Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-19 Thread Pierre Béland
J'ai ajouté short_name pour le Québec, mais je pense effectivement que c'est inutile à comparer avec Ontario. Dans ce cas, le ON fonctionne sans doute à cause de state_code=ON. Et effectivement, lorsque les relations de territoires sont ajoutées et fonctionnelles, les is_in et addr:province

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-19 Thread Matthew Darwin
Pierre, This is a good idea, and I plan to do it.   My current challenge is to know what things people think "need correction".  I'm starting these discussions to see if there is any consensus before I go writing code.  If you (or anyone else) has ideas, please do post here (or email

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-19 Thread Matthew Darwin
Searching on "110 Laurier Avenue West, on" in Nominatim already works (it finds Ottawa City hall) even though the address has no addr:province tag for City Halle.  So I don't think this is a good reason to be adding addr:province/addr:province:short_name tags. IMO.  Unless there is another use

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland
J'ai fait recherche  «Toronto, On» Cela fonctionne. Peut-etre a cause de «state_code=ON»   Pierre Le samedi 10 mars 2018 15:39:53 HNE, john whelan a écrit : So you're suggesting adding short_name='ON' to ones that have addr:province=Ontario How would that

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland
Non, inutile si relations. Dans relation province d'Ontario- ajouter short_name='ON'. De cette façon, Recherche Toronto, ON devrait fonctionner. A essayer :)   Pierre Le samedi 10 mars 2018 15:39:53 HNE, john whelan a écrit : So you're suggesting adding

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread john whelan
So you're suggesting adding short_name='ON' to ones that have addr:province=Ontario How would that work? addr:province=Ontario addr:province:short_name=ON ? Merci John On 10 March 2018 at 15:27, Pierre Béland wrote: > John, on doit essayer d'être plus intuitif et permettre

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread Pierre Béland
John, on doit essayer d'être plus intuitif et permettre les deux façons de rechercher. Cela peut se faire simplement en ajoutant dans la relation province d'Ontario, short_name='ON'. Pour revenir aux suggestions de Matthew, de façon à impliquer / motiver les communautés locales, ce serait

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-10 Thread john whelan
For Ontario I would suggest following the post office guidelines for province and using ON rather than a mixture of ON and Ontario. That way it makes it easier to find an address since you just need to search for ON. Currently you would need to search for both variations. Cheerio John On 8 Mar

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-09 Thread Pierre Béland
Matthew, Tu fais du travail très louable. En même temps, il est important pour certains éléments de connaitre le contexte local. Chaque province a ses règles au niveau des noms et il y a du ménage à faire. Par exemple, il y a eu un import massif de noms à partir de la base GNS. Ces données ne

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-09 Thread James
is addr:province even needed? province boundaries are pretty well defined and could be dropped On Mar 8, 2018 11:28 PM, "Matthew Darwin" wrote: > > So I've tidied up the addr:province/state tags, now using only > addr:province, leaving anything that would be generally

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-03-08 Thread Matthew Darwin
So I've tidied up the addr:province/state tags, now using only addr:province, leaving anything that would be generally considered "correct" either spelt out in full or using English provincial abbreviation as you might use in a mailing address. Also left "Quebec" (no accent). I would rather

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Hi Clifford, > > (It was good to meet you at SOTM US last year). > > Thanks for your comments... The situation with addr:city appears to me to > be more complex than the situation with addr:province/addr:country, along

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi John, If we want to be able generate mailing addresses from OSM (is that a valid use case?), then whatever the city address Canada Post thinks we are in needs to be tagged in some fashion.   Google maps and Bing maps both think I'm in "Kanata".  OSM thinks I'm in "Kanata North". Both are

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-19 Thread Clifford Snow
Matthew, Just one concern - Removing of addr:city. I encourage people to include addr:city since it's part of their mailing address and could easily be outside of the city limits. While addr:city isn't needed inside of city boundaries since it can be obtained from their spatial location, does make

[Talk-ca] Cleanup of addr:country, addr:province, addr:state

2018-02-16 Thread Matthew Darwin
Hi all, During the discussion of cleaning up municipality names in Canada, it was suggested that the addr:city could be removed entirely if the appropriate boundaries are defined.   I would hazard to guess (and will endeavour to investigate) that the addr:city and the boundaries do not

Re: [Talk-ca] cleanup

2012-05-28 Thread alouette955
-Message d'origine- From: Richard Weait Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 11:20 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] cleanup On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Allison andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: So the redaction has began. Not as far as I can tell

[Talk-ca] cleanup

2012-04-09 Thread Andrew Allison
So the redaction has began. Any idea how long it will take? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] cleanup

2012-04-09 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Allison andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: So the redaction has began. Not as far as I can tell. But it will start without notice, with the small area tests. Latest update. http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/05/license-change-update-getting-it-right/

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-06 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-06 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:56 PM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Richard

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-02 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I suggest that we can have more tainted data removed automatically, It appears that the bot is deleting ways more extensive than those proposed. Ah,

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I suggest that we can have more

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-03-01 Thread Tyler Gunn
Objects edited only by those two non-agreed accounts, regardless of the current version number.  (Provided these  objects are not natural=coastline objects.)  That will remove a number of objects that were imported by one of these accounts and then modified by the other. That should clear up

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-02-29 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The first pass on the clean up started a few hours ago. It's complete now. The summary of the bulk removal is as follows: About 66% of the nodes, 70%

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-02-01 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The first pass on the clean up started a few hours ago. It's complete now. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Gordon Dewis gor...@pinetree.org wrote: Could the impacted objects have an attributed added to them so we can easily review the impact before they're deleted? Could help us plan replacement strategies. I suppose you could whip up a viewer like that, but editing

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Andrew Allison
On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 13:23 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: Most of the Canadian data that needs cleaning is very low impact. Two of the high-volume decline accounts are primarily imports that have not been subsequently edited. That means the effected data can easily be re-imported for a

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Andrew Allison andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: I'm currently removing / replacing the data in the London area. I just had a look and London looks much better than last time I looked at it. Nice job! How many mappers are there out there, that are recreating

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:24 AM To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: [Talk-ca] Cleanup Most of the Canadian data that needs cleaning is very low impact. Two of the high-volume decline accounts are primarily imports that have

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleanup

2012-01-26 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Also, what do you mean by known-bad accounts? low-quality edits by accounts that aren't going to agree. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org