Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-07-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:23:00 +0200 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: Not dropping CC-BY-SA would send the signal that ... everything that has been said about CC-BY-SA not sufficiently protecting our data was rubbish, and that we are happy with every user choosing whichever is the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-07-28 Per discussione Mike Dupont
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: all the problems we had with the license change Lets be clear here, I think the problems is not because of the license change, but the contributor terms , ( the click through license and the mass collection of all IP

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Please, consider that more people want to mark even their future ODBl OSM contributions as CC-BY-SA compatible

2012-07-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:44:41 + Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Lets be clear here, I think the problems is not because of the license change, but the contributor terms , ( the click through license and the mass collection of all IP rights by the OSF). There is no

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-28 Per discussione Anders Arnholm
Malcolm Herring skrev 2012-07-25 10:47: So it is nothing to do with 'official' languages. The map needs to correspond with the observed real world. If street signs in Ukraine are in Russian, then the tagged name should be in Russian. When the signs are changed to Ukrainian, then that is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Tools to help find areas corrupted by redaction

2012-07-28 Per discussione colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/07/12 23:14, Toby Murray wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Another thing is that these sawtooth ways tend to cross other ways without intersection, so this is a good indicator, too.

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with redaction layer of osminspector in JOSM

2012-07-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Pavel, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:24:20 +0700 Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com wrote: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/views/bot/wxs?FORMAT=image/... Try redactionbot instead of bot. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with redaction layer of osminspector in JOSM

2012-07-28 Per discussione Pavel Melnikov
Yeah, tried that already. Got no response at all, no tiles, no errors, nothing On Jul 28, 2012 7:42 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Pavel, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:24:20 +0700 Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com wrote: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/views/bot/wxs?FORMAT=image/...

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with redaction layer of osminspector in JOSM

2012-07-28 Per discussione Pavel Melnikov
Ok, it seems that redaction layer does not support projection that josm tries to download (which is specified by SRS=EPSG:4326 parameter) Does anybody know how to contact osmi develoeprs? On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everyone! Today I

[OSM-talk] Lost tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Arun Ganesh
What was the license status of tags added by an odbl-compliant user on geometries created by a user who declined? While its ok for the geometries to be deleted, it does not seem right that the tags are deleted as well. It is after all the work of someone who has agreed to relicense his

Re: [OSM-talk] Lost tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:39:56 +0530 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: It is quite painful to see that countless hours of effort has been deleted for no fault of my own. Is this just the result of the osm data model where tags cannot exist without geometries, or were these tags

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with redaction layer of osminspector in JOSM

2012-07-28 Per discussione Tirkon
Pavel Melnikov positro...@gmail.com wrote: Does anybody know how to contact osmi develoeprs? You already made his acquaintance in this thread. ;-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[talk-au] mapping Sydney, etc with Tasking Server

2012-07-28 Per discussione Richard Weait
The tasking server allows mappers to select an area to map. Others can see which areas have been mapped and which have not. The goal being increased coordination and reduced duplication. There are several mapping tasks currently, including Sydney, kindly hosted by Simon Poole.

Re: [talk-au] mapping Sydney, etc with Tasking Server

2012-07-28 Per discussione Ben Johnson
Now there's 11... I love this. Thank you Simon! This concept removes a lot of indecision. My only question is - when is it safe to click the Done button? Is it just for the definition and connection of the geometry of streets and major features, etc.. ? I just marked an area as Done,

Re: [talk-au] mapping Sydney, etc with Tasking Server

2012-07-28 Per discussione Simon Poole
Well since this is mainly for armchair mappers that don't have an easy way of verifying street names, I would suggest simply tracing as good as possible (no houses for now :-)) so that we get a road network back. Even if we have a majority of roads without names in some places, we can route still

Re: [talk-au] mapping Sydney, etc with Tasking Server

2012-07-28 Per discussione Ben Johnson
Perfect... I'll keep plugging away in the Sydney-Newcastle coastal region. And good work Simon for your edits in the Umina Beach area a couple of hours ago. I live in Gosford (just up the road)... I'll go back over these regions and tidy up the road hierarchy based on my local knowledge. BJ

[talk-au] Introduction

2012-07-28 Per discussione Andrew Allison
Hello: I'm doing some arm chair mapping of Broome and surrounding area from Canada. I'd appreciate a quick review from someone more familiar with the local area. I might be mistaking dirt tracks for dried creek beds. Any mentoring would be appreciated :-) From way up here, looks

Re: [talk-au] Introduction

2012-07-28 Per discussione Ross Scanlon
On 29/07/12 00:58, Andrew Allison wrote: Hello: I'm doing some arm chair mapping of Broome and surrounding area from Canada. I'd appreciate a quick review from someone more familiar with the local area. I might be mistaking dirt tracks for dried creek beds. Any mentoring would

[Talk-is] POI söfnun - reynsla og úrbætur

2012-07-28 Per discussione Svavar Kjarrval
Hæ. Í gær fór ég í POI söfnun í miðbæ Hafnarfjarðar, vopnaður eyðublaðinu. Gangan tók u.þ.b. 2 klst. 45 mín en hins vegar náði ég eingöngu 31 stað. Þetta gerir að meðaltali um 5 mínútur á hvern stað. Þið getið haft þetta í huga ef þið ætlið í POI söfnun með þessum hætti. Reynslan mín var á þá

Re: [Talk-is] POI söfnun - reynsla og úrbætur

2012-07-28 Per discussione Svavar Kjarrval
„Laugaveginn eða Hverfisgötuna“, átti þetta að vera. Heilinn minn hefur hoppað yfir þennan bút þegar ég las póstinn yfir. - Svavar On 28/07/12 15:15, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: Hæ. Í gær fór ég í POI söfnun í miðbæ Hafnarfjarðar, vopnaður eyðublaðinu. Gangan tók u.þ.b. 2 klst. 45 mín en hins

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer OSMI-Layer fuer Lizenzwechsel-Resultate

2012-07-28 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:08:12 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: ich guck mir das mal genauer an. Jetzt wieder ok, oder? Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer OSMI-Layer fuer Lizenzwechsel-Resultate

2012-07-28 Per discussione Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 28.07.2012 14:31, Frederik Ramm wrote: Jetzt wieder ok, oder? ja, sieht gut aus -- hartmut ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Bing Bilder ... aber anders

2012-07-28 Per discussione Tirkon
Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: In der Türkei gibt es schon bessere Bilder z.B. Side stimmt! :-) :-( Das du bei Bing etwas erreichst, unwahrscheinlich. Ich will nichts unversucht lassen. Die Wirtschaft der Türkei ist explodiert und steht heute bombig da - man munkelt, besser

Re: [Talk-de] Nachtrag Bing Luftbildzensur

2012-07-28 Per discussione Tirkon
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Eine Entschuldigung sieht anders aus - fuer mich las sich das damals mehr so wie was wollt ihr denn, wir haben Euch all die tollen Bilder gegeben, jetzt meckert mal nicht rum. Nehmen wir an, die Bing Bilder wurden tatsächlich nur deswegen verpixelt, um

Re: [Talk-de] Nachtrag Bing Luftbildzensur

2012-07-28 Per discussione Tirkon
Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de wrote: Offenbar können einzelne Dienststellen der Bundeswehr eine Schummerung für ihre Dienstgelände beantragen. Könntest Du Deine Quelle fragen, warum die Schummerung nur für Bing, aber nicht für andere Anbieter beantragt wurde?

Re: [Talk-de] Bing Bilder ... aber anders

2012-07-28 Per discussione Manfred A. Reiter
Hi *, Am 29. Juli 2012 00:00 schrieb Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de: Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: In der Türkei gibt es schon bessere Bilder z.B. Side stimmt! :-) :-( Das du bei Bing etwas erreichst, unwahrscheinlich. Ich will nichts unversucht lassen. Die Wirtschaft

Re: [Talk-de] Nachtrag Bing Luftbildzensur

2012-07-28 Per discussione Georg Feddern
Moin, Am 29.07.2012 00:09, schrieb Tirkon: Offenbar können einzelne Dienststellen der Bundeswehr eine Schummerung für ihre Dienstgelände beantragen. Könntest Du Deine Quelle fragen, warum die Schummerung nur für Bing, aber nicht für andere Anbieter beantragt wurde? Warum sollten sie? _Wir_

Re: [Talk-it] Pomezia (RM) quasi scomparsa

2012-07-28 Per discussione Giacomo Boschi
Il 25/07/2012 16:19, stefano ha scritto: E' veramente frustrante... mesi di lavoro in fumo!!! Così si mina alla base il progetto stesso dato che giammai mi rimetterò a mappare da capo l'intera città. Qualcuno mi può aiutare? Scusate, io non voglio fare una polemica fine a sé stessa, ma ancora

Re: [Talk-it] Pomezia (RM) quasi scomparsa

2012-07-28 Per discussione EdoardoT
Quoto pienamente. Probabilmente avvisando gli utenti del cambio licenza per email, qualcuno sarebbe passato dallo status ? a yes, mi riferisco a quelli più vecchi che non entrano più nel portale. Correggetemi se questa email è stata mandata Edoardo Il giorno sabato 28 luglio 2012, Giacomo Boschi

Re: [Talk-it] Pomezia (RM) quasi scomparsa

2012-07-28 Per discussione sabas88
L'ha mandata Martin ai contributori più grossi che non avevano accettato, mi pare una sessantina, facendosi dare le email dalla Foundation. Avevano accettato ancora 5 o 6 persone, gli altri erano irreperibili o non hanno voluto accettare... Ciao, Stefano Il giorno 28 luglio 2012 15:21, EdoardoT

Re: [Talk-it] Pomezia (RM) quasi scomparsa

2012-07-28 Per discussione Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-07-28 at 09:21:26 -0400, EdoardoT wrote: Quoto pienamente. Probabilmente avvisando gli utenti del cambio licenza per email, qualcuno sarebbe passato dallo status ? a yes, mi riferisco a quelli più vecchi che non entrano più nel portale. Correggetemi se questa email è stata mandata

Re: [Talk-it] Pomezia (RM) quasi scomparsa

2012-07-28 Per discussione EdoardoT
Ok, allora bene così. Edoardo Il giorno sabato 28 luglio 2012, Elena ``of Valhalla'' ha scritto: On 2012-07-28 at 09:21:26 -0400, EdoardoT wrote: Quoto pienamente. Probabilmente avvisando gli utenti del cambio licenza per email, qualcuno sarebbe passato dallo status ? a yes, mi riferisco

[Talk-dk] Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt. Gælder kun gennemkørsel

2012-07-28 Per discussione Ivar Madsen
Hej Hvad skal jeg sætte Motor verhicles: til, når der er skiltet Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt, med undertavlen Gælder kun gennemkørsel? -- Med venlig hilsen Ivar Madsen___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-dk] Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt. Gælder kun gennemkørsel

2012-07-28 Per discussione Hjart
Lørdag den 28. juli 2012 11:03:54 Ivar Madsen skrev: Hej Hvad skal jeg sætte Motor verhicles: til, når der er skiltet Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt, med undertavlen Gælder kun gennemkørsel? -- Med venlig hilsen Ivar Madsen Jeg vil foreslå 'destination', som angiver at man kun må bruge

Re: [Talk-dk] Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt. Gælder kun gennemkørsel

2012-07-28 Per discussione Hjart
Jeg har kun i meget begrænset omfang leget med Potlatch (Jeg foretrækker JOSM og bliver frygtelig utålmodig, når jeg forsøger mig med Potlatch). Muligheden er beskrevet på wikien under Key:access og er en standardoption i JOSM. Lørdag den 28. juli 2012 12:52:14 Ivar Madsen skrev: Hej Det er

Re: [Talk-dk] Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt. Gælder kun gennemkørsel

2012-07-28 Per discussione Soren Johannessen
Sorry varmen er steget til hovedet access=destination og er af underlige årsager ikke i Potlatch 2 menuen og skal indsætte manuelt i Advanced menuen Lad os få et skybrud for at blive kølet ned igen /Søren 2012/7/28 Soren Johannessen soren.johannes...@gmail.com: Hej Tror at det er

Re: [Talk-dk] Kørsel i begge retninger forbudt. Gælder kun gennemkørsel

2012-07-28 Per discussione Ivar Madsen
Dvs. at dette er koorekt? http://osm.org/go/0NUvTv1Ar- Lørdag den 28. juli 2012 13:55:26 Soren Johannessen skrev: Sorry varmen er steget til hovedet access=destination og er af underlige årsager ikke i Potlatch 2 menuen og skal indsætte manuelt i Advanced menuen -- Med venlig hilsen

Re: [Talk-se] ref och reg_ref på sekundära länsvägar

2012-07-28 Per discussione Glenn Martin Norbäck
Har du nåt förslag? Häromkring heter vägarna i stil med ref=O510 och det är väl egentligen allt som behövs? Varför blanda in reg_ref när det bara finns en referens Den 27 jul 2012 11:12 skrev Andreas Andersson andreaz.anderz...@bredband.net: Det är hög tid att standardisera nummer märkningen på

[Talk-ca] (re) mapping with the tasking server

2012-07-28 Per discussione Richard Weait
The tasking server allows mappers to select an area to map. Others can see which areas have been mapped and which have not. The goal being increased coordination and reduced duplication. There are several mapping tasks currently, including Sydney, kindly hosted by Simon Poole.

Re: [Talk-ca] Fixme Files

2012-07-28 Per discussione Pierre Béland
To facilitate the visualization of Canvec Fixme files and comparison with OSM data in JOSM, I made a Custom Mappaint stylesheet and added Imagery sources to the JOSM Imagery Sources. The file canvec-fixme.mapcss, enclosed in this message, highlights objects with different colors based on the

Re: [Talk-ca] Fixme Files

2012-07-28 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote: By the way is there a best-practice for roundabout? Circle ways? Or a single runabout node ? I always have been confused with those items... Roundabout a circular way, tagged as junction=roundabout (+

Re: [Talk-cz] import budov

2012-07-28 Per discussione hanoj
Ja bych nadhodil nekolik otazek treba pro adresni body: * Kolik je adresnich bodu? 2.500.000 * Kolik mapperu se bude ucastnit takove prace? Prvni desitky. * Jak dlouho to bude trvat? ... * Jaka cast dat by mela byt mappery pridavana tam kde nikdy nebyla? Vetsina. * Jak budou uzivatele hodnotit

Re: [Talk-cz] import budov

2012-07-28 Per discussione Miroslav Šulc
Dne 28.7.2012 22:35, hanoj napsal(a): Ja bych nadhodil nekolik otazek treba pro adresni body: * Kolik je adresnich bodu? 2.500.000 2915347 (z toho 2709859 má definované souřadnice), když bychom to brali po kú, tak těch je 13026. * Kolik mapperu se bude ucastnit takove prace? Prvni desitky. při

[OSM-talk-fr] Aidez à mettre sur OSM des zones vierges du Tadjikistan

2012-07-28 Per discussione Stéphane Henriod
NB: désolé d'avance si vous pensez que ce message n'a rien à faire sur cette liste, mais je pense que certains mappers pourraient être intéressés à travailler sur des zones encore vierges :-) ** Bonjour à tous, J'utilise ce canal

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] les mosquées de france

2012-07-28 Per discussione Christian Quest
Si le positionnement des mosquées a été fait à l'aide d'un service offert par Google, je crains que l'on ne tombe dans la notion de produits dérivé. On en a parlé plus d'une fois. Voici un extrait des condition d'utilisation actuelles de Google Maps:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Taggage vol libre

2012-07-28 Per discussione Pieren
2012/7/27 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: Voir déjà ici: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:monitoring:weather On peut rajouter le tag operator pour indiquer qui la gère. Je trouve que ce tag manque de maturité et n'a sans doute fait l'objet d'aucune discussion: pourquoi utiliser

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nom des établissements scolaires

2012-07-28 Per discussione Agnès Rambaud
Le 23/07/2012 20:18, Christian Quest a écrit : Eventuellement Osmose ? http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/map/?item=8030level=1,2,3 Justement, tiens, c'est pile chez moi ça. Et je vois qu'en plus, c'est un peu la zone sur le collège en particulier : - y'a le name collège Icare sur une partie

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Nom des établissements scolaires

2012-07-28 Per discussione Vincent de Chateau-Thierry
Bonsoir, Le 28/07/2012 17:09, Agnès Rambaud a écrit : Le 23/07/2012 20:18, Christian Quest a écrit : Eventuellement Osmose ? http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/map/?item=8030level=1,2,3 Justement, tiens, c'est pile chez moi ça. Je suppose par ici :

[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr]Batimen sur un batiment

2012-07-28 Per discussione forum
Le message suivant de : ## Bonjour, Il y a un transformateur électrique dans une rue de ma ville. La mairie a construit un EPAD sur le terrain. Au RDC, l'EPAD contourne le transformateur. Au premier étage, l'EPAD passe au-dessus. Sur OSMOSE, il m'indique donc que deux bâtiments

[OSM-ja] 「OpenStreetMap北陸」開設のお知らせ

2012-07-28 Per discussione 虹プロ
初めまして、福井の宇野(unotecjapan)と申します。 つい先ほど、「OpenStreetMap北陸」というGoogleGroupを開設いたしましたので、 ご報告させていただきます。 http://groups.google.co.jp/group/OSM-Hokuriku 私のOSMでの活動暦ですが・・・ OSMのことを知ったのが一昨日。 昨日OpenStreetMapセミナー 名古屋に初参加。 本日のOpenStreetMapワークショップ IN 名古屋#3でのハンズオンが初マッピングと、これ以上ないくらい新米中の新米です。

Re: [OSM-ja] 7/29(日)ODbL勉強会開催のお知らせ(予告)→正式告知

2012-07-28 Per discussione Shu Higashi
本日のODbL勉強会の資料です。 プレゼン資料 http://www.slideshare.net/higa4/20120729-odbl ライセンス対訳 https://docs.google.com/a/osmf.jp/file/d/0BxvlrTvfS0RAN01oZ1dJa3g0aUU/edit?pli=1 東 2012/07/26 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: いよいよ今度の日曜にODbL勉強会が開催されます。 まだ若干の空きがございますので ライセンスの濃い話にどっぷり使ってみたい方はぜひご参加下さい。

[Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the created_by tag if it exists on any object you change and upload to the API. This tag was deemed unnecessary and counterproductive a long time ago and this is just a way of cleaning it out of the database as people edit. Not

Re: [Talk-us] National Park boundaries

2012-07-28 Per discussione Daniel Sabo
If you're OK with using non-rendering tags you should use the established boundary=protected_area instead of something US specific ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area#Protect_classes_for_various_countries ). If you want it to render the convention I've been using

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Mike N
On 7/28/2012 3:33 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Not really sure about the zip code tags. I find the county and zip code tags to be useful at times to tell me where I'm located when doing Mapdust cleanup. I could probably come up with some other way to find myself if they weren't there, but it's

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Anthony
I'm all for upload_uuid being removed automatically. As for tiger:separated, is it possible to remove the tag only if it's set to no? The 1.4% that are set to something else should probably be reviewed manually. On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Some

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I'm all for upload_uuid being removed automatically. As for tiger:separated, is it possible to remove the tag only if it's set to no? The 1.4% that are set to something else should probably be reviewed manually. Might be

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Per discussione Anthony
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I'm all for upload_uuid being removed automatically. As for tiger:separated, is it possible to remove the tag only if it's set to no? The 1.4% that are set

Re: [Talk-us] railway=abandoned and mapping things that are not there any more?

2012-07-28 Per discussione Russ Nelson
Toby Murray writes: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Peter Dobratz wrote: I'm trying to get a better understanding of the railway=abandoned tag and see what the community thinks about it. FWIW there's been a similar discussion on