Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: +1. While I'd rather see these objects go away altogether, I think a tag of name=Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria Area on a closed way implies that this closed way represents an area called Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria Area. I'm not sure boundary=* is appropriate either, as this is not a political or governmental or pseudo-governmental division, though maybe I'm just not aware of how broadly that tag is used. Cool. Well, since these areas aren't AFAIK used for anything except these kinds of maps: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nearmap , there's no particular need for them to have tags like name=* or boundary=*. I've changed this one. Sounds good. I don't think storing these in OSM, with the non-overlapping tags, is harmful. While I'd love to see them in a separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been implemented. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Using Openstreetmap in books
2011/8/29 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: On 29.08.2011 12:46, Erik Johansson wrote: I wonder if someone has some information material catered for this kind of audience? What about licence issues? According to my understanding, this is/was one of the reasons for the licence change from OSM to OBDL. I don't think current/old license is problem for using OSM maps in books as long as there is copyright notice Lafriks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Slim mode in osm2pgsql and out of memory error
Stephan Knauss osm at stephans-server.de writes: A while ago I did import the planet on my windows machine (i7 920, 12G). I had used -C 3800. So you could give it a bit more ram. I have no exact data, but I think it did run for two or three days. Thank you Stephan! We will give this a try. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags
Anthony wrote: Sounds good. I don't think storing these in OSM, with the non-overlapping tags, is harmful. While I'd love to see them in a separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been implemented. This is the real problem! With more and more historic mapping material coming on line, and what seems like little support for the start_date/end_date tagging of physical objects that we have fairly accurate data on when they did make an appearance or when they were redeveloped, linking to other data sources where this information can be stored would at least allow it's integration? And the creation of 'temporary' layers where material is being worked on but has not yet been fully integrated would also seem to be a way forward even for general mapping? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Anthony wrote: Sounds good. I don't think storing these in OSM, with the non-overlapping tags, is harmful. While I'd love to see them in a separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been implemented. This is the real problem! With more and more historic mapping material coming on line, and what seems like little support for the start_date/end_date tagging of physical objects that we have fairly accurate data on when they did make an appearance or when they were redeveloped, linking to other data sources where this information can be stored would at least allow it's integration? And the creation of 'temporary' layers where material is being worked on but has not yet been fully integrated would also seem to be a way forward even for general mapping? Yeah. I don't think it would be too hard to hack something up that implements the basic API (enough to run JOSM against) and uses SQLite as a backend. This would be runnable by basically anyone, and good enough for small dataset layers like this one. Add in the ability to export to .osm format (very simple) and you could basically run Mapnik against it with no changes, with or without first merging with other datasets and/or OSM proper. But then, while I say it wouldn't be too hard, it would probably take a few weeks of full time coding, which unfortunately is something I don't have for something that isn't going to help me pay the bills. So as much as I hate to see these things in the main db, I'm accepting of it. Hopefully someone else will read this email, understand what I'm talking about, and love the idea, though :). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Google Summer of Code Documentation Sprint
Hi All, Some of you might remember a while back Ian Dees asked for volunteers for a GSoC Documentation Sprint. We applied to the sprint and were accepted! So myself, Ian Dees and Shaun McDonald will be going to Mountain View, California the week of October 21st to work on improving some of the OSM documentation. Below is what our proposal was: A free map of the entire world is a compelling reason to sign-up for OpenStreetMap, but getting started with map editing can be difficult. By having a getting started guide that can easily be translated into many languages we hope to reduce the barrier to entry. Earlier efforts to make a concise, easily accessible document have grown out of date and stale, so we hope to start fresh with a document that can be easily translated, is useful both online and offline, and is easily maintained. It is important to us to end up with a document that can be printed and used in the field, since a majority of our new users contribute to the project while away from the computer. Our team hopes to create documentation that can be used immediately but also improved in the future. This requires the ability to easily get new translators up to speed and store the document in many different formats. By having this in place we can then continue to improve the getting started guide over time and be able to recruit new contributors more easily. Please note this does not mean we are starting over with documentation, though it might read that way. We are more concerned with compiling what is out there, updating it and have it set-up in a way that is easy to translate and print. Thanks! -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.93, now with meta data
Hello everybody, I proudly present the new version 0.6.93 of Overpass API. Overpass API now also provides the OSM meta data (timestamp, version, changeset id, user name, and user id). This allows to use the data directly in e.g. JOSM, including re-upload. It is the most-requested feature at the moment. Other features are a hardening of the software against file errors. The print/ statement now allows an attribute limit to limit the size of the response. And a reworked planet import should now work about faster than before. Read more information on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API For the next version, which should be 0.7, I'll enable bounding boxes also directly for ways and relations. Furthermore, the scripting language will get some clean-up around the query statement and a concise semantic suitable for effective GET requests. I hope, I'll complete that version in September. Some details about the meta data: As expected, this is twice as much more data (65 GB instead of 35 GB) and makes the server an order of magnitude slower. To mitigate the effects on those that don't need meta data, the feature must be explicitly requested. In OSM script, this is done via setting the respective print/ statement to mode=meta. In the XAPI compatibility layer, add the directive [@meta]. The meta data give rise to the following special keys inside the XAPI compatibility layer: [@meta] lets the database include meta data (version, timestamp, changeset id, user name and user id). [@user=Roland Olbricht], [@uid=65282] restricts the data to data last edited by the user. He or she can be identified by name or by user id. [@newer=2011-08-01] restricts the data to only those data last edited after the given date. This is only possible in combination with another conditional. The corresponding tags in the scripting language are: print mode=meta/ instead of print/ for the print statements that shall print meta data. user name=Roland Olbricht/, user uid=65282/ can be used as a standalone statement and as a sub-statement of a query statement. newer than=2011-08-01/ can only be used as sub-statement of a query statement. The [@changeset] special key is not realized. I want to keep up the possibility to restart at any time for a recent Planet.osm, and that Planet.osm won't contain elements that have been deleted meanwhile. Even worse, the same is true for an old version referred in the changeset if the element has been changed since then. A so much crippled response isn't useful any more. These problems do have also an impact on the user and newer queries, but I estimate them to be still useful. Cheers, Roland ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..
I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is flawed. The best result for OSM is going to be obtained if the core data is nearly clean by the day of the relicencing, so that the removal of the remainder has the least possible impact. However, to accomplish that, some incremental deletions or revision hiding could help us get to that point with substantially less effort. The category I think we should address now is where the v1 is created by a person who has agreed to the CT, and subsequent revisions are by a person who has explicitly declined the CT. Specific sub-categories where an automated process could possibly remove or hide non-CT latest revisions are.. 1. Where additional nodes have been added to or removed from a way that are members of only that way and do not extend the way. 2. Where a node has been moved from its previous location by less than, say, 1m. 3. (With more complexity) Where change to a way results in no part of the way moving by more than, say, 1m, and no additional connections have been added. 4. Where tags outside a set of defined core tags have been added or removed. If we don't like the idea of this automated deletion/revision hiding, an alternative (or a complementary strategy) that would make the corresponding manual task easier would be for the API to permit hiding of the last version of a object if it is non-CT compliant. The only way that I can think of to effectively manually deal with this data now is to delete the object, load an earlier version and copy it, and re-upload to the database. The current reversion strategies all keep the non-CT data in the version chain, making it vulnerable. In doing this manual process, valuable CT-compliant history information is lost. In some areas the amount of data where there is a CT-compliant v1 but non-CT-compliant later revision can be over 50% of objects. In my limited experience examining these areas it appears that many of these changes are quite small, often small node movements, or a couple of nodes added to smooth a way, or single tags added to a large number of objects. The manual effort to ascertain what has actually changed is currently large, and risk of wasting the effort of future editors in modifying a non-CT compliant object is real. Ian.___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..
On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote: I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible with the current license, cc-by-sa ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..
John Smith writes: On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote: I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible with the current license, cc-by-sa ? What about the people who didn't agree to the CT, but whose data is in the public domain? -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..
On 31 August 2011 15:43, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: John Smith writes: On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote: I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible with the current license, cc-by-sa ? What about the people who didn't agree to the CT, but whose data is in the public domain? Exactly, accepting or not accepting the CT might be a suitable indicator for the majority of mappers, but it won't tell you if the data is suitable for relicensing, lots of people have been told they can accept the CTs because they allow for accepting the current license. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart
Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ? Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ? Gert Gremmen - Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest) P Before printing, think about the environment. image001.gifimage002.gif___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG (Was: Diverse vragen)
Er zijn twee belangrijke redenen voor de import: 1. internationale applicaties zoals smartphone-navigatie en b.v. onderzoekstoepassingen verwachten adressen en gebouwen in de dataset, niet apart. Niemand gaat speciaal voor Nederland andere code maken. 2. het is nutteloze bezigheidstherapie voor mappers om gebouwen en huisnummers in te tekenen die al lang beschikbaar zijn. Mijn tijd en energie wil ik liever kwijt in bijhouden van nieuwe ontwikkelingen, taggen van gebruik van de gebouwen etc Wat mij betreft graag een werkgroep oprichten die in eerste instantie 2 vragen meekrijgt: - ontwikkel een procedure voor import en up-to-date houden van gebouwen en adressen uit BAG rekening houdend met edits van mappers - ga na welke mogelijkheden de BAG-licentie biedt, hoe we praktisch bij de data komen En dit dan weer hier terugkoppelt alvorens het ook daadwerkelijk te bouwen. Ik wil deel van de werkgroep zijn. Wie meer? Groeten, Dirk Dirk Bussche Senior Adviseur Geografische Toepassingen T +31 (0)570 666 830 ▪ E dbuss...@goudappel.nl (aanwezig op kantoor: maandag, dinsdag en woensdag) Goudappel Coffeng ▪ Snipperlingsdijk 4 ▪ 7417 BJ Deventer ▪ Postbus 161 ▪ 7400 AD Deventer ▪ The Netherlands ▪ www.goudappel.nl Goudappel Coffeng BV is gevestigd in Deventer, Den Haag, Eindhoven, Leeuwarden en Amsterdam __ Disclaimer De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. De afzender sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart
Bedoel je dit? http://www.öpnvkarte.de Werkt ondanks de Duitse domain internationaal. Met vriendelijke groet, Dirk Bussche Senior Adviseur Geografische Toepassingen T +31 (0)570 666 830 ? E dbuss...@goudappel.nl (aanwezig op kantoor: maandag, dinsdag en woensdag) Goudappel Coffeng ? Snipperlingsdijk 4 ? 7417 BJ Deventer ? Postbus 161 ? 7400 AD Deventer ? The Netherlands ? www.goudappel.nl Goudappel Coffeng BV is gevestigd in Deventer, Den Haag, Eindhoven, Leeuwarden en Amsterdam __ From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Date: 30-08-2011 12:16 Subject:[OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ? Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ? Gert Gremmen - Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest) P Before printing, think about the environment. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl Disclaimer De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. De afzender sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart
En deze, een andere vorm van actueel :) http://kubus.mailspool.nl/spoorkaart/ Groet, Floris 2011/8/30 dbuss...@goudappel.nl: Bedoel je dit? http://www.öpnvkarte.de Werkt ondanks de Duitse domain internationaal. Met vriendelijke groet, Dirk Bussche Senior Adviseur Geografische Toepassingen T +31 (0)570 666 830 ? E dbuss...@goudappel.nl (aanwezig op kantoor: maandag, dinsdag en woensdag) Goudappel Coffeng ? Snipperlingsdijk 4 ? 7417 BJ Deventer ? Postbus 161 ? 7400 AD Deventer ? The Netherlands ? www.goudappel.nl Goudappel Coffeng BV is gevestigd in Deventer, Den Haag, Eindhoven, Leeuwarden en Amsterdam __ From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Date: 30-08-2011 12:16 Subject: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ? Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ? Gert Gremmen - Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest) P Before printing, think about the environment. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl Disclaimer De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. De afzender sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG (Was: Diverse vragen)
Dirk, Wat mij betreft graag een werkgroep oprichten die in eerste instantie 2 vragen meekrijgt: - ontwikkel een procedure voor import en up-to-date houden van gebouwen en adressen uit BAG rekening houdend met edits van mappers - ga na welke mogelijkheden de BAG-licentie biedt, hoe we praktisch bij de data komen En dit dan weer hier terugkoppelt alvorens het ook daadwerkelijk te bouwen. Ik wil deel van de werkgroep zijn. Wie meer? Wil ik ook wel. Ik kan nog wel ergens een uurtje per week afsnoepen (of een paar meer). Christ van Willegen ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart
Deze bedoelde ik inderdaad. Een relatie van mij wil iets dergelijks (maar dan anders natuurlijk), en ben op zoek naar iemand die dat kan. Het gaat om real time, en historie, en bij klikken op de trein , een arbitraire dataset displayen. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Floris Looijesteijn [mailto:o...@floris.nu] Verzonden: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:09 PM Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart En deze, een andere vorm van actueel :) http://kubus.mailspool.nl/spoorkaart/ Groet, Floris 2011/8/30 dbuss...@goudappel.nl: Bedoel je dit? http://www.öpnvkarte.de Werkt ondanks de Duitse domain internationaal. Met vriendelijke groet, Dirk Bussche Senior Adviseur Geografische Toepassingen T +31 (0)570 666 830 ? E dbuss...@goudappel.nl (aanwezig op kantoor: maandag, dinsdag en woensdag) Goudappel Coffeng ? Snipperlingsdijk 4 ? 7417 BJ Deventer ? Postbus 161 ? 7400 AD Deventer ? The Netherlands ? www.goudappel.nl Goudappel Coffeng BV is gevestigd in Deventer, Den Haag, Eindhoven, Leeuwarden en Amsterdam __ From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Date: 30-08-2011 12:16 Subject: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ? Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ? Gert Gremmen - Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest) P Before printing, think about the environment. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl Disclaimer De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. De afzender sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending. ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG (Was: Diverse vragen)
Dirk, Goede nieuwe argumenten in de discussie. Je eerste argument is bedacht vanuit een gebruikersstandpunt. Ik vind dat we uit moeten gaan van de eigen kracht; wat definieert ons als OpenStreetMap ten opzichte van andere databoeren. Als we ons gaan laten leiden door een specifieke groep 'afnemers' dan gaat onze uniciteit verloren. Bovendien klopt het niet -- er is geen sprake van enige regionale consistentie van dekking van adressen of zelfs maar adresranges in OSM. Een potentiële gebruiker zal dus hoe dan ook de data-situatie per regio moeten bekijken en hun software en dataverwerking daarop aan moeten passen. Je tweede argument vóór de import is sterk. Wat motiveert mappers om dat soort informatie in te brengen als het gewoon op straat ligt? Niet veel mensen zullen nog huisnummers gaan invoeren.. Daar is geen eer meer aan te behalen. Er komt dan een soort kunstmatige scheiding tussen wat nog interessant is om te mappen en wat niet meer, omdat die data er al is èn er geen toegevoegde waarde is in het 'warm' mappen. Als de ontwikkelingen zo doorgaan ligt straks alle overheidsdata op straat en heeft OSM zichzelf helemaal overbodig gemaakt voor wat betreft de topografie. Dus dan maar opslokken en verbeteren of gebruiken als inspiratie? Ik zie het als een groot dilemma! En daarom goed dat we erover discussiëren. Martijn 2011/8/30 dbuss...@goudappel.nl: - ontwikkel een procedure voor import en up-to-date houden van gebouwen en adressen uit BAG rekening houdend met edits van mappers Je hebt mijn reserveringen gelezen over de (on)mogelijkheden omtrent dit vraagstuk. Ik wil mijn ideeen graag inbrengen als die werkgroep er komt. Let op voor eindeloos polderen: een werkgroep moet een leider, een trekker hebben. Niet alleen maar deelnemers. Ik ben niet meer in de positie om zo'n rol te vervullen, maar misschien kun jij dat dan doen. Veel succces hoe dan ook. -- martijn van exel schaaltreinen.nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[OSM-talk-nl] Merge ways?
Dank voor de reacties op mijn vorige vragen. Ik heb ook wat aangehaald met mijn vraag over de BAG merk ik. Nog eentje dan: Wat is het beleid met betrekking tot merge ways? Soms zijn straten ingetekend als vele losse onderdelen, zodanig dat de straatnaam steeds herhaald wordt, op andere plekken zijn het juist langere straten. Hartelijke groet, Nico Witteman ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Merge ways?
Hoi, Soms heeft dat een goede reden, bijvoorbeeld als slechts een stuk van de weg onderdeel uitmaakt van een relatie, een busroute bijvoorbeeld. Of als tags, zoals snelheid, niet voor de hele weg hetzelfde zijn. Maar voor het grootste deel komt dit omdat de data zo was opgebouwd bij de AND import. Ik voeg ze meestal wel samen (en gooi de ANDid tags weg) maar probeer er ook weer niet een hele lange weg van de maken. Groet, Floris 2011/8/30 Nico Witteman n...@wittyman.nl: Dank voor de reacties op mijn vorige vragen. Ik heb ook wat aangehaald met mijn vraag over de BAG merk ik. Nog eentje dan: Wat is het beleid met betrekking tot “merge ways”? Soms zijn straten ingetekend als vele losse onderdelen, zodanig dat de straatnaam steeds herhaald wordt, op andere plekken zijn het juist langere straten. Hartelijke groet, Nico Witteman ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Merge ways?
Nico, Ik voeg geregeld wegen samen. Maar let op als de diverse delen van de straat/weg/laan/etc onderdeel van een relatie zijn (bijvoorbeeld OV of fietsroute). Gegroet, Frank Op 30 augustus 2011 21:47 heeft Nico Witteman n...@wittyman.nl het volgende geschreven: Dank voor de reacties op mijn vorige vragen. Ik heb ook wat aangehaald met mijn vraag over de BAG merk ik. Nog eentje dan: Wat is het beleid met betrekking tot “merge ways”? Soms zijn straten ingetekend als vele losse onderdelen, zodanig dat de straatnaam steeds herhaald wordt, op andere plekken zijn het juist langere straten. Hartelijke groet, Nico Witteman ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: this is the downside to tracing. Once an area looks well mapped, there is little incentive for anyone to go there to map it properly. I'd really like it if all roads that don't have names yet (in OSM) were just deleted. Then II'd be much more inclined to drive there and collect all the infomation. Strong disagreement here. A few reasons: 1) Roads without names are almost as valuable as roads with names for certain uses. (Eg, choosing a route to save to a GPS works just as well without names) 2) There are strong arguments that there is no copyright in street names. If that argument is ever developed, we could easily fill in all the street names from other sources without doing the ground surveying. 3) there is little incentive for anyone to go there - perhaps subjective, but I'm much more motivated to go to a well-mapped area to check on specific details than to go to an empty area where no one has even done the low-hanging fruit (ie, traced the streets). Surveying suburban streets by GPS these days makes about as much sense as using a horse and cart on a freeway... Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Undreadful Imports
Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very good data that could be imported. Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the minds of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence whatsoever would almost certainly be successful. There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date, extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling. Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be 1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult apparently). 2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries. Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data??? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. Thanks, Pete *(Reposted after signing up as a member)* ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. Thanks, Pete ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote: Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. I can just see the one changeset for 99scilla111 - 8994191. Looking at the area in ITO's OSM mapper, there's only one more recent changeset in that area and it doesn't seem to overlap it, so a clean revert should be possible. If you ask on the #OSM IRC channel you might get an instantaneous response; if not I might be able to have a go in an hour or so. Cheers, Andy PS - and in case anyone is wondering whether this really is vandalism it certainly looks like it - changing Old Northern Road to Young Southern Road, and a landuse = retail with a Coles in it to tourism = theme_park. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Undreadful Imports
Hi. AFAIK there is no PD source of postcode data. Merging an import of postcode and/or admin boundaries with existing data might be quite a time consuming job. Even if you assume that all the current rev 1 admin/postcode boundaries get removed at some point (because the ABS does not agree to the new license) that still leaves a problem for any boundaries that have been edited. - Ben Kelley. On Aug 31, 2011 9:53 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very good data that could be imported. Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the minds of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence whatsoever would almost certainly be successful. There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date, extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling. Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be 1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult apparently). 2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries. Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data??? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
Hi Pete, Unfortunately because you have modified some of these it's not possible to revert the changesets. Have a look here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism so the next step is to report it to the data working group to have a block placed on this user. Explain that you have already fixed the vandalism and attempted to contact them. Cheers Ross On 31/08/11 08:08, Pete Ramjet wrote: Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. Thanks, Pete /(Reposted after signing up as a member)/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [Talk-de] Wohngebiete landuse=residential und ihr Bezug zu Straßen, einheitliche Erfassung (war Re: wieder mal - Flächen und Wege)
Am 30. August 2011 04:58 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Was spricht dagegen Strassenflächen und Grundstücksflächen über einen Zugehörigkeitstag zusammenzufassen (z.B. landuse_name=Südhangsiedlung), dann spielt es keine Rolle wo und wie die landuse-Flächen aufgeteilt sind. M.E. ist landuse_name seltsam. Wieso nicht place=untergebiet, name=Südhangsiedlung? Allein schon -siedlung deutet stark Richtung place. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OSMF Board - ich bin Kandidat
Hallo zusammen, ich wollte euch (sehr) kurz mitteilen, dass ich für die kommende OSMF Wahl Kandidat bin. Alles Infos, auch zu den Anderen würdigen Kandidaten, hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM11/Election_to_Board#Nominations Dermot -- -- Igaühel on siin oma laul ja ma oma ei leiagi üles ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Relation Analyzer noch state of the art?
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:46:24AM +0200, Adrian Stabiszewski wrote: Der Export von GPX und KML Dateien ist nicht Implementiert. Es gibt jedoch eine Implementierung des Dijsktra Algorithmus, der den Graphen von einem Start-Knoten zu einem End-Knoten durchwandert und eine Liste von Knoten zurückliefert. Für diese Liste gibt es auch eine Export-Klasse, die GPX Dateien erzeugt. Das einzige Problem ist nur noch herauszufinden, wo die Relation anfängt und wo sie endet ;) Hat jemand Ideen? Der Hinweis zu rel2gpx[1] kam ja schon mal in diesem Thread. Dort sollte das Problem ja schon mal gelöst worden sein ... (rel2gpx hat bei mir immer functioniert, falls RA mal versagt hatte). Viele Grüße und schönen Dank für die Pflege von RA Andreas. [1] http://mr-unseld.de/?q=de/node/170 -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wohngebiete als Siedlungsteile (place) (war Re: Wohngebiete landuse=residential und ihr Bezug zu =?iso-8859-1?q?Stra=DFen?=, einheitliche Erfassung (war Re: wieder mal - Flächen und Wege
Proposal ist hier, Kommentare sind erwünscht: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wohngebiete als Siedlungsteile (place) (war Re: Wohngebiete landuse=residential und ihr Bezug zu =?iso-8859-1?q?Stra=DFen?=, einheitliche Erfassung (war Re: wieder mal - Flächen und Wege
Am 29. August 2011 01:49 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: On 08/29/2011 01:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: So könnte man bei Bedarf und Lust die Nutzung auch von einzelnen Grundstücken angeben (was m.E. der Sinn von landuse ist) Meines Erachtens ist landuse fuer relativ grossflaechige Flaechennutzungstypen. Vielleicht im Sinne eines Flaechennutzungsplans (engl. land-use plan ist etwa das gleiche, wobei ich das ungern sklavisch daran koppeln wuerde). Ich habe mir spasseshalber mal ein paar englische/amerikanische Landuse plans angesehen und festgestellt, dass das in der Tat ähnlich ist: da werden die Straßen ausgenommen, und natürlich sind einzelne in der Nutzung abweichende Grundstücke in den Planungen auch so gekennzeichnet (obwohl das Planungen sind, d.h. die idealisieren im Vergleich zur Realität naturgemäß): http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/cwp/glossary/images/land_usePlan.jpg http://www.franklincountyohio.gov/commissioners/edp/planning/southwest/moredocs/LandUsePlan_11x17(10.08).jpg http://www.countyofsb.org/ceo/RDA/images/Proposed_LU_ranges_July%207%202007.jpg http://cityofypsilanti.com/maps/images/mastermap2006www.jpg http://lrdp.ucmerced.edu/images/05-08-08%20eir%20framework/LandUse.jpg http://www.dublin.oh.us/planning/community/images/OfficialFutureLandUseMap.jpg darüberhinaus gibt es natürlich auch Beispiele aus der Raumplanung (general land use plan), das macht man AFAIK in Deutschland in Maßstäben um die 100.000 und die sind dementsprechend gröber. Oder Vorpläne im Entwurfsstadium (draft/preliminary) und Studien. Da ist dann aber auch nicht jedes Haus und jede Straße drin: http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/depart/cd/current/advance/GeneralPlan/image/GP-LandUseMap.gif http://www.co.cumberland.nc.us/planning/images/WadeRecomLUPMap.jpg http://www.scarborough.me.us/planning/documents/planrpt/rp05051z.jpg http://www.lafayettesquareareacoalition.org/link_25_2682392902.jpg Wobei m.E. auffallend ist, dass die Pläne alle eine gewisse Fragmentierung aufweisen. Die Welt ist nunmal vielfältig. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Kachelnummer
Hallo! Funktioniert bestimmt ganz einfach, nur ich finde es nicht: Wie/ Wo bekomme ich zu einen bestimmten GPS-Position/ einem bestimmten Ort die Nummer der zugehörigen Kachel der Karte? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Wolfgang Wienke ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Kachelnummer
On Dienstag, 30. August 2011, Wolfgang Wienke wrote: Funktioniert bestimmt ganz einfach, nur ich finde es nicht: Wie/ Wo bekomme ich zu einen bestimmten GPS-Position/ einem bestimmten Ort die Nummer der zugehörigen Kachel der Karte? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_map_tilenames Grüße Werner ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Ortwebseite mit OSM gesucht
hi ! eine zeitlang wurde an einem Baukasten für Webseiten gebastelt und dann wurde es ruhiger. Gibt es vielleicht zwischenzeitlich so eine richtig g...le Webseite einer Gemeinde die auf Basis von OSM und OpenLayers sich präsentiert. Ich meine so mit Shops finden, Straßen suche . Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-it] Pannelli Solari
Ciao a tutti, come si possono mappare le aree agricole/montane convertite al fotovoltaico ? Di solito si compongono di : Recinzione per delimitare l'area Barrier=Fence Fence_Type=Chain Edificio in Cemento per contenere l'impianto. Building=yes Pannelli Solari Landuse=??? Idee ? -- Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Pannelli Solari
power=generator generator:method=photovoltaic http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dgenerator ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Pannelli Solari
Oltre alle indicazioni di Martin, mi permetto di suggerire: - Edificio per impianto: power=sub-station Ciao /niubii/ Il 30 agosto 2011 09:37, Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, come si possono mappare le aree agricole/montane convertite al fotovoltaico ? Di solito si compongono di : Recinzione per delimitare l'area Barrier=Fence Fence_Type=Chain Edificio in Cemento per contenere l'impianto. Building=yes Pannelli Solari Landuse=??? Idee ? -- Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti
Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina qui uso le pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) che in questa zona hanno una risoluzione maggiore rispetto alle foto aeree di bing in oltre le foto aeree di bing sono traslate rispetto alle pcn ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona? in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel Milano Marittima 4 stelle, direttamente sul mare con accesso diretto alla spiaggia, offre ai propri clienti cortesia, servizio, comfort e professionalita'. Tutti gli ambienti sono climatizzati. Gratis III e IV letto per tutta l'estate Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11768d=30-8 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti
ti consiglio di utilizzare owl_viewer http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/ Ti selezioni un area da monitorare, e questo ti genera poi un rss che terrai sempre sotto i lnaso per vedere cosa succede. 2011/8/30 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it: Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina qui uso le pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) che in questa zona hanno una risoluzione maggiore rispetto alle foto aeree di bing in oltre le foto aeree di bing sono traslate rispetto alle pcn ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona? in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel Milano Marittima 4 stelle, direttamente sul mare con accesso diretto alla spiaggia, offre ai propri clienti cortesia, servizio, comfort e professionalita'. Tutti gli ambienti sono climatizzati. Gratis III e IV letto per tutta l'estate Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11768d=30-8 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti
2011/8/30 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it: Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina Salve e benvenuto. Se vuoi insciriviti pure alla mailinglist del Lazio (non c'è tanto traffico): http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing Accidenti. L'hai scritto? Io proverei di scriverlo spiegando la cosa (con un link al PCN) e sperando che lo rimette a posto lui. ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona? OWL come proposto da Napo. Anche ITO-World potrebbe essere interessante (puoi definire una zona e per esempio farti vedere tutto ciò che ha toccato lui). Richiede la registrazione ma è gratuito. in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing Come osservato da te le foto di Bing hanno un offset rispetto al PCN e secondome la posizione del PCN è più preciso. Inoltre le foto del 2008 sono molto più attuali di quelle di Bing. Comunque in certe zone (Roma) la risoluzione di Bing è maggiore (fino a zoom 21). Forse dovresti settare questi 21 nelle preimpostazioni di JOSM per usufruirne. Per questo alle volte ha senso vedere anche su Bing perchè si vedono dei dettagli che la risoluzione del PCN non consente di vedere. Si possono anche spostare le foto di Bing (o di un altro) in JOSM (clicca a destra sul nome del layer che vuoi spostare e poi su offset), e questo funziona bene in un'area piccola a locale (nel raggio di qualche edificio). Per le zone più grandi potrebbe essere necessario di ricontrollare ogni tanto (perchè l'offset non è generale, è localmente diverso, in realtà le foto non sono semplicemente spostate ma sono distorte). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
Ciao a tutti, sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per la 24h di mtb. Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due chiacchiere e bere una birra. Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera per tutti (verificare il regolamento). Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti. Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-( Info: www.24hroma.it Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
2011/8/30 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com: Ciao a tutti, sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per la 24h di mtb. Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due chiacchiere e bere una birra. Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera per tutti (verificare il regolamento). Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti. Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-( Info: www.24hroma.it Ciao Niubii, Se sono a Roma ci vengo. Ho inoltrato anche a Talk-it-Lazio. C'é sempre da mappare, non ti preoccupare ;-) Il parco è qui: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.84479mlon=12.56487zoom=15layers=M (qualcuno ha deciso che non si dovrebbe chiamare parco degli acquedotti anche se tutti lo chiamano così) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Il parco è qui: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.84479mlon=12.56487zoom=15layers=M (qualcuno ha deciso che non si dovrebbe chiamare parco degli acquedotti anche se tutti lo chiamano così) Appio Claudio Park? ma come mai in inglese? Si chiama sul serio così? Metterei loc_name=Parco degli acquedotti così si trova da Nominatim :) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
2011/8/30 Stefano Cavallari spiky.k...@gmail.com: 2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Appio Claudio Park? ma come mai in inglese? Si chiama sul serio così? credo che sia tedesco. Ho messo il nome come nome tedesco ed ho messo Parco degli acquedotti in nome. Ho anche colto l'occasione a mappare un po di dettagli (era ancora in era ante-pcn), e mi sono inventato una relazione type=route route=aqueduct per esempio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1732880 ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti
Grazie mille per le risposte!! Inscritto alla mailing-list del lazio!! :-) le foto aeree di bing nella zona del basso lazio sono a risoluzione minore rispetto a Roma come anche le foto aeree di yahoo dalla zona di cisterna di latina in giù sono a bassissima risoluzione in pratica inutilizzabili logicamente sulla capitale si ha un interesse maggiore ad avere foto aeree migliori si ho scritto al tedesco che comunque alla fine usando le foto di bing ha traslato di poco un pò di strade che ho rimesso apposto io stesso e in oltre gli ho scritto in inglese (anche se non sono bravo in inglese) e mi ha risposto poco fa ammettendo che le foto aeree nella mia zona non sono un gran che altre volte invece ci sono state modifiche alle tracce che ho fatto io di persone non della mia zona che hanno introdotto errori più gravi quindi cercavo solo uno strumento che mi avvertiva di modifiche fatte ai miei dati in modo da controllare comunque anche io spesso uso le foto di bing perchè a volte si riescono a vedere delle strade tra la vegetazione che con le pcn non si vedono Per Maurizio grazie per la segnalazione vedo come funziona!! :-) Il giorno mar, 30/08/2011 alle 11.22 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2011/8/30 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it: Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina Salve e benvenuto. Se vuoi insciriviti pure alla mailinglist del Lazio (non c'è tanto traffico): http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing Accidenti. L'hai scritto? Io proverei di scriverlo spiegando la cosa (con un link al PCN) e sperando che lo rimette a posto lui. ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona? OWL come proposto da Napo. Anche ITO-World potrebbe essere interessante (puoi definire una zona e per esempio farti vedere tutto ciò che ha toccato lui). Richiede la registrazione ma è gratuito. in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing Come osservato da te le foto di Bing hanno un offset rispetto al PCN e secondome la posizione del PCN è più preciso. Inoltre le foto del 2008 sono molto più attuali di quelle di Bing. Comunque in certe zone (Roma) la risoluzione di Bing è maggiore (fino a zoom 21). Forse dovresti settare questi 21 nelle preimpostazioni di JOSM per usufruirne. Per questo alle volte ha senso vedere anche su Bing perchè si vedono dei dettagli che la risoluzione del PCN non consente di vedere. Si possono anche spostare le foto di Bing (o di un altro) in JOSM (clicca a destra sul nome del layer che vuoi spostare e poi su offset), e questo funziona bene in un'area piccola a locale (nel raggio di qualche edificio). Per le zone più grandi potrebbe essere necessario di ricontrollare ogni tanto (perchè l'offset non è generale, è localmente diverso, in realtà le foto non sono semplicemente spostate ma sono distorte). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel Milano Marittima 4 stelle, direttamente sul mare con accesso diretto alla spiaggia, offre ai propri clienti cortesia, servizio, comfort e professionalita'. Tutti gli ambienti sono climatizzati. Gratis III e IV letto per tutta l'estate Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11768d=30-8 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
Io ci sto! Con Martin facciamo 3 ciclisti. Mapping party su 2 ruote? - Messaggio originale - Ciao a tutti, sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per la 24h di mtb. Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due chiacchiere e bere una birra. Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera per tutti (verificare il regolamento). Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti. Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-( Info: www.24hroma.it Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
Si. Mettiamo l'evento sul wiki? Ciao /niubii/ Il 30 agosto 2011 15:58, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com ha scritto: Io ci sto! Con Martin facciamo 3 ciclisti. Mapping party su 2 ruote? - Messaggio originale - Ciao a tutti, sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per la 24h di mtb. Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due chiacchiere e bere una birra. Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera per tutti (verificare il regolamento). Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti. Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-( Info: www.24hroma.it Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] place=neighbourhood
ho formalizato una proposta per quartieri (l'idea era già in giro). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood non si vota ancora. Aspetto i vostri commenti. L'idea è di avere un entità place inferiore a suburb. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
2011/8/30 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com: Si. Mettiamo l'evento sul wiki? se siamo sicuri che al meno uno viene, si. ;-) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre
Sì, siamo sicuri. :-) Ciao /niubii/ Il 30 agosto 2011 17:13, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2011/8/30 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com: Si. Mettiamo l'evento sul wiki? se siamo sicuri che al meno uno viene, si. ;-) ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood
2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: ho formalizato una proposta per quartieri (l'idea era già in giro). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood non si vota ancora. Aspetto i vostri commenti. L'idea è di avere un entità place inferiore a suburb. Mi piace l'idea. Capisco che è dipendente dalla cultura, ma penso che sarebbe comodo avere qualche esempio suburb vs neighbourhood per alcune città famose (capitali europee?) Ciao ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood
2011/8/30 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: 2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: ho formalizato una proposta per quartieri (l'idea era già in giro). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood non si vota ancora. Aspetto i vostri commenti. L'idea è di avere un entità place inferiore a suburb. Mi piace l'idea. Capisco che è dipendente dalla cultura, ma penso che sarebbe comodo avere qualche esempio suburb vs neighbourhood per alcune città famose (capitali europee?) Secondome è facile: un suburb è più grande e un neighbourhood è contenuto dentro un suburb (fa parte). Un esempio a Roma: San Giovanni lo vedo come suburb, mentre Appio Latino lo vedo come neighbourhood (fa parte di San Giovanni). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood
Da come ho capito io, andrebbe a segnalare anche quelle Zone Industriali/Artigianali che sorgono in periferia di molti paesi, corretto? In più credo che sia da sostituire ai quartieri taggati col suburb. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood
2011/8/30 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Da come ho capito io, andrebbe a segnalare anche quelle Zone Industriali/Artigianali che sorgono in periferia di molti paesi, corretto? In più credo che sia da sostituire ai quartieri taggati col suburb. Si, ho pensato di poter usarlo anche per le zone industriali (forse la parola neighbourhood non è il massimo, ma non ho trovato altro). Per quartieri indipendenti (in periferia, isolate, che non fanno parte di una entità suburb più grande) comunque continuerei ad usare surburb. Volevo sopratutto una entità per distinguere i quartieri / municipi veri da quartieri e zone piccole che fanno parte di quelle prime. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood
Si, per fare un esempio di Genova, Pontedecimo potrebbe essere un suburb, mentre il sestiere della Maddalena o San Martino diventerebbero Neighborhood.. Ma i Municipi come divisione amministrativa (ex Circoscrizioni, a Milano esistono le Zone che sono un corrispettivo) non dovrebbero essere rappresentati come boundary=administrative? Il giorno 30 agosto 2011 19:52, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comha scritto: 2011/8/30 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Da come ho capito io, andrebbe a segnalare anche quelle Zone Industriali/Artigianali che sorgono in periferia di molti paesi, corretto? In più credo che sia da sostituire ai quartieri taggati col suburb. Si, ho pensato di poter usarlo anche per le zone industriali (forse la parola neighbourhood non è il massimo, ma non ho trovato altro). Per quartieri indipendenti (in periferia, isolate, che non fanno parte di una entità suburb più grande) comunque continuerei ad usare surburb. Volevo sopratutto una entità per distinguere i quartieri / municipi veri da quartieri e zone piccole che fanno parte di quelle prime. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] accesso con tesserino
Uno degli ingressi del mio dipartimento si apre con un tesserino che solo alcune persone possiedono. buidling = entrance access = ?? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di aiuto per frazione Arcavacata
Il 22 agosto 2011 00:30, niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Purtroppo, Nominatim ha diversi problemi. Tanto per dirne uno, è stato aperto un ticket perché non trova Paris, France. Questo è interessante. Dici che valga la pena aprire un ticket uguale per Arcavacata, o che risolto il problema di uno, tutto si risolva? A questo punto occorrerebbe valutare qualche piano B. Se il problema è solo quello di visualizzare una mappa con la posizione dei LUG, si potrebbe utilizzare Openlayers: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers_POI_layer_example Oddio, il problema tecnico per noi non c'è (intendo dire, possiamo bizzarrirci). Non mi dispiace l'idea di sistemare anche altri piccoli problemi di altri progetti, collateralmente alle necessita' della LugMap. Se mi date qualche indicazioni sul chi contattare/rompere le scatole, posso vedere comunque di insistere. Anche perché di comportamenti buffi ne sono emersi.¹ Nel frattempo ho sentito i gruppi giu' dell'universita', ma al momento non mi ha risposto nessuno. Grazie e buona continuazione, Andrea Gelmini --- ¹ http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/lugmap/2011/000466.html ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] accesso con tesserino
io metterei access = private alla fine ci entrano solo quelli che hanno le chiavi come in tutti gli accessi privati, No? On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 22:11, Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com wrote: Uno degli ingressi del mio dipartimento si apre con un tesserino che solo alcune persone possiedono. buidling = entrance access = ?? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-co] imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les gustaria que estuvieran?
Hola Leonardo Estoy actualmente tramitando mi traslado para el Valle del Iraca en Boyaca'; en menos de un mes seremos vecinos. Me ire' a vivir a Iza y comenzar nueva vida con mi amada Lorena.En fin, espero que podamos reunirnos cuando yo ya este' por alla' y podamos compartir muchas cosas de mapeo, OSM, Geografia, empleo de mapas y SIG. La verdad es que todos mis intentos de mapear en mi tierra aca' en Rionegro, Antioquia han fallado por varios motivos, especialmente problemas de coneccion al web y tambien por que cada que trato de comensar a editar me sale el mensaje: Editing failed - make sure JOSM or Merkaartor is loaded and the remote control option is enabled y tengo el programa JOSM descargado en mi computador. Le he buscado solucion pero nada. Mi experiencia con mapeo web mapping es sumamente limitada ya que mi experiencia con SIG ha sido con plataformas internas de las organizaciones donde he trabajado y con el suite de ESRI: ArcInfo, ArcEdit, ArcView, ArcGIS y algunas extensiones. Estare' en contacto. Saludos y las mejores. Bennet Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:48:28 -0500 From: l...@autobusesaga.com To: talk-co@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-co]imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les gustaria que estuvieran? Hola Yo quisiera Duitama y sus alrededores, tunja y sogamoso El día 26 de agosto de 2011 07:31, Ricardo R harrie...@hotmail.com escribió: Hola Independientemente de como se maneje el pedido de imagenes(de lo cual desconozco, pero espero si se van a hacer hacen peticiones a bing o yahoo se comenten antes siempre por esta via), desearia saber que imagenes aereas les gustaria tener, ESTO SOLO A FIN DE CONSULTA. Personalmente me gustaria que hubieran imagenes de Armenia, Tunja, Tumaco, Quibdo(de esta ultima tal ves dificil por nubosidad), Florencia, Rio Atrato. Aun queda mucho por dibujar de las imagenes existentes Harrierco ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- ___ Leonardo Gutierrez Director Financiero Autobuses AGA de Colombia Duitama www.autobusesaga.com l...@autobusesaga.com Móvil: 3125860894 Este mensaje de correo electrónico y sus documentos adjuntos están dirigidos EXCLUSIVAMENTE a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser CONFIDENCIAL y/o estar LEGALMENTE PROTEGIDA y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de AUTOBUSES AGA DE COLOMBIA LTDA. Si usted recibe este mensaje por ERROR, por favor comuníquese inmediatamente al remitente y ELIMINELO ya que usted NO ESTA AUTORIZADO al uso, revelación, distribución, impresión o copia de toda o alguna parte de la información contenida. ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les gustaria que estuvieran?
Am Dienstag, den 30.08.2011, 15:37 + schrieb Bennet Campoverde: Hola Leonardo Estoy actualmente tramitando mi traslado para el Valle del Iraca en Boyaca'; en menos de un mes seremos vecinos. Me ire' a vivir a Iza y comenzar nueva vida con mi amada Lorena.En fin, espero que podamos reunirnos cuando yo ya este' por alla' y podamos compartir muchas cosas de mapeo, OSM, Geografia, empleo de mapas y SIG. La verdad es que todos mis intentos de mapear en mi tierra aca' en Rionegro, Antioquia han fallado por varios motivos, especialmente problemas de coneccion al web y tambien por que cada que trato de comensar a editar me sale el mensaje: Editing failed - make sure JOSM or Merkaartor is loaded and the remote control option is enabled y tengo el programa JOSM descargado en mi computador. Le he buscado solucion pero nada. Para que funcione es necesario tener abierto JOSM y además haber activado la opción de control remoto que, por seguridad, viene desactivada: Editar - Preferencias - Control remoto - Activar control remoto Mi experiencia con mapeo web mapping es sumamente limitada ya que mi experiencia con SIG ha sido con plataformas internas de las organizaciones donde he trabajado y con el suite de ESRI: ArcInfo, ArcEdit, ArcView, ArcGIS y algunas extensiones. Estare' en contacto. Saludos y las mejores. Bennet Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:48:28 -0500 From: l...@autobusesaga.com To: talk-co@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-co] imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les gustaria que estuvieran? Hola Yo quisiera Duitama y sus alrededores, tunja y sogamoso El día 26 de agosto de 2011 07:31, Ricardo R harrie...@hotmail.com escribió: Hola Independientemente de como se maneje el pedido de imagenes(de lo cual desconozco, pero espero si se van a hacer hacen peticiones a bing o yahoo se comenten antes siempre por esta via), desearia saber que imagenes aereas les gustaria tener, ESTO SOLO A FIN DE CONSULTA. Personalmente me gustaria que hubieran imagenes de Armenia, Tunja, Tumaco, Quibdo(de esta ultima tal ves dificil por nubosidad), Florencia, Rio Atrato. Aun queda mucho por dibujar de las imagenes existentes Harrierco ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- ___ Leonardo Gutierrez Director Financiero Autobuses AGA de Colombia Duitama www.autobusesaga.com l...@autobusesaga.com Móvil: 3125860894 Este mensaje de correo electrónico y sus documentos adjuntos están dirigidos EXCLUSIVAMENTE a los destinatarios especificados. La información contenida puede ser CONFIDENCIAL y/o estar LEGALMENTE PROTEGIDA y no necesariamente refleja la opinión de AUTOBUSES AGA DE COLOMBIA LTDA. Si usted recibe este mensaje por ERROR, por favor comuníquese inmediatamente al remitente y ELIMINELO ya que usted NO ESTA AUTORIZADO al uso, revelación, distribución, impresión o copia de toda o alguna parte de la información contenida. ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-co] Llamado a Ponencias JSL Pasto 2011...
Cordial saludo a todas las listas, En miras de las próximas Jornadas de Software Libre ( http://el-directorio.org/JSL) a realizarse en Pasto el primer puente festivo de Noviembre (4-7 Nov 2011), nos permitimos abrir el llamado a ponencias para las conferencias y talleres que tendran lugar los días Viernes (4) y Sabado (5). Para postular una charla por favor envien un correo electronico a la dirección: [andress.calderon AT gmail.com] con las siguiente información: TITULO Nombre de la ponencia o taller RESPONSABLE(S) Persona a cargo de la ponencia CONTACTO Datos básicos de contacto (Email, Celular, Ciudad de procedencia e Institución o Grupo al que pertenece) TRAJECTORIA Breve resumen sobre la trajectoria profesional o academica del ponente RESUMEN Breve descripción de la conferencia. Se puede referenciar aqui trabajos previos, páginas web, articulos y bibliografía relevante DURACION Cuanto tiempo aproximadamente durará la charla RECURSOS FISICOS Micrófonos, Video Beam, Computadores, Marcador, Tablero, etc... RECURSOS DE SOFWARE Que software requiere tener instalado para el correcto funcionamiento de la charla (Aunque tengas previsto traer tu propia laptop) CONOCIMIENTO PREVIO DE LOS ASISTENTES Que nivel academico requieren los asistentes para sentirse a gusto durante la charla NUMERO MAXIMO DE ASISTENTES (Solo para talleres) Hasta cuantas personas máximo es optimo dirigir el taller Esperaremos aplicaciones hasta 15 antes del evento (21 DE OCTUBRE DE 2001) para una correcta difusión de las conferencias a tratar durante las jornadas. Esperamos su colaboración!!! PD: Por favor, roten esta convocatoria a las listas locales o personas que crean puedan estar interesadas. -- ANDRES O. CALDERON R. MSc. Geoinformation Science Earth Observation University of Twente, The Netherlands. Open Source Rocks - Open Source Rules GNU/Linux User No. 433418 ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?
hejsa, er der nogen der har erfaring med osmosis værktøjet? jeg har downloaded osm data for danmark, og klippet kbh ud og lagt i en postgis database. so far so good. jeg har opsat løbende opdatering via osmosis, og kører opdatering med kommandoen: osmosis --read-replication-interval workingDirectory=changesets/ --simplify-changes --write-pgsql-change database=osm user=emil det ser sådan set ud til at virke, men jeg har svært ved at finde noget dokumentation på værdierne i configation.txt. her er min fil. baseUrl = http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replica intervalLength=86400 maxInterval=0 hvordan skal intervalLength og maxInterval forstås? vh emil tin ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-dk] Folder om OSM og Garmin kort
Hej Alle Er der nogen der har kendskab til foldere om OSM og om at bruge OSM på en Garmin. Har en lokal GPS-pusher, der gerne vil informere sine kunder om OSM og brugen af OSM kort på Garmin. (istedet for Garmins egne kort f.eks. Topo DK til 1499,-) Att. Søren J - har I lavet noget i Cykelforbundets regi? Mvh -- *Jens Winbladh* ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?
On 30-08-2011 09:49, Emil Tin wrote: hejsa, er der nogen der har erfaring med osmosis værktøjet? jeg har downloaded osm data for danmark, og klippet kbh ud og lagt i en postgis database. so far so good. jeg har opsat løbende opdatering via osmosis, og kører opdatering med kommandoen: osmosis --read-replication-interval workingDirectory=changesets/ --simplify-changes --write-pgsql-change database=osm user=emil det ser sådan set ud til at virke, men jeg har svært ved at finde noget dokumentation på værdierne i configation.txt. her er min fil. baseUrl = http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replica intervalLength=86400 maxInterval=0 hvordan skal intervalLength og maxInterval forstås? maxInterval angiver hvor meget osmosis vil hente af gangen. Sætter du den til fx 900 vil den hente ændringer for op til 15 minutter af gangen (hvis din database er sakket bagud). intervalLength kan jeg ikke hjælpe dig med - jeg har ikke en i min configuration.txt, men det er muligvis også en ældre udgave af osmosis jeg bruger. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?
hej jonas, tak for svaret! så maxInterval handler ikke om hvad man henter, men mere om hvordan man henter det? vil kortdata under alle omstændigheder blive helt opdateret? hvis jeg kører opdatering to gange lige efter hinanden tager det stadig tid anden gang - og tiden er afhængig af intervalLength. det tyder på at det angiver fra hvor langt tilbage i tid man henter opdateringer. jeg troede osmosis kiggede i timestampet på ens data og selv fandt ud af hvad man manglede. emil -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jonas Häggqvist [mailto:ras...@rasher.dk] Sendt: 30. august 2011 09:59 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer? On 30-08-2011 09:49, Emil Tin wrote: hejsa, er der nogen der har erfaring med osmosis værktøjet? jeg har downloaded osm data for danmark, og klippet kbh ud og lagt i en postgis database. so far so good. jeg har opsat løbende opdatering via osmosis, og kører opdatering med kommandoen: osmosis --read-replication-interval workingDirectory=changesets/ --simplify-changes --write-pgsql-change database=osm user=emil det ser sådan set ud til at virke, men jeg har svært ved at finde noget dokumentation på værdierne i configation.txt. her er min fil. baseUrl = http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replica intervalLength=86400 maxInterval=0 hvordan skal intervalLength og maxInterval forstås? maxInterval angiver hvor meget osmosis vil hente af gangen. Sætter du den til fx 900 vil den hente ændringer for op til 15 minutter af gangen (hvis din database er sakket bagud). intervalLength kan jeg ikke hjælpe dig med - jeg har ikke en i min configuration.txt, men det er muligvis også en ældre udgave af osmosis jeg bruger. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?
On 30-08-2011 14:22, Emil Tin wrote: hej jonas, tak for svaret! så maxInterval handler ikke om hvad man henter, men mere om hvordan man henter det? vil kortdata under alle omstændigheder blive helt opdateret? Du er vist på rette spor - måske jeg skal prøve at forklare igen. Når du kører osmosis --rri er der to mulige tilfælde: Enten mangler du kun den diffen for det allerseneste minut, eller også mangler du flere. I det første tilfælde henter osmosis bare den ene. I det andet tilfælde henter den ændringer fra det punkt din database pt er ved og op til maxInterval sekunder. Et eksempel: Hvis din database er en time bagud og maxInterval=600, så vil den bagefter være 50 minutter bagud (hvis vi ser bort fra den tid selve operationen tager). Er maxInterval=1800 vil databasen derimod være 30 minutter bagud når osmosis er færdig. Hvis maxInterval=0 tror jeg kun osmosis henter en enkel diff af gangen. Jeg vil anbefale at du i hvert fald sætter den til mindst 180 for at give dit system en bedre chance for at komme up to date. hvis jeg kører opdatering to gange lige efter hinanden tager det stadig tid anden gang - og tiden er afhængig af intervalLength. det tyder på at det angiver fra hvor langt tilbage i tid man henter opdateringer. jeg troede osmosis kiggede i timestampet på ens data og selv fandt ud af hvad man manglede. Som sagt er jeg ikke klar over hvad intervalLength gør, så det kan jeg ikke umiddelbart kommentere på. Du kan altid kigge på state.txt for at se hvor i tiden din database befinder sig. Bliver du ved at køre opdateringen skulle timestampet deri gerne nærme sig det nuværende klokkeslet (så længe din server kan håndtere et minuts ændringer på under et minut, ellers er der problemer). Du skal i øvrigt være velkommen til at kigge forbi vores chat på IRC - #osm-dk på OFTC. Mere her: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC det kan til tider være lidt lettere at få styr på detaljerne i realtid. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?
ok. tak for tippet med irc kanalen! -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jonas Häggqvist [mailto:ras...@rasher.dk] Sendt: 30. august 2011 14:38 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer? On 30-08-2011 14:22, Emil Tin wrote: hej jonas, tak for svaret! så maxInterval handler ikke om hvad man henter, men mere om hvordan man henter det? vil kortdata under alle omstændigheder blive helt opdateret? Du er vist på rette spor - måske jeg skal prøve at forklare igen. Når du kører osmosis --rri er der to mulige tilfælde: Enten mangler du kun den diffen for det allerseneste minut, eller også mangler du flere. I det første tilfælde henter osmosis bare den ene. I det andet tilfælde henter den ændringer fra det punkt din database pt er ved og op til maxInterval sekunder. Et eksempel: Hvis din database er en time bagud og maxInterval=600, så vil den bagefter være 50 minutter bagud (hvis vi ser bort fra den tid selve operationen tager). Er maxInterval=1800 vil databasen derimod være 30 minutter bagud når osmosis er færdig. Hvis maxInterval=0 tror jeg kun osmosis henter en enkel diff af gangen. Jeg vil anbefale at du i hvert fald sætter den til mindst 180 for at give dit system en bedre chance for at komme up to date. hvis jeg kører opdatering to gange lige efter hinanden tager det stadig tid anden gang - og tiden er afhængig af intervalLength. det tyder på at det angiver fra hvor langt tilbage i tid man henter opdateringer. jeg troede osmosis kiggede i timestampet på ens data og selv fandt ud af hvad man manglede. Som sagt er jeg ikke klar over hvad intervalLength gør, så det kan jeg ikke umiddelbart kommentere på. Du kan altid kigge på state.txt for at se hvor i tiden din database befinder sig. Bliver du ved at køre opdateringen skulle timestampet deri gerne nærme sig det nuværende klokkeslet (så længe din server kan håndtere et minuts ændringer på under et minut, ellers er der problemer). Du skal i øvrigt være velkommen til at kigge forbi vores chat på IRC - #osm-dk på OFTC. Mere her: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC det kan til tider være lidt lettere at få styr på detaljerne i realtid. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-at] 1-2 Fragen für einen Neuling
Ahoi Liste, bin relativ neu im Mappinggeschäft, hab mir ein paar Howtos durchgelesen und mich dann gleich mal reingestürzt. Meine Taktik ist, dass ich erst mal die Straßen, Wege, Skipisten berichtige und genauer einzeichne (mittels geoimage.at, immer schön mit dem source-tag) und die Häuser in meiner Heimatgemeinde alle eintrage und nach bestem Wissen und Gewissen tagge (viele Pensionen/Hotels). Jetzt hätte ich 1-2 Fragen: - Kann sich jemand mal Lech/Arlberg anschauen (noch nicht fertig, gerade Wanderwege und einige Gebäude fehlen noch) und mir evtl Tipps geben? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.21501amp;lon=10.139415amp;zoom=14amp;layers=M - Es gibt eine neue Hotelklassifizierung (s, 4 Sterne superior). Soll ich die in dem entsprechenden Feld einfach so eintragen? - Wie genau müssen die Wegen sein? Ich hab jetzt einige Wege recht genau nach geoimage.at nachgezogen, wollte mal nachfragen, obs da eine Obergrenze gibt. - Bei Liftstationen habe ich jetzt das Liftgebäude und den Endknoten der Bahn als Station getagged, ist das korrekt oder soll ich eins von beiden wieder verwerfen? - Wenn ich Gebäude nachzeichne, gibt es da eine Faustregel, wie genau die Gebäude nachgezeichnet werden sollen und in welcher Größe die Gebäude noch in die Karte kommen sollen? Ich zeichne momentan auch kleinere Gerätescheunen ein, ist das zuviel des Guten? btw, irgendwie macht mir Österreich (oder zumindest die Wikiseite auf OSM.org) einen recht inaktiven Eindruck. Überall wird von dem plan.at-Desaster geschrieben. Hat das so zurückgeworfen oder sind da viele frustriert, oder was ist da los? Danke und bis dann, Lukas -- Lukas Bischof p: +43 (664) 416 84 34 w: http://www.wordy-rappinghood.net/ @: lukas.bisc...@gmail.com ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] 1-2 Fragen für einen Neuling
On 30.08.2011 10:23, Hannes Brandstätter-Müller wrote: Ich bin zwar jetzt auch nicht so der Profi, aber ich denk mir immer: man soll so viele Details einzeichnen, wie man Zeit und Lust hat. Richtig, aber bitte auch nur so viele Details wie tatsächlich da sind. Es macht keinen Sinn gerade Wege (imo +/- 2m) als Kurven einzuzeichnen. Natürlich kann man es machen, nur wenn sich schon ein Mensch die Mühe macht, das händisch zu Zeichnen, dann kann der auch gleich die unglaubliche Bildverarbeitungsleistung des Menschen nutzen und nur dort Details eintragen, wo es auch sinnvoll ist, bspw. in Kurven oder auf verschnörkelten Wanderwegen oder so. Der Nachmapper wird einem bestimmt dankbar sein, wenn eine Gerade nicht durch 35 Nodes bestimmt ist, weil der Weg im verpixelten Luftbild mal von einer Pixelreihe in die andere gesprungen ist. Also wenn im Luftbild eine kleine Hütte steht, kann man die durchaus einzeichnen (v.a. wenn man weiß, dass sie wirklich da steht und nicht schon abgerissen/versetzt wurde, oder die Gartenhütte im Ausstellungsbereich eines Baumarkts steht *G*) wenn man Lust hat, aber dann bitte halbwegs rechteckig mit 4 Punkten und eben nicht Pixel für Pixel abmalen. lg, Norbert ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] 1-2 Fragen für einen Neuling
Am Dienstag, den 30.08.2011, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Lukas Bischof: - Es gibt eine neue Hotelklassifizierung (s, 4 Sterne superior). Soll ich die in dem entsprechenden Feld einfach so eintragen? Nachdem es in jedem Land eigene Richtlinien gibt kannst du das problemlos so eintragen. - Wie genau müssen die Wegen sein? Ich hab jetzt einige Wege recht genau nach geoimage.at nachgezogen, wollte mal nachfragen, obs da eine Obergrenze gibt. Bei (Wander-)Wegen mache ich diese so genau wie möglich und bei Strassen mit so wenigen Punkten wie möglich. Aber ich schaue trotzdem drauf, dass der Kurvenverlauf erkennbar ist. Ist wohl auch eine Gefühlssache. Ich glaube Norbert würde bei meinem aktuellen (Landuse-)Projekt einen Schreikrampf bekommen: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.8067lon=13.668zoom=14layers=M - Bei Liftstationen habe ich jetzt das Liftgebäude und den Endknoten der Bahn als Station getagged, ist das korrekt oder soll ich eins von beiden wieder verwerfen? Damit gibt es auf einmal 2 Liftstationen auf jedem Ende, der Endknoten gehört also wieder befreit. Du kannst aber beim Gebäude eventuell noch den Eingang eintragen. building=entrance - Wenn ich Gebäude nachzeichne, gibt es da eine Faustregel, wie genau die Gebäude nachgezeichnet werden sollen und in welcher Größe die Gebäude noch in die Karte kommen sollen? Ich zeichne momentan auch kleinere Gerätescheunen ein, ist das zuviel des Guten? Was da ist und einem Freude macht wird eingezeichnet! - Und wenn es Nachbars Kirschbaum ist. (mundraub.org - leider kein OSM Projekt) btw, irgendwie macht mir Österreich (oder zumindest die Wikiseite auf OSM.org) einen recht inaktiven Eindruck. Überall wird von dem plan.at-Desaster geschrieben. Hat das so zurückgeworfen oder sind da viele frustriert, oder was ist da los? Also damals habe ich mehrere Monate nichts gemacht, weil ich jedes mal so eine Hals bekommen habe wenn ich den Gordischen Knoten wieder zu entwirren versuchte (Grössere Städte waren die Hölle). Mache haben überhaupt aufgehört, da ihnen dann der Entdeckereffekt gefehlt hat. Dafür haben wir gerade im bis dahin leeren ländlichen Bereich viele Strassenkilometer bekommen- wenngleich veraltet, ungenau und teilweise auch völlig falsch. Aber ähm, welche OSM-Seite meinst du eigentlich? In Salzburg sind wir z.B. ein nur locker zusammengewürfelter Haufen wo jeder sein Ding macht. Liebe Grüsse feneks ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-ca] GeoTiff in JOSM
Anyone have a hint of how to view a GeoTiff in JOSM? Manitoba Lands Initiative updated the aerial imagery of Winnipeg and has a 50cm res MrSid file of the Winnipeg capital region; much more up to date than Bing aerial and also including high res pics of areas that Bing doesn't have. I've converted the MrSid file to a tiled GeoTiff, but at 19GB in size I am thinking I'll need to serve it up some how. I'm thinking I may need to use MapServer to serve this as a WMS layer for JOSM, but I'm not finding decent how-tos on that. Any hints? Thanks! ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-cz] Zkracování názvů
Původní zpráva Od: alik dolezal alik.dole...@gmail.com Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Zkracování názvů Datum: 30.8.2011 07:08:51 Ahoj, napadají mě tyhle zkratky: čistírna odpadních vod - ČOV zahradnická osada - zahr. osada zahradnická kolonie - zahr. kolonie chatová osada - chat. osada dopravní podnik - DP pak pro ulice: třída Legionářů - tř. Legionářů OK, přidal jsem. Akorát upozorňuji, že není úplně správné dávat pro zahrádkářskou kolonii tag name=zahrádkářská kolonie. To není její skutečné jméno a informace o tom, že je to zahrádkářská kolonie je už obsažená v tagu landuse=allotments. a poznámka: pokud je v názvu ulice slovo nádraží pak je zkráceno na nádr. např. U Městského nádraží - U Městského nádr., tohle zkrácení mi připadá v pořádku u označení stanice jako Horní Dolní - hlavní nádraží ale u názvu ulice se mi moc nezdá. Samozřejmě je otázkou, zda-li je vůbec možný vytvořit pravidlo, který tyhle dva případy rozliší. OK, není problém omezit to pravidlo jen pro určité tagy. Mějte se fajn Alík 30.8.11, Petr Dlouhý petr.dlo...@email.cz: Ahoj, dneska jsem vyrobil jednoduchý skript na zkracování názvů (zdroj na 1, zkracování názvů k vidění na cyklomapě 2 a seznam všech zkrácení je na 3). Zjišťuji, že není úplně lehký úkol vymyslet univerzální pravidla, která nezkrátí i názvy u kterých by to vypadalo blbě (např. Nár. třída vypadá dobře, ale zkrácení samotného názvu Národní na Nár. už moc patřičná není). Pravidla jsou součástí samotného skriptu - jestli má někdo nějaké tipy, jaká jména ještě zkracovat nebo naopak kde proběhlo zkrácení nepatřičně, tak sem s nimi. [1] https://sourceforge.net/p/pnkmap/code/ci/9748660b281ec77d053ddc1de219c5f663f92bb9/tree/Devel/name_shortcuts.py [2] http://cozpserver3.jinonice.cuni.cz/mtbmap/index.html [3] http://cozpserver2.jinonice.cuni.cz/~petr/download/shortcuts_vystup.txt Petr Dlouhý petr.dlo...@email.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz Petr Dlouhý petr.dlo...@email.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur
Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir. Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits au contrôle de l'AG. Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se révéler irrattrapables, si les vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient. Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée souveraine. Ce qui doit se trouver dans le RI est, d'abord et avant tout, lié au fonctionnement des procédures de l'AG et du CA : Déroulement des séances, procédures électorales, procédures d'admission et de radiation. On y ajoute l'adresse du siège social pour éviter la lourdeur du changement statutaire. Par contre, je serais assez conservateur sur les cotisations et je crois que c'est l'AG qui doit en décider. Ce qui manque et qui est la marque d'un fonctionnement démocratique : une procédure d'appel pour la radiation en prévoyant que celui qui est proposé à la radiation puisse présenter sa défense par écrit ou puisse être invité à se justifier devant le CA et même l'AG. Dans le PublicPad, il est mentionné la question de la présidence de l'AG, en se demandant si le CA risque de la manipuler. Dans toutes les assos importantes et dont les membres sont dispersés, la présidence de l'AG est élue par celle-ci au début de la séance, et il est élu un bureau de 3 ou 4 personnes qui se relaient pour présider les sessions. Le Président en titre peut en faire partie, mais il est souhaitable qu'il ne soit pas le président du bureau qui peut le rappeler à l'ordre, si le président oublie tel ou tel élément de la procédure à suivre. Le bureau peut suspendre la séance de l'AG pour délibérer à part sur un point problématique, s'il y a lieu. Les Articles of Association de la Fondation OSM, outre qu'ils ne comprennent pas l'objet social, les ressources et la gestion financière sont, et c'est différent de chez nous, décrivent longuement les pouvoirs du Board qui sont vastes, mais dont les responsabilités juridiques sont définies en détail. Mais, les procédures et les pouvoirs de l'AG sont également décrits de manière détaillée. C'est dans cet esprit que devrait être rédigé le RI. Avec plus de sobriété que chez les Anglais, car, chez nous, la loi dispense de mettre certains détails techniques., car il suffit de s'y référer. Voir : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Memorandum_and_Articles_of_Association Christian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur
Le 30/08/2011 12:55, Christian Rogel a écrit : Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir. Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits au contrôle de l'AG. Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se révéler irrattrapables, si les vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient. Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée souveraine. Tu oublies que les statuts précisent que les modifications du RI sont à valider par l'AG. Philippe ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur
Le 30 août 2011 à 13:08, Philippe Pary a écrit : Le 30/08/2011 12:55, Christian Rogel a écrit : Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir. Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits au contrôle de l'AG. Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se révéler irrattrapables, si les vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient. Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée souveraine. Tu oublies que les statuts précisent que les modifications du RI sont à valider par l'AG. OK, mais je pense quand même que les catégories de membres relèvent des statuts, même si les détails sur les membres (niveaux des cotisations, membres honoraires et bienfaiteurs) peuvent être renvoyés, par commodité, dans le RI. Christian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:08:27 +0200, Philippe Pary wrote: Le 30/08/2011 12:55, Christian Rogel a écrit : Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir. Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits au contrôle de l'AG. Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se révéler irrattrapables, si les vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient. Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée souveraine. Tu oublies que les statuts précisent que les modifications du RI sont à valider par l'AG. par l'AG ordinaire. Alors qu'un changement de statuts nécessite une AG extraordinaire. -- JB ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Election OSMF
Bonjour, juste un petit rappel que les elections pour la fondation OSMF sont pour bientot. Il y a pour le moment 7 candidats pour 4 postes (Mikel, Ivan, Simone et la mienne). Je conseille d'a tous les membres de la fondation pour voir les programmes. Le lien se trouve ici: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM11/Election_to_Board Emilie Laffray ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Décalage du cadastre
Bonjour à tous, Je m'amuse bien avec OSM sur ma commune (c'est par là : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.9385lon=-0.5987zoom=12layers=M ) J'ai encore des choses à corriger selon Osmose, mais je reviendrais dessus plus tard. Je voulais en effet commencer à travailler sur les communes voisines (Voultegon et Saint-Clémentin), où il me semble qu'il y a du travail plus urgent à faire (bâtiments qui se chevauchent, et qui sont sur la route à Voultegon par exemple : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.932205lon=-0.517885zoom=18layers=M ). J'ai trouvé la source de l'erreur : il y a un décalage de 5 à 10 m entre les cadastres de Saint-Clémentin et Voultegon. Mais lequel est faux et est-ce qu'il est faux sur toute la commune ? La résolution de Bing ne permet pas de bien voir les bâtiments, mais on remarque que les routes sont mal placées. Est-ce que Bing est mieux calé ? Bref, j'ai besoin d'un petit coup de pouce pour débrouiller tout cela... Merci, Mika ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Décalage du cadastre
Le 30 août 2011 20:16, Nicolas Frery nicolas-l...@zoubi.info a écrit : Le 30/08/2011 20:08, Mickaël Guéret a écrit : La résolution de Bing ne permet pas de bien voir les bâtiments, mais on remarque que les routes sont mal placées. Est-ce que Bing est mieux calé ? Bref, j'ai besoin d'un petit coup de pouce pour débrouiller tout cela... Une trace gps pour dire qui est la source décalée ? Un repère geodésique http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/map/cgi-bin/index.py?lat=46.93221lon=-0.51789zoom=18layers=B0FF00Titem=7010 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-ja] 東京駅近辺の鉄道で確認
東です。 東京駅近辺の鉄道で気付いた点を2点。 1.東京駅から北の京浜東北線がありません。 どなたかインポートできる方がおられましたらお願いできませんか。 急ぎではないです。 2.浜松町モノレール駅から北にtramが少し延びています。 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16685130 ここにそのような線路はありましたっけ? 何人かの方が編集されているので単純な間違いとも思えず ご存知の方がおられましたら教えてください。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 関西オープンソース2011+関西コミュニティ大決戦が開催されます。
清野です。 特に反対意見もございませんでしたので、 こちらの方で、以下のようにブース展示とユーザ企画に申し込んでおきました。 - 申し込み日時: 2011/08/31 01:06:36 申し込み種別: ブース出展 【お名前】清野 陽一 (セイノ ヨウイチ) 【E-Mail】 【電話番号】 【所属】OpenStreetMap Japan 【タイトル】自由な地図をみんなの手に!OpenStreetMap 【2011/11/11(金)】 ○ 【2011/11/12(土)】 ○ 【内容】 フリーな地図を作るプロジェクトOpenStreetMapについて、資料配付や展示、デモなどを行います。ステッカーなどの配布も予定しております。お気軽にご質問下さい。 - - 申し込み日時: 2011/08/31 01:15:58 申し込み種別: ユーザー企画 【お名前】清野 陽一 (セイノ ヨウイチ) 【E-Mail】 【電話番号】 【所属】OpenStreetMap Japan 【タイトル】OpenStreetMapのご紹介 【2011/11/11(金)】 × 【2011/11/12(土)】 ○ 【内容】 フリーな地図を作るプロジェクトOpenStreetMapについて、どのような目的のプロジェクトなのか、どのように参加すればいいのかを、現役マッパーが初めての方にも分かりやすくご紹介いたします。 【備考】 清野陽一及び、OpenStreetMapのメンバーが講演いたします。 - 当日はよろしくお願いいたします。 2011年8月29日23:40 Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com: 清野です。 来たる2011年11月11日(金)-12日(土)に、 大阪南港ATC ITM棟 10Fにて 関西オープンソース2011+関西コミュニティ大決戦が開催されます。 詳細は以下のサイトをご参照下さい。 http://k-of.jp/2011/index.html いよいよ本日よりブース展示及びユーザー企画の募集が始まりました。 ※「ユーザー企画」とはセミナーなどを開催する部門のことです。 今回も私が申込者としてOpenStreetMap Japanとしてブース展示・ユーザー企画双方に申し込もうと思います。 もしお越しになられる方がいらっしゃいましたらぜひともご協力の程をよろしくお願いいたします。 なお今回も予定ではOSGeo財団日本支部がFOSS4G Osakaというカンファレンスを同時開催する予定です。 http://www.osgeo.jp/ お互い協力関係にある団体同士ですので、こちらも併せてよろしくお願いいたします。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[OSM-ja] [OSM.jp] 大分市マッピングパーティ
このメッセージはosm.jpへの新規投稿の自動配信です。元記事は文末のURLを参照ください。 元記事URL: http://openstreetmap.jp/node/57 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[OSM-ja] QZSS実証実験
MontBlancです。 準天頂衛星(みちびき)を利用した測位について第3次実証実験の申し込み期限が今日です。 http://www.eiseisokui.or.jp/ja/ 特にL1-SAIFやLEXという補強信号によるサブメーター級・センチメーター級の測位による マッピングなどおもしろいかと思います。 ギリギリですがよかったらOSMFJで検討してみてはいかがですか? ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 東京駅近辺の鉄道で確認
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:13:56AM +0900, Shu Higashi wrote: 2.浜松町モノレール駅から北にtramが少し延びています。 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16685130 ここにそのような線路はありましたっけ? ありません。 何人かの方が編集されているので単純な間違いとも思えず ご存知の方がおられましたら教えてください。 行ってみれば分かりますが、モノレールは浜松町駅が突き当たりで、 その先は伸ばしようがありません。 というわけで消しておきました。 #一応延伸計画はあるんですけどね。 oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM.jp] 大分市マッピングパーティ
三浦です。 サイトにミーティングやマッピングパーティを行ったりする際の スケジュールを登録し、参加名簿管理する用のモジュールを 入れています。 まだ、機能、デザイン的に調整できていませんが、活用いただきたいと、 おもいます。マッピングパーティを入力してみて、地図が必要だなとか 翻訳おかしいなとか、気づきました サイトの左側にイベントがでます。 -Original Message- From: nore...@osmf.jp Sent: 31/08/2011 8:24:06 AM Subject: [OSM-ja] [OSM.jp] 大分市マッピングパーティ このメッセージはosm.jpへの新規投稿の自動配信です。元記事は文末のURLを参照ください。 元記事URL: http://openstreetmap.jp/node/57 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] QZSS実証実験
三浦です。 おもしろそうだけど、今日の今日はつらいっすね。 OSMFJは、コミュニティバックアップを主目的に しているので、自らは基本やらないけど、体制上 窓口になってほしいとかあれば、考えるという 感じですね。 震災対応サイトも、有志で始まったけど、組織の名前が 必要と言うことで、支援している枠組みです。 -Original Message- From: MontBlanc 準天頂衛星(みちびき)を利用した測位について第3次実証実験の申し込み期限が今日です。 http://www.eiseisokui.or.jp/ja/ ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja