On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21:44PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Another thing one could to if public messaging does not find favour is
posting a caveat immediately over the write message text area,
something along the lines of if you're about to criticize someone whom
you don't know, think
Simon Ward wrote:
There could always be a gentle reminder when reading messages that:
* There’s a wiki;
* there are several mailing lists
(with links, of course) where you can check and discuss things. You may
also want to have “report offensive message” (though that seems a bit
Hi,
Tom Hughes wrote:
I know this because the absolutely vast, exceedingly non gentle, four
language reminder about using the web site to reply rather than email is
ignored by large numbers of people every day.
That's a very clear sign that we did something wrong by implementing
half of
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to ask for a quick show of hands on the idea of making the
whole built-in OSM messaging system public (not retroactively of course,
but change it so that anyone can ready any message written in the
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Nic Roets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* When a person signs up to OSM, ask him a few multiple choice questions to
make sure he has the mastered the basics.
I think the barrier for entry for OSM is already too high, just
signing up probably deters a lot of useful
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Nic Roets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* When a person signs up to OSM, ask him a few multiple choice questions
to
make sure he has the mastered the basics.
I think the barrier
I don't understand the direction of this thread. Frederik is talking
about old users protecting their area agains newcomers, not about
new users making possible mistakes. This happens through
intimidation through the private messaging system.
I'm also against making everything public. As already
Um it sounds like we need a system to report abuse rather than just
making it public?
On 23 Nov 2008, at 13:21, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to ask for a quick show of hands on the idea of making
the
whole built-in OSM messaging system public (not retroactively of
course,
On 24/11/2008 15:41, SteveC wrote:
Um it sounds like we need a system to report abuse rather than just
making it public?
+1
If someone is being intimidated in private, how much more intimidating
would it be if done in public.
David
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On 24/11/2008 08:38, Tom Hughes wrote:
There could always be a gentle reminder when reading messages that:
* There’s a wiki;
* there are several mailing lists
I can tell you right now that a gentle reminder will have very little
effect.
I know this because the absolutely vast,
David Earl wrote:
If you send a message out from the website send-a-message with a random
token in it somewhere (e.g. reply-to:
token@privatemail.openstreetmap.com, or subject: bla bla [token], or
in the message-id, so you can see any reply is a reply to a web-site
originated message,
I would like the see the messaging system open to the API, so that,
for example, you can directly message someone via an editor or
something about a particular map element. So mapping queries / advice
would be public, and accessible from multiple areas. This would be be
best suited to a public
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
Tom Hughes wrote:
I know this because the absolutely vast, exceedingly non gentle, four
language reminder about using the web site to reply rather than email is
ignored by large numbers of people every day.
That's a very clear sign that we
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a very clear sign that we did something wrong by implementing
half of an email system ;-) maybe we should drop that kind of user
messaging and just configure a mailer to forward
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to the appropriate
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Matt Amos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a very clear sign that we did something wrong by implementing
half of an email system ;-) maybe we should drop that kind of user
messaging and just
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:41:41AM -0800, SteveC wrote:
Um it sounds like we need a system to report abuse rather than just
making it public?
I'm with that, and mentioned it already. Who should get sent abuse
reports?
Simon
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A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved
Hi,
Simon Ward wrote:
Um it sounds like we need a system to report abuse rather than just
making it public?
I'm with that, and mentioned it already. Who should get sent abuse
reports?
We could create a mailing list where these are simply dumped, and anyone
who cares to work on these
On 06:15:03, Matt Amos did write:
i'm in favour of removing this functionality entirely. and the user
diaries too. there are open, well-written and (relatively) bug-free
versions of these sorts of software which we should integrate instead.
we could move the diaries to wordpress blogs and
Hi,
I'd like to ask for a quick show of hands on the idea of making the
whole built-in OSM messaging system public (not retroactively of course,
but change it so that anyone can ready any message written in the future).
I am not sure whether this is a good idea myself, that's why I ask. The
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to ask for a quick show of hands on the idea of making the
whole built-in OSM messaging system public (not retroactively of course,
but change it so that anyone can ready any message written in the
Frederik Ramm schrieb:
Hi,
I'd like to ask for a quick show of hands on the idea of making the
whole built-in OSM messaging system public (not retroactively of course,
but change it so that anyone can ready any message written in the future).
I am not sure whether this is a good idea
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If all intra-OSM messaging were public (somewhat like a Wiki talk
page), then even if only few people took the time to actually read other
people's conversations, it would be easier for the community as a whole
to get
Sebastian Hohmann wrote:
I don't think that making the messaging system public is a good idea. It
all has the feel of private messaging, that should still be possible.
Agreed, why change this .. it's useful and expected (what's the law about all
websites growing to support their own email
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