Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

On 06/02/2020 16:49, Phillip Barnett wrote: And here is the email from the guy who did the original mapping, the last time this came up, including his reasoning for the amenity Tag rather than building tag https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017457.html Note the time

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

0 om 14:15 schreef Dave F via Talk-GB : Hi There was a discussion 5 years ago. There may have been others. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017455.html Many amenity=university tags were added unnecessarily to building=yes A contributor had converted these to building=

[Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

Hi There was a discussion 5 years ago. There may have been others. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017455.html Many amenity=university tags were added unnecessarily to building=yes A contributor had converted these to building=university, in accordance with the wiki.

Re: [Talk-GB] Cheers Drive, Bristol

On 15/02/2020 12:08, Borbus wrote: I've long suspected that local councils and other government bodies are giving data directly to Google. They're given to everyone. Look at the planning applications. They often have street names in the documents. Many OSMers are sensible enough not to add

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

On 23/12/2019 18:28, David Woolley wrote: On 23/12/2019 18:15, Nick Allen wrote: I may be missing something here, but https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me. The OP was proposing that ,

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

I would add the appropriate surface=* tag to the way. DaveF On 31/12/2019 16:38, Martin Wynne wrote: Here is a track/public bridleway:  http://85a.uk/coffin_way_960x520.jpg which I can easily map as such. But that is just a *centre-line*. If I add the fences, what is the correct landuse

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

/footpaths o the 'standard' rendering. On 31/12/2019 18:45, Martin Wynne wrote: On 31/12/2019 18:10, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I would add the appropriate surface=* tag to the way. Thanks Dave. But a way is a *line*. I want to tag the *area*. I've got 3 ways - 2 fences and a track. Tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

I forgot to mention that linear ways do have an implied width. It can be explicitly declared with the width tag. Although, other than waterways I don't /think/ any renderers take advantage of it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width DaveF On 01/01/2020 00:49, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote

[Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

Hi https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ This OS map render only shows a selection of paths. Does anyone know what criteria OS used to decide which to render? Initially, it appears random. I've a contributor who says it's evidence that some PROWS don't exist any more. They're still shown in

Re: [Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

Hi In your example they're all different companies with different addresses & contact details, FHRS etc Tony's is one company, one address etc, so I think it should be one node, or if mappable, a building part area.. The facilities should be listed in sub tags - bar=yes, restaurant=yes  etc

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

Are you sure it's upto date?: Page last reviewed: 15 December 2016 Next review due: 15 December 2019 The 'GPs' is corrupted with Chines symbols. On 16/04/2020 17:18, Mike Baggaley wrote: The data at https://data.gov.uk/dataset/e373eb6a-fffd-48e5-b306-71eb17f97af2/pharmacies looks like an

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Why country codes? OSM is geospatially aware. On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. Do

[Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

Hi If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if this way is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the Western end exists?  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564 The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway. There's a contributor

Re: [Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

Bedfordshire, and is on the left hand side of the road, orientated for buses heading NW along Station Road as they come off the busway. So yes, it is incorrect in OSM. Regards, Stuart Reynolds for traveline south east and anglia On 22 Mar 2020, at 14:17, Dave F via Talk-GB mailto:talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better vision splays/ stopping room to motorists?

Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

I already answered your last point. Good to see the give way is against the motor vehicles. On 02/09/2020 22:37, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/09/2020 19:00, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has the cycle path been realigned around them

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

I think highway should be reverted to cycleway. There's a misunderstanding that highway=cycleway implies priority to bicycle riders, when it actually relates just to the number of transport modes which can use it. Bridleway equates to three modes: walkers, bikes & horses. DaveF On 03/09/2020

Re: [Talk-GB] New Forest Panorama Mapping Party - September 13th 11.00

If your wishing to socially distance, Sunday lunchtime/afternoon seems a strange time to do it. On 23/08/2020 13:43, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, Some of you are aware of this, but we (David Greenwood of TrekView and myself) are organising a Panorama Mapping Party on September 13th

Re: [Talk-GB] Eat out to help out data

Too transient/inaccurate for me, personally. Even my local LA can't publish an accurate list. Anyway, I'm too busy mapping garden fences in the hope of upsetting sensibilities. DaveF On 19/08/2020 21:10, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, Anyone considered using the Eat out to Help out data

Re: [Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

All The most important thing to do in situations like this is to contact the LA responsible & ask them to clear it. As I said on the preceding discussion of this topic in Talk, many of these descriptions are subjective. What you or I may consider completely impassible, others could be

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 27/09/2020 19:35, Andrew Hain wrote: Keep Right flags web links that have gone offline. Unfortunately it doesn't really do that. After a discussion with the developer I found out it tests whether a server in central Europe has a link to the UK URLs not if the actual link is current. I was

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Rodrigo, On 27.09.20 17:28, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: After some time using OSM as a user, I decided to make my first step as a contributor, hence this email and the proposal inside. If your first idea of "how to contribute to OSM" is "how to

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 10:56, Philip Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2020-09-28 at 10:10 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: On 28/09/2020 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Remember: OSM is not an IT project. Indeed not. But this is also a good example of the truism that OSM is not a map, it's a database. Having the right

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 15:29, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: Thanks all of you for your messages. As a new joiner, I could not ask for more than other members engaging in such a passionate way :) It's fair to say that there is no clear consensus of whether the proposal, in its current form, is

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

Three things to note: SO3166-1=GB is misnomered & includes Northern Ireland. (As I found out, some contributors there get annoyed with UK wide edits). You may want to use area(id:3600058447,3600058437,3600058446); // England Wales Scotland instead. Many pubs are mapped as ways/relations so

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

On 28/09/2020 17:53, Dan S wrote: Hi Rodrigo I think Loomio is designed for the purpose of making good decisions together: Come again? Why do you think "good decisions" can't be made here? What do those who don't wish to join yet another off-shoot do? DaveF

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

About the only change I've made in years of mapping 'non-mini' roundabouts is to split the oneway=yes flare 'V' into two segments. JOSM validation started flagging the junction node of the V as too tight a bend, which I suppose makes sense. This is a good example of how routing is

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

There is a lot of garbage in OSM due to those creating routers being too lazy to write a few lines of code, or even use common sense. However, in this case I believe it's other contributors who think, for reasons that escape me, routers require it. Routing software must be of a poor standard

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

On 21/07/2020 17:30, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import;

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

On 13/08/2020 15:41, Simon Still wrote: So my understanding is that OSM normally only maps what’s actually on the ground rather than what might be shown on a map (and there was some discussion recently about this - https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg19303.html) This

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

What is it? On 12/08/2020 16:54, SK53 wrote: OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn. They may be more useful than either for gathering complex roads which share a name.

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

As the OSM entity has to already contain the FHRS:ID tag it limits the usefulness of this plugin. Won't most have address data added when contributors initially add the FHRS tag? I certainly do. What would be useful is a way to search the LA's database for retailers which don't have a FHRS

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

I'm getting this after selecting the Search Entry option: https://snipboard.io/7J6Eb0.jpg Latest JOSM version Any ideas? On 26/06/2020 10:45, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey Tony, as I'm from the other side of the Channel, I doubt that there's someone from the UK community that knows me well

Re: [Talk-GB] POI files of Pub/Restaurant chain

Hi Did you obtain them from their website? If so, could you post the link? What's the content? Just location co-ordinates? DaveF On 15/07/2020 14:00, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey all, I just accidentally found that the Pub next to "curious 20602512" is operated by a chain with quite a few

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

On 21/07/2020 12:10, Chris Hill wrote: Leccy car drivers need to know if the point is working. Apps from the charge point suppliers and from others such as Zapmap try to keep drivers informed about the availability and condition of the point. OSM doesn't have that info and can't update it in

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

1538 nationwide. Use this to see what other tags contributors are adding. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Wia DaveF On 21/07/2020 11:58, Mark Goodge wrote: Do we map electric vehicle charging points? If not, should we? None of the ones in my town are on OSM, at the moment. I could add them,

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

HI There's a misconception that highway=cycleway implies an automatic authority over other path users. This is untrue It's just a hierarchy of the number of different transport modes permitted to use it. Similarly, highway=residential permits motor vehicles as well as bicycles &

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 09:36, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Hello. I've just added a missing public bridleway ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/882278479) which is detailed on the WIltshire Definitive Map. It runs across a field and doesn't appear to have been in use recently, I couldn't see it on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 12:42, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Ah sorry, I shall remove it then Robert. I have drawn it freehand based on what I'd seen on their site as a right of way. Presumably then, if there's no established path, I can never add it to OSM because the definitive map is my only source for

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 12:08, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 09:39, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Hello. I've just added a missing public bridleway (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/882278479) which is detailed on the Wiltshire Definitive Map. Generally these maps have

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 12:36, nathan case wrote: but instead setting as disused:highway. This is what I tend to do when the PROW route is clearly inaccessible from aerial imagery (e.g. due to new buildings, or rivers). IMO, this is bad mapping. Just because one person concludes it isn't used by

Re: [Talk-GB] electric fences

Some of the properly installed versions I've tagged as gates - The electricity passes through a bungy cable & is connected with a metal hook at one end which is encased in a rubber handle allowing the walker to unhook it & pass through. I usually only map the ones where I know, or it looks

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

I believe you're incorrect. Cycleways can be shared use with pedestrians, & almost always are in the UK. Cycleway/footway/path tags are not based on usage figures. Cycleway allows for two modes of transport, footway allows one.  Likewise 'bridleway' allows for three modes -

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

That's weird. Save for some tactile paving what's the difference between North & South? DaveF On 10/12/2020 14:08, Tony Shield wrote: /Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? / Unfortunately yes - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/827379295 Quite clear

Re: [Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

On 14/11/2020 12:39, Donald Noble wrote: Firstly, I have seen a few buildings that have an AED pictogram sign outside, suggesting that there is a defibrillator inside. Is this considered sufficient 'on the ground' evidence to add to the map. I'd say yes. Add access &/or note tag to clarify

Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps

I wouldn't have mapped that as any kind of road at all. From aerial imagery the west end is blocked by a container & vegetation suggests it's not been used for years. On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different routing apps

Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

yone with valid reasons for not removing these tags? DaveF On 19/11/2020 16:49, Martin Wynne wrote: On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > > Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority > references? Hi Dave, Sorry about poor formatting, cop

Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

On 19/11/2020 20:57, Brian Prangle wrote: Dump for external databases? Surely not! FHRS? Well that's why I've been trying to clean up FHRS tags. The only tag that should really exist is the ID code which refers /back/ to the external database. UPRN? USRN? I'm struggling to see the

[Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

Hi https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10kw Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority references? Appears to be only rivers & woods.These are the only examples in the UK The contributor who added them hasn't responded. DaveF ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

On 21/11/2020 18:35, Edward Bainton wrote: Thanks all for these ideas. The path is marked as shared, but only in the middle of the park

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

On 30/10/2020 15:28, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: Hello, It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967 in NLS is available freely. Link to this on NLS? DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

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