Re: [talk-au] Oz Data Catalogue

2021-02-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone! I'll give it a go. Fingers crossed :-) Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Missing attribution

2021-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Fantastic! Could you please go back & thank him on behalf of all of us? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 at 21:34, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Attribution now showing – Great result! > > > > Cheers - Phil > > > > *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick > *Sent:

[talk-au] Help with relation please

2021-01-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Have been starting working through various military establishments to update their details according to the military=base proposal, & looking at HMAS Watson on South Head, Sydney: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2250229#map=16/-33.8377/151.2814 The eastern edge of the Base has been drawn

Re: [talk-au] How to map around blocked roads

2020-12-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Bob Cameron wrote: > then add in a short section with a allowed access tag for something? > Is it allowed access though, or are people driving past there illegally? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Andrew Thanks for that explanation! On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:27, Andrew Hughes wrote: Is there a reason why it is a bad idea to map Culverts this way? > No, not really that I can see!, but ... anything that is 'really heavy' such as a mobile crane, concrete pump or > heavy freight are

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 19:22, cleary wrote: > > In regard to sections of road that are subject to flooding, I think that > is a separate issue. Sometimes lengths of road may be signposted as > floodways and I am not aware if there is any appropriate OSM tagging for > that. On Fri, 27 Nov 2020

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 10:19, Andrew Hughes wrote: > > Questions : What are the correct tagging for the ways below? > Sorry, got to say that I personally can't see anything "wrong" with either of them? > >- Way https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28010677 : > - *Q: Tagged as a bridge,

Re: [talk-au] Port Phillip Steer Clear Areas Proposed Import

2020-10-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Good work Andrew. Maybe they could reciprocate by giving us the numbers / names for all their docks / berths, plus the O to map them all? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been changed by 2hu4u

2020-10-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Re water tanks / towers, I've just added the following comment to the talk page: " Usual default for ground level water tanks is simply man_made=storage_tank + content=water (iD default "water tank"). For emergency water tanks eg at RFS stations or reserved for their use also add

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 11:17, Greg Lauer wrote: > > The real world example for me is riding in the local forest in SE QLD and > seeing other riders blindly following MapsMe on tracks that are closed (and > tagged as such but not visible on the map). > > I am not suggesting a 'tagging to render'

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 20:39, Little Maps wrote: > what text should we add to the Australian Tagging Guidelines, which give > no guidance on the matter? > We do have guidelines concerning sacred sites

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 15:10, wrote: > > I can think of a few cases where the land owner or manager might not > want some features mapped. Is there anything built into OSM that somebody can request "this" spot / area not be mapped? I know that G Maps has that feature. I am not saying we

Re: [talk-au] How is the word "park" meant in Australian English?

2020-10-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 12:25, Greg Lauer wrote: > It does seem that leisure=nature_reserve is common. > You could also find (shock, horror!) that that tag has been used for rendering purposes. & Steve, to not help matters at all :-) You also park your car in a car park! Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Landgate data

2020-10-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 09:08, nwastra nwastra wrote: > Hi > I noticed this edit this morning that is using data obtained from > Landgate. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Xebozone/history#map=18/-31.77734/115.95824 > Do we have explicit permission to use their data? > Certainly not

Re: [talk-au] Microsoft Australian building footprints

2020-10-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 14:53, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > There's a link on the github repo to download a GeoJSON file. They haven't > made it available via rapid yet. > That would probably explain why I couldn't find it! Looking at it via JOSM, > & seeing that I don't JOSM, I won't worry to

Re: [talk-au] Microsoft Australian building footprints

2020-10-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Where are you all finding this info? I've had a look at RapiD & they either don't have much on the GC, or I'm just doing something wrong (which is quite, quite possible! :-)), because I can't see anything to check? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: vine row tagging

2020-10-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 13:52, John Bryant wrote: > > I'm not totally full bottle on all the mailman list management variables, > but I think it's managed with the reply_goes_to_list setting here: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node11.html > Thanks, John, but not

[talk-au] Fwd: vine row tagging

2020-10-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Resending message to the list :-( How do we fix it so that "Reply" goes to the list, not just the last poster? Thanks Graeme -- Forwarded message ----- From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:20 Subject: Re: [talk-au] vine row tagging To: John Bryant

Re: [talk-au] vine row tagging

2020-10-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 14:13, John Bryant wrote: > Looking more broadly, it looks like vine rows haven't been widely mapped > before. > Do you need to? I think it could be automatically assumed that all vineyards have their vines in rows, approx the same distance apart? I noticed

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Boundaries

2020-10-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks again, both Andrews! On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:06, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I guess now is a good time to point out the post import items at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/PSMA_Admin_Boundaries#Post_Import, > for areas where you have the local knowledge you can

Re: [talk-au] PSMA Boundaries

2020-09-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:42, cleary wrote: > > This morning I was looking on the map for an unfamiliar location in > Queensland. Not only did I find the place I was looking for but I was > pleasantly surprised to find administrative boundaries showing for > suburbs/localities and Local

Re: [talk-au] Unattributed use of map

2020-09-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 11:26, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Message sent, so we'll see how we go. > & they (or their marketing / website people, at least) just responded to say they've fixed it & thanks for picking it up! :-) Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [talk-au] Unattributed use of map

2020-09-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks fellas! Message sent, so we'll see how we go. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Unattributed use of map

2020-09-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just looking at the map for the next stage of the GC Light Rail construction & spotted that it's using OSM, with no attribution :-( https://gclr3.com.au/map https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-28.0837/153.4468 How do we usually report things like this? Just an e-mail to their contact

Re: [talk-au] Admin_level discussion for Australia

2020-09-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 09:29, cleary wrote: > > In regard to ABS data ... I understand that it was added into OSM when it > was the only data for which we could get permission. ABS statistical areas > approximate suburb boundaries (perhaps 90% similarity). In the Sydney > suburb where I live,

Re: [talk-au] Admin_level discussion for Australia

2020-09-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 13:29, Andrew Harvey wrote: > >> That part I'm not sure what the original intent was or what it means. > Which ABS boundary, why are statistical boundaries even relevant here. > Could be wiped off the list & left as another "Not in Use" then? If there's a case for

Re: [talk-au] Admin_level discussion for Australia

2020-09-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 19:08, Andrew Harvey wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpostal_code indicates > post code areas should be type=boundary + boundary=postal_code + > postal_code=* on a relation or way. Given we don't have a good open data > set for postal code

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks! Graeme On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 16:52, Andrew Davidson wrote: > Looks OK to me. > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 19:29, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Yes - at least if no conflicting edits were > done later. > > Otherwise it may be necessary to copy > earlier text. > Wasn't able to simply revert the changes due to "other conflicting edits", so re-pasted previous data. Could somebody

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 20:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Sep 2, 2020, 06:06 by thesw...@gmail.com: > > On 2/09/2020 10:38 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > Did a bit of searching & it appears it was only chan

Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Duplicate of the same airport

2020-09-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 18:31, Nemanja Bracko (E-Search) < v-neb...@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > However, according to this Wikipedia page > , it is > said that in AU there are 4 such airports. > I'd add Canberra to that list! One

[talk-au] Aussie First Nation addresses

2020-09-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
We spoke about the concept of listing Aboriginal Nation addresses a while back. Just reading this article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-10/push-for-indigenous-place-names-in-addresses/12645756 ATM, States are admin_level 4 while cities are 6 (have we fixed that yet?). Would these be

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 10:12, cleary wrote: > > Reading what is stated by Queensland Health on its website, as you have > quoted it, I think that taking the information and incorporating into OSM > is one of the areas that requires the permission of Queensland Health. On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
et page*, provided that it is not expressly prohibited by a copyright notice or Creative Commons licence, the source is attributed (see below) and the material remains unaltered." So, would we need to go through the full permission & waiver process to use data off that Health page?

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:25, Ewen Hill wrote: > We also have the grey area of Bush Nursing Centres that are clearly not > hospitals but are the best place to head to in an emergency and may be the > difference when you are looking at two equal sized communities. The ten > staff sounds arbitrary.

[talk-au] Fwd: Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Resend to list - darn "reply" only going to the sender, not the list! :-( -- Forwarded message ----- From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 08:25 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals To: Andrew Davidson On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 18:02, Andre

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 13:22, Michael James wrote: > > > Not sure QAS offers any walk up facilities anymore, the local one here has > a phone out the front to call for help. > Think it may depend a lot on the size of the town? On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 13:28, Andrew Davidson wrote: > > I only get

[talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Over the last few days, I've spotted a few places marked as hospitals that aren't. Locally, there were two Aged Care homes, then as I looked around further, I spotted another Aged Care home, an Ambulance station in a small country town & an SES station! The Ambo station I could almost relate to,

[talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 18:39, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:21, cleary wrote: > >> >> I looked at the Wiki. It is quite a while since I looked at the section >> on administrative boundaries. My recollection is that it used to have LGA >> as admin_level=6 and suburb as level

[talk-au] OSM down?

2020-09-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Has something crashed? Was getting a weird error message when trying to save changes earlier, & when I now try to open OSM, I get: We're sorry, but something went wrong. The issue has been logged for investigation. Please try again later. Technical details for the administrator of this website

[talk-au] Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?

2020-08-29 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Having a problem with OSMAND that I think could be related back to the way data has been entered, or later defined, in OSM? Playing with OSMAND yesterday & searched for a local street but it came back "not found". Tried a number of others with some found & others not. Then tried changing the

Re: [talk-au] How do you tag a registered club?

2020-07-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 18:04, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 16/7/20 9:49 am, Bren Barnes wrote: > > Morning, apparently it's amenity=licensed_club according to tagging > > guidelines. > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Licensed_Club > > > > Thanks for that.

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Andrew Just reading a discussion on the Tagging list that included this post https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-July/053895.html, which includes "So far all I have is a "toy" application that uses Valhalla to generate a route given a start and stop lat/lon. The eventual goal

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 23:40, Andrew Hughes wrote: > > The Gazetted roads I compared against OSM were so different around ramps, > turning lanes, round abouts, carriage ways, u-turn junctions... it's clear > that gazetted roads are never maintained to a level that could ever be used > for

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& should also ask just what it is that you are trying to achieve! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for reaching out, Andrew. Another issue will be highway on- & off-ramps that may be a few 00 m's long but are often only shown as a sharp angle entering or leaving the main road. Thanks Graeme On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 12:26, Ewen Hill wrote: > Agreed Ben, >There may be ways to warn

Re: [talk-au] URL for viewing Vic Gov data layers in JOSM

2020-07-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 22:45, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > If you'd like to use other datasets, I'd say this needs either another > waiver. > That seems like it should have had an "or ..." attached, Andrew? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

2020-06-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 10:20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Graeme - I hope your only using google maps as an example here and not as > your source for mapping. > Certainly! (& I usually include that disclaimer when I link to imagery!) Unfortunately, I find GM is the best readily

Re: [talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

2020-06-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
,75y,143.74h,54.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJk_cDNVsoMaKLtY5FlWlyg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en Thanks Graeme On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 08:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > There are a number of similar signs to these on the M1 in NNSW, this > particular one near Brunswick Heads. > > > https:

Re: [talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

2020-06-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
There are a number of similar signs to these on the M1 in NNSW, this particular one near Brunswick Heads. https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-28.5357775,153.5389296,3a,57.4y,164.26h,86.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sazs46cEWdkGbHMJ5jZM-zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en First:

[talk-au] Aboriginal languages

2020-05-31 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Some time ago, there was discussion about Aboriginal languages, & the possibility of mapping them. Just saw this article https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-31/learn-the-name-of-the-indigenous-language-of-the-land-you-live/12252006, which links to https://gambay.com.au/map &

Re: [talk-au] Vandalism

2020-05-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Andrew! Graeme On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 12:22, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I agree, I'll go through and revert and send a note as a first step. > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Vandalism

2020-05-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi all Found either some bad jokes or (I'm afraid) more likely vandalism, all done by one apparent new mapper, just on a month ago. User is https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jelena%20Jaredic Their work, all done on the same day:

Re: [talk-au] Anzacathon and mapping possibilities

2020-04-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for your enthusiasm Daniel, but a couple of issues, sorry. Anything out of the AWM is covered by CC-BY-NC-3.0 copyright, so we would need permission to use it. https://www.awm.gov.au/about/organisation/corporate/copyright &, have you asked for permission to use the word Anzac?

Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

2020-04-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Andrew Harvey wrote: > In most cases the roundabout doesn't have a name, maybe just make sure > that junction=roundabout is present. Hard to say without seeing an example. > Which is the point of the problem exactly - which of the 2 - 4+ streets do you name it as?

Re: [talk-au] Join roundabouts

2020-04-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
OT to relations but on the subject of roundabouts, I've noticed that they are now (or possibly always have been?) appearing in at least OSM Inspector as an error to say "name missing on minor / major road". Is there anything that can be done about this, or just ignore it? Thanks Graeme

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 10:46, Ewen Hill wrote: Andrew beat me to passing-place! you can just get a fire truck to do a 27 point turn - just. > Only 27 points!!! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Question about houses

2020-03-28 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
G'day James & welcome! Personally, I've always gone with either #3, with the address node at the driveway, or drawn the building & added the address details to that. Either way seems to work, in the they render, & also appear in an address search (at least on OSMand!) Good luck & have fun!

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate of the same airport

2020-03-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
No, I would leave it as 2 separate airfields, with the same info against both. If that causes a problem, then take the codes off the airbase, as strictly speaking, that side of the airfield isn't an air transport destination. Thanks Graeme On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 22:10, Nemanja Bracko

Re: [talk-au] Burn area mapping

2020-03-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 16:29, Phil Wyatt wrote: > No, I wouldn’t map them, > Any particular reason why not, Phil? Or do you mean just not map them while they're dry? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Burn area mapping

2020-03-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 16:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Past fires have not been mapped, I see no reason to start doing it. > > Thoughts? > > Agree with you entirely. On a related note, I've been working through the Blue Mountains challenge area mapping every POI I can spot -

Re: [talk-au] Feedback to ARA on their SA bushfire imagery made available to OSM

2020-03-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
That imagery is amazing! Is it available for anywhere else? :-) Thanks Graeme > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] highway=motorway_junction

2020-02-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
While on the subject of destination signage, what do you do for signs on normal country roads, not motorways? EG, this one, https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.1528759,153.2674278,3a,15y,348.39h,88.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2jRvIOTPJ_raYywsPB_IcA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 , which is on a secondary road, with

Re: [talk-au] highway=motorway_junction

2020-02-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 14:33, Andrew Harvey wrote: > In that particular example I don't think it's needed, since it's only an > entrance to the motorway (not an exit) and South Street probably doesn't > need these junction tags. > > The tag is useful when exits are named or numbered to say there

[talk-au] LPI imagery date?

2020-02-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Still mapping away for bushfire areas, this time in Blue Mountains, & just wondering how up-to-date the LPI Imagery is? Could it be post-fires? Please have a look at

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
As someone who drives a lot of country highways they are both temporary >> and permanent. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Sebastian S. >> *Sent:* Monday, 17 February 2020 11:11 AM >> *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Graeme Fitzpat

[talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
What do we map gravel pits as? (Areas off the side of a main road, used by Dept of Transport Main Roads to dump gravel etc for road building / repairs) Quarry seems a bit excessive! Depot doesn't really cut-it either as there's nothing there except for a pile of dirt. & is this another

Re: [talk-au] Opening hours for scheduled tours

2020-02-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 07:58, Ewen Hill wrote: > > Fr-Tu 11:00, 12:30, 14:00; SH Mo-*So* 11:00, 12:30, 14:00, 15:15, 16:00 > Is *So* the problem (or just a typo here?) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] [OSGeo Oceania] Bushfire mapathon - kudos

2020-02-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 14:56, John Bryant wrote: > > Great work you guys. Made me feel proud to be part of such a great > community. > Yep, thanks everybody! I was wondering how everyone went? I went in yesterday & did a couple of squares using LPI imagery & mapping every building & other POI

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 16:24, Ewen Hill wrote: > Sadly the Planet quality appears less than optimal. > You're not wrong! > If I look at the town of Cobargo where there were buildings lost just > north east of the Narira Creek Highway crossing, I can't tell.what has been > destroyed, damaged or

Re: [talk-au] FW: [HOT] damage as a tag - not docu,

2020-02-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 08:32, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > There was a proposal back in 2016 (well after the first use of the damage > tag) and it seems to have stalled, maybe because tagging damage has been > found to be less effective than hoped > > > > >

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 23:37, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > Yes it will go out of date quickly but so does landuse=construction. If > anything by flagging it as damaged, ruined, razed it attributes this > feature as needed to be checked again soon. > Yep, as I said on the other thread, they all need

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 19:42, Ewen Hill wrote: > > I would like to see something a bit smarter than this. Something that can > assist people on the ground now would be highly beneficial. A "Hell yes, we > are open" web-site that *small *businesses can advertise would be great. > A whole lot of

Re: [talk-au] FW: [HOT] damage as a tag - not docu,

2020-02-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 20:27, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > From: Russell Deffner > Sent: Thursday, 6 February 2020 9:04 PM > To: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > Cc: h...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [HOT] damage as a tag - not docu, > > Just a quick note; HOT does not formally do damage tagging,

Re: [talk-au] SSSI National Bushfire Recovery Map-a-thon - Sunday 9th Feb

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 13:14, Andrew Harvey wrote: > Fair point, I didn't find it since it's not documented > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/damage#wiki. The two tags can > coexist so I don't see a problem with using damage as a quick and easy > method for new contributors. > As long as

Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 09:34, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > >> 2. Depending on the answer to the above, do we need to add TfNSW to the >> List of Conributors in the wiki? and does the waiver need to published in >> the wiki? >> > > Yes, if the data is used in OpenStreetMap, per the waiver agreement

Re: [talk-au] Australian guidelines for mapping landuse-landcover?

2020-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Yep. ditch the landuse page as I don't think our landcover is any different to anywhere else? As a matter of fact, the main Australia page could do with a clean-u / refresh https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia As for the tagging guidelines, I'm also in two minds? How about something

Re: [talk-au] traffic_calming=choker and table

2020-02-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Yep, choked_table sounds good. >From that wiki page, though, I notice that a chicane is "Called a *driveway link* in Australia"? Maybe so, but for 40+ years of driving in Australia, I've only ever known them as chicanes! Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-26 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 06:33, Sebastian S. wrote: > Hi Graeme, > I however was able to add two fire stations that where missing, the base > map is your friend here. > Adding 220 stations via searching the base map is however not a sensible > way of doing it. > Yep, I've put a few more in myself

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
n 2020 at 21:05, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> I have used the LPI Base Map for both name and operator, see >> >> >> >> Way: Narooma Fire Station (761122699) [operator fire & rescue] >> >> >> >> and >&

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 09:43, Andrew Harvey wrote: > You can take one of the URLs from above, but without the "tms:" at the > start eg. > > https://{switch:a,b,c,d}. >

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Load into iD to start with! Thanks Graeme On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 23:18, Andrew Harvey wrote: > How to load into iD/JOSM or how to make use of it for mapping? > > On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 08:24, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Thanks for putting these up Andrew. >

Re: [talk-au] Maxar bushfire imagery

2020-01-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for putting these up Andrew. The silly question though is how do we use them? :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] NPWS landing sites task

2020-01-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Nice to think that it may actually make a difference one day :-) Just thinking though - that was only a list of NSW NPWS pads, wasn't it? Would there be more listed by Fire & Rescue / SES / Police perhaps? Would also be a good exercise to go through with the other States! If we contacted them

Re: [talk-au] NPWS landing sites task

2020-01-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& done! Thanks Graeme On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 10:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Thanks fellas! > > Back to it, then :-) > > Graeme > > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 22:08, Sebastian S. wrote: > >> I use a node for most. >> Only if there i

Re: [talk-au] NPWS landing sites task

2020-01-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
, Andrew Harvey < > andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 17:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick >> wrote: >> >>> Question re this Map Roulette task, thanks. >>> >>> I take it these details have come from a NPWS list of some form that

[talk-au] NPWS landing sites task

2020-01-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Question re this Map Roulette task, thanks. I take it these details have come from a NPWS list of some form that says there is a landing site at "this" spot. So, even if it shows as just a patch of bare ground, we tag it as a landing site? Node or area? Of the few I've looked at, one was a

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2020-01-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, but why did they show up now instead of at the end of the month / beginning of February? There were 2 for NSW & also 1 for Vic still showing this morning, which I've just fixed (the Vic one was already fixed from a couple of days ago?). One of the NSW ones was only created 2 days ago so

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
, sometimes it's visible on > Mapillary based on the signage. > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 15:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> Just a thought? >> >> Are we allowed to use https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=467 or >> not? >> >> I've thinking we wou

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just a thought? Are we allowed to use https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/page.php?id=467 or not? I've thinking we would still need permission & waiver? Big question, I guess, is - are we commercial or not? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
s. If you then add a driveway or similar, without deleting the building=key, these will then error, as a driveway can't cross a "building" Thanks Graeme On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 13:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Fine! > > The volunteer rural firies certainly do distinguis

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2020-01-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
till to do, with tasks from yesterday? Thanks Graeme > On 06/01/20 18:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > & NSW is done! :-) > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Over 55’s Lifestyle Village = retirement_home ?

2020-01-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
> > Hi all, > > > > is a Over 55’s Lifestyle Village (like this one > > https://www.middlerockhomevillage.com.au) a amenity=retirement_home? > One near us https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/209449523 has been marked simply as landuse=residential name=Miami Retirement Village min_age=50 Thanks

Re: [talk-au] Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

2020-01-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
& NSW is done! :-) Couldn't help thinking though, as I fixed some phone numbers, of just how many of these places - Bilpin, Bells Line of Road, Narooma & so on - are we now going to have to go back in & mark as destroyed? :-( Thanks Graeme On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 13:37, Graeme

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Fine! The volunteer rural firies certainly do distinguish themselves from the urban professionals!, & their stations are all labelled Rural Fire Brigade, usually with RFS logo, so I'll go with that for rural & QFES for urban, but the same Wikidata tag on both. Thanks Graeme > >>>

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Actually addind a link to the page would be helpful, wouldn't it ‽ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Fire_Stations Thanks Graeme On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 12:22, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just added Qld Fire & Emergency details to the Guidelines page. &

Re: [talk-au] Fire Station Operators

2020-01-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Just added Qld Fire & Emergency details to the Guidelines page. It's a bit of a confusing one though - the various volunteer Rural Fire Brigades come under the Rural Fire Service, but that in turn is subordinate to QFES. Qld RFS doesn't have it's own Wikidata tag - should I list it as well,

Re: [talk-au] OT: DB has correct attribution

2020-01-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Very nice. What was it doing on the flat? Thanks Graeme On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 19:25, Ben Kelley wrote: > I'm currently on a train in Germany. Slowed down to 130km/h for some > bends. The train wifi has a page showing you the train's location and > speed, which uses OSM. > > Nice. > >

Re: [talk-au] presenting #NorthernBeachesSolar pet project

2020-01-04 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Been following with interest - after all, don't we all need something *else* to map ‽ :-) Please have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=631189377#map=19/-33.81607/150.99852 , which I spotted while fixing phone numbers. So would you draw individual boxes around each of those 15

Re: [talk-au] Bush Fire Neighbourhood Safer Places

2020-01-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 at 12:21, adam steer wrote: > > In Vic these are only used as a last resort. Not sure if 'assembly point' > translates to 'only come here if there are absolutely no other options, and > this place might not be safe anyway'. > > > It seems that 'neighbourhood safer places'

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