user has the right to change it.
This is OSM so there is no executive in charge of road tagging that is
going to come along and declare the edit officially wrong and revert it
for you.
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demand for it. Let's do it ! Any links to
previous discussions on that topic ? I think that improving user support
beyond mailing-lists discussions is important for OSM's growth and I'm
willing to help with that project.
Well actually osqa is what we had been considering.
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the hack weekend.
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setting up an OSM specific
QA site like this which would be a much better fit than trying to use
something that is intended to be more general.
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OTRS?
Sucks big time... It's massively over-complicated for any sort of end
user use.
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that matter if the boundaries are essentially guesswork inventions
anyway?
It sounds like these aren't any sort of officially defined areas, but
more the kind of fluid local names for approximate areas.
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We had to wait for Adaptec to start work - Grant is holding on the phone
to their support people right now.
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us to remove something - that requires a rebuild
of the archive.
Specifically in this case I think Richard had forwarded an email sent to
the list owner to the list, and the author of the email objected and
asked for it to be removed.
Can it be fixed?
Nope.
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already have too many and that any attempt add more
without doing something about the layout is going to have a hard time
getting merged.
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the logo would no longer be needed - this would be moved to the
landing tab.
Removing the blurb certainly helps, though that only appears when you
aren't logged in anyway.
I like it.
I don't. We need to be radical, not just fiddle with the details.
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that we're making a change, or that
attribution is handled differently - they just need to know how things
work now, not how they used to work.
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but rather that we don't need to mention that it's a change
because a new user has no knowledge of previous arrangements.
In other words the first sentence of the last paragraph is not needed
for a new user.
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On 13/05/10 04:39, MP wrote:
Some way to override Accept-language (without having to login) would be nice.
We know - the only reason it hasn't been done yet is that I haven't
found any space in the UI for the necessary link/button.
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the next paragraph which constrains what they can do with it?
Yes, it is a bit weird to say we'll have everything and then in the
next paragraph but we'll only do this with it.
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it then you're likely to be shown a paper version.
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derived data issues so there should be something happening.
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in the same way the VMD release was not announced.
The version on http://os.openstreetmap.org/data is the new one with both
the 2009 and 2010 data in.
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On 29/04/10 09:15, Tom Taylor wrote:
Seems to be live now (at the bottom):
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/opendatadownload/products.html
Yes - I am currently downloading all the files to the dev server.
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On 29/04/10 09:15, Tom Taylor wrote:
Seems to be live now (at the bottom):
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on improving county
boundaries might be a good place to start.
Ideally they also need to be done as relations and share ways with
adjacent ones. Indeed it would be good if they shared ways with any
existing features (such as rivers) where appropriate...
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On 14/04/10 11:11, Ed Avis wrote:
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Sorry, replied to the wrong list...
Which list has this endlessly fascinating postbox discussion?
The uk-government-data-developers list.
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Which just happens to be the location of the local delivery office ;-)
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On 13/04/10 09:57, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 13/04/10 09:49, Roger Slevin wrote:
I can assure you there are postcodes which represent postboxes which is why
Codepoint has a flag for them - but this quite important flag is not present
in Codepoint Open. The PO Box number is something completely
necessary to make JOSM work.
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It looks horribly complicated to setup though.
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set of large tiffs in OSGB projection which would have to be chopped up
into tiles.
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mention. I can't imagine anybody much was buying it to be
honest.
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On 05/04/10 16:51, Valent Turkovic wrote:
is there a way to fix broken and hard to read street names.
Look at the example: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/914/lom.jpg
This is the area in question: http://osm.org/go/0KJwbdSx
Sure - improve mapnik's rendering engine ;-)
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and walking the streets is at least half the fun of OSM!
As Andy says, I say we start with getting boundary data fixed up from
Boundary Line and then look at Vector Map District in a month's time and
decide what the next step is.
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. Bit like osm.org really.
There is a viewer on the OS web site (when you can get in). Obviously we
will need to set up WMS or something for tracing of certain layers as well.
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, although it does have green signs.
Have you merged trunk and primary?
That user was correct - in OSM we use highway=trunk for all primary A
roads (those with green signs) and highway=primary for all other A roads
(those wth white signs).
This is documented in many places in he wiki.
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experience.)
I've been running JOSM under OpenJDK on linux for a considerable period
now with no problems at all.
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password to change your email address. The only time you need to
provide passwords on that page is when you want to change your password.
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Alternatively there was be something we can do in the page - are there
any sort of standards that browsers adhere to about particular classes
or names on the fields?
It doesn't happen for me in FF by the way, but I am using LastPass
rather than the built-in password manager.
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is that your browser filled in the first password automatically
and it then thought you were trying to change the password and
complained that the two passwords were not the same.
None of which has any bearing on the language - if it accepts the
changes then he language will be changed.
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the SRTM dataset directly.
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for offline usage on the
IPhone). In fact I've mentioned my application in a previous post
here...
The api map call is for editors, not for downloading data for large
numbers of end users to use for routing etc.
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of an editing cycle where you are fetching data with the intention
of changing it rather than just in order to use it in a read only way.
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On 15/03/10 20:42, Michal Migurski wrote:
I'm getting CGI errors here:
http://pafciu17.dev.openstreetmap.org
Should be fixed now.
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something a good
idea... Basically he's suggesting replacing our current freeform tagging
with some complicated system of rules and ontologies.
It's completely not the osm way and isn't going to fly.
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of a solution - many
optimisations would be needed if it was to be implemented for real.
Does that sound worthy?
Yes, which is why somebody is already working on it.
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using 1.0?
If there are features to add, then these could be potential projects?
It's in the wiki somewhere but I don't think there's anything very
useful or helpful there.
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own.
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the 11 diverges from 1 somewhere and goes to Stansted rather
than Cambridge?
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On 06/03/10 06:39, Andrew Gregory wrote:
Exporting from the OSM slippymap. The options are not visible for either
of the image options nor the HTML option. Looks OK in Firefox and Safari.
Is this a good enough place to report this problem,
Yes - http://trac.openstreetmap.org/.
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On 06/03/10 06:39, Andrew Gregory wrote:
Exporting from the OSM slippymap. The options are not visible for either
of the image options nor the HTML option. Looks OK in Firefox and Safari.
Is this a good enough place to report this problem,
Yes - http
= the Fosse
Clearly you've mistaken it for the A429 then ;-)
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road references are nationally unique. It seems
both plausible and implausible at the same time.
I don't believe they are - in fact each authority has it's own numbering
scheme for such roads. Some just use Cxxx, some use Cxxx and Dxxx, some
use Uxxx and so on.
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to enforce with bots.
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don't really handle the
complex postscript of PDF at all.
The PDF that a scanner produces will normally just contain a big
embedded bitmap image. No idea how easy that is to extract though.
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box or fast food joint.
I completely disagree. We're running a project to map the world, not a
project to provide an end user site to compete with google maps.
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On 23/02/10 21:46, SteveC wrote:
On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
Did you read the long blog post I wrote the next morning where I attempted
to be more constructive?
No, sorry Tom, where was that?
http://compton.nu/2010/02/redesigning-the-openstreetmap-web-site/
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Fred misunderstood as well.
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to be such a complete shit all
the time? I honestly wouldn't blame Richard if he deleted all his code
and walked off into the sunset and we never saw him again after that
pointless little diatribe. I do help it made you feel better.
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On 14/02/10 16:38, Tom Hughes wrote:
Boundaries, being virtual things rather than real physical entities are
normally connected to physical things which cross them.
That should say not normally connected of course...
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move to the new server as mediawiki will be upgraded at that point.
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of sanitize and linkify?
But I really have no good idea.
Because those links came from the user - ie they entered a tags
directly. It's only links that we generate (by spotting URLs in the
text) that get the rel=nofollow treatment.
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all documented on the wiki at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Provisional/First_Edition#Use
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Google.
I don't think I'm cced on that ticket so I hadn't seen that, but we were
planning to get a wildcard certificate anyway.
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On 18/12/09 22:03, Matt Amos wrote:
the wiki currently has the meetup set for the john snow on tuesday[1].
how do people feel about moving that to wednesday?
Definitely not for me as I shall be in Somerset by then.
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government press release assume that the OS had the data and could be
made to release it but that one of the things the consultation will
establish is that they don't/can't.
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if that would be a
replication on the Postres level or on the application level.
Well TRAPI already exists for the purpose of providing efficient read
only access to the data for an area.
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already said they're going to, so your request is
basically pointless, but I'm not an OSMF board member or LWG member so I
don't know why you're including me in your request.
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the result, this will not have been made by enough people to be
accepted as valid.
Polling the OSMF members is just the first stage - there will another
vote later when all contributors will be asked whether they want to
relicense.
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On 05/12/09 22:44, Ulf Lamping wrote:
Tom Hughes schrieb:
Polling the OSMF members is just the first stage - there will another
vote later when all contributors will be asked whether they want to
relicense.
With a gun at their head: Refuse: After the migration (currently 26th
February 2010
users without
also having to handle that.
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On 17/11/09 09:27, Lester Caine wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
Please do not do anything as daft as trying to mirror the wiki with
wget. The poor machine can barely cope with serving real users without
also having to handle that.
What database is the wiki running on? My own sites I simply have
publish dumps made that way. The raw database definitely
does have sensitive information so can't be made available as is.
I can't for the life of me think what sort of research would require a
copy of the wiki though.
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On 17/11/09 12:21, Kate wrote:
For the OSM wiki, what are the settings for:
* $wgAutoConfirmCount
* $wgAutoConfirmAge
I imagine they are whatever they default to... Certainly they don't seem
to appear in LocalSettings.
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This is interesting though:
Data relating to electoral and local authority boundaries as well as
postcode areas would be released for free re-use...
Do OS even have an (unencumbered) data set for postcode areas?
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On 14/11/09 13:12, Peter Herison wrote:
Tom Hughes schrieb:
On 14/11/09 11:53, Peter Herison wrote:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45959
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bremeninsider/diary
This userpage is advertising different hotels, hotelgroups or hotel
reservation
from DfT a few
years back.
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data so we can sue them and see if CC works?
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;-)
Yes, I know that the whole question of whether those terms are binding
in contract law given the lack of explicit acceptance is an open one but
it certainly hasn't stopped them trying.
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, no ;-)
The actually boundaries are still locked up however so it's not very
useful as it's just a hierarchical list of authorities.
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hard - the person that was working on it kind of
shot off on a tangent from the original idea. It's also pretty old now
so way out of sync with the main code. I should delete it really.
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complicated objects.
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commercial/non-commercial? Bandwidth required?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy
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- just because somebody has asked for something doesn't
mean it should be done and if a newbie just turns up and starts
implementing features that somebody somewhere once requested there is
every chance that they will get dispirited when their enhancements are
then turned down.
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it largely doesn't matter to them whether they derive
things from it (well at least until they try and overlay that data on a
google map and get nastygrams from the OS).
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On 22/09/09 03:44, Andrew Errington wrote:
I'm pretty sure there used to be a scale on the map[1] in the lower left
corner. Yesterday I noticed it was no longer there.
Correct see http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1704 for the reasons.
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need to change as you slip the map north
and south?
Exactly.
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his account, not his IP address.
***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM!
I have repeatedly stated that I am not prepared to block people on my
own. Get the DWG to order him blocked and I will happily do so.
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On 18/09/09 11:26, David Earl wrote:
On 18/09/2009 10:53, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 18/09/09 10:33, David Earl wrote:
***PLEASE*** PULL THE PLUG ON HIM!
I have repeatedly stated that I am not prepared to block people on my
own. Get the DWG to order him blocked and I will happily do so.
How
the code to enforce such a block then we'd have that
option.
It sounds like an interesting option to have.
Matt is working on some stuff along those lines at the moment I believe,
which is what I was alluding to in my earlier message.
Tom
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they have
drawn on it (many of which post date 1956 presumably) but if they have
only used that old map in doing so then there is no derivation problem.
Of course like you I'm not sure, from a practical point of view, how you
would make use of that.
Tom
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