problem with osmarender patch?
The problem is that neither bobkare nor I really can
Hi,
The sport of curling has been ignored by OSM for too long. I've made a
set of icons for curling rinks. k:sport; v:curling can now have the
dignity it deserves.
http://weait.com/content/curling-icon
Would somebody please commit these to svn?
Commited to osmarender as r13685.
Hi all,
Mapnik already support this,see:
http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/24849/
But production osmarender not yet:
http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.6758lon=15.9996zoom=12layers=0B00FTF
What's the problem with osmarender patch?
The problem is that neither bobkare nor I really can
Hi,
The sport of curling has been ignored by OSM for too long. I've made a
set of icons for curling rinks. k:sport; v:curling can now have the
dignity it deserves.
http://weait.com/content/curling-icon
Would somebody please commit these to svn?
Commited to osmarender as r13685.
Hi,
The last days the administrative boundaries have been disappearing and
re-appearing on the t...@h tiles on new renderings, and now it seems like
they're not re-appearing anymore. Can this be looked into?
This in an intentional change in the stylesheets for some zoom levels.
Please have a
Hi,
I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would
be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the
database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person.
Has there been any development on this or is OSB still just as closed?
AFAIK
Hi,
It would be nice if we could decide on one solution instead of
implementing two competing ones. So, it would be good to have a look at
the advantages and disadvantages of a bugzilla and a rails-port
solution and decide then which one fits best. Perhaps which should also
ask the software
Hi,
We should stop the game now. All the people who like the Map
Features page should say something about this edit war even if they
don't care about smoothness. I really feel disappointed.
Agreed. It needs to stop, people need to discuss the issue here instead.
Is the feature used? Then,
Hi all,
I just implemented a new maplint test to check for tiger:reviewed=no
tags. Currently it would generate notices (shown in yellow) because lots
of objects are going to be highlighted by this test and I don't want to
obscure other warnings. The new test can be seen at
Hi all,
I just implemented a new maplint test to check for tiger:reviewed=no
tags. Currently it would generate notices (shown in yellow) because lots
of objects are going to be highlighted by this test and I don't want to
obscure other warnings. The new test can be seen at
Hi all,
As of revison 12060 maplint supports
noname=yes for residential roads and POIs as well as
validate:empty-tag-value
validate:bridge-or-tunnel-without-layer
validate:motorway-without-ref
validate:place-of-worship-without-religion
validate:poi-without-name
Hi,
to disable specific tests. If other variants (like unnamed=yes) or
other namespaces for annotations (like the internal namespace) show
up prominently enough I'll update maplint again to support those
tags too.
I think, we, as validation tools developpers/maintainer, have a
Hi,
noname and validate are not really the same thing. noname say that
something does not have a name. The validate namespace is a lot more
universal in its goal.
Exact, but I was making a comparisson between
* higwhay=residential
* noname=yes
and
* higwhay=residential
*
Hi,
Patrick Kilian wrote:
validate:empty-tag-key
validate:empty-tag-value
validate:untagged-way
validate:bridge-or-tunnel-without-layer
validate:deprecated-tags
validate:motorway-without-ref
validate:place-of-worship-without-religion
validate:poi-without-name
validate:residential
Hi,
From my point of view internal=noname and noname=yes both tell me that
the street has no name. validate:residential-without-name=ignore tell's
the validator not to highlight the fact that there is no name.
Then we have the same definition.
Good.
But I want a _consistent_ way to do that
Hi,
If you can spend the time to find good names for the individual option
(and merge say residential-without-name and poi-without-name to noname)
and do all the stuff in the wiki, I'm certainly not opposed to change
the naming in maplint. If we can reach consensus in this way and have
tags
Hi,
I prefer the second because it makes a street having no name and having no
sign with a name impossible.
( If find them exclusives, since if there is no name, there can't be a name
sign, or else there is an error)
But if some people thing it should be possible, then I'll propose the
Hi all,
I want to propose a technically clean way to deal with unnamed streets
and other false positives of the maplint checks.
The patch at http://www.petschge.de/osm/ignore-tags/maplint.patch
modifies the maplint checks to suppress the warning / error if a tag
with validate:$testname=ignore is
Hi all,
in the last couple if days the discussion of a POI layer appeared again.
With the new server we should have enough disk space to store such a
layer and I'm willing to resurrect the old stylesheets / create new
stylesheets for that layer. But since I'm not scratching my own itch
here
Hi,
Whoops, looks like we are working on the same thing, with same goal and
almost
the same method
Looks like you want to formalize the note=* thing a bit. Which is a good
think.
I guess the patch could be expanded to not expect a name for
internal:noname=yes. Alternativly you could exclude
Hi all,
see http://www.petschge.de/osm/ignore-tags/noname.patch for a dead
simple non-extensible alternative which only supports noname=yes.
Patrick Petschge Kilian
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Hi,
Can data from GPS base camp (gpsbasecamp.com) be used in OSM?
It might be technically possible, but it is most likely illegal.
The site has state and national park data formatted in GPX XML.
Would be nice to have those, but the people who uploaded their files to
gpsbasecamp.com only made
Hi,
What would cause these roads not to render?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.9455lon=-87.7344zoom=13layers=0B00FTF
That one looks a lot like the missing stripes bug. That bug should
have been fixed by Dirk Stöcker on 21.10. Either the bug is not totally
gone, or the person who rendered
Hi,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ickogg/diary/3606
Hope this isn't the start of something messy :-(
Unfortunately there is more:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/fresnikors/diary/3603
Patrick Petschge Kilian
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Hello,
I decided to give the correct display of religious symbols a shot. As a
first step I created icons for the graveyards of the different religions
and to extend the osm.xml file.
The png icons were generated from higher resolutions bitmap files (sorry
no svg (at least not yet)) which I
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