Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

There is also this map render http://gk.historic.place/historische_objekte/l/en/index.html which could be of interest. Gareth On 18 Dec 2020, at 08:41, Edward Bainton wrote:  Morning all My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes', Victorian sewer ventilation shafts

[Talk-GB] Cycle Infrastructure Q3 2020 project outcomes

Hello, The Q3 2020 project was a focus on cycle infrastructure, which is a large subset of data. It was announced on July 10th. As a personal note, I can bemoan about the disjointed nature of cycle infrastructure, particularly in my local area, but what does exist is best mapped on OSM. Unlike

[Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

Hello, The UK quarterly project for Q4 has been selected as Defibrillators. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q4_Project:_Defibrillators A check on taginfo shows there are 4181 nodes and ways with emergency=defibrillator in Great Britain. Reading

Re: [Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

Depends if that condition is seasonal? I’ve prioritised tagging width values on canal towpaths in some locations where, whilst legal, it’s precarious to try and cycle along as they’re practically less than a metre wide. I’ve come across the following proposed feature

Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi Nick, Not in the example I cited. Gareth On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick wrote:  Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version of the RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri? On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote: Morning Mateusz, You’re right, it’s

Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi Paul, I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or overpass-api really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its GitHub repo https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD For others curious, an example is go to https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and right

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

I think the permissive tag is due to it being yet another perceived public space which is actually private, so there’s no public right of way. Would access=permissive or access:bicycle=permissive be sensible? Or is that also mangling tagging conventions. I genuinely don’t know! Gareth > On 3

Re: [Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

I do have to say that surface info is very useful. A lot of cycleways have gravel sections and that can be no fun on, say, a Brompton bike with 16” wheels. Much like pavements, I’d start my focus on the details which are not what you might expect, like where a road doesn’t have a pedestrian

[Talk-GB] Q3 2020 Quarterly project Cycle Infrastructure

Hello, The UK quarterly project for Q3 2020 has been selected as Cycle infrastructure. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q3_Project:_Cycling_Infrastructure Another topical one with cycling having increased take up as people have avoided public transport or took advantage of the (for

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

I’ve noticed patches of vastly improved bing imagery since December, but it is really patchy. Gareth > On 6 Jul 2020, at 23:21, Cj Malone > wrote: > > I was splitting houses in Portsmouth/Southsea this morning. The imagery > is great, I don't know if it was part of this update, or if it's

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus Routes on OSM

Hi Matthew, Bus routes are mapped using relations to associate the stretches of roads that they run along. As others have said, how up to date they are depends on how enthusiastic the (usually) local contributors are on maintaining this kind of data. It’s not automatic. Gareth > On 6 Jul

Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

Probably? I am not familiar with the disputed territories process for Osm. It’s a weird one as only the U.K. has claimed sovereignty. Others don’t accept the claim, but also haven’t made a sovereignty claim themselves. So at the moment, the U.K. is the administrator - and there is an absence of

[Talk-GB] OSMUK calls for directors

Hello! Apologies to those on the osm-uk mailing list who may be seeing this for a second time. The OSM UK (https://osmuk.org/) articles of association stipulate that 2 directors step down each year, and as we need a minimum of 5 directors to operate, we appoint at least 2 directors. Are you

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way mapping - making it easy for newcomers to OSM (perhaps!)

I wonder if it would be possible to use the GPS trace feature on OSM for this? Maybe format the name in a way to make it easier to retrieve? Takes care of the storage of the traces. On 14 May 2020, at 09:22, Tony OSM wrote:  Hi Nick I like the two stage approach - surveying then mapping.

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Can’t the key location be inferred by the fact it is within a country bounds rather than redundantly added? Gareth > On 9 Apr 2020, at 14:46, Tony OSM wrote: > > That makes perfect sense to me. > > Any other views? > > Tony > >> On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: >>>

[Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

Hello, The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP Surgeries and health sites. The wiki page is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites A couple interesting sources of data, the Care Quality Commission appears to provide a data set

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

 Hi Jake, Thanks for posting about this. I’m due to post on the Osm-uk loomio asking for suggestions on what the Q2 project should be. Are you aware of any other viable sources of data beyond an in person survey? I wonder why refill wouldn’t want to license their data. Gareth On 12 Mar 2020,

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

Just to throw in some awkward cases, there are stations which are request stops in one direction only. E.g. Llanwrda is request stop southbound but always stops northbound. Basing use of this tag on service pattern, which changes every 6 months seems not so easy to maintain. Gareth On 1 Feb

Re: [Talk-GB] Firmware update for older Garmin etrex devices

A victim of the gps week roll over in April last year maybe? If so, you should be good until November 2038 (although there’s plenty of other epochs that will break stuff before then I reckon) Gareth On 3 Jan 2020, at 13:38, SK53 wrote:  I was using an older Garmin etrex Legend HC as a backup

Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments

Thank you all for your contributions to this discussion. There does appear to still be a bit of a trick here as the disused tag for areas/buildings is still expected to be used with regards to an amenity tag, and building=apartments is a description of the construction/building but also

Re: [Talk-GB] Laura Ashley - looking for tagging consensus

My local branch is a Laura Ashley Home and branded as such. http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/u08Hvnyzpex1Z6OmilaKjw/photo (On the left) Gareth On 20 Dec 2019, at 09:47, Tom Hughes wrote: I see there's at least one near me that has been named in exactly that way as "Laura Ashley Home":

[Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments prior to demolition

There are some tower blocks near me which have been emptied of residents ahead of eventual demolition of the buildings. They’re not coming back into use due to issues with their construction. http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/lzDlWfY8iYo2cUVmO1FNmQ/photo They’re boarded up to secure them in the

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

I’m all for using a polygon per field, but am unsure what to do at the boundaries. Do I make 2 field polygons meet? Or leave a gap as there’s a track/hedge/fence/small coppice/ ditch/drain ? I’m probably not going to be able to map the boundary particularly accurately in a first pass, so would

Re: [Talk-GB] Elections Online website - candidate for OSM?

Potentially use https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-put-OpenStreetMap-on-my-website Gareth On 3 Dec 2019, at 09:47, Edward Bainton wrote:  Hi all General Elections Online (hosted at

Re: [Talk-GB] Name Suggestion Index

Curious as to what is selected for branches of The Range. That was recently highlighted as being tricky to categorise. Gareth > On 6 Nov 2019, at 07:51, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) > wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 08:24, Jez Nicholson wrote: >> I was wondering how iD (and Vespucci)

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Today's meetup

I’ll still be there doing a foot survey and will do a mapillary survey tomorrow (better weather) if I can note enough progress in construction Gareth > On 26 Oct 2019, at 08:43, Brian Prangle wrote: > >  > Dreadful weather: cancelled > ___ >

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa Mercia October mapping

nly two free dates are 19 and 26 October. Of the two I'd prefer 26 October. So I propose 26 October unless it's inconvenient for anyone else Regards Brian On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 9:51 AM Gareth L mailto:o...@live.co.uk>> wrote: Hello, Has a Saturday to visit Houlton, this October, been deci

Re: [Talk-GB] accurate GPS

Are you including the continental drift? That will make etrs89 gps coords be about 60-70cm off by now On 9 Oct 2019, at 11:06, Simon Ritchie mailto:simonritchie...@gmail.com>> wrote: I've been working with some GPS equipment that claims to be accurate to 2cm. To test it, I've been visiting

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa Mercia October mapping

Hello, Has a Saturday to visit Houlton, this October, been decided upon? The link road (from Clifton-upon-dunsmore/butlers leap) wass due to be opened imminently, although it was scheduled “late september/early october” and now it sounds like December. A lot more construction work is underway,

Re: [Talk-GB] non-squared buildings

Most buildings have square edges*. I know, i know! Some dont, but most do. In many areas, the buildings were built to the same size and shape, so if they’re squared, they’re easily replicated, especially looking how dense new housing estates are. Detached house but so close together you cannot

[Talk-GB] Mapillary users

Hello, Over on the mapillary forum there is a request for user stories from OSM contributors that use mapillary. It’s here https://forum.mapillary.com/t/osmers-how-do-you-use-the-mapillary-web-app/3253 Gareth ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] postcode mapping (was Re: Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only))

I’ve certainly seen full addresses + postcode on the outside of some businesses. Never on a house though. Leeds and London and a few other towns have partial postcodes on street signs. That wiki page could do with an update and links to current acceptable sources. (As it is flagged as out of

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

Hello, Amazon are indeed adding service roads at quite a pace, although with gps from their drivers and aerial imagery to support. As noted here https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2019-July/023252.html they are responding and soliciting to community feedback on their tagging,

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

This was discussed on the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate with the suggestion of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!) https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2010-May/thread.html Tagging things as access=private does impact

Re: [Talk-GB] Trig Point references

Adjacent to this query, there’s a Facebook group where people post photos of postboxes https://m.facebook.com/postboxcollection/ It would be very useful to be able to fill in the blanks, like royal_cypher and potentially collection times. Many postboxes have just the reference number on Osm.

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

Forgive me if this is silly question/statement, but the adj/alt names etc are in the naptan dataset. Wouldn’t it be better to have the link made between the stop in OSM and the record in naptan (using the codes prior mentioned). My thinking is data consumers could link and retrieve values using

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

I’m certain I’ve seen “text this bus stop code to see next departures” use the naptan code. Whether or not that service is still live, I dunno. On 5 Jul 2019, at 10:17, Mateusz Konieczny mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: 5 Jul 2019, 09:04 by

[Talk-GB] Mapillary geoJSON data

Mapillary imagery is readily available in the iD editor and also the traffic sign detections data that they derive from it. Their computer vision efforts also detect a plethora of other items, to varying levels of accuracy on detection and triangulation. They recently wrote a blog post about

Re: [Talk-GB] Adjacent nature reserves

The bounds of an area don’t mean there’s a barrier there. But a nature reserve does render on that map in a similar way to a tree line or hedgerow would be rendered. I’d leave it as it is. The problem is appears to how it renders, rather than how it is mapped. It could be totally fine with a

Re: [Talk-GB] Preston Park, Brighton

Especially as they currently draw the route on google maps! https://www.parkrun.org.uk/prestonpark/course/ From: Gareth L Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 2:04:35 PM To: Jez Nicholson; Philip Barnes Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Preston Park, Brighton I agree

Re: [Talk-GB] Preston Park, Brighton

I agree with Phil. Would love to find parkrun render all their running routes. They already show locations on an OSM sourced map. But as they choose the route, and they’re transient affairs with no indication outside of the event, I’d keep it in their own database. (much like buses) Gareth

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

A surprising number of the new build housing estates around me have few pavements and are not very contiguous. There’s often even a space where they could lay the asphalt, but then it’s left as grass – before then getting sequestered as cars park over it. I’d like to see more affirmative

Re: [Talk-GB] road relations

I was about to say, relations of this manner seem duplicitous of simply having an address. Street objects.. like bins and benches might make a bit of sense. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a street address on a bench node. But I’m fairly sure a query could be crafted to detect the nearest way to

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

Sidewalks (pavements) are difficult in the compressed and crowded layouts of our towns and cities. I would love them to be more uniformly mapped though. As they rarely are mapped, where they are, they stand out and look a bit out of place. What do you think it lacks? Would it be improved with

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

ompare...let me know? Rob On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 23:53, Gareth L mailto:o...@live.co.uk>> wrote: Hello all, Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that are spread out? Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology drive and mill road in

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

Hello all, Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that are spread out? Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology drive and mill road in Rugby. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.38125/-1.24981 It has all the turn restrictions

Re: [Talk-GB] Déjà vu

Ive used http://overpass-api.de/achavi/ for this, if there is no trace of the element. Not so good on mobile. On 23 May 2019, at 12:12, Jez Nicholson mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> wrote: When tracking down some FHRS sites I have distinct feelings of déjà vuI'm sure that I've seen a

Re: [Talk-GB] multiple GB lists

I’m for culling redundant lists, but I’d expect there may be people who are keen to receive the emails as they come in on say, the west-mids group but would only tolerate a weekly digest email on the main talk-gb list (or haven’t subbed for that very reason). So, yeah. Probably worth posting

Re: [Talk-GB] GPS longboat positioning

I’d not discount AIS. It’s deemed mostly for shipping because it’s mandatory if a vessel is over 300 gross tonnage, but it can be applied to canal boats, and even buildings!. An ais transponder is not the cheapest, typically £250-500, and may not compare well with a vessel of that size. People

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

I’d hope these would inherit from whatever the address is enclosed in. On 27 Jan 2019, at 21:22, Colin Smale mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: Assuming the post code is seen in OSM as a way of addressing post (as opposed to a geographic subdivision or an indication of location) then I

Re: [Talk-GB] I have a philosophical question...

It’s easy to forget that OSM is a geographically referenced database of objects. That just happens to be rendered as a map. If you want to know how many post boxes have the George the 5th cypher, you can query the database to find out. If you want to limit that by geographic bounds (say, a

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

I’d maybe see the benefit for this data in more accurate/consistent landuse=residential areas? The whole “do you include the road, or create the area up to the road” decision. Gareth On 10 Jan 2019, at 00:19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Even if it were

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Boundary-Line - Manchester political wards and related boundaries, dealing with inconsistent data

If only it could “snap” to points, but not join, where the way is an administrative boundary. > On 13 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Andy G Wood wrote: > >> On Thursday, 13 December 2018 11:22:58 GMT Mark Goodge wrote: >>> On 12/12/2018 23:11, ael wrote: >>> This is perhaps slightly off topic, but this

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Saturday Mapping

'm now not able to do the 8th Dec so I'll turn out this Sat. There's a new pub there called the Tuning Fork. Anybody else up for this? Regards Brian On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:53 PM Gareth L mailto:o...@live.co.uk>> wrote: I’m rather local to this, but sadly I am away both weekends! It’s wort

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Saturday Mapping

I’m rather local to this, but sadly I am away both weekends! It’s worthwhile doing. Google maps and Apple maps are lagging quite far behind on Rugby’s redevelopments/developments. Surprisingly, an entire retail park is missing from both. Gareth Get Outlook for iOS

[Talk-GB] Network tag on railway stations

When you’re on the tube and it’s stopping at a mainline station, it tends to say “change here for National rail services”. Elsewhere I often hear it referred to as the national rail network and conversely London Underground network for tube lines. Though the overground might complicates things.

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus routes in Rugby

, at 23:38, Rob Nickerson mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote: Which bus company serves Rugby? We could ask our contacts in Warwickshire CC, or the designer of this map on their website: https://apps.warwickshire.gov.uk/api/documents/WCCC-906-239 Rob On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 22:18, Ga

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus routes in Rugby

Hiya, I see there are some bus routes mapped as relations in Rugby. They appear to have been done about 10 years ago and certain services now do not exist, new ones have been introduced and others diverted. What are your suggested options of maintaining and managing this data? I’m hesitant to