On 16/3/22 21:47, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote:
> I was wondering if you would take the same approach to similar shared
driveways that lead to commercial properties as per ways in residential
areas?
Refer to examples below:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/698542896
On 16/3/22 16:56, Andrew Harvey wrote:
generally a shared driveway
- will break the highway=* gutter with a kerb ramp
- usually won't have a kerb
- usually on private land
- usually maintained by the owners
- letter boxes and garbage bins usually need to be taken out to the
street and not
I'm relatively agnostic as to which one tagging mechanism is used. I'd
probably have a slight leaning to service=driveway for everything, and
then have a lower level key. Yes, the wiki would need changing, but
semantically, they are all driveways (shared or not).
Whether or not it is
Thanks for the feedback on the shared driveways.
I was wondering if you would take the same approach to similar shared driveways
that lead to commercial properties as per ways in residential areas?
Refer to examples below:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/698542896
I don't think we are going to have a single rule that always applies, but:
generally a shared driveway
- will break the highway=* gutter with a kerb ramp
- usually won't have a kerb
- usually on private land
- usually maintained by the owners
- letter boxes and garbage bins usually need to be
Hey Matthew,
I think the distinction is inherited from the distinction between
highway=service and highway=residential. A "regular" driveway shouldn't
be a residential road, and a narrow, but otherwise unremarkable
residential road doesn't become a service road.
I do feel as though there
So what then distinguishes highway=residential from a shared driveway in
Sebastian's 3 examples?
* The first way 818426144 is an unnamed shared service road, so seems to
neatly fit the pipestem example as explained. The addresses in this style
of development are likely to be unit numbers,
Interesting discussion; it does seem like the consensus is landing on
the side of service=pipestem.
There are 668 instances of driveway=pipestem in Australia:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gU6, but there is 0 instances of
service=pipestem: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1gUd. However, it seems
In the global community it's still disputed, see
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:service%3Ddriveway#Pipestems
and my proposal to have this as an editor preset
https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/239 where the
tagging question is still not resolved.
I've actually
I think I started the last discussion on this, so I'll wade in!
Driveways are a bit of a nightmare - there are lots that don't fit
neatly into one bucket or another.
We did agree that service=driveway, driveway=pipestem was better than
service=pipestem.
It's probably 6 of one, half a dozen
Hi Seb!
The last time this came up on the mailing list
(https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2021-September/015014.html)
most people seemed to approve of the following mapping:
highway=service
service=driveway
driveway=pipestem
Dian
On 2022-03-15 20:16, Sebastian Azagra
Hi all,
Had a query regarding the mapping of driveways / shared driveways as there
seems to be quite a number of different approaches in the data.
Below are three examples of similar ways that have different tags used in each
instance.
Highway=service
Service= driveway
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