Final got the federal govt "Style Manual" and looked through it.
The only bit on St and Saint is that they should be treated the same in
an index .. the St should be expanded for the listing order but printed
as St.
There are a number of places where examples are given for some other
things
For places like `St Peters` and `St Leonards` the `St` abbreviation has
become widely accepted by the community to the point that it's almost no
longer an abbreviation. So I'd say it should be `St Peters` and not use
`Saint Peters` even as an alt_name.
Maybe I am missing something here, but to my mind road and place naming
is pretty clear cut. See:-
"Guidelines for the determination of place names" a fact sheet by the
Geographic Names Board of NSW
On 29/06/18 21:08, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Warin wrote:
I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English
language.
It is expressly _incorrect_ in British English and if this were a UK
discussion you would be asked to put them back to St. I can't speak for
Australian
Warin wrote:
> I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English
> language.
It is expressly _incorrect_ in British English and if this were a UK
discussion you would be asked to put them back to St. I can't speak for
Australian English but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the
8 6:04 PM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?
Many church names in Australia have names containing 'Saint' followed by a
persons name these are are commonly abbreviated 'St'.
I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English langu
Further thought;
I'm certain the Federal Governments 'Style Manual for authors, editors and
printers.' would have something to say on it.
It looks like I can borrow it from a local library.
ISBN 0701636483 (pkb), 0701636475
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/13429246?q=Style+manual=book
...@philipmallis.com
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*Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?
Hi!
The easiest way is to add alt_name with abbreviation. Also if
community agrees, it is possible to put abbreviation in the name tag
(because of rendering name on the map), but use
To: phi...@philipmallis.com
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?
Hi!
The easiest way is to add alt_name with abbreviation. Also if community agrees,
it is possible to put abbreviation in the name tag (because of rendering name
on the map
Hi!
The easiest way is to add alt_name with abbreviation. Also if community
agrees, it is possible to put abbreviation in the name tag (because of
rendering name on the map), but use "Saint" as alt_name.
Best Regrads,
Nemanja
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:18 AM Philip Mallis
wrote:
> It depends
It depends on the context. St Kilda in Melbourne is another example where that
is used instead of 'Saint'.
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> On 29 Jun 2018, at 10:28, cleary wrote:
>
> In New South Wales, the Geographic Names Board register shows the Sydney
> suburb Mount Druitt (no abbreviation) while
In New South Wales, the Geographic Names Board register shows the Sydney
suburb Mount Druitt (no abbreviation) while the adjacent suburb is St
Marys (always St and never Saint). The same applies to places named St
Peters and St Leonards. Using the word "Saint" would not accord with the
places'
Hello all, our team has come into an interesting situation regarding road name
abbreviations, we know that as a policy we spell out any and all abbreviations
on the OSM map, however it looks like we may have run into an exception in the
use of "Saint vs St"
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