Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I forgot to mention that linear ways do have an implied width. It can be explicitly declared with the width tag. Although, other than waterways I don't /think/ any renderers take advantage of it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width DaveF On 01/01/2020 00:49, Dave F via Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
1 Jan 2020, 12:58 by mar...@templot.com: > On 01/01/2020 11:00, David Woolley wrote: > >> >> The standard map doesn't claim to be a definitive specification of what is >> allowable. >> > > So where is the definitive specification? The only practical way to discover > if something is valid

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
1 Jan 2020, 15:31 by silentspike...@gmail.com: > Definitely don't rely on the standard map to drive tagging practise, > rendering decisions for the standard map are made based on tag usage. > I would treat Standard Map display as a hint. It is not final authority, but it very give an useful

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
1 Jan 2020, 08:13 by mar...@templot.com: > Thanks, but the problem is that landuse=highway is not a valid tag. > Why? > Voting on it was suspended in 2013 after several votes against, see: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dhighway > It is ok to use tags that

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/01/2020 12:49, Martin Wynne wrote: See also man_made=street_cabinet. The wiki page invites us to add additional usage tags: True, but it's not really a good idea to "expand" the meaning of a key that's already in use too far - it just makes it harder to identify the (in this case)

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Silent Spike
While there is no formally approved proposal for tagging highway areas, I'd direct you towards `area:highway` ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway) Definitely don't rely on the standard map to drive tagging practise, rendering decisions for the standard map are made based on tag

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread David Woolley
On 01/01/2020 11:58, Martin Wynne wrote: So where is the definitive specification? The only practical way to discover if something is valid seems to be to see how the standard map renders it. There are a large number of things that are perfectly valid that are nor rendered by the standard

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Philip Barnes
I had mapped, but forgotten to add the operator to the Inpost locker at Morrisions. The only thing I have ever collected from Inpost are my two interrail passes for SOTM Milan and SOTM Heidelberg. Maybe a Morrions without such lockers mapped is a survey opportunity? Phil (trigpoint) On Wed,

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Gregory Marler
Remember that features in OpenStreetMap are not only useful for finding those features. If you know a region has the pickup lockers all mapped, you could do analysis such as density of their locations (do they favour more expensive neighbourhoods, or how accessible are they by traffic-free cycle

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Wynne
Hi Dan, See also man_made=street_cabinet. The wiki page invites us to add additional usage tags: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet perhaps street_cabinet=pickup_locker cheers, Martin. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Philip Barnes
They are certainly not post boxes, I have used amenity=vending_machine, vending=parcel_pickup which is a combination that probably came from asking on #osm. For example my local one https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5978482863 https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Pna indicates the taging has a fair

[Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Dan Glover
Please forgive me if this is has been debated previously - I'm new here and having trouble finding a searchable archive for this list. A local mapper has added an Amazon "Hub Locker", tagged as amenity=post_box. This causes it to flag as an anomaly when comparing against Royal Mail data. My

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Wynne
On 01/01/2020 11:00, David Woolley wrote: The standard map doesn't claim to be a definitive specification of what is allowable. So where is the definitive specification? The only practical way to discover if something is valid seems to be to see how the standard map renders it. If it

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread David Woolley
On 01/01/2020 07:13, Martin Wynne wrote: However, I have discovered that highway=track, *area=yes* is valid - as evidence of that it is rendered on the standard map as a light brown infill between the fences with the existing highway=track as a routable way superimposed over it, in darker

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Wynne
On 01/01/2020 09:21, Warin wrote: OSM - any tags you like. (that includes landuse=highway, sport=cricket_nets etc) So what is the significance of having proposed changes, voting, etc.? There must be a set of accepted tags somewhere? As opposed to any tags I care to invent as I go along?

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

2020-01-01 Thread Warin
On 01/01/20 18:13, Martin Wynne wrote: On 01/01/2020 05:11, Warin wrote: I would map the area around the road as landuse=highway. I would do the same for the lane/track between farm fields, while it supports the use of the farm it is not a field. Thanks, but the problem is that