[OSM-talk-fr] OSMCHA, les tags sont un peu durs je trouve !

2020-04-03 Per discussione Vincent Bergeot
Bonjour, j'utilise souvent OSMCHA, parfois je commente depuis ce logiciel. Mais j'ai aussi un flux rss pour les nouveaux et donc je tombe sur une nouvelle, qui a été accueilli, qui fait une bourde, il lui est demandé des précisions, c'est super. Mais c'est fait depuis OSMCHA, et cela ajoute

[Talk-ca] Toronto building import

2020-04-03 Per discussione Nate Wessel
Hi all, I've been spending some time today working on restarting the Toronto building import effort which seems to have stalled a while back (I got distracted, sorry!). What I'm proposing to do is essentially just to finish off the building import that was started over a year ago in

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Ewen Hill
The short-wheel-base can do it in a doddle, the big tanker takes a good driver and observer, the pumper, not a chance in hell. Ewen On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 10:46, Ewen Hill wrote: > > Andrew beat me to passing-place! > > you can

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 10:46, Ewen Hill wrote: Andrew beat me to passing-place! you can just get a fire truck to do a 27 point turn - just. > Only 27 points!!! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Ewen Hill
Thanks all - Passing Bay it is. On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:54, Benjamin Ceravolo wrote: > +1 > > On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:54, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> That one looks more like a >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpassing_place to me. >> >> On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:46, Ewen

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Benjamin Ceravolo
+1 On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:54, Andrew Harvey wrote: > That one looks more like a > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpassing_place to me. > > On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:46, Ewen Hill wrote: > >> Hi, >>On narrow bush tracks there are turnout areas to allow vehicles to >>

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Phil Wyatt
Hi Ewen, Would it count as a passing bay? I know lots of fire trails have them designated at set intervals https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpassing_place Cheers - Phil From: Ewen Hill Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:44 AM To: OSM-Au Subject: [talk-au] How do

Re: [talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Andrew Harvey
That one looks more like a https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpassing_place to me. On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:46, Ewen Hill wrote: > Hi, >On narrow bush tracks there are turnout areas to allow vehicles to > pass. It really isn't a traffic circle but you can just get a fire

[talk-au] How do you describe a turnout like this

2020-04-03 Per discussione Ewen Hill
Hi, On narrow bush tracks there are turnout areas to allow vehicles to pass. It really isn't a traffic circle but you can just get a fire truck to do a 27 point turn - just. How would you represent this please? The image shows the bulk of the turnout on the right.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] étiquettes CPAM et mutuelles

2020-04-03 Per discussione Philippe Verdy
Le ven. 3 avr. 2020 à 23:47, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : > Pour les CPAM, j'ai toujours une hésitation entre utiliser > *amenity=social_facility; social_facility=outreach et > *office=government; government=healthcare > > Encore une décision que la communauté française devra prendre pour être > fixée.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] étiquettes CPAM et mutuelles

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> Pour les mutuelles […] office=insurance me parait tout à fait approprié. Il n'existe pas de healthcare=insurance ? Ou de son tag insurance=health ? certains ont tenté : insurance=health https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/SkA healthcare:insurance=* https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Sky health_insurance=*

[OSM-talk-fr] Nouvelle du 1er avril

2020-04-03 Per discussione Donat ROBAUX
Bonjour à tous-tes, La nouvelle est passée un peu à la trappe le 1er avril entre confinement et peur de faire de mauvaises blagues, mais ce jour-là, nous avons été 411 contributeurs. Record battu! La vieille c'était 409, mais ca aurait été moins drôle.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Covid-19 : tag sur centre de consultations

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> Pour les MSP, je taggue pour le moment en: > - healthcare=centre > - amenity=doctors Je vois "souvent" des healthcare=centre ou healthcare=nurse… avec amenity=doctors. > Je sais que c'est pas l'idéal, mais bon. C'est effectivement taguer pour le rendu (et pour que Nominatim trouve l'objet).

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] étiquettes CPAM et mutuelles

2020-04-03 Per discussione Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr
Bonjour, il n'y est pas listé car il est déprécié https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aoffice%3Dadministrative au profit d'un tag plus clair office=government C'est effectivement clairement déprécié :-) Mais le "office=government" semble plutôt réservé à l'administratrion d'état et les

[OSM-talk-fr] [Covid-19] Demande aide install carte OSM

2020-04-03 Per discussione Donat ROBAUX
Bonjour, J'ai reçu aujourd'hui cette demande d'aide de la part d'un ami pour installer un fond de carte OSM. Merci à ceux qui pourront faire quelque chose. Donat > Bonjour à tous > > > https://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid est un projet en cours en GPLv3+, > serveur Web en C++ sous Linux pour

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Donat ROBAUX
Hello, Décidément les discussions sur le tagging des infras de santé interviennent au moment où j'ai le moins de temps Pour les SSIAD, j'approuve la proposition : social_facility=ambulatory_care social_facility:for=senior;disabled type:FR:FINESS=354 Pour les IDEL, un simple healthcare=nurse

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] étiquettes CPAM et mutuelles

2020-04-03 Per discussione Donat ROBAUX
Hello, Pour les CPAM, j'ai toujours une hésitation entre utiliser *amenity=social_facility; social_facility=outreach et *office=government; government=healthcare Encore une décision que la communauté française devra prendre pour être fixée. Pour les mutuelles, je n'en ai jamais taggué, mais

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> il n'y a justement pas de soins dans le bureau d'un service > de soins infirmiers à domicile. Dans les cas que je connais, il y a toujours des soins : c'est la "permanence" pour faire des prélèvements sanguins, refaire des pansements, > c'est le bureau d'une infirmière, l'endroit de son

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Covid-19 : tag sur centre de consultations

2020-04-03 Per discussione Donat ROBAUX
Hello, Pour les MSP, je taggue pour le moment en: - healthcare=centre - amenity=doctors Je sais que c'est pas l'idéal, mais bon. Et avec les tags Finess habituels (ref:FR:FINESS et type:FR:FINESS) quand ils existent. Donat -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/France-f5380434.html

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Marc M.
Le 03.04.20 à 17:32, Yves P. a écrit : >> office=nurse ne te suffit pas ? > Non ;) Il manque l'aspect social/soins il n'y a justement pas de soins dans le bureau d'un service de soins infirmiers à domicile. c'est le bureau d'une infirmière, l'endroit de son activité sans recevoir du public à

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr
Les infirmier(e)s en France sont tenu(e)s, sauf erreur,  d'avoir un local. Ce serait healthcare=nurse, non ? Les SSIAD doivent comprendre un infirmier coordonnateur salarié :

Re: [Talk-at] serice=alley am Lande

2020-04-03 Per discussione Patrick Strasser-Mikhail
Am 02.04.20 um 19:59 schrieb Robert Grübler: Wenn jemand eine Möglichkeit weiß, wie man flächig das Auftreten und Verschwinden von Tags oder Werten analysieren kann wäre ich sehr interessiert. Entschuldige, wenn ich Eulen nach Athen trage - hast du es schon mit Overpass turbo versucht?

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] étiquettes CPAM et mutuelles

2020-04-03 Per discussione Marc M.
Bonjour, Le 31.03.20 à 13:18, Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr a écrit : > Pour une CPAM, l'étiquette office=administrative, ça vous paraît bien ? > Parce que ça n'est pas dans la page > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:office il n'y est pas listé car il est déprécié

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Bonjour Pierre-Léo, Divers éléments de la base OSM représentent bien sûr des avantages pour divers groupes.  Par contre du point de vue de la communauté, comment progresser de façon à assurer une certaine viabilité du projet. Certains ont intérêt à ce que tous les bâtiments soient tracés,

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione john whelan
One of the nice things about the disabled community is we get a fair amount of data either from them or by people supporting them. As Clifford mentioned this sort of thing is useful to them and as I grow older this sort of information is unfortunately getting more useful to myself. Universities

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
I agree with you in principle. And I know for a fact that statistics and studies done in universities are very useful to justify new infrastructures. But concretely I don’t see the parallel. Great things were done for the cycling infrastructure and it came a long way. The OSM map is not a mess

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Nate Wessel
Martin, Why wouldn't you consider university groups a part of the community? I think it's quite valid to worry about the motive and commitment of groups that have a pure profit motive for working on OSM, but I wouldn't think of universities first. There are lots of actual for-profit

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais
Be very careful here, as universities and non-profit organizations did support and encourage better cycling and pedestrian infrastructure. There are a great amount of traffic calming and cycling path construction that were justified by research projects. Without precise data in OpenStreetMap,

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione James
I mapped most the sidewalks in Ottawa with another person and we did it as part of the community, no strings attached. On Fri., Apr. 3, 2020, 4:26 p.m. Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca, < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Nate, when reading this and other comments I try to figure who puts those >

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre Boucher
Martin ⁣Envoyé par BlueMail ​ Le 3 avr. 2020 16:26, à 16:26, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca a écrit: >Nate, when reading this and other comments I try to figure who puts >those sidewalks in and to the benefit of what users. From what I can >see it is being done by university groups essentially,

Re: [Talk-us] Douglas County, Colorado Building Outline Import

2020-04-03 Per discussione Mike Thompson
I think there is already an effort underway to import all of the building outlines from DRCOG (Denver Regional Council of Governments). https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Denver_Planimetrics_Import Mike On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:32 PM Michael Patrick wrote: > > > See >

Re: [Talk-us] Douglas County, Colorado Building Outline Import

2020-04-03 Per discussione Michael Patrick
See https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/8ec5c4567d33436ea78614b150f73c07/info/metadata/metadata.xml?format=default=html Under *Use Constraints:* "This data is licensed by Creative Commons 4.0: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/You are free to:Share — copy and redistribute

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
Nate, when reading this and other comments I try to figure who puts those sidewalks in and to the benefit of what users. From what I can see it is being done by university groups essentially, not the community. The beneficiaries are organizations that funds those groups with strings attached,

[Talk-at] caresteouvert-Karte

2020-04-03 Per discussione snup via Talk-at
Claas, der sich der französischen öffnungszeiten karte für deutschland angenommen hat fragt ob wir in österreich mitmachen wollen. ich hab kaum zeit dafür, falls jemand interesse hat: https://twitter.com/ClaasAug https://github.com/caugner/caresteouvert-de/ lg snupo

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Nate Wessel
I used to be opposed to sidewalk mapping, and I still think it is often done poorly. I've changed my mind in the last year or two though. When I first moved into my current neighborhood and started mapping the area, I hated at all the poorly drawn sidewalks. They weren't well aligned, they

Re: [Talk-it] [www.covid19italia.info] Consegne a domicilio e suosm

2020-04-03 Per discussione Matteo Zaffonato
A quanti non lo conoscessero, segnalo il canale telegram: http://t.me/suosm Ciao Matteo On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 6:03 PM Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > Un sondaggio per capire qual'è la nostra "potenza di fuoco": > https://framadate.org/suosm > > Il giorno ven 3 apr 2020 alle ore 14:44 Cascafico

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
>>> Où uniquement avec bureau (office=nurse) et plaque sans que ça soit un >>> cabinet ? Je découvre… > > Et donc ? C'est encore une autre structure (collective ou unipersonnelle) qui > ne fait que SSIAD ? Pour moi, office=nurse ne correspond à rien :) __

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 4/3/20 19:45, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca wrote: > This morning I checked some large cities namely New-York, Paris, Amsterdam, > London, Berlin. Since OSM is best developed in Europe these capitals make > sense. I just checked Tokyo, Shangai, Seoul, Sydney to sample Asia. None of >

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Niels Elgaard Larsen
Martin Chalifoux: > This morning I checked some large cities namely New-York, Paris, Amsterdam, > London, Berlin. Since OSM is best developed in Europe these capitals make > sense. I just checked Tokyo, Shangai, Seoul, Sydney to sample Asia. None of > them have this sidewalk mapping as separate

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Clifford Snow
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:46 AM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > This morning I checked some large cities namely New-York, Paris, > Amsterdam, London, Berlin. Since OSM is best developed in Europe these > capitals make sense. I just checked Tokyo, Shangai, Seoul,

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais
We could use bicycle=dismount also, which is even better since it allows routing on short segments for access purposes when there is only a footway to a building entrance > On Apr 3, 2020, at 14:09, John Whelan wrote: > > Since it is dependent on municipal bylaws then I think it should be >

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione John Whelan
Since it is dependent on municipal bylaws then I think it should be explicitly tagged. Cheerio John Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais wrote on 2020-04-03 2:05 PM: The reason why we were asked to add them is for pedestrian security assessment and urban planning. When all sidewalks and crossing are

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais
The reason why we were asked to add them is for pedestrian security assessment and urban planning. When all sidewalks and crossing are mapped, we can measure crossing distances and estimate the probability of accidents, which can save lives when the cities add curb extensions (avancées de

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 15:20, nathan case wrote: > The two main components of the green, a wood and a grass area, are separately > mapped as such. > > Where would you add the designation tag? To the boundary or to the two main > landuse components? Or would you create a relation so that the

Re: [Talk-it] Con OSM si misurano i "fatidici" 200m.

2020-04-03 Per discussione Lorenzo Rolla
Anche in Piemonte... doppio ettometro di libertà consentita... https://www.lastampa.it/novara/2020/04/03/news/covid-19-cirio-pronto-a-raddoppiare-le-sanzioni-per-chi-non-rispetta-le-regole-qualcuno-non-si-rende-conto-che-siamo-in-guerra-1.38675158 Vietata ogni attività sportiva all’aria aperta,

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Harald Kliems
On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:17 AM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > What cities allow cycling on sidewalks anyway, seriously ? This sounds so > inadequate. That it is tolerated is one thing, but outright legal or > encouraged ? Makes no sense to me. > In the US

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
This morning I checked some large cities namely New-York, Paris, Amsterdam, London, Berlin. Since OSM is best developed in Europe these capitals make sense. I just checked Tokyo, Shangai, Seoul, Sydney to sample Asia. None of them have this sidewalk mapping as separate ways. I however found a

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione deuzeffe
Le 03/04/2020 à 19:03, Yves P. a écrit : Il y a vraiment des IDE qui *ne font que* du domicile, sans cabinet (healthcare=nurse) avec plaque et tout et tout ? Les IDEL (IDE libérales) ont un cabinet, souvent à plusieurs, qui ne sert que pour des permanences. Le gros de leur activité est en

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Niels Elgaard Larsen
Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca: > It is not hard Justin, just inadequate. The app then tell you “turn right on > path” > rather than “turn right on Main Street”. Close enough. > > I was assuming pedestrians can figure to use a sidewalk without it being > added to a > map, but maybe that’s more

Re: [Talk-it] tag ref guidepost

2020-04-03 Per discussione Ivo Reano
Il ref secondo la pagina wiki è un codice riferito al palo o luogo di posa. Luoghi 2.0 è un software usato dalle sezioni CAI per la preparazione della segnaletica sui sentieri, fornisce un codice univoco per le tabelle da posizionare nei luoghi di posa. In effetti non

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> Il y a vraiment des IDE qui *ne font que* du domicile, sans cabinet > (healthcare=nurse) avec plaque et tout et tout ? Les IDEL (IDE libérales) ont un cabinet, souvent à plusieurs, qui ne sert que pour des permanences. Le gros de leur activité est en déplacement au "domicile" des patients.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CaResteOuvert.fr - livraison

2020-04-03 Per discussione Philippe Verdy
Si au moins ça évite les passage par les grosses centrales d'achat : les agriculteurs devraient pouvoir livrer directement les grandes surfaces avec un prix convenable, convenu localement et directement avec la grande surface. Dans bien des endroits ce sont les seuls lieux de vente ouverts

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione deuzeffe
Le 03/04/2020 à 16:07, Yves P. a écrit : si c'est à domicile, le lieu FINESS est probablement un bureau, Bien vu, c'est bien ça :) Il y a vraiment des IDE qui *ne font que* du domicile, sans cabinet (healthcare=nurse) avec plaque et tout et tout ? Où uniquement avec bureau (office=nurse)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Covid-19 : tag sur centre de consultations

2020-04-03 Per discussione Jacques Lavignotte
Le 03/04/2020 à 18:19, deuzeffe a écrit : Le 03/04/2020 à 14:25, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : C'est quoi ce site !? Tu a regardé qui était l'éditeur ? C'est pas vraiment un machin officiel, vu d'ici. En effet. Mais je connais la MSP et le toubib référent. Bon, d'un autre côté, le site

[OSM-talk-fr] webinaires la data dans les territoires (complet)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Laurence P
Bonjour, cf pour info cette formation (malheureusement complete) sous forme de webinaires "bon usage de la donnée au service des territoires" qui s'adressent aux agents des collectivités : https://www.cerema.fr/fr/actualites/webinaires-data-territoires Cordialement, -- Laurence

Re: [Talk-it] tag ref guidepost

2020-04-03 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni
Ciao Franco, premetto che non ho seguito lo sviluppo dei preset CAI per JOSM. Il ref in generale in OSM è un identificativo univoco, assegnato all'oggetto reale da chi lo ha creato (il Comune per il bidone della spazzatura o il lampione, il CAI per il segnavia appunto). Direi che ref (quando c'è)

Re: [Talk-it] tag ref guidepost

2020-04-03 Per discussione Massimo Taronna
Ciao, da quello che ho capito il ref code è da mettere solo se sul palo c'è un numero progressivo (univoco per ogni punto di posa) posizionato dall'Ente che li ha piazzati. In Piemonte e Valle d'Aosta finora non mi sembra di averlo mai visto. Massimo

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Covid-19 : tag sur centre de consultations

2020-04-03 Per discussione deuzeffe
Le 03/04/2020 à 14:25, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : Je vais peut-être enfoncer des portes ouvertes mais il faudra mettre en garde les taggers sur le fait que la fonction de MSP est bien labellisée par les ARS. Près de chez moi, (1)

[Talk-it] tag ref guidepost

2020-04-03 Per discussione franco marchionni via Talk-it
Buon giorno a tutti. sono un princiante e chiedo gentilmente chiarimenti Nel preset CAI del Guidepost in JOSM è presante il tag name e ref code.Il name mi sembra intuitivo sia il nome località presente nella tabella del Luogo di posa  mentre,  sul ref code non mi è chiaro quale "numero

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CaResteOuvert.fr - livraison

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> les petits producteurs qui livrent directement ? J'ai vu ça au journal télé. ça peut aider à développer les producteurs locaux et à éviter des trajets en camions :) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] [www.covid19italia.info] Consegne a domicilio e suosm

2020-04-03 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni
Un sondaggio per capire qual'è la nostra "potenza di fuoco": https://framadate.org/suosm Il giorno ven 3 apr 2020 alle ore 14:44 Cascafico Giovanni < cascaf...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Dovremmo capire, in caso decolli, in quanti siamo per il lavoro di > trasformare note in tag. Più che scriverlo

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] livraison

2020-04-03 Per discussione Philippe Verdy
Et puis la fermeture des services et assos au public fait qu'il n'y a plus d'accès à Internet pour beaucoup qui n'ont pas d'accès sur mobile ni chez eux: impossible de trouver un ordinateur à disposition. Et je ne vais plus au distributeur bancaire sans une lingette de désinfection avant d'y

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Kevin Farrugia
Correct - it's a municipal bylaw thing. For example, Burlington explicitly allows bikes on sidewalks except downtown, while next door in Oakville riding on sidewalks isn't allowed anywhere. Brampton allows bikes on sidewalks if the wheel size is less than a certain size so that kids can legally

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
Sure. Kids however do not use OSM and maps and routing. So what should OSM do for it’s users ? > On Apr 3, 2020, at 11:43, James wrote: > > For example: Toronto has a bylaw if you are over 14 years old, you are not > allowed to ride bike ever on sidewalk, if you are 14 and under and feel >

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione James
For example: Toronto has a bylaw if you are over 14 years old, you are not allowed to ride bike ever on sidewalk, if you are 14 and under and feel unsafe on road, you are allowed At a certain point you need to use your judgement and know local laws On Fri., Apr. 3, 2020, 11:37 a.m. Justin

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
It is not hard Justin, just inadequate. The app then tell you “turn right on path” rather than “turn right on Main Street”. Close enough. I was assuming pedestrians can figure to use a sidewalk without it being added to a map, but maybe that’s more difficult than I’d assumed. > On Apr 3, 2020,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] livraison

2020-04-03 Per discussione Philippe Verdy
A noter aussi, les contrôles de police pour les dérogations écrites de déplacement ne fonctionnent pas: les agents ne veulent pas toucher les documents sales et lisent de loin. Enfin lundi prochain ils pourront lire des QRcodes (avec une appli officielle pour mobiles) avec un scanner sans toucher

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Justin Tracey
I was assuming cyclists can figure out a turn indication onto a sidewalk should instead be interpreted as onto the adjacent street; maybe that's more difficult than I'd assumed. The Region of Waterloo allows bicycles on sidewalks in some situations, but I believe at least most of the constituent

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] livraison

2020-04-03 Per discussione Philippe Verdy
Le ven. 3 avr. 2020 à 15:59, Marc M. a écrit : > > Le 03.04.20 à 11:40, Magalie Dartus a écrit : > > les petits producteurs qui livrent directement ? > > delivery=yes/no/only pour la situation "normale" > et si on veux innover delivery:covid19=yes/no/only pour > la situation spéciale > > Mais si

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> Sur la page OSM que tu cites : > > Outreach - a non-residential > facility that provides social welfare services such as advocacy, counseling, > job placement, veterans services, housing placement, wellness programs, > leisure activities > ça

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
When you follow a route with a riding app, you get turn prompts that are then incorrect because a sidewalk is selected rather than the street. The route is not just a line on a map, it becomes a set of turn-by-turn directions eventually. What cities allow cycling on sidewalks anyway, seriously

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Justin Tracey
iD leaves all access tags undefined for sidewalks by default, what you're seeing are the *implied* values (specifically, highway=footway implies motor_vehicle=no, but does not make any implication about bicycle=*; scroll down to the raw tags and you'll see both are left undefined). The reason

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
Take ORS as an example in bicycle mode. If you happen to pick any sidewalk when clicking your route points it will route to the sidewalks. Since the sidewalk and street ways are so close this happen all the time unless you totally zoom-in to add any routing point . If the sidewalk had

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione James
I think OSRM for bicycles prefer roads to sidewalks as a base value. And prefer cycleways even more than roads On Fri., Apr. 3, 2020, 11:01 a.m. Nate Wessel, wrote: > I've been using OSRM a lot for bicycle routing in Toronto and haven't seen > many route suggestions that I would consider

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Nate Wessel
I've been using OSRM a lot for bicycle routing in Toronto and haven't seen many route suggestions that I would consider terribly unreasonable. Sidewalks only ever appear at the start/end of a route because they may be slightly closer to the requested destination. Nate Wessel, PhD Planner,

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Einziger potentieller Nachteil eines opening_hours:covid19 Tags ist, dass es nicht unbedingt ersichtlich ist, ob die Öffnungszeiten wegen Corona oder aus anderen Gründen geändert wurden, bzw. ob sie "nach der Krise" wieder zu dem in opening_hours getaggten Wert zurückgehen. Aber zugegeben, das ist

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais
For our researches, we use the OSRM routing engine, in which the default profile for bicycle sets the footway to walking speed (5 km/h) instead of bicycle speed (around 15-20 km/h), which is the same as dismounting for routing purpose. > On Apr 3, 2020, at 10:46, Nate Wessel wrote: > > Which

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca
Maybe the issue is that in ID and I assume that is the Canadian default value, the bicycle access tag is left undefined. Why isn’t that tag defaulted to no as it is for cars ? Then an explicit yes tag can be added only to the odd place where cycling on a sidewalk is allowed. We are talking

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Nate Wessel
Which routing engines are causing problems exactly? Routing a bicycle on a sidewalk may be appropriate/reasonable in some cases and over short distances where one could be instructed to dismount and walk. I'd be interested to see some of the problematic routes that are being suggested to see

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Sören Reinecke via Talk-de
Diese E-Mail wird absichtlich auch an Binary Butterfly GmbH (irgendwas haben die mit zu tun), Lokalwirkt und an den Projektmanager von Babykarte gesendet. > mir gefällt das Projekt gut, auch wenn in der deutschen Community (soweit ich es mitbekommen habe?) noch keine Einigkeit besteht, ob solch

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione John Whelan
I'd recommend bicycle=no and I live in Ottawa.  In Ottawa footpaths that connect in general are bicycle=yes as they come under municipal regulation but a sidewalk on a highway comes under provincial legislation which bans bicycles on sidewalks.  Sparks street is fun I think you are not

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione osm . sanspourriel
Le problème n'est pas le bilinguisme ou alors le bilinguisme anglais britannique/anglais OSM ;-). Sur la page OSM que tu cites : Outreach - a non-residential facility that provides social welfare services such as advocacy, counseling, job placement,

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione James
I don't think it's more tagging for the renderer as much as it's being more specific(more data) to specify a abstract view: without knowledge of Canadian/Provincial/Municipal laws about biking on sidewalks. I think Montreal and Gatineau are more enforced as Ottawa it is illegal to bike on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione nathan case
Thanks both - as it currently stands the whole town green is outlined by "boundary=protected_area & protect_class=21 & protection_title=common" (as town_green wasn’t an option, though, I actually added protection_title2=town_green).

[Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Per discussione Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais via Talk-ca
Hi! I would like to start a discussion on how we should deal with sidewalks tagged separately, like it is is done in downtown Ottawa and like we are starting to do in the Montreal region. The issue is that by default highway=footway with or without footway=sidewalk should have an implicit

[Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Nordpfeil
Das sehe ich genauso. Wenn genug Objekte mit  "opening_hours:covid19"  getaggt sind, werden auch irgendwann die Endnutzer-Anwendungen diese Angaben visualisieren. Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Yves P.
> si c'est à domicile, le lieu FINESS est probablement un bureau, Bien vu, c'est bien ça :) > en tout cas ce n'est pas le lieu oü on peux se rendre pour se faire > soigner par une infirmière (par ex pour ceux qui doivent se faire un > bandage tous les x jours) > j'avais lancé le sujet il y a

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Hier ein Bezug zum Forum, wo die Berücksichtigung von durch die Corona-Krise bedingten, voraussichtlich temporären Veränderungen seit dem 17.3.2020 diskutiert wurde: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=68908 Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] livraison

2020-04-03 Per discussione Marc M.
Le 03.04.20 à 11:40, Magalie Dartus a écrit : > les petits producteurs qui livrent directement ? delivery=yes/no/only pour la situation "normale" et si on veux innover delivery:covid19=yes/no/only pour la situation spéciale Mais si un producteur livre, c'est qu'il vend au sens shop=*, ce serrait

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment taguer les SSIAD (Service de soins infirmiers à domicile)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Marc M.
Le 03.04.20 à 12:03, Yves P. a écrit : > Dans le fichier ouvert FINESS du 4 mars 2020, on en trouve *1970* > (catégorie 354 « Service de Soins Infirmiers A Domicile (S.S.I.A.D) ») si c'est à domicile, le lieu FINESS est probablementg un bureau, en tout cas ce n'est pas le lieu oü on peux se

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione SK53
In the past the term urban commons was widely used in the ecological literature for all sorts of (mainly) grassy spaces in towns. If one wanted a catch-all designation this might be suitable, although I think it would be perhaps better used to replace the usages of landuse=grass & leisure=common

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Christine Karch
Wenn ich das taginfo richtig interpretiere, geht es ja nur darum das zusätzliche Tag "opening_hours:covid19" an die relevanten Objekte zu hängen. Und ihnen den Wert "same" oder "off" zuzuweisen: http://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe/france/keys/opening_hours:covid19#values Das kann man später,

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione Russ Garrett
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > What I would do with these is to separate the legal status from the > physical and usage characteristics. First I would tag the legal > status, using the designation=* tag (which was set up for such > purposes) i.e.

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 11:49, nathan case wrote: > I made a recent edit to a local area that has recently been designated a > “Town Green”. > > Edit: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82973329 What I would do with these is to separate the legal status from the physical and usage

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Holger Bruch wrote: > mir gefällt das Projekt gut, auch wenn in der deutschen Community (soweit > ich es mitbekommen habe?) noch keine Einigkeit besteht, ob solch > ’temporären’ Einschränkungen in OSM abgebildet werden sollten. Angesichts der Tatsache, dass es durchaus üblich ist auch gesperrte

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding missing roads using Facebook detections

2020-04-03 Per discussione Chris Fleming
I've spotted some edits using this, such as: https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=82807938=true After a ropey start, in general I've been quite impressed by Amazon's edits, but this one looks quite ropey, the service road drawn in is very ropey and it looks like you've missed the connection

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione nathan case
> But village greens and public open green spaces are normally managed, or at > least mown, by the local authority. They are not left in a wild or natural > state. Indeed, that’s why this is not a traditional village green - otherwise I would have used that tag ;-). This is an area of mixed

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Holger Bruch
Hallo Claas, mir gefällt das Projekt gut, auch wenn in der deutschen Community (soweit ich es mitbekommen habe?) noch keine Einigkeit besteht, ob solch ’temporären’ Einschränkungen in OSM abgebildet werden sollten. In jedem Fall würde ich Euch gerne mit dem #WirVsVirus-Hackathon-Projekt

Re: [Talk-GB] Town Greens

2020-04-03 Per discussione Martin Wynne
On 03/04/2020 13:40, nathan case wrote: I ruled it out because, from the same wiki: "This tag is intended for (usually urban) parks with managed greenery" and "parks not so designed and manicured, but rather left in a more wild and natural state should not get this tag, instead, use another

Re: [Talk-de] Gesucht: Mitstreiter*innen für COVID19-Öffnungszeiten-Karte (Ça reste ouvert)

2020-04-03 Per discussione Christine Karch
Ich bin da auf jeden Fall dabei! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

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