Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Hi Jake, CJ and Silent Spike et al. It's probably a bit early, but could OSM UK consider drinking water to be a Q2 21 project theme ; ie adding more public water fountains and refill cafés to the database? If there is a tentative consensus on this idea over next month or so, I will try to make

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Dear CJ et al., I have added the ability to take pictures directly in the app of drinking water fountains and refill cafés which are already in OSM and showing in the European Water Project Web App. https://europeanwaterproject.org?lang=EN Capturing an image from the webrtc camera and adding

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Dear CJ, I agree with your opinion of how open data Refill really is. The idea of contacting chains in Q3 or Q4 (or early next year depending on how the current crisis unfolds) makes a lot of sense. Best regards, Stuart On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 13:55 Cj Malone wrote: > "You can download our

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

"You can download our proprietary app, that uses our proprietary data, on 2 proprietary app stores, on 2 proprietary platforms. The app is open." Doesn't make much sense to me, but oh well. Seriously though, I added the only local place I know about. But would it be appropriate to contact some

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On 20/03/2020 10:55, European Water Project wrote: Dear All, Just got off a long conversation with Rebecca Burgess, CEO of Refill. Unsurprisingly, Refill has no plans to share any of their proprietary data, but their App is open because anybody can use it  :) For comparison purposes, I

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Dear All, Just got off a long conversation with Rebecca Burgess, CEO of Refill. Unsurprisingly, Refill has no plans to share any of their proprietary data, but their App is open because anybody can use it :) Refill has plans to use more and more OpenStreetMap data to populate their network

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Hi Silent Spike I agree that this project should probably not be prioritized for Q220 given the global coronavirus pandemic. Maybe we can revisit for Q320 or Q420? In the meantime, if people can tag a couple of refill establishments here and there on an adhoc basis, it would be greatly

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

I support and appreciate the initiative and motivation for reducing single use plastic water bottles, but I'm not convinced mapping this data is such a priority for a quarterly project right now. Unsure if it differs across the UK, but I know here in Scotland I could pretty quickly find somewhere

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Hi Phil, 1) I carry a reusable water bottle with me all the time and I do fill up when I am traveling. 2) 1 million water bottles are manufactured every minute in the world and one third of plastic waste on beaches is water bottles . I added subtitles to this French Brut video (with their

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 19:09 +, Mark Goodge wrote: > > People are beginning to get more used to doing that, though. A lot > of > coffee shop chains offer a discount for people bringing a re-usable > cup. > Waitrose gives customers free coffee if they have a re-usable cup. > So > the

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 18:59 +0100, European Water Project wrote: > Hi Phil, > I respect your opinion about the fit for the Quarterly Project. I > don't know enough about the project criteria to have an opinion - > even if I am passionate on the subject. I do understand you passion on the subject,

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Dear Andy, If Refill.org.uk were to "license" their data to OSM, under what terms would that be concretely? I don't want to misspeak (not show my total ignorance on the subject) when I talk to Rebecca Burgess, the Refill CEO on Tuesday. In the unlikely event that Refill's position changes,

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

In response to the question regarding the tagging the network name with the drinking_water:refill:network key, there is value for a network which becomes an open data partner and takes ownership for maintaining the accuracy of "their" network. Extracting via the overpass API all establishments

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

> On 14 Mar 2020, at 21:21, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > > On 14/03/2020 19:36, Jake Edmonds wrote: >>> On 14 Mar 2020, at 20:09, Mark Goodge >> > wrote: > >>> If we do come up with an agreed tagging system, I'd be happy to add tags >>> for all the establishments

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On 14/03/2020 19:36, Jake Edmonds wrote: On 14 Mar 2020, at 20:09, Mark Goodge > wrote: If we do come up with an agreed tagging system, I'd be happy to add tags for all the establishments in my town that I know offer this service. Maybe you have already

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:27, Jake Edmonds via Talk-GB wrote: > > I understand Refill.org.uk are unwilling to license their data. They said this in July 2017: https://twitter.com/Refill/status/31637345234945 I've been pressing them on the point of open licensing, recently:

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On 14/03/2020 17:45, Philip Barnes wrote: They do seem very secretive about the locations of these outlets, there appears to be no indication on their website even beyond there may be one somewhere in this area. They came to the council that I sit on to ask for grant funding to get the

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Hi Phil, I respect your opinion about the fit for the Quarterly Project. I don't know enough about the project criteria to have an opinion - even if I am passionate on the subject. With respect to the locations, there are about 25,000 in the UK and Northern Ireland. The establishments don't

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 12:17 +0100, European Water Project wrote: > Dear Jez, > Gus Hoyt who was responsible at Refill UK (before being made > redundant), for all partnerships was a vocal proponent of > collaboration and open data. > > Unfortunately, the Refill board has consistently voted to

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

k and >>> less single-use plastic ! >>> >> >>> >>> *From:* Gareth L >>> *Date:* 12 March 2020 at 12:36:14 CET >>> *To:* Jake Edmonds >>> *Cc:* "talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" >>> *Subject:* *Re: [Talk-GB] Quar

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

areth L >> *Date:* 12 March 2020 at 12:36:14 CET >> *To:* Jake Edmonds >> *Cc:* "talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" >> *Subject:* *Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - >> drink_water:refill* >> >>  >>  >> Hi Jake, >> >&

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

points would be beneficial > to all - resulting in a larger and better maintained network and less > single-use plastic ! > > > *From:* Gareth L > *Date:* 12 March 2020 at 12:36:14 CET > *To:* Jake Edmonds > *Cc:* "talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" > *Subject:* *Re: [Tal

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

 Hi Jake, Thanks for posting about this. I’m due to post on the Osm-uk loomio asking for suggestions on what the Q2 project should be. Are you aware of any other viable sources of data beyond an in person survey? I wonder why refill wouldn’t want to license their data. Gareth On 12 Mar 2020,

[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

I understand there is an existing suggestion on the UK Quarterly Project talk page about drinking water but I wanted to add my support now that the drinking_water:refill proposal was approved. The tag is used to indicate if the establishment participates in a water refill network. I understand