Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

On 08/05/2019 12:27, Martin Wynne wrote: How should I tag this? It's a former phone box in use to advertise the attractions of the local pub. I don't know if it was done by the pub, or by the local community. Possibly it's a community-run pub. It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind of

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 08/05/2019 02:18, seirra blake wrote: is there any articles on what does/doesn't get used on particular zoom levels? just figure it wouldn't hurt to double check my general understanding This cropped up on the forum recently - see https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=747326#p

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

On 27/04/2019 18:10, Martin Wynne wrote: barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any. I'd use a "step_count" tag for how many steps there are ("steps" has also been used, often by me, but is probably less

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details 4000 of those: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is? Best Regards, Andy _

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of amenity=university within the University of Cambridge

On 07/04/2019 12:28, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: I've noticed that there are rather a lot of amenity=university objects in Cambridge,... What do other people think? Could we get an agreement to at least remove the amenity=university tags from buildings etc within each larger university s

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

On 04/04/2019 11:05, Philip Barnes wrote: I believe they were the zones covered by plusbus tickets. I believe (and Stuart will know far more about this than me!) they predate the widescale adoption of PlusBus in the UK. Certainly when PlusBus was introduced in Chesterfield it didn't match the

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

On 04/04/2019 10:48, Stuart Reynolds wrote: What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are you meaning the definition of a stop as a fare stage, or as part of a zone? Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38387740 (that's one that I haven't deleted yet) Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

On 04/04/2019 09:38, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Back in the day of the original NapPTAN import we imported pay scale areas - tagged as public_transport=pay_scale_area. I don't know why we ever did this - there's no evidence on the ground and it's highly unlikely that any OSM data consum

Re: [Talk-GB] Milton Keynes Redways - How to Tag Consistently

On 21/03/2019 13:35, Ed Loach wrote: How tagging changes over time... RichardF wrote: highway=cycleway, segregated=no achieves all that in two tags rather than seven. :) I remember https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_Mapping_Party_2009 where it looks like we (or at least I) only

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

On 18/03/2019 23:41, Warin wrote: For a chimney that is surrounded by a building  I used the shadow of the chimney vs the shadow of the building. That may be more feasible more of the time where you live than where I do! Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

On 18/03/2019 21:05, Neil Matthews wrote: P.S. Any suggestions  on how I can measure buildings "on-foot" greatly apreciated... If you can't get hold of one of these*: https://www.aols.org/archives/historical-artifacts?page=13 , and if you're after the heights of large buildings in a city

[Talk-GB] "UK-centric" OSM-based maps (was: Common Land has stopped rendering)

On 18/03/2019 13:06, John Aldridge wrote: There should, IMO, be a general purpose UK styled rendering on the front page of https://osmuk.org/ There is/was a discussion about a "UK-centric" map for OSM UK, some of which was below https://www.loomio.org/g/R8DGJMfk/openstreetmap-uk-project-ma

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

On 15/03/2019 20:30, Martin Wynne wrote: It all comes back to my previous question -- is highway= intended to *describe* the feature, Yes, although other tags can help add more detail or indicate its legal status, Not really, though you can assume that (for example) you can't cycle down

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

On 15/03/2019 18:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? Sort-of - depending on other tags https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html can display things differently based on that, but it'd be a pretty

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

On 15/03/2019 19:21, Martin Wynne wrote: To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of mor

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

On 14/03/2019 15:55, Martin Wynne wrote: ... . Do you mean wheel ruts, footprints? I really, really wouldn't worry about it.  There are always edge cases - just pick whatever seems most appropriate to you.  You've been there, other people haven't been, and while a photo is useful it's only o

Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District NationalPark

On 13/03/2019 21:28, Paul Berry wrote: Relation looks OK to me but I can't see the name at any zoom level: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287917 Looks OK at https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=8&lat=54.228&lon=-2.569 , so I guess OSM's renderer will catch up. Best R

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of Argos stores

On 10/03/2019 14:58, Donald Noble wrote: I had a quick look, and Argos stores in the UK seem to be tagged in multiple ways ... Hi Donald, Here's shop tag usage globally: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values and in the UK: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/shop#values

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

On 07/03/2019 13:56, Gregory Marler wrote: 1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names? 2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more localised aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at least having latitude and longitude in separate co

[Talk-GB] StreetComplete (was: Marking closed businesses)

On 07/03/2019 10:22, David Woolley wrote: On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote: As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth asking the Street Complete developers to add information about businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already? I've never hea

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

> but it's a rare bridleway that is only wide enough for a horse, As DaveF has already suggested, I suspect that's hugely geographically variable - I can think of a few examples in Derbyshire, Notts and Yorkshire where "public bridleways" couldn't accommodate a horse, unless it wasn't much bigg

Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

On 25/02/2019 10:09, Brian Prangle wrote: I've tagged a couple with amenity=telephone, advertising=screen, wifi=free, device_charging=usb, operator=InLink BT If those take off I'll try and add another telephone variant to https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=17&lat=-25.005025&l

Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

On 23/02/2019 23:04, Adam Snape wrote: Most of the heights should be derivable from OS Open Data mapping layers ... or from out of copyright OS data.  Hills don't change their height much over a human timescale. Best Regards, Andy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Database of British and Irish hills

On 11/02/2019 23:31, Silent Spike wrote: I recently came across the DoBIH  which you can see is licensed under CC BY 3.0. At least one user claims already asked for permission to use this data: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/36758689

Re: [Talk-GB] High Speed 2 route mapping

On 21/01/2019 11:57, Jez Nicholson wrote: and, is there any advice or links to discussion on the addition of proposed railway lines? It was mentioned on the mailing list, I think, at the time that the original proposed lines were added.  I'm not aware of any changes to the route since

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

On 09/01/2019 18:11, Jez Nicholson wrote: Seeking your input... One thing that struck me when I had to start planning for getting from A to B with someone on a mobility scooter or in a wheelchair was that the "obvious" things (kerbs etc.) weren't the biggest issue - it was things like the exa

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing highway=ford to ford=yes.

On 07/01/2019 12:37, Mike Baggaley wrote: I think that if an intersecting highway and waterway are mapped just as lines, then these represent the full width of the highway and waterway and it is illogical to use a line or area to represent the ford. If either the highway or waterway is mapped

[Talk-GB] Mountain Rescue Posts

Hello, One thing that I noticed when trying to add a specific icon to a map for mountain rescue posts was that although there is some usage of https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=mountain_rescue and slightly less of https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/emergency=mountain_rescue t

Re: [Talk-GB] Guildford Blackwell Farm redevelopment

Is their anyone in the Guildford area who can verify these edits by a new user please? They look like a part of the town's planned expansion, but I'm assuming Adam got a bit ahead of himself. He's also overlapped roads onto the railway. I've put in a changeset message to him. http://osmlab.git

[Talk-GB] Pub dress codes and "no swearing" rules

As I write this, I'm sat in a Sam Smith's pub.  As per other Sam Smith's pubs, it has big "no swearing policy" signs inside.  There's one use of "swearing" in OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Hi everyone

On 04/11/2018 08:53, Jez Nicholson wrote: Finally, I don't know who checks chnagesets. Can someone enlighten us please? I don't know anyone in GB who explicitly checks the "review_requested=yes" changeset tag, though it is available in QA tools such as OSMCha that can search those.  I thi

Re: [Talk-GB] Facebook Map Query - Thames rendered as Thanames

On 26/10/2018 10:56, Dave F wrote: I'd be more concerned that on Facebook's mobile website (Android/Silk Browser) that image clicks through to Google Maps. I suspect it depends (I did look into issues related to this in response to some DWG* tickets).  The maps you saw depending on where you w

Re: [Talk-GB] Strange edit to admin_level on England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland

On 16/09/18 11:37, Colin Smale wrote: Hi, An infrequent mapper "Ant Ko" has changed the admin_level on the UK nations to 3 (used to be 4). The changeset comment is: They're semi-indie units and NOT regions,and you HAVE to know it. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62629726 I

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

On 29/08/2018 20:25, Toby Speight wrote: Thanks for that - it predates my joining this list. It seems to (partially) answer only my first question - it's to benefit those who don't like their rendering (on paper/screen or on a navigation device). That's why we have rendering rules - if you don'

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping horse steps?

On 27/08/18 13:32, Edward Catmur wrote: amenity=horse_dismount_block has 4 occurrences, all in the north of England. I think I'm responsible for half of those - happy to pick a different tag if someone's got a better idea! There are actually a selection of tags used for this sort of thing:

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 08/08/18 10:34, Dave F wrote: On 08/08/2018 08:30, Andy Townsend wrote:  The tags "highway_authority_ref" "admin_ref" and "official_ref" are assumed to be unsigned. One of the items on my 'things to do' list was to search for & amalgamate

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

For completeness, I have updated https://map.atownsend.org.uk to show unsigned road names in brackets and unsigned refs in brackets at the end of the name.  The tags "highway_authority_ref" "admin_ref" and "official_ref" are assumed to be unsigned. Examples: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

"Public right of way references, along with stiles and kissing gates, are for example rendered on Andy Townsend's specialist walking map." That already has an idea about "unsigned names and refs" and at some point I'll add various unsigned road refs in brackets like PROW refs and other combina

Re: [Talk-GB] Brewshop Tagging

On 29/07/18 14:33, SK53 wrote: This is how I mapped the one I surveyed last year in West Norwood https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5139756811. Avoid shop=beverage, these are shop=alcohol. That's what I went with for https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4336173634 - that one is mostly bottle

[Talk-GB] Guideposts and Public Footpath signs

Hi all, I've noticed that a few people up in parts of North Yorkshire have been adding "information=guidepost" for public footpath / bridleway signs such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5570785235 .  At first glance this seemed odd - your typical GB public footpath sign doesn't have any

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway Platforms - Covered=yes are not shown in latest rendering

On 29/05/2018 14:53, Tony Shield wrote: Checked that my changes had rendered ok but found to my horror that the platforms had disappeared. Investigations showed - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kocio/diary - OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.11.0

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway level crossings

On 24/05/18 19:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 24 May 2018 at 17:37, Jez Nicholson wrote: But Martin (and others) _could_ use the web site to prompt investigations into crossing locations and manually add/edit in OSM. + 1 Or we could just ask them to release the data under an open licence. Is th

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

On 05/05/2018 14:24, Adam Snape wrote: However, we cannot know from our armchairs whether a store is disused but still signed, disused with all signage removed, demolished, or replaced by another business. Because if this we cannot fix the map merely by deleting the relevant shops. That is re

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

Taking as read the arguments in for and against a mechanical edit for possibly closed shops* it'd be great if shops that we definitely know are now closed could be properly tagged as what they are now, so for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1485964357#map=19/53.98855/-1.09350 can th

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 01/05/2018 12:43, David Woolley wrote: On 01/05/18 12:23, David Woolley wrote: I don't know about your tool, but it is essential that every user has an explicit personal account with OSM, and that they are set up to receive emails if people add changeset comments, or post messages to their

Re: [Talk-GB] Implicit speed limits: What to tag in built-up areas?

On 01/05/2018 12:23, David Woolley wrote: I don't know about your tool, but it is essential that every user has an explicit personal account with OSM, and that they are set up to receive emails if people add changeset comments, or post messages to their OSM account.  maps.me has a high incide

Re: [Talk-GB] Bottle Kilns

On 05/04/2018 13:18, Russ Phillips wrote: I'm intending to map the bottle kilns in Stoke on Trent. For those that don't know, they're an important part of the area's industrial heritage (there were several thousand of them at the height of the pottery industry). There are 47 now, and just under

Re: [Talk-GB] Problematic edits to access and oneway tags

On 29/03/2018 15:24, Will Phillips wrote: Also, does anyone know which validation tool is being used and whether these are paid mappers? The 7 changes around Nottingham have been made by 5 different editors all operating in a very similar way. None of them has yet responded to changeset comme

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapnik styling

On 23/01/2018 13:21, Jez Nicholson wrote: I am currently working with mapnik to render Ordnance Survey VectorMap District. Which is the 'best' stylesheet format to use? Mapnik XML or CartoCSS or a.n.other? Of the two I'd definitely suggest CartoCSS rather than raw Mapnik XML - I've tried

Re: [Talk-GB] Mistagging of old telephone boxes

For info: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility most of the editors there have a reasonable history of discussing these things so there's a good chance they know what they're talking about (more so than me when it comes to licences, certainly) so I'd be tempted to trus

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN merge tool?

On 22/12/2017 14:06, Ed Loach wrote: If I've understood https://kofje.de/repos/naptan/novam/branches/xapi-backend/httpd.py correctly, and that is the correct source code, then the problem is that the code uses xapi and xapi.openstreetmap.org is unreachable (at least it is for me). Overpass has

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Website Data

On 21/12/2017 09:15, Ilya Zverev wrote: ... Or do you think the map does not need imports and that every shop and amenity will be mapped without them before they are out of business? Maybe it's worth having a look at an example. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245390956 is a petrol station

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 20/12/2017 12:32, Ilya Zverev wrote: Thank you everyone who participated. I noticed there has been many "fixme" tags filled during the validation. You can see them all using Overpass API: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/tUW Thanks for that - I've removed a couple of fixmes near me since they w

Re: [Talk-GB] Request for mapping assistance Hull

and Hull, apparently: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=60752 On 14/12/17 13:47, SK53 wrote: Just crossposting this message from the forum regarding mapping in Leamington Spa: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=60753 Jerry __

[Talk-GB] Display of brand/operator in GB/IE (was: Re: Importing Shell fuel stations)

On 03/11/2017 17:51, Ilya Zverev wrote: ... and I removed the "operator" tag. Somewhat related, https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=21&lat=53.1927324&lon=-1.3428004 now shows brand (or operator) in brackets after name if both are set and just brand (or operator) if name isn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Welsh language map

https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=10&lat=51.8697&lon=-5.068 also shows Welsh names in Welsh-speaking parts of Wales (using a .poly from Jerry, actually), but that's really a solution to a different problem (described at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/42069

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

Generic dots would be tricky as the style already makes a lot of use of these for shops, offices, leisure facilities, medical facilities and "historic" stuff. It'd probably need to be an actual icon and black. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Ta

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

(somewhat belatedly, re crossings) On 02/11/2017 15:42, Dave F wrote: Apologies, forgot to permalink. Try: https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=20&lat=51.3779057&lon=-2.35836 Yes, the way these are shown is a bit rubbish.  I'm assuming that it's not possible to render a sym

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 15/11/2017 07:48, Adam Snape wrote: Most map users don't understand the distinction between primary (green) and non-primary (red) A-roads so I understand why not all maps use it. Since OSM makes this distinction anyway it makes sense to use the standard uk green/red colour scheme in the UK m

[Talk-GB] Osmand, was "Re: The OSM UK map"

On 15/11/2017 09:13, Lester Caine wrote: I keep looking at OSMAND and thinking ... I must look at what is needed for a UK road theme there we have American and German! Vector display really is the way forward then one can select the right default for any area. The last time I looked at it (last

[Talk-GB] Hospital Departments (was Re: Reception desks)

Actually, prompted by Will's question below, I've always wondered about the best way to map hospital departments.  There's plenty of examples of mapping of "clinics", which would work for the more standalone departments, but there are also those that don't deal with external patients but only w

Re: [Talk-GB] Prow_ref format

On 06/11/2017 13:34, Philip Barnes wrote: I don't believe that the type is needed as it can be derived from the designation tag. ... provided that someone hasn't caused that to be lost somehow (perhaps by merging ways by mistake).  :) Also there are examples of paths on the border between t

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 20:42, Rob Nickerson wrote: ... There is no way I see us OSM craft mappers visiting all of the rest within sensible time-frames. ... Ah, silly me.  If only I (and everyone else here) had read that around 10 years ago, then we needn't have bothered mapping all that stuff in OSM,

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 14:24, Steve Doerr wrote: The postcode (S44 5HB) is certainly wrong. Probably should be S44 5HS. Euro Garages (operator of the Shell garage we're talking about) is certainly listed at that postcode, which is Markham Lane, as you say. (So are 59 other locations.) Strangely, KFC a

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 10:59, Ilya Zverev wrote: How is the address info there incorrect? Did you see the correct address of the building? Googling shows that amenities there are indeed addressed by Markham Lane, just like the Markham Vale, the business centre that contains these. I explained the lik

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

On 03/11/2017 09:55, Ilya Zverev wrote: Hi, You might remember a few months ago I discussed here importing of Shell fuel stations. The data provider is Navads, which has a contract with Shell for putting their stations on the map. They asked me to proceed with the import and sent an updated l

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 11/02/17 14:21, Dave F wrote: On 02/11/2017 13:25, Andy Townsend wrote: On 11/02/17 13:02, Dave F wrote: It's great pedestrian crossings are rendered, but the icon gets swallowed by the road way. I'd probably need to see an example of that - any chance of a permal

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map: abandoned railways may still have bridges.

On 11/02/17 13:43, Paul Berry wrote: Thirded. Examples abound but an egregious one, in this context, is the south side of Leeds City Centre where you have the Holbeck Viaduct with its 92 brick arches 3 stories high marching across the urban landscape. An extremely visible structure in realit

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 11/02/17 13:02, Dave F wrote: It's great pedestrian crossings are rendered, but the icon gets swallowed by the road way. I'd probably need to see an example of that - any chance of a permalink?  It's supposed to render on top (albeit small), but it may be I've missed something and ther

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 11/02/17 10:32, David Woolley wrote: On 31/10/17 19:04, Bob Hawkins wrote: 2. Permissive paths: I do not understand “/permissive paths need showing/ I hope this means distinguishing from public ones, rather than that they are currently not rendered! They'll currently appear like the

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 10/31/17 19:04, Bob Hawkins wrote: 1. The portrayal of barriers: we know kissing gates are not rendered in OSM but are rendered in Andy Townsend’s map.  In neither case, though, do barriers stand out strongly enough, in my opinion.  I created coloured images of a gate, kissing gate and stil

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map - signed walking routes

On 11/02/17 03:31, Andrew Black wrote:  My request. Signed walking routes such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6084014 There's logic in the style that has been forked to handle those: https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=17&lat=51.424012&lon=-0.06819 There's obvious

Re: [Talk-GB] The OSM UK map

On 30/10/2017 08:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: As you may know, the plan is to produce a UK specific OSM mapping site. A start on this has been made here: http://www.free-map.org.uk/osmuk/ using a fork of SomeoneElse (Andy)'s cartography with one very minor tweak so far, namely footpaths an

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

On 19/10/2017 13:15, Adam Snape wrote: To my mind Nominatim should use postal addresses where tagged in OSM rather than trying to interpolate a address from admin boundaries. As a backup it is better than nothing but it prodcues some bizarre results. Somebody might live in Blackburn or Darw

Re: [Talk-GB] Barriers and PRoWs

On 10/10/2017 08:59, Bob Hawkins wrote: I record all barriers - gate, kissing gate and stile - as I walk every PRoW (Public Right of Way) in the Oxfordshire Chilterns parish by parish.  I add them and prow_ref values in the form of "Checkendonh FP 12", for example, to OSM. I'll leave the Overpa

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

Not an answer, but a suggestion where there might be a bit more info... The Netherlands forum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12 might be worth a read, since the shared space concept was pioneered there; https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=54843 is directly about

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

On 01/10/2017 14:47, Adam Snape wrote: If a shared space is not a living street how should it be tagged? For "quiet lanes" (which are sort-of a rural analogue to urban "home zones") I went with "designation", and it looks like I'm not the only one: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/de

Re: [Talk-GB] Access and other tags for a particular Restricted Byway

On 29/09/2017 19:40, Philip Barnes wrote: Each needs a case by case survey, any can be motor_vehicle=private or destination. I don't think that's what http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/PRoW_Table is trying to say - it's saying "there are no motor vehicle rights granted by the

Re: [Talk-GB] Access and other tags for a particular Restricted Byway

On 29/09/2017 14:06, David Woolley wrote: 2. In white on green: RESTRICTED BYWAY/PRIVATE ROAD/NO vehicle access except for residents.  I should appreciate views on the motor_vehicle=private Does the sign really mean "no vehicle access" or "no motor vehicle access"? As I unde

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" on Dartmoor

On 25/09/2017 13:36, SK53 wrote: When this thread first started I thought we could work to remove these multiple meanings, but having seen what places with natural=heath from Corine imported-data in the Cevennes,  suspect that this is an unrealistic objective. Well just because one bad import

Re: [Talk-GB] Teaching OSM

On 12/09/2017 15:01, Dave F wrote: On 10/09/2017 11:13, Jez Nicholson wrote: Is http://learnosm.org/en/ the best resource for a 1-hour beginners' introduction? I'm sorry, but mentioning "non-government organisations" in the *beginners* *introduction* in the *first* paragraph is laughable K

Re: [Talk-GB] Teaching OSM

On 10/09/2017 11:13, Jez Nicholson wrote: Is http://learnosm.org/en/ the best resource for a 1-hour beginners' introduction? If you're trying to get people editing OSM I'd probably lean more on the iD walkthrough than that does, to be honest - and you'd need to rip a lot out of that to fit

Re: [Talk-GB] The "heath mapper in Wales" is back

On 03/09/2017 16:17, Andy Moore wrote: I'm not sure it's the same mapper as before but the end result is the same with massive areas mis-mapped and tagged, inaccurately even by the mapper's own admissions with all the FIXME tags. The thing that suggests to me that it's the same mapper is that

[Talk-GB] The "heath mapper in Wales" is back

Hi everyone, Back in February there was a discussion here about problems by large heath areas added by a "new" user - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2017-February/019895.html . The same problem is happening again.  It's a different user account, but their mapping and the

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM feature density vs edits per features

On 01/09/2017 10:55, Neil Matthews wrote: Not a member of the London OSM community, but... Also, do you think that there might also be an effect from "visiting" OSM contributors to an area? I used to regularly walk to/from occasional meetings with companies in London and map items on the wa

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

On 22/08/2017 12:23, Colin Smale wrote:  What would a "local" answer? Good luck getting a consistent answer to that :) http://ma3t.co.uk/euanmills/euanmills/tifd.html Best Regards, Andy (and apologies in advance for anyone upset by small-font profanity in the link)

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

On 15/08/2017 19:22, Brian Prangle wrote: But even local authorities and the OS get into hot water over names !(but to be fair this is a placename rather than a street name with a verifiable sign) As a k

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

On 14/08/2017 15:04, Marc Gemis wrote: So how can you determine the preferred name from looking at that sign ? From looking at the sign, you can't - but if you visit a place and open your eyes and ears it'll become pretty obvious. If you walk into a shop or a post office in the pointy bits o

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

On 14/08/2017 14:53, Marc Gemis wrote: Can I translate this to the Belgian situation to see if I understand you correctly ? Marc, Everywhere is not like Belgium. Could you try answering the question? Where there is a locally preferred name, how would I know what that was? Best Regards,

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

Hi Miguel, A question. Many places in Wales are predominantly Welsh- or predominantly English-speaking. For somewhere like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3378387351 , if "name" was a compound of both the Welsh and English names rather than the more frequently / locally used version, how

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

On 11/08/2017 17:19, Brian Prangle wrote: ... and goes to the first source of what is seen to be the authoritative source - the wiki- to seek guidance, Unfortunately, the wiki isn't always "the authoritative source". Articles written there include both "descriptive" and "prescriptive" on

Re: [Talk-GB] Latest OS Opendata

On 09/08/2017 12:44, Dave F wrote: Interesting, if only to note it's inaccuracies: a few parks are missing half of their full area in my locale. Is National Trust/CRoW land in a separate database? Actually, looking at NT land near me is pretty interesting - what is included and what is excl

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

On 10/07/2017 14:26, Stuart Reynolds wrote: I have also come across several styles of station tagging, even in my local (single line) area. What'd be really useful, actually, would someone pointing at a good "example station" in an OSM diary entry or similar and explain how the various bits a

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

On 04/07/2017 12:05, Bob Hawkins wrote: Ed I must not have made clear the situation: the bridleway is coincident with the borders of two parishes, carrying a route code for each parish, not a way crossing parish boundaries. Bob I can vaguely remember an example in Lincolnshire where the signe

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping archaeology in towns

On 15/06/2017 11:24, Derick Rethans wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Neil Matthews wrote: ... Maybe other large historic towns have good solutions; Londinium, Eboracum? I've always understood that OpenStreetMap maps what is *currently* there. Visible, and verifyable. That's pretty much the case in

Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import

Anyone got any more comments about this import and the points raised below? We (the DWG) got a complaint about it at the time (and there were a lot of "not in my name" comments on this list and on IRC), but there don't seem to have been any further comments since 27th April. Best Regards, An

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam/Marketing manipulation of mapping data

On 26/04/2017 14:27, Paul Berry wrote: I suspect that, as a marketing company, they know exactly what they're doing I suspect that too... I'll revert the changeset (47688939) if no action in 7 days. Since it's renamed part of Leeds, which is obviously wrong, I'd revert it now. Cheers, And

Re: [Talk-GB] Spam/Marketing manipulation of mapping data

On 26/04/2017 14:08, Paul Berry wrote: Hi, I presume egregious additions such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40235088 can just be reverted, deleted, or otherwise reduced in impact (eg converting to a POI rather than an area) without further comment or is there a procedure for this? Wel

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering national/regional walking trails

On 23/04/17 11:43, Elizabeth Oldham wrote: ... But I still get only a few labels rendered. My stylesheet for rendering ldpnwn is similar to yours. So I'm kind of confused as to where the magic is that places multiple labels instead of just a few? The "text-spacing" settings below https://gi

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering national/regional walking trails

On 22/04/2017 20:43, Elizabeth Oldham wrote: Anyway. I noticed on your maps you have multiple ldpnwn labels along the routes, like the Cumbria Way, and Coast to Coast. I've been unable to get more than one or two labels. I've been searching but it's usually the other way around - you have too

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