Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

2017-03-19 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 19 March 2017 at 20:55, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > However, just because I no longer spend my time batting back and forth to > every post on the lists, that does not mean I have the right to ignore the > same community guidelines which everyone else follows. Can you show

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] TfWM NaPTAN refresh

2017-02-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 15 February 2017 at 23:10, Brian Prangle wrote: > I don't understand what there is to sort out. We don't want to delete the > node and its naptan data just the bus_stop tag which the naptan:Status=DEL > indicates. If we delete the node entirely it's difficult to recover if

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] TfWM NaPTAN refresh

2017-02-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 15 February 2017 at 17:58, Brian Prangle wrote: > I've just removed the highway=bus_stop tag from any NaPTAN node that after > yesterdays' refresh carried the tag naptan:Status=DEL. There were 237 cases. > The nodes are still there, just not rendered so if there are any

Re: [Talk-GB] Propose automated edit to update NAPTAN data in the west mids

2017-02-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 3 February 2017 at 19:29, Stuart Reynolds < stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk> wrote: > Also, there is often some confusion about what name goes into which fields > - people will insist on compounding names, for example, because that’s what > their consuming system wants, rather than getting

Re: [Talk-GB] Propose automated edit to update NAPTAN data in the west mids

2017-02-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Brian, Great to see this going forward! Some technicalities: > Process overview This is not very clear to me. I think this section either needs more detail, or less (with the detail moved to the individual steps). Also, what do you mean with opening a csv in JOSM? > Each chunk will create a

Re: [Talk-GB] Restoring a usable map service!

2015-10-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 31 October 2015 at 03:09, Lester Caine wrote: > new indistinguishable rendering primary routes and motorways For my information, could you take the test on http://enchroma.com/test/instructions/ and tell me what it says? It's ok if you prefer to respond off-list. --

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Plamts Brook, North Birmingham

2015-10-11 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Andy, I hope you and everyone in Birmingham are doing fine. There seems to be a little ditch here: https://www.google.nl/maps/@52.5295575,-1.7850049,3a,65.9y,127.32h,61.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1KvjUmlAex9LK-Faj3LTxw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Could that be related? -- Matthijs On 11 October 2015

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New St station platform alignments

2015-09-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 September 2015 at 14:56, Brian Prangle wrote: > Does anyone know whether the alignment of the platforms under the concourse > is based on anything other than pure guesswork? The alignment at either end > where they can be seen in Bing doesn't look right either. I'm

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New St station platform alignments

2015-09-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 September 2015 at 14:56, Brian Prangle wrote: > Does anyone know whether the alignment of the platforms under the concourse > is based on anything other than pure guesswork? The alignment at either end > where they can be seen in Bing doesn't look right either. I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 18 Aug 2015 03:56, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: There's no interest to do this in the OSM standard style because it is abundantly clear that any new attempts at changes that make rural navigation possible* in OSM-carto would be rejected based on the ones that already have been over

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 18 August 2015 at 10:20, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/08/2015 07:43, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 18 Aug 2015 03:56, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: There's no interest to do this in the OSM standard style because it is abundantly clear that any new attempts

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 16 August 2015 at 21:06, ajt1...@gmail.com ajt1...@gmail.com That makes some sense, but OSM-Carto's biggest problem is that a number of the changes over the last year have been dedicated to making well-mapped central European urban areas look nice at the expense of the rest of the planet.

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

2015-08-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 16 August 2015 at 22:57, ajt1...@gmail.com ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: Until I provided a counter-example there, the only example on https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/747 was of a well-mapped central European city. If there is evaluation of the results in both rural and

Re: [Talk-GB] Retain existing style sheets for UK server

2015-08-08 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 8 August 2015 at 22:55, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile server? Some useful resources: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04/

Re: [Talk-GB] UK style rendering port ...

2015-07-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 July 2015 at 09:06, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: With the discussion on a more self contained 'UK' group I'd like to highlight one area that is becoming perhaps more urgent for some of us, the idea of a UK style tile set. I also think it's a good idea for the UK to create there

Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct

2015-07-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 13 July 2015 at 14:13, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I think this, and blue motorways, is a good argument for why we need a UK render of the map. I agree a UK-specific rendering would be very useful, especially now the Default style is getting less and less UK-centric. --

Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct

2015-07-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 13 July 2015 at 09:53, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I don't want fudge things to just tag for the renderer, but is there a relevant tag missing, or should we change the rendering styles to show such objects? You might be interested in this PR which is currently under

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 12 May 2015 10:57, Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. No, rendering has not changed in this respect. Maybe the tag

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting (Disabilty Kurb Project)

2015-05-08 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, I added my Bromsgrove survey to the map. I surveyed the High Street: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.33483/-2.05912 and the businesses in the industrial estates at Aston Fields: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.31863/-2.05871 -- Matthijs On 5 May 2015 at 11:19, Andy

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting (Disabilty Kurb Project)

2015-05-07 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Locator name issues. He also reminded me about postboxes. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Matthijs Melissen [mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl] Sent: 07 May 2015 01:43 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting (Disabilty Kurb Project) Brian

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting (Disabilty Kurb Project)

2015-05-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Is anyone planning to map the shops in the high street? I think it would be useful if they were added, but personally I'd prefer to come by bike and do some of the suburbs and the industrial estate. I'll also do some tracing in advance. -- Matthijs On 5 May 2015 at 11:19, Andy Robinson

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting (Disabilty Kurb Project)

2015-05-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Is anyone planning to map the shops in the high street? I think it would be useful if they were added, but personally I'd prefer to come by bike and do some of the suburbs and the industrial estate. I'll also do some tracing in advance

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] April Meeting Thursday 2nd April

2015-03-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Brian, I will be abroad, so I won't be able to make it. -- Matthijs On 26 March 2015 at 14:18, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Just a reminder that we're meeting in the Black Eagle Factory Road (nearest Metro Stop Soho Benson Road) probably from about 8 pm onwards so

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social this Thursday

2015-02-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
I will be there this Thursday (hopefully not on my own). -- Matthijs On 3 February 2015 at 09:24, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, its first Thursday of the month this week. Unfortunately I have a prior engagement but hope you all have a good meet up. At the Bull?? Cheers

Re: [Talk-GB] Unsigned road names (was Fix the road name!)

2015-01-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 January 2015 at 20:33, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: However, there are names where the name in OSM is what the local authority uses, and what local people would agree that it is called, but there's no sign on the ground. How do we reflect that? I just wanted to add that

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa Mercia events

2015-01-19 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, Some suggestions: - In Coventry there's always a lot to do, and there are not so many local mappers, so I'd suggest to revisit Coventry. - The Black Country also has gotten less attention than other places. It's probably best to meet somewhere along the railway or tramway. Would Tipton

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monthly meeting?

2015-01-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Happy new year to all of you! I'm not sure if we decided anything about the monthly meeting in the Bull tonight? I suppose because of the New Year and our meeting this Saturday we won't meet tonight, but just wanted to verify. -- Matthijs

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monthly meeting?

2015-01-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 January 2015 at 16:50, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sorted for Saturday or do you need a lift? I arranged for Jerry to pick me up from Burton. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 December 2014 at 12:33, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: I'd be tempted to add OSM notes for these containing a link to the problem node or way since http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1117527074 hasn't been touched for four years; it's likely that other shops have changed hands

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

2014-12-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 December 2014 at 17:42, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Also if anyone wants to do some mapping from home before we head out there's quite a bit to be done aligning roads, mapping landuse and/or tracing buildings. I have traced the buildings in Hanbury. -- Matthijs

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

2014-12-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 December 2014 at 17:42, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Also if anyone wants to do some mapping from home before we head out there's quite a bit to be done aligning roads, mapping landuse and/or tracing buildings. I have traced the buildings in Hanbury. -- Matthijs

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 Dec 2014 12:34, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 21/12/2014 12:02, Andrew Hain wrote: I'd be tempted to add OSM notes for these containing a link to the problem node or way since http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1117527074 hasn't been touched for four years; it's likely that

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 Dec 2014 13:57, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: Notably there are lots of Phones 4 U shops (under a variety of names). All the one's I've physically checked have been closed and have a notice from the receivers. I spotted a few that have been taken over by Vodafone and EE. I think all of

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 Dec 2014 14:40, David Woolley for...@david-woolley.me.uk wrote: In my view, they are not really bookmakers. For fixed odds, bookmaking requires no skill and for the horses, I imagine that all the bookmaking is done at head office. We decided on shop=bookmaker some time ago:

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 19 December 2014 at 12:10, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: For iD, names are suggested via https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/ , and https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/master/canonical.json is the canonical list of known good ones. I have written a

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-19 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 19 December 2014 at 12:10, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: I suggested that any plan for changes to the shop names and values that we have now would also need to address how new users decide which ones to use. For iD, names are suggested via

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
This is only an issue with the demo I generated, not with the proposal itself (in the proposal itself, I explicitly restrict changes to objects with a shop key). Thanks for pointing out this discrepancy. I generated an improved Overpass Turbo link: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6Aj -- Matthijs On

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 18 December 2014 at 12:18, Jonathan Bennett jonobenn...@gmail.com wrote: However, if local mappers could somehow be alerted to this small discrepancy, they would probably spot other things in the same area that needed updating at the same time. They might not go looking for them otherwise.

[Talk-GB] Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-12-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, In October, I proposed the following edit. For all objects within the UK tagged with shop=betting and name Betfred, Coral, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power or William Hill, the tag shop=betting will be changed into shop=bookmaker. More information can be found here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-12-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
need to be corrected. It would be great if local mappers could help with that. Kind regards, Matthijs On 18 December 2014 at 00:19, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Dear all, In October, I proposed the following edit. For all objects within the UK tagged with shop=betting

[Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, I have created a new version of my proposal to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. The list is now significantly shorter, and only contains clear errors, rather than interpretation problems of shop signs. For details, please see

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM University of Liverpool exercise (or 200 free(ish) volunteers)

2014-11-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 November 2014 at 13:50, Nick Bearman n.bear...@liverpool.ac.uk wrote: I'm looking for someone who has completed something similar in the past and has any recommendation on how to do this most effectively, and what areas in Liverpool would benefit most from the students contribution.

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM University of Liverpool exercise (or 200 free(ish) volunteers)

2014-11-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 November 2014 at 16:35, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I have metrics from my own surveys of this type, but would expect a shopping street 200 metres long would occupy a student for perhaps a couple of hours (certainly my first shopping street, Floral Street in London, took quite a long

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM University of Liverpool exercise (or 200 free(ish) volunteers)

2014-11-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 November 2014 at 21:09, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: One other point about metrics such as POI collection: it will greatly depend on POI density (city centre vs. suburbs) and the current number of POIs already mapped. It's fundamentally easier to map somewhere de novo rather than

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 20 November 2014 08:51, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: It’s not likely to be as simple as saying everywhere within a city boundary is a suburb. A simple example is the town of Sutton Coldfield which recently regained it Royal Town status, Its officially a town in every traditional

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 2 November 2014 13:24, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Because I think it is important to act as carefully as possible when executing automatic edits, I have stopped the voting, and will bring this proposal back to the discussion phase. Thank you all for your input. From

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 November 2014 15:20, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: On reflection, it would be more helpful, and less controversial, if you were to describe this process as a poll rather than a vote. That's a good suggestion, I think the word 'poll' better expresses what the intention is. I

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 November 2014 10:25, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: Are there still objections against Brantano? Yes. It says Brantano Footwear as the name on the sign on at least the two nearest stores to me. I have no objections to brand or operator being Brantano, but not the name field. As I

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 November 2014 12:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are. Whether Spar is an abbreviation is doubtful. Spar is Dutch for spruce (a species of tree), hence the logo.

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 November 2014 18:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: According to wikipedia SPAR is an acronym of Door Eendrachtig Samenwerken Profiteren Allen Regelmatig, although the DE has been dropped. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spar_(retailer)#Etymology Yes, but according to the

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 November 2014 22:17, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: I would write what it says on the sign on the shop. That's why I tag ASDA as ASDA, that's what it says on the sign. I don't look at their website, their advertising or their letter heads. I use ground truth. I'm not a trademark

Re: [Talk-GB] Post-processing shop values (was mechanical edit)

2014-11-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 3 November 2014 12:19, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: Broadly I'm not in favour of the various mechanical edits suggested. Bringing together bookmaker tags is harmless, but does little to gather in the long tail. More extensive edits both deny the undoubted value of revisiting an area

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 2 November 2014 16:11, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:24:46 + Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: - 'Brantano Footwear' versus Brantano Whilst company names do not necessarily reflect trading names I'd be inclined to take Brantano (UK

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 2 November 2014 16:01, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: So in summary: let all work on the documentation, discussions, but please work for consensus and recognise that allowing time to build that will result in an overall better dataset. I agree that seeking consensus is important, which is

[Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-02 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, During the voting phase, a number of comments on the shop renaming proposal have been brought forward that were not voiced during the discussion phase (both here and on the voting page). Because I think it is important to act as carefully as possible when executing automatic edits, I

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-02 Thread Matthijs Melissen
hope this clarifies this procedure, and I also hope it at least takes part of your worries away. Kind regards, Matthijs Melissen ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Consolidated views of notes, fixmes, musical chairs, etc.

2014-11-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 November 2014 13:52, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: It's not his fault if an armchair mapper appears to engage editor before brain and applies changes suggested by notes. In order to try and avoid people being overcome by temptation, I very often** say needs survey in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 November 2014 10:50, Will Phillips wp4...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a survey photo of mine, which is similar to the ones Ed posted: https://www.flickr.com/photos/97133921@N03/15494864347/ We should be using the name displayed on the sign, which in the examples above is clearly 'Brantano

[Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-10-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Voting is now open for the proposal to unify the names of chain shops within the UK by renaming them. Please cast your vote at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. More information can be found on this page as well. Kind regards, Matthijs

Re: [Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-10-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 November 2014 01:06, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Brantano (UK) Limited shops are all branded 'Brantano Footwear' that is their shop 'Logo' We currently have 116 times Brantano and 12 times Brantano Footwear in the UK. I would argue, apparently like most mappers, the the

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 October 2014 12:57, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Could you add Blackhouse bet http://www.backhousebet.com/p/shop-locator to the list please There is only one Blackhouse bet with shop=betting, so I don't think an automatic edit is necessary or useful in this case. -- Matthijs

[Talk-GB] Voting mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Voting is now open for the following proposal. For all objects within the UK tagged with shop=betting and name Betfred, Coral, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power or William Hill, the tag shop=betting will be changed into shop=bookmaker. Please cast your vote at

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 October 2014 10:44, Ian Caldwell ian1caldwell+...@googlemail.com wrote: You say we manually exclude bus stops (highway=bus_stop) I would have thought you should only be changing where there is a shop tag. If not your Cotswold - Cotswold Outdoor would change

Re: [Talk-GB] Mechanical shop edits (Was: RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names)

2014-10-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 October 2014 19:07, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Could you indicate how these changes relate to the Nottingham tagging scheme? Were all old tags seen as correct by your scheme? SK53, you haven't responded yet to this question. I think it's important to join

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Will, On 24 October 2014 11:42, Will Phillips wp4...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confused by your actions. Yesterday you started the formal process for making an uncontroversial change to the tagging of bookmakers, but since then you have made a series of considerably more controversial edits with

[Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For details, please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. Please let me know if you have any comments. If there are no further comments, I will invite list members to vote on this

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 October 2014 15:24, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Note that by propose what Matthijs means is have already started doing if the number of Correct tagging of XXX shops changesets by him in the last 24 hours are anything to do by: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Math1985/history Hi

Re: [Talk-GB] Mechanical shop edits (Was: RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names)

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 October 2014 17:46, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK the Nottingham area is the only place in the UK, and one of the very few places in the world, where there has been a systematic approach to mapping shops (by Paul Williams, Kev Swindells, Will Phillips and myself). The tags chosen

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-10-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 October 2014 14:44, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: I am proposing to unify the names of chain shops within the UK. For details, please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names. Thank you for all comments so far. Based

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 Oct 2014 11:53, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Would it be worth adding a fixme tag to the unnamed shops that explains '= betting' is discouraged to add a proprietor's name if known? I noticed that nobody ever looks at fixme tags, I think adding an OSM Note (through the website or

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 Oct 2014 11:48, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: Further to my previous mail. I have added a section about bookmakers on the UK Retail Chain page which I set up recently (at least in part to make it easier to know what the consensus tagging was for various chains). That's a great page, I

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 October 2014 12:19, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: The geojson can be converted into a shp file and read into PL2 or JOSM. Most useful is to use this to generate a task list in JOSM and step through them (I've done this to find postal delivery offices (based on places with lots of

[Talk-GB] UK Retail chains

2014-10-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, I have made a large update to the UK retail chain page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Retail_Chains For all shops with more than 10 occurrences in Great Britain, it now lists the most common way of tagging, as well as alternative tagging options. This list was automatically

[Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-22 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, For all objects tagged with shop=betting and name Betfred, Coral, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power or William Hill, I am planning to change the tag shop=betting into shop=bookmaker. Please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/Betting for more information. Please let

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-09-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Rob, On 31 August 2014 12:51, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: I've see an increased use of block paving as a road surface on new housing developments. In the Netherlands, we have highway=secondary roads with block paving:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] September mapping party

2014-08-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, I will be focussing on retail and pubs/restaurants within the ring road, including the shopping malls See you tomorrow! -- Matthijs On 23 August 2014 11:06, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, If mapping in Coventry city centre can you please use the Warwickshire

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Old Longbridge building outlines

2014-08-21 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 August 2014 20:23, stuart lester stules...@googlemail.com wrote: Also I wondered if anyone had any good sources for mapping underground Birmingham. I am interested in both tunnels, etc. but also underground infrastructure. User bigfatfrog67 has mapped (part of) Anchor ( in a way that

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mapping Wikipedia artciles

2014-08-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 15 August 2014 21:11, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: I would like to propose a project for our group: that we make the West Midlands the first county with all of its geotagged Wikipedia articles, and their equivalent Wikidata entries, added to OSM. I think that's a great

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] September mapping party

2014-08-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, It turns that many of us won't be available on 4 September for the Coventry mapping party. Are there any objections against holding the mapping party one week earlier, that is on 28 August? -- Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Shenstone done

2014-08-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
I fixed one more. -- Matthijs On 12 August 2014 09:17, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers Rob. One fixed, 2 noted for check and one note to data added. Andy From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 August 2014 23:48 To: Andy Robinson Cc: OSM Group

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Shenstone done

2014-08-07 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Great work, thank you! -- Matthijs On 7 August 2014 22:12, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: I wrapped up the remaining main Shenstone area mapping this evening. There is still the little private road in the NE corner which I’ll check out on the bike next time I’m up there. Looks

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 6 August 2014 14:18, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: Paris (France) is Parijs in Dutch Paris (Texas) is Paris (as far as I know) London (UK) is Londres in French, but London (Ontario) is London. Very confusing when booking on Air France's website: if you search for 'London', it tries

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monthly meet up - Thursday 31st July

2014-07-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: On 29 July 2014 09:33, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: I knocked up a bit of a cake: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Next_meeting Mjam! Can I have 1 and 2 (bounded by New Road and Holly Hill Road)? -- Matthijs

Re: [Talk-GB] Recent edits to estate agents / companies adding their own branches to OSM

2014-07-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 31 July 2014 21:59, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I have occasinally seen people do this because they liked the rendering of building=yes more than that of some other building type. Don't know if this is still an issue. No, the stylesheet has been adapted in the meanwhile so

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monthly meet up - Thursday 31st July

2014-07-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 July 2014 09:33, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: I knocked up a bit of a cake: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Next_meeting Mjam! Can I have 1 and 2 (bounded by New Road and Holly Hill Road)? -- Matthijs ___

Re: [Talk-GB] highway=trunk Roads and Cycle Navigation

2014-07-28 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 28 July 2014 14:07, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: I must be missing something in your question, because what's wrong with adding the sub tags bicycle/foot = yes/no? Some users have been adding bicycle=no to UK motorways for this specific reasons. Agree. I think renderers and routers

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monthly meet up - Thursday 31st July

2014-07-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
:13, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I like the idea of small places that you can try to tackle in one evening. Problem is most aren't on a railway line, which is one of our criteria. Fortunately Shenstone is :-) R On 17 July 2014 22:21, Matthijs Melissen i

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thursday this week

2014-06-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Brian On 5 June 2014 11:46, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: My native Dutch doesn't have the town-city distinction, and I guess I will never learn to use it correctly in English... What time do we meet? -- Matthijs On 4 Jun 2014 16:16, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Cross City Line

2014-06-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Thank you! -- Matthijs On 6 June 2014 17:09, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Matthijs, This website has good background and info on the cross city line improvements now underway. http://www.redditch-mrc.com/Redditch%20Railways%20-%20Redditch%20Branch%20Im provements.htm Cheers

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thursday this week

2014-06-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
;-) Cheers, see you tomorrow. *From:* Matthijs Melissen [mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl] *Sent:* 04 June 2014 14:16 *To:* Brian Prangle *Cc:* talk-gb-westmidlands *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thursday this week Fine, then I will do the shops in the city center (including

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Interesting signage

2014-05-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
HI all, I noticed today this interesting road signage in Birmingham: http://goo.gl/maps/7HmDu So apparently, according to the city council it is possible to have one-way dead-end streets... I don't think that would pass the validator :). -- Matthijs

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Summer social programme

2014-04-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Brian, Thanks for creating the planning. Unfortunately, I won't make it to the Stourbridge meeting this month. I hope to see you again in Redditch. -- Matthijs On 23 April 2014 16:35, Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org wrote: Hi everyone Next month, in fact next Thursday May 1st can I

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thursday's meeting

2014-04-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 April 2014 15:29, Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org wrote: This month we need to decide which towns/villages we'll visit for monthly meetings through the summer and also what local celebration we're going to have to mark OSM's 10th birthday on Aug 9th It seems that some areas between

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled out

2014-03-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 12 March 2014 10:52, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: The city council in late 2012 voted almost unanimously in favour of a city-wide 20mph speed limit to improve pedestrian safety, lessen traffic congestion and reduce pollution. The roll out of 20mph speed limits across

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled out

2014-03-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Good to hear! -- Matthijs On 25 March 2014 22:37, Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org wrote: Hi Matthijs Both Amey and BCC have said they want to work with us on this and I'm following up Regards Brian On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] 20mph zones in Birmingham to be rolled out

2014-03-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
The city council in late 2012 voted almost unanimously in favour of a city-wide 20mph speed limit to improve pedestrian safety, lessen traffic congestion and reduce pollution. The roll out of 20mph speed limits across Birmingham will begin in the city centre and inner city wards despite resident

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops: proposal

2014-02-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Brian, Thank you for your feedback. I will address your points one by one. On 3 February 2014 19:55, Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org wrote: I can't see the point of putting Naptan:Street into the name - it will just repeat information that's already there in the street itself. Common

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops: proposal

2014-01-28 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, As I mentioned in my previous thread, I would like to populate the name field of bus stops in the West Midlands. I would like to use the following format: - For stops with blue flags, set name=First_line_on_pole/Second_line_on_pole (this normally corresponds to

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 January 2014 11:00, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: If you read to the end of the OGL, you'll find that it helpfully says: These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution License, both

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] January Meeting Saturday January 11th

2014-01-11 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Do people have mobile internet? I am on the 13.15 train from Moor Street now. I have my bike with me, and as said, I will concentrate on the suburbs North of the canal. I will wave to Ian ;-). -- Matthijs On 11 Jan 2014 10:19, Ian Caldwell ian1caldw...@gmail.com wrote: Embarrassing for a

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