[OSM-talk] Mapnik coastline updates

2009-09-16 Per discussione Konrad Skeri
When are the coastlines rerendered in Mapnik? I retraced the coastline around Lidköping 10 days ago, and the beach I marked [1] turned up minutes later, but the coastline still looks as before, which I find rather strange. Are costlines/oceans on a separate layer from the other visual stuff on

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Tom Hughes
On 16/09/09 01:54, Peter Körner wrote: You would basically have to do something like: - Find that node version in the nodes table to get the timestamp (or changeset?), right? Yes, to get the timestamp. Actually you probably need to get the next version of the node (if any) as well so you

[OSM-talk] VOTING for general highway-definition

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
The discussion seem to have calmed down, so please vote for highway-definition here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_key_voting_importance I suggest to not delete already given votes as they still represent voter's opinion, even if voting wasn't officially opened. cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik coastline updates

2009-09-16 Per discussione Rob
Konrad Skeri wrote: When are the coastlines rerendered in Mapnik? I retraced the coastline around Lidköping 10 days ago, and the beach I marked [1] turned up minutes later, but the coastline still looks as before, which I find rather strange. Are costlines/oceans on a separate layer from the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ken Guest
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:55 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) btw, there is no mention of shipping charges on

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 16 Sep 2009, at 10:35, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 16 de Septiembre de 2009, Łukasz Jernaś escribió: 2009/9/16 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: With this and the new hi-viz vests, we could re-launch the OSM merchandiseparaphernalia shop. New hi-viz vests? Were and

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Maning wrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? I will check with them and report back. Ken wrote: and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) Like this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-16 Per discussione Lennard
John Smith wrote: While my patch works, I don't know if this is the best solution to the problem or not: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/attachment/ticket/1666/osm.xml-patch I commented on the ticket. -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-16 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/16 Lennard l...@xs4all.nl: I commented on the ticket. This is a better place to discuss this than on a bug tracker: This aussie patch is /an/ approach, but not necessarily the best. It makes relatively expensive calls to postgis to get the Aussie boundary and compare each route to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - last_checked

2009-09-16 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/16 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com: Requesting comments on a last_checked tag for specifying when the information of an object (restaurant, bus route etc.) was last checked to be correct. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/last_checked This came up before and this

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-16 Per discussione Lennard
John Smith wrote: I didn't think it would be the best option, for most of the reasons you point out, however we have to start some where, so I thought I'd get the ball rolling. You're most welcome to do that, as in #osm-nl we have talked about regionalised rendering as well, in the past.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
Okay, so how can we go on now.. I'm not a ruby man and I don't have a possibility to test all this. Atm. my fallback-plan is to wait until the Wikimedia-Guys finished setup of their copy of the osm-db (which will contain the history tables!) so I can fetch my data directly from the db. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Körner wrote: Atm. my fallback-plan is to wait until the Wikimedia-Guys finished setup of their copy of the osm-db (which will contain the history tables!) It might contain the history tables, but it will not contain history data unless they have access to a dump with full history

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.dewrote: Okay, so how can we go on now.. I'm not a ruby man and I don't have a possibility to test all this. Atm. my fallback-plan is to wait until the Wikimedia-Guys finished setup of their copy of the osm-db (which will

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.dewrote: Okay, so how can we go on now.. I'm not a ruby man and I don't have a possibility to test all this. Atm. my fallback-plan is to wait until the

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Hi, My understanding is that rural roads (country lanes as they are called in the UK) should be highway=unclassified. However if there is a small housing estate or residential road in a village, it should be highway=residential. Cue long debate on this ;-) Nick Valent Turkovic

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
Atm. my fallback-plan is to wait until the Wikimedia-Guys finished setup of their copy of the osm-db (which will contain the history tables!) Okay, maybe i was too fast too loud.. It might contain the history tables, but it will not contain history data unless they have access to a dump

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hi, My understanding is that rural roads (country lanes as they are called in the UK) should be highway=unclassified. However if there is a small housing estate or residential road in a village, it should be

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - last_checked

2009-09-16 Per discussione Konrad Skeri
As I wrote in the talk-page: I'm not yet used to the full powers of changesets. Suppose this is stored in the changesets, how do I get all restaurants within a given bbox that has not been checked in the last year? /Konrad 2009/9/16 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/9/16 Konrad Skeri

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Childs
2009/9/16 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Hi, My understanding is that rural roads (country lanes as they are called in the UK) should be highway=unclassified. However if there is a small housing

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ed Loach
If you check: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_samples/out_of_town There is a clear definition on what unclassified is, and that are only really unimportant roads, so to say. That's the second time you've quoted that page. Once mentioning it talks about residential roads, and now

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
Hopefully you don't kill me right off but I re-created this Testcase in the OSM db. I only used a comment tag on each element so they won't get rendered and are identifiable in the history as Testcase later. I also created them near my home where I'm the only active mapper I now of. ==

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - last_checked

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peteris Krisjanis
It could be done in changesets, but it is something that really belongs to tag zone. Cheers, Peter. 2009/9/16 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com: As I wrote in the talk-page: I'm not yet used to the full powers of changesets. Suppose this is stored in the changesets, how do I get all restaurants

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-16 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/16 Lennard l...@xs4all.nl: You're most welcome to do that, as in #osm-nl we have talked about regionalised rendering as well, in the past. I've rolled one small aspect of this out on our walking routes map, which renders different shields for The Netherlands and Belgium. I did copy our

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - last_checked

2009-09-16 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/16 Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com: As I wrote in the talk-page: I'm not yet used to the full powers of changesets. Suppose this is stored in the changesets, how do I get all restaurants within a given bbox that has not been checked in the last year? See the other thread on deep history.

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:06:31 +0100, Ed Loach wrote: Looking at the discussion page for the link you quote though suggests the page was originally an old one, and you'd be better off looking at Map Features. I looked also at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway% 3Dresidential before

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Tom Hughes
On 16/09/09 15:17, Peter Körner wrote: == Decisions == The Choice that is up to be made now is between the following three possibilities a) do not implement these calls b) implement them on demand c) implement them with a new column/index [ snipped ] c) this will cost

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - last_checked

2009-09-16 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/17 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: It could be done in changesets, but it is something that really belongs to tag zone. Why does it? It would reduce a lot of duplication by doing it in change sets etc, it would also make it impossible for people to tamper with it also, however bots

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:21:08 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Told them, and they're at it already. Could we get this image in original vector format? http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/osm-mug-preview.png I would like to make it myself, and skip shipping charges to Croatia, which are probably

[OSM-talk] Linking to the wiki's tag description pages from the website

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I've submitted a patch which would add links from the website to the wiki's tag description pages: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2289 Example here, note the localized links: http://u.nix.is/~avar/6.html RichardF pointed out that the wiki pages were mostly crap. That's true, but

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:14:15 +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: The only thing highway=path says is that wide vehicles like cars can't drive there. How do you differentiate from path and footpath tag? What is the difference between them? Can you show me an example? -- pratite me na twitteru -

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-16 Per discussione Lennard
John Smith wrote: This is already dealt with for coast lines, so it shouldn't be much of a jump to deal with country borders in a similar way. Indeed, but a factor to take into account. Only update your internal version of the boundary when a newer and valid version is in OSM. At present

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:10:48 +0200, Marc Schütz wrote: I would suggest using segregated=yes/no, as described on the bottom of this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated Is this tag in use? I haven't seen it widely used... is there a reason why people don't use it?

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 16 Sep 2009, at 15:42, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:14:15 +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: The only thing highway=path says is that wide vehicles like cars can't drive there. How do you differentiate from path and footpath tag? What is the difference between them? Can you

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: This is NOT true. As I explained yesterday there is a very good reason why we do not store a node revision in current_way_nodes and way_nodes. The problem is that if you do that then every time a node is changed you have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis

2009-09-16 Per discussione John Smith
2009/9/17 Lennard l...@xs4all.nl: If those relations get flattened into a planet_osm_line geometry, you have 2 (or more?) for the same stretch of road. One for the shields, another for the name. Join them up in a query, or split shields and names handling everywhere and take what you need

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a paper globe

2009-09-16 Per discussione Paul Houle
bernhard wrote: Hi all I would like to build an OSM printed paper globe. It should be made out of 2 sheets of A3 paper - A3 (297mm × 420mm) is the maximum size the color printer is able to handle. The globe will be a Dodecahedron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecahedron This

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
To be clear, how would you map this street that goes from Podravlje: http://bit.ly/DesFh That looks like an unclassified to me. These sorts of things are common in the UK: dead-end rural roads which have footpaths or bridleways coming off the end. Nick

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
My understanding was that Unclassified roads went somewhere and did not have a road number but were not up to Tertiary Standard (What ever that means) where as Residential Streets did not go anywhere and only had houses on them. bit like a living_street but where cars have priority really. Peter.

Re: [OSM-talk] Linking to the wiki's tag description pages from the website

2009-09-16 Per discussione Rejo Zenger
++ 16/09/09 14:41 + - Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason: Example here, note the localized links: http://u.nix.is/~avar/6.html RichardF pointed out that the wiki pages were mostly crap. That's true, but perhaps exposing them to regular editors like this will lead to an influx of fixes. So, if you

Re: [OSM-talk] Linking to the wiki's tag description pages from the website

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
So, if you are proposing to link from keys and values in the interface at http://www.openstreetmap.org to their documentation on the wiki, I am in favor of your proposal. Yes, please do it!! Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Mike Harris
Yes, Dorothy, some people DO reside in the country. So I regularly use highway=residential 'out-of-town' where a road is minor, does not go anywhere in particular and has residences (houses) along it at least to some extent (unless it was unsurfaced and so rough as to merit nothing more then

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Mike Harris
+1 (short answer for long debate?) Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: 16 September 2009 14:34 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways? Hi, My understanding is that

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map quarters?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:48:33 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote: You should use the suburb tag -- that's what it means. The text size problem is an issue with that particular render, and you shouldn't tag for the renderer, which using a different tag just to get different text size would be. If

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
c) this will cost disk-space and memory for the index. The CPU time will be consumed only once. This is NOT true. As I explained yesterday there is a very good reason why we do not store a node revision in current_way_nodes and way_nodes. I'm sorry I should have mentioned that all

Re: [OSM-talk] VOTING for general highway-definition

2009-09-16 Per discussione Blaž Lorger
I've noticed that previous votes were changed to simple yes/no text. Should those votes be recast? On Wednesday 16 September 2009 09:46:16 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: The discussion seem to have calmed down, so please vote for highway-definition here:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
Ian Dees schrieb: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu mailto:t...@compton.nu wrote: This is NOT true. As I explained yesterday there is a very good reason why we do not store a node revision in current_way_nodes and way_nodes. The problem is that

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map quarters?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:25:51 +0200, Pieren wrote: No, it's not a renderer problem, it is just different things. I'm not a native english speaker but if I translate suburb and quarters, it is two different things. The first applies to cities (maybe big towns as well), the second is much

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:34:28 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: My understanding is that rural roads (country lanes as they are called in the UK) should be highway=unclassified. However if there is a small housing estate or residential road in a village, it should be highway=residential. How do

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:34:28 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote: My understanding is that rural roads (country lanes as they are called in the UK) should be highway=unclassified. However if there is a small housing estate or residential road in a village, it should be highway=residential. I took a

Re: [OSM-talk] How to map quarters?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:46:53 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: I also would argue that we need place=quarters tag, as there are also places of city that I live on that are administrative separate places within a city, and clearly defined. Nevermind, I found adminitrative layer 10 tag:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Peter Körner
What's the problem with that? If way 10 did not ever use node 50v3, then it should not be included in the give me all ways that use node 50v3 call, right? (semi-ASCII-art ahead, arm your fixed-width photos) Here's way 10v1 (numbers are nodes): 50v151v152v2 ...and a history

[OSM-talk] Garmin Streetpilot 2720

2009-09-16 Per discussione Stuckey
Hello, I have a Garmin Streetpilot 2720 that I'd like to use with OSM. In trying to copy maps onto it I've followed the Wiki but haven't had much luck. I tried sendmap, but it gave me an error about not being able to find the GPS device. Does anyone know how I can import maps onto this

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Abstract on getting historic information about usage of a node

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.dewrote: What's the problem with that? If way 10 did not ever use node 50v3, then it should not be included in the give me all ways that use node 50v3 call, right? (semi-ASCII-art ahead, arm your fixed-width photos) Here's

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a paper globe

2009-09-16 Per discussione bernhard
hi This reminds me of Bucky Fuller's dymaxion map: http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/rbfnotes/maps/graymap1.html My guess is that Fuller's patents on this have long run out. This could be a really fun project. This is also a nice Link:

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Mike Harris
AFAIK there is really nothing smaller than unclassified unless it is (a) residential - i.e. houses along a significant part of it and not really a route to anywhere except those houses or a nearby similar road, or (b) an urban 'living street' with pedestrian priority (can't remember how to tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Street View copyright question

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/9 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: It being out of date, or being geotagged wrongly. if it's outdated: it still might have been your last stay there, so that's no proof at all, geotagged wrongly would just be valid in case you don't know the area. I agree with Stefan deKonink:

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Mike Harris
I did some of that mapping (especially the off-road) and would defend most if not all of the road tagging - there is nothing wrong with 'unclassified' when it goes between villages or between parts of a village and does not have much in the way of continuous housing. Take a look at Google Earth

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 16 de Septiembre de 2009, Mike Harris escribió: AFAIK there is really nothing smaller than unclassified unless it is (a) residential (b) an urban 'living street' (c) a track You forgot service roads. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/16 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: How do you then tag roads that are smaller than unclassified, are narrower or have lesser importance? there is IMHO nothing smaller than unclassified, as long as it is a street. cheers, Martin ___

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/16 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: El Miércoles, 16 de Septiembre de 2009, Mike Harris escribió: AFAIK there is really nothing smaller than unclassified unless it is (a) residential (b) an urban 'living street' (c) a track You forgot service roads. all of them are IMHO

Re: [OSM-talk] VOTING for general highway-definition

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/16 Blaž Lorger blaz.lor...@triera.net: I've noticed that previous votes were changed to simple yes/no text. Should those votes be recast? who changed them? Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Maning wrote: Can we request permission use the design to produce mugs locally? I will check with them and report back. Ken wrote: and to perhaps print out and laminate the design for use as a general OSM cheatsheet? ;-) Like this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Linking to the wiki's tag description pages from the website

2009-09-16 Per discussione Frankie Roberto
yes, excellent idea! I've been trying to improve as many tag and key pages as I can, and these links will help motivate that. Incidentally, there are quite a few improvements that could be done to the browse pages - it'd be great to be able to view a way page, for example, and then browse other

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: How do you differentiate from path and footpath tag? What is the difference between them? Can you show me an example? As the wiki says, briefly: highway=path is a generic path (i.e. any path) highway=footway

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/10 Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com: 2009/9/10 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com Hi, how should I map this - http://www.flickr.com/photos/valent_turkovic/3900795904/ Seeing as it looks like the cycleway and footpath are complete segregated (by a clear gutter, not

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/16 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: Oh please don't reopen the debate about the highway=path tag. Please read the archives, there are some very, very, very long topics on this recently. I missed that as I was in holiday. What did you agree on? cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Additional parking types for amenity=parking

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/14 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/14 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: Or amenity=garages? IMO if it's an amenity, it should be tagged amenity. Have a look at current documented values of landuse=*

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/16 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: Oh please don't reopen the debate about the highway=path tag. Please read the archives, there are some very, very, very long topics on this recently. I

[Talk-it] GMaps e Situazione traffico in tempo reale

2009-09-16 Per discussione Nicola Cadenelli
Sapete che Google Maps permette di verificare la situazione del traffico nelle autostrade dei paesi come U.S.A, Gran Bretagna e Francia? Per vederlo basta mettersi su una delle nazioni anche con zoom un po' alti e cliccare sul tasto traffico presente in alto a destra, se si vede solo un semaforo

Re: [Talk-it] GMaps e Situazione traffico in tempo reale

2009-09-16 Per discussione Alessandro Rubini
Da dove vengono prese le informazioni del traffico? Mi diceva un amico che ci sono dei nuovi servizi per cui il tuo navigatore/telefono ti avverte degli ingorghi, ricevendo notizie tramite gprs o che so io. Basta che chi usufruisce del servizio oltre a ricevere dati ne mandi, e poi da posizione

Re: [Talk-it] Importazioni dati francesi su territorio italiano

2009-09-16 Per discussione Maurizio
Il 16 settembre 2009 00.19, Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it ha scritto: Cosa gli rispondiamo? Beh... siccome OSM è un progetto open, secondo me chiunque dovrebbe essere libero di caricare dei dati dove vuole, purché corretti, anche fuori dalla sua zona di competenza (posto che zona di

Re: [Talk-it] GMaps e Situazione traffico in tempo reale

2009-09-16 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2009/9/16 Alessandro Rubini rubini-l...@gnudd.com: Immagino che google abbia un abbonamento a questi dati da un operatore di telefonia. Penso che il servizio italiano sia questo: http://www.octotelematics.it/octo/new/index_it.htm Ciao ___ Talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Stampare da OSM

2009-09-16 Per discussione Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Alessandro Rubini Sent: lunedì 14 settembre 2009 10.15 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Stampare da OSM Dipende _molto_ dalla latitudine, perche` e` una

Re: [Talk-it] Importazioni dati francesi su territorio italiano

2009-09-16 Per discussione Fabio Locati
+1 che cambia se l'importer è italiano o francese? l'importante è solo la precisione del dato 2009/9/16 Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it: -Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Maurizio Sent: mercoledì 16

Re: [Talk-it] GMaps e Situazione traffico in tempo reale

2009-09-16 Per discussione Giovanni Fasano
Federico Cozzi dixit: 2009/9/16 Alessandro Rubini rubini-l...@gnudd.com: Immagino che google abbia un abbonamento a questi dati da un operatore di telefonia. Penso che il servizio italiano sia questo: http://www.octotelematics.it/octo/new/index_it.htm Proprio aggiornato, sono ancora senza

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Andrea Decorte
2009/9/15 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:10:55 +0200, Andrea Decorte wrote: 2009/9/15 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:27:02 +0200, Federico Cozzi wrote: Probabilmente il numero civico è più comodo da gestire come nodo

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione David Paleino
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:00:41 +0200, Andrea Decorte wrote: Grazie per la risposta, però il mio problema è un pò più specifico. Ti mostro un esempio che spero chiarisca: qui http://osm.org/go/0IOFUw1m2-- se tu noti alla sinistra di Via 24 Maggio c'è un edificio unico, al cui interno c'è roba

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Daniele Forsi
Il 16 settembre 2009 12.08, David Paleinoha scritto: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:00:41 +0200, Andrea Decorte wrote: Grazie per la risposta, però il mio problema è un pò più specifico. Ti mostro un esempio che spero chiarisca: qui http://osm.org/go/0IOFUw1m2--  se tu noti alla sinistra di Via 24

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Stefano Salvador
2) lascio gli edifici così e aggiungo nel punto dove c'è il bar un nodo e taggo quello io farei così, mi sembra la soluzione più semplice e si riesce a gestire anche la situazione in cui un edificio contenga attività diverse sui diversi piani. Ciao, Stefano

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione David Paleino
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:58:16 +0200, Daniele Forsi wrote: Il 16 settembre 2009 12.08, David Paleinoha scritto: On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:00:41 +0200, Andrea Decorte wrote: Grazie per la risposta, però il mio problema è un pò più specifico. Ti mostro un esempio che spero chiarisca: qui

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Stefano Salvador
Ho consigliato la soluzione 1) perché i dati vengono da CTR, e gli edifici dovrebbero essere divisi. questo è vero solo in parte, nella CTR c'è il layer con le divisioni archittettoniche che può essere usato come guida, ma non corrisponde quasi mai alle attività che si trovano all'interno

Re: [Talk-it] Edifici importati da suddividere per inserimento di POI/civici?

2009-09-16 Per discussione David Paleino
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:17:06 +0200, Stefano Salvador wrote: Ho consigliato la soluzione 1) perché i dati vengono da CTR, e gli edifici dovrebbero essere divisi. questo è vero solo in parte, nella CTR c'è il layer con le divisioni archittettoniche che può essere usato come guida, ma non

[Talk-it] Intersezioni cascine e campi

2009-09-16 Per discussione Ruggero
Credo di potermi rispondere da solo, però vorrei conferma. Ultimamente sono state importate le cascine della lombardia taggate come landuse=famyard. Spesso queste aree si intersecano con aree precedenti del tipo landuse=farm. Come gestire queste intersezioni? Credo che la cosa migliore sia con i

Re: [Talk-it] Intersezioni cascine e campi

2009-09-16 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2009/9/16 Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com: Credo che la cosa migliore sia con i multipoligoni: farm diventa l'esterno e famyard l'esterno (come è suggerito dal wiki). Oppure possiamo semplicemente lasciarli sovrapposti e dire al render che farmyard va sopra a farm? Vai col multipolygon, è

[Talk-it] Cos'è questo affare su osmarende r?

2009-09-16 Per discussione giar...@blu.it
Cos'è questo affare su osmarender? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46. 0259342193604layers=0B00FTFlon=11.469898223877zoom=11 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Cos'è questo affare su osmarende r?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi
giar...@blu.it ha scritto: Cos'è questo affare su osmarender? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.0259342193604layers=0B00FTFlon=11.469898223877zoom=11 evidentemente un errore di rendering, non esiste nulla tra i dati che generi quel trapezio. Edoardo

Re: [Talk-it] Cos'è questo affare su osmarende r?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Giuseppe Castagno
giar...@blu.it wrote: Cos'è questo affare su osmarender? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46. 0259342193604layers=0B00FTFlon=11.469898223877zoom=11 scusate se mi intrometto (visto header per caso), ho forzato il re-render dei livelli zoom da 12 a 17, e il problema è sparito. Sui livelli

Re: [Talk-it] Intersezioni cascine e campi

2009-09-16 Per discussione Guido Piazzi
On mer, 2009-09-16 at 16:38 +0200, Federico Cozzi wrote: 2009/9/16 Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com: Credo che la cosa migliore sia con i multipoligoni: farm diventa l'esterno e famyard l'esterno (come è suggerito dal wiki). Oppure possiamo semplicemente lasciarli sovrapposti e dire al render che

Re: [Talk-it] scala sul sito (era: stampare)

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/14 Alessandro Rubini rubini-l...@gnudd.com: Noto ora che la scala indicata sul render di openstreetmap e` statica. Cioe` non cambia se mi sposto in luoghi diversi e riporta sempre la scala equatoriale. maps.goo invece lo cambia correttamente. Quindi le distanze indicate per l'italia

[Talk-it] VOTING definizione HIGHWAY

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
finalmente ;-), se non avete ancora fatto, votate per favore: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_key_voting_importance Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] GMaps e Situazione traffico in tempo reale

2009-09-16 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/16 Nicola Cadenelli nicolacd...@gmail.com: Sapete che Google Maps permette di verificare la situazione del traffico nelle autostrade dei paesi come U.S.A, Gran Bretagna e Francia? Per vederlo basta mettersi su una delle nazioni anche con zoom un po' alti e cliccare sul tasto traffico

Re: [Talk-hr] Prijedlog za razvrstavanje cesta u Hr na OSM-u (preglednije)

2009-09-16 Per discussione Dražen Odobašić
O tome se stalno/već raspravlja...http://groups.google.com/group/openstreetmap-hr/browse_thread/thread/706f6f03c03f0a11/31709ba50914423a#31709ba50914423a ... nije li vrijeme da se konačno nešto i zaključi? Nikada nemojte prilagođavati podatke za 'renderera', time samo kvarite kvalitetu

Re: [Talk-hr] Prijedlog za razvrstavanje cesta u Hr na OSM-u (preglednije)

2009-09-16 Per discussione Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:38:10 +0200, Dražen Odobašić wrote: Nikada nemojte prilagođavati podatke za 'renderera', time samo kvarite kvalitetu podataka. Ako je Ilica županijska cesta onda treba biti i Mislim da brkas prilagodbu za render, ako mapiras cestu kakva je zapravo to nije prilagodba za

Re: [Talk-hr] Prijedlog za razvrstavanje cesta u Hr na OSM-u (preglednije)

2009-09-16 Per discussione Marjan Vrban
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:24:31 +0200, Aleksandar wrote: 2009/9/16 jhabijan jhabi...@gmail.com: hbogner hbog...@... writes: -sve državne ceste highway=primary -županijske ceste highway=secondary -lokalne ceste highway=tertiary Ja se s ovim slažem. Još da netko, doda u wiki i rješena stvar ;)

[Talk-hr] Biciklisticke staze i rute

2009-09-16 Per discussione hbogner
Imam pitanje, kako označiti biciklističke staze??? Po Zagrebu ima raznih tipova označavanja staza, kako ćemo to unificirati. Naravno da ne postoje specifične staze nego se nalaze na pješačkim stazama. Kako to riješiti a da se zna da je i pješačka i biciklistička?

Re: [Talk-hr] Ima li tu koga s geodetskog fakulteta?

2009-09-16 Per discussione hbogner
Valent Turkovic wrote: Ima li tu na grupi koga s geodetskog fakulteta? Ima ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

Re: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners

2009-09-16 Per discussione ian lopez
First, sorry for screwing up some edits that I made over the past month in Pampanga (since I was trying to add the Pan-Philipine Highway relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/115372 ) from the Dolores flyover [which you've mentioned earlier] to the Carredo area in Manila, and

Re: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners

2009-09-16 Per discussione ian lopez
Update: on the Second, you have to use the comments part, it should have been: Second, you have to describe your changes that you've done after closing a changeset. Some users do it, others don't. However, it may be better for you to do it, so that you may not be suspected of vandalisingdata

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-16 Per discussione maning sambale
When we have a date and place, is it OK if I try sending some sponsor request to people? What specific things do we need for the mapping party (food, fuel, venue)? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: so I think it's time we do another one and I

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