[OSM-talk-be] wandelknooppunten

2014-03-09 Thread Guy Vanvuchelen
Als ik tijdens een wandeling een wandelknooppunt tegenkom dan probeer ik dat in te brengen in de hoop dat ik een klein steentje kan bijdragen aan diegenen die van de wandelknooppunten hun 'levenswerk' maken. In dat verband heb ik twee vragen. Bij mijn thuiskomst kom ik dikwijls tot de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] wandelknooppunten

2014-03-09 Thread Jo
De andere.optie.is in je browser hikeandbikemap.de weergeven, maar echt handig werkt dat niet op.zo'n klein schermpje. Jo On Mar 9, 2014 1:49 PM, Guy Vanvuchelen guy.vanvuche...@gmail.com wrote: Als ik tijdens een wandeling een wandelknooppunt tegenkom dan probeer ik dat in te brengen in de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] wandelknooppunten

2014-03-09 Thread Klaas Gadeyne
From: Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com Message-ID: CAJKJX-TvoABas26ikSVEK-FwA=zNMEaiL2GeKg=h5cwb7x2...@mail.gmail.com 2014-03-09 13:49 GMT+01:00 Guy Vanvuchelen guy.vanvuche...@gmail.com: Bij mijn thuiskomst kom ik dikwijls tot de vaststelling dat ik verschillende knooppunten heb

Re: [OSM-talk-be] wandelknooppunten

2014-03-09 Thread Guy Vanvuchelen
Eigenaardig. Het waren nochtans houten palen zoals ik die al dikwijls tegengekomen ben en ik heb er minstens 5 gezien waar onder de nummers 'Brugse Ommeland' stond. en ik was niet zat! Bedankt voor de tip van openfietsmap hiking-layer. Dat ga ik uitproberen. Guy Vanvuchelen Van:

[OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
Hi, for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial. Some of the changes: * the vertical ordering established by the layer values is valid exactly only in the point where the ways

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of Key:* as wiki web page titles

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:11:35AM +, Dave F. wrote: Hi Prompted by the discussion on the Layer tag I've just noticed there's two separate pages for it: 'Layer' 'Key:Layer' What's the reason for the 'Key:' prefix? IMO it can only lead to confusion. Haven't checked all, but Landuse

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of Key:* as wiki web page titles

2014-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 09.03.2014 12:11, schrieb Dave F.: Prompted by the discussion on the Layer tag I've just noticed there's two separate pages for it: 'Layer' 'Key:Layer' The page Layer is just a (wordy) disambiguation page because layer means so many different things in OSM. What's the reason for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Dave F.
On 09/03/2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote: Hi, for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial. Some of the changes: * the vertical ordering established by the layer values is valid

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:47:32AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 09/mar/2014 um 11:30 schrieb Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: * the vertical ordering established by the layer values is valid exactly only in the point where the ways cross or objects overlap actually at

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:35 schrieb Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: This is not my understanding of the layer tag. It is a tool to help renderers place objects on top of each other has no real world implication in differences of height. it has implications on real world topology: it

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:43 schrieb Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: It is broken by definition in at least one case: waterways ar supposed to share a node with the dam they are crossing, which means the highway passing across the dam will also share a node with the river passing thorugh a

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Dave F.
On 09/03/2014 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:35 schrieb Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: This is not my understanding of the layer tag. It is a tool to help renderers place objects on top of each other has no real world implication in differences of height. it has

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 01:05:18PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:43 schrieb Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: It is broken by definition in at least one case: waterways ar supposed to share a node with the dam they are crossing, which means the highway

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:35:20AM +, Dave F. wrote: On 09/03/2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote: Hi, for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial. Some of the changes: * the

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:35:20AM +, Dave F. wrote: On 09/03/2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote: Hi, for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial. Some of the changes: * the

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Dave F.
On 09/03/2014 12:24, Richard Z. wrote: it says point, not node the difference probably needs to be emphasized very strongly. There is a difference between mathematicaly precise and intuitive formulations:(( https://www.google.co.uk/#q=node%20definition a point in a network or diagram at which

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 09.03.2014 13:17, Dave F. wrote: On 09/03/2014 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: it has implications on real world topology: it says which object is above and which below when they cross, it is not only for rendering Disagree. A bridge at the top of Everest would be tagged 'layer=1'

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 12:34:31PM +, Dave F. wrote: On 09/03/2014 12:24, Richard Z. wrote: it says point, not node the difference probably needs to be emphasized very strongly. There is a difference between mathematicaly precise and intuitive formulations:((

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 09.03.2014 13:21, Richard Z. wrote: the same conceptual problem exists with pylons where they are shared by two bridges or aerial tramways. Actualy every pylon breaks the rule by definition because it connects ground with layer=0 with something else at a different level. How do you

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 12:34:31PM +, Dave F. wrote: On 09/03/2014 12:24, Richard Z. wrote: it says point, not node the difference probably needs to be emphasized very strongly. There is a difference between mathematicaly precise and intuitive formulations:((

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 02:00:36PM +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 09.03.2014 13:21, Richard Z. wrote: the same conceptual problem exists with pylons where they are shared by two bridges or aerial tramways. Actualy every pylon breaks the rule by definition because it connects ground

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Colin Smale
Not all OSM nodes are also network/diagram nodes, which are points with (AFAIK) three or more lines in common. Intermediate OSM nodes in the middle of a way are not topologically significant. On 2014-03-09 14:00, Richard Z. wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 12:34:31PM +, Dave F. wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-09 13:17 GMT+01:00 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: it has implications on real world topology: it says which object is above and which below when they cross, it is not only for rendering Disagree. A bridge at the top of Everest would be tagged 'layer=1' exactly as it would be if in

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 09.03.2014 14:18, Richard Z. wrote: Pylons must share a node with the waterway bellow in my opinion. They are a pretty relevant part of it. Pylons will often be somewhere within the riverbank area - based on their exact positions in reality -, but I would not insert them into the waterway

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:55:51PM +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 09.03.2014 14:18, Richard Z. wrote: Pylons must share a node with the waterway bellow in my opinion. They are a pretty relevant part of it. Pylons will often be somewhere within the riverbank area - based on their exact

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 09/03/2014, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: For instance if you had an area tagged 'park' another area within it tagged 'lake' you could add a 'layer' tag to 'lake' to ensure the render displayed it. -1, you should not add any layer in this case (tagging for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 9 March 2014 10:30, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial. Thank you for doing this, it's very useful to have this properly

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Richard Z.
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:26:59PM +, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 9 March 2014 10:30, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial.

[Talk-br] Arquivo .poly do Brasil com menos de 60.000 segmentos

2014-03-09 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Pessoal, Estou desenvolvendo um .BAT de compilação Garmin do mapa do Brasil e estou tomando um erro no programa osmupdate.exe que diz que o .poly (baixado de http://downloads.cloudmade.com/americas/south_america/brazil/brazil.poly ) é muito grande. Pesquisando a solução eis que tenho que: a)

Re: [Talk-br] Progresso com os mapas do IBGE

2014-03-09 Thread Bráulio Bhavamitra
Oi Thiago, Se for o caso, oferece uma máquina com acesso remoto, muita memória e hd e um razoável poder de processamento para você processar mais coisas... abraços! bráulio 2014-03-07 18:02 GMT-03:00 Thiago Marcos P. Santos tmpsan...@gmail.com: Olá pessoal, Consegui gerar tiles estáticos a

Re: [Talk-br] [OpenStreetMap] #4902: Warnings for deleting/merging relation members

2014-03-09 Thread Tom Hughes
On 14/02/14 17:55, Fernando Trebien wrote: Sorry for double posting, but I wanted to provide an example. These four relations: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20391254 If you want to comment on a ticket use the web interface - sending email to trac@ will achieve exactly nothing as the

Re: [Talk-br] Proposta de padronização de lombadas no Brasil

2014-03-09 Thread Fernando Trebien
É bem como o John falou, não fomos nós (comunidade brasileira) que inventamos essa distinção. Então, ao traduzir, temos que optar por não traduzir, ou achar o nome adequado em português. Não traduzir algo que tem equivalente brasileiro me parece desperdiçar a oportunidade de agregar informação.

Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 65, assunto 93

2014-03-09 Thread Clément Vialle
Ola gente, obrigado pelas ricas informações, vou ver se consigo fazer o mais certo para as comunidades...Abs Clément Vialle (71) 9627 3415 Mestre em Engenharia Ambiental Urbana - UFBA Consultor em Transporte e Mobilidade Urbana 2014-02-19 16:08 GMT-03:00 talk-br-requ...@openstreetmap.org:

[Talk-br] Área para circos, eventos, etc

2014-03-09 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Para quem também tem dificuldade em representar áreas para eventos, circos, festas e similares, é bom apoiar esta proposta: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents Está havendo uma discussão agora nessa thread

[Talk-br] Kit para compilação Garmin em Windows e mapas Garmin para download

2014-03-09 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Pessoal, Hoje conseguimos compilar os mapas do Brasil e do RJ para Garmin em ambiente Windows usando os dados do Projeto Openstreetmap. Também já havia sido disponibilizado o shell script para compilação em ambiente Unix ( http://cocardl.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=23t=42). Para este ambiente

[Talk-br] Petição para abrir o CEP

2014-03-09 Thread Vitor George
Oi pessoal, Uma petição para abrir a base do CEP: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Paulo_Bernardo_Silva_presidente_dos_Correios_e_Telegrafos_Tornar_aberta_e_gratuita_a_base_de_dados_de_CEPs_do_Brasil/ Vitor ___ Talk-br mailing list

Re: [Talk-br] Petição para abrir o CEP

2014-03-09 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Excelente, vou divulgar nos meus círculos. []s 2014-03-09 22:11 GMT-03:00 Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com: Oi pessoal, Uma petição para abrir a base do CEP:

Re: [Talk-br] Petição para abrir o CEP

2014-03-09 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Assinado, entretanto, acredito que a opção pelo avaaz.org não foi uma boa ideia. Minha avó não vai conseguir assinar esse petição :) Em 9 de março de 2014 22:11, Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com escreveu: Oi pessoal, Uma petição para abrir a base do CEP:

Re: [Talk-de] Reihenhäuser / 3D-Tagging // Re: 1000 Hausnummern

2014-03-09 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo, Am 09.03.2014 00:18, schrieb Ralf GESELLENSETTER: Und schließlich: 3D-Tagging ist Tagging NUR für den Renderer, oder? Nein. Man kann mit 3D-Daten in OSM (Anzahl Vollgeschosse, First- und Traufhöhen usw.) mehr machen als nur 3D-Ansichten

Re: [Talk-de] Reihenhäuser / 3D-Tagging // Re: 1000 Hausnummern

2014-03-09 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hallo Ralf, Selbst tagging NUR für den Renderer wäre im Grunde doch okay. Problematisch wird es, wenn NUR für den Renderer, aber GEGEN korrekte Daten oder GEGEN andere Anwendungen getagged wird. Das, wo taggen für (und natürlich insbesondere NUR für) den Renderer, kritisiert wird, betrifft vor

Re: [Talk-de] Reihenhäuser / 3D-Tagging // Re: 1000 Hausnummern

2014-03-09 Thread Falk Zscheile
Am 9. März 2014 10:45 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Hallo Ralf, Selbst tagging NUR für den Renderer wäre im Grunde doch okay. Problematisch wird es, wenn NUR für den Renderer, aber GEGEN korrekte Daten oder GEGEN andere Anwendungen getagged wird. Das, wo taggen für (und

Re: [Talk-it] Elenco Ufficiale Aree EUAP

2014-03-09 Thread Aury88
teoricamente la limitazione è dovuta alla clausola ShareAlike (-SA) della licenza...la licenza stessa indica che per ShareAlike non è necessario che sia per forza una Cc, l'importante è che sia una licenza compatibile/equivalente alla Cc+Clausole presenti. questo potrebbe andare bene in questo

Re: [Talk-it] Elenco Ufficiale Aree EUAP

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:00 schrieb Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: l'importante è che sia una licenza compatibile/equivalente alla Cc+Clausole presenti. questo potrebbe andare bene in questo caso per noi perchè la Odbl è di fatto una Cc-SA-By, dipende del caso di utilizzo, la odbl consente

Re: [Talk-it] Elenco Ufficiale Aree EUAP

2014-03-09 Thread Daniele Forsi
Il 08 marzo 2014 17:12, Guido Salemme ha scritto: immaginavo :-( però sarebbe bello fare pressioni su qualcuno per renderli compatibili ma siamo sicuri che la qualità sia adatta? e quante ne mancano in OSM che sono presenti in quei dati? Secondo la Gazzetta Ufficiale le aree protette sono 871

Re: [Talk-it] Elenco Ufficiale Aree EUAP

2014-03-09 Thread Aury88
dieterdreist wrote Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:00 schrieb Aury88 lt; spacedriver88@ gt;: l'importante è che sia una licenza compatibile/equivalente alla Cc+Clausole presenti. questo potrebbe andare bene in questo caso per noi perchè la Odbl è di fatto una Cc-SA-By, dipende del caso di

[Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread scratera
...qualcuno può dare un occhio in zona ...sembrerebbe che l'utente http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Simone%20Alesi ...abbia fatto un po' di confusione...forse @niubii ce ne capisce qualcosa... -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/zona-Gran-Sasso-tp5799198.html Sent

Re: [Talk-it] Elenco Ufficiale Aree EUAP

2014-03-09 Thread Luigi Toscano
Aury88 wrote: dieterdreist wrote Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:00 schrieb Aury88 lt; spacedriver88@ gt;: l'importante è che sia una licenza compatibile/equivalente alla Cc+Clausole presenti. questo potrebbe andare bene in questo caso per noi perchè la Odbl è di fatto una Cc-SA-By, dipende

Re: [Talk-it] Elenco Ufficiale Aree EUAP

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-09 19:20 GMT+01:00 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: senza copiare o ricalcare potrei utilizzare questa conoscenza ,derivata dalla visione della loro mappa, per definire il confine nord dell'area protetta sfruttando la ortofoto PCN presente nell'editor (che posso ricalcare)? credo

Re: [Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-03-09 19:38 GMT+01:00 scratera piz...@alice.it: ...qualcuno può dare un occhio in zona ...sembrerebbe che l'utente http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Simone%20Alesi ...abbia fatto un po' di confusione...forse @niubii ce ne capisce qualcosa... confermo, visto che abbiamo fatto un

Re: [Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread scratera
...più che altro ho notato più way sovrapposte una sull'altra con diffrenti tag... dieterdreist wrote 2014-03-09 19:38 GMT+01:00 scratera lt; pizpiz@ gt;: ...qualcuno può dare un occhio in zona ...sembrerebbe che l'utente http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Simone%20Alesi ...abbia fatto

Re: [Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread Pier88
Mi unisco alla discussione visto che ho segnalato io l'anomalia a Scratera. In certi punti, come nella zona dei due Corni, si notano più way sovrapposte (anche 4-5) mappate in modo molto approssimativo. Per esempio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/42.47035/13.56154 Senza contare che il

Re: [Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
C'è qualcuno che si offre a scrivere una mail gentile all'utente per segnalarlo i problemi e per offrire aiuto? Se fosse di zona, ancora meglio. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread Pier88
dieterdreist wrote C'è qualcuno che si offre a scrivere una mail gentile all'utente per segnalarlo i problemi e per offrire aiuto? Se fosse di zona, ancora meglio. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@

Re: [Talk-it] zona Gran Sasso

2014-03-09 Thread Leonardo
Scusate ma la maggior parte sono highway=footway. È corretto? :-/ Il 09/03/2014 22:32, Pier88 ha scritto: dieterdreist wrote C'è qualcuno che si offre a scrivere una mail gentile all'utente per segnalarlo i problemi e per offrire aiuto? Se fosse di zona, ancora meglio. ciao, Martin

[Talk-it] Import Civici Pavia e Rimini

2014-03-09 Thread Leonardo
Ciao a tutti, recentemente su Hangout si è discusso dei civici di Rimini e Pavia, che sono rilasciati come Opendata. Io li avrei pronti a breve e taggati correttamente, se nessuno si offre interessato o ha qualche obiezione provvederei a caricarli, avvisando prima il DWG tramite una mail.

Re: [Talk-it] Import Civici Pavia e Rimini

2014-03-09 Thread Simone Cortesi
2014-03-10 0:06 GMT+01:00 Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com: Io li avrei pronti a breve e taggati correttamente, se nessuno si offre interessato o ha qualche obiezione provvederei a caricarli, avvisando prima il DWG tramite una mail. Ovviamente verranno integrati con i (pochi) dati già presenti,

[Talk-it] Stazione meteorologica

2014-03-09 Thread demon.box
Ciao a tutti! Per mappare una stazione meteorologica c'è il tag: man_made=monitoring_station ma se questa si trova posizionata in cima ad un palo molto alto che sarebbe man_made=tower come si tagga? Grazie. --enrico -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-it] Import Civici Pavia e Rimini

2014-03-09 Thread Leonardo
Grazie degli input Simone, ho una mezza idea per farlo. Al massimo chiedo qui in lista ai nostri maghi dello script! Leonardo Il 10/03/2014 00:12, Simone Cortesi ha scritto: 2014-03-10 0:06 GMT+01:00 Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com: Io li avrei pronti a breve e taggati correttamente, se

Re: [Talk-ee] omavalitsuste teederegistri andmed.

2014-03-09 Thread Manuel Hohmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kust saab neid andmeid leida? Ma vaatasin maaamet.ee, aga sealt ma ei leidnud midagi. Aga siit ma leidsin nimekirju: https://teeregister.riik.ee/mnt/index/net.do?netSelection=KOH Õige vaatlus et Keila vallas nimed puuduvad... Mis need teenumbrid on?

[Talk-cat] GPS per a waypoints

2014-03-09 Thread Carlos Sánchez
He estat mirant la wiki de l'OSM per veure mètodes més ràpids per enregistrar POIs. He vist que una manera més lleugera seria mitjançant el registre de waypoints i l'edició de tags posteriorment. No sé molt bé si fa falta un aparell GPS o amb un smartphone faria el pes. Estic interesat en guardar

[Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-09 Thread Adam Martin
Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings, usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are there to provide switching and distribution of communications

[Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread Petr Vejsada
Ahoj, už před nějakou dobou jsem objevil http://www.geoportalpraha.cz/cs/vydej-a-prijem lépe pak http://www.geoportalpraha.cz/uploads/assets/stranky/vydej-prijem/Cenik_URM.pdf , strana 2 a nakonec jsem se rozhodl podělit se, protože toto mi fakt hlava nebere. Data jsou poskytována zdarma,

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread Jachym Cepicky
No, zní to jako téma pro OSGeo.cz, přeposílám v kopii na Honzu Cibulku, který má z nás asi největší zkušenosti - (s obojím, tedy jak s vymáháním dat, tak s případným zostuzováním). IMHO, jedná se o úřední dílo, z principu je poznámka o zabezpečení proti zneužití naprosto irelevatní. Jáchym On

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread Petr Vejsada
Díky, to je super, že je tu někdo zkušený. Oni to řeší smluvní pokutou - pokud bych data zneužil či nezabezpečil či předal dál, měl bych platit smluvní pokutu ve výši stonásobku manipulačního poplatku, proti čemuž by se následně asi bránit dalo, ale s pochybným výsledkem a natolik OSM zase

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread jzvc
Cus, pokud jde o uredni dilo ... jako ze tomu vse nasvedcuje, tak jsou nesmyslny i ty manipulacni poplatky. Nebot vypaleni/ulozeni dat v digitalni podobne na nejake medium jiste nestoji desitky tisic. IMO typicky priklad jak vyjebavat se 106tkou. Jinak mozna hint ... tyhle piratsky akce radi

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread Petr Vejsada
Ahoj, Dne Ne 9. března 2014 11:49:31, jzvc napsal(a): Cus, pokud jde o uredni dilo ... jako ze tomu vse nasvedcuje, tak jsou nesmyslny i ty manipulacni poplatky. Nebot vypaleni/ulozeni dat v digitalni podobne na nejake medium jiste nestoji desitky tisic. IMO typicky priklad jak vyjebavat

Re: [Talk-cz] Stav OTM Was: Re: značkový klíč, castle_type, wayside_shrine

2014-03-09 Thread Marián Kyral
Takže ve zkratce: OTM běží ze setrvačnosti, nikdo se o to pravděpodobně nestará a asi to ani nikdo nepoužívá. Marián Dne 8.3.2014 09:45, Petr Vejsada napsal: Ahoj, kdysi jsem si stáhl ze svn na doméně no-ip.org xml styly pro Mapnik a z těch vychází vlastně ta moje mapa. Bylo to pro Mapnik

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread hanoj
Data jsou poskytována zdarma, platí se pouze manipulační poplatek za jejich výdej. Jeden by si řekl, že je to pochopitelné, že DVD něco stojí a práce s tím je, ale už je méně pochopitelné, že data musím následně zabezpečit proti zneužití - ??? co to sakra má být? - a nesmím je poskytovat dál.

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread Petr Vejsada
Ahoj, co tedy vlastně jsou geodata? Může to být databáze či kartografické dílo (podle AZ)? Kartografické dílo asi ne; pod tím si představuji mapu vnímatelnou smysly, obvykle zrakem, případně hmatem, interaktivní mapa třeba i zvuková, ale samotná data asi ne. A co je vlastně ten rejstřík?

Re: [Talk-cz] Geoportál Praha - to mi hlava nebere

2014-03-09 Thread jzvc
Dne 9.3.2014 12:09, Petr Vejsada napsal(a): Ahoj, Dne Ne 9. března 2014 11:49:31, jzvc napsal(a): Cus, pokud jde o uredni dilo ... jako ze tomu vse nasvedcuje, tak jsou nesmyslny i ty manipulacni poplatky. Nebot vypaleni/ulozeni dat v digitalni podobne na nejake medium jiste nestoji desitky

Re: [OSM-ja] 城の石垣跡のタグについて

2014-03-09 Thread Jun NOGATA
野方です。 2014年3月9日 11:58 yuu hayashi hayashi@gmail.com: 林です。 わたしは barrier=city_wall としています。 現地調査で高さや材質がわかれば追記しています。 積み方などはdesctioptionに書いてます。 barrier=city_wallですか。それもちょっと考えました。 高さや材質は、まだ書いてませんがそれも書けますよね。 積み方は、descriptionですか。そこまでは考えてなかったですね。参考になります。 barrier=city_wall は、 area=yes

Re: [OSM-ja] 学校などの書き方について

2014-03-09 Thread Jun NOGATA
野方です。 そういえば、神社やお寺をエリアで書いてノードを置く人もいますが、 これも警告で引っかかりますね。 2014年3月8日 22:01 Jun NOGATA noga...@gmail.com: 野方です。 東さん、飯田さんありがとうございます。 たしかに東さんのおっしゃる原則は分かっていたのですが… 2014年3月8日 18:16 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: いちおうの指針として、こんなかんじのものがありました。 (こちらはAreaとして描いています)

Re: [Talk-us] maproulette.org

2014-03-09 Thread James Mast
Martijn, the bad versions of the relation pages are back from the beginning of February. :( From: m...@rtijn.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 21:55:37 -0800 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] maproulette.org Hi all, I fixed the relation pages problem. It turns out that

Re: [Talk-TW] 2014過年後的Mapping Party-3/15關渡自然公園

2014-03-09 Thread Dennis Raylin Chen
由於活動細節一直到最近才能確定 剩下的活動籌畫被壓縮 加上本人太忙一直沒時間好好弄 宣傳上也來不及 原訂的3/15 mapping party取消 關度、竹圍一帶是好地方 查資料時發現挺多好玩有趣的東西 Dennis 2014-01-22 1:46 GMT+08:00 Dennis Raylin Chen b92612...@gmail.com: 各位好 好久沒辦mapping party了 先前在OSM台北月聚,跟egret討論過年後該來辦mapping party,覺得時間上來說過年後會適合 而跟我比較熟的上官聊了後,權橫我們三人的時間,只有3/15可以

Re: [Talk-TW] 2014過年後的Mapping Party-3/15關渡自然公園

2014-03-09 Thread Liang-chih Shang Kuan
謝謝瑞霖說明 抱歉我也是事情炸開,原本3/15的party也要主辦 結果後來國中同學的婚禮這天要去,人整天不在台北... 之後我再跟瑞霖確認地方和做宣傳分工 上官 Dennis Raylin Chen b92612...@gmail.com 於 2014年3月9日 下午11:05 寫道: 由於活動細節一直到最近才能確定 剩下的活動籌畫被壓縮 加上本人太忙一直沒時間好好弄 宣傳上也來不及 原訂的3/15 mapping party取消 關度、竹圍一帶是好地方 查資料時發現挺多好玩有趣的東西 Dennis 2014-01-22 1:46