Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-30 Per discussione Anthony
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
 +1.  While I'd rather see these objects go away altogether, I think a
 tag of name=Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria
 Area on a closed way implies that this closed way represents an area
 called Melbourne;Geelong;South-Central NSW Area;Central Victoria
 Area.

 I'm not sure boundary=* is appropriate either, as this is not a
 political or governmental or pseudo-governmental division, though
 maybe I'm just not aware of how broadly that tag is used.

 Cool. Well, since these areas aren't AFAIK used for anything except
 these kinds of maps: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nearmap ,
 there's no particular need for them to have tags like name=* or
 boundary=*. I've changed this one.

Sounds good.  I don't think storing these in OSM, with the
non-overlapping tags, is harmful.  While I'd love to see them in a
separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter
is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been
implemented.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Using Openstreetmap in books

2011-08-30 Per discussione Lauris Bukšis-Haberkorns
2011/8/29 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de:
 On 29.08.2011 12:46, Erik Johansson wrote:

 I wonder if someone has
 some information material catered for this kind of audience?

 What about licence issues? According to my understanding, this is/was one of
 the reasons for the licence change from OSM to OBDL.


I don't think current/old license is problem for using OSM maps in
books as long as there is copyright notice

Lafriks

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Re: [OSM-talk] Slim mode in osm2pgsql and out of memory error

2011-08-30 Per discussione Andrei
Stephan Knauss osm at stephans-server.de writes:

 A while ago I did import the planet on my windows machine (i7 920, 12G). 
 I had used -C 3800. So you could give it a bit more ram.
 I have no exact data, but I think it did run for two or three days.


Thank you Stephan!

We will give this a try.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-30 Per discussione Lester Caine

Anthony wrote:

Sounds good.  I don't think storing these in OSM, with the
non-overlapping tags, is harmful.  While I'd love to see them in a
separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter
is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been
implemented.


This is the real problem!
With more and more historic mapping material coming on line, and what seems like 
little support for the start_date/end_date tagging of physical objects that we 
have fairly accurate data on when they did make an appearance or when they were 
redeveloped, linking to other data sources where this information can be stored 
would at least allow it's integration?


And the creation of 'temporary' layers where material is being worked on but has 
not yet been fully integrated would also seem to be a way forward even for 
general mapping?


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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering labels for unrecognised tags

2011-08-30 Per discussione Anthony
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
 Anthony wrote:

 Sounds good.  I don't think storing these in OSM, with the
 non-overlapping tags, is harmful.  While I'd love to see them in a
 separate database or at least a separate layer, the fact of the matter
 is that separate database and/or separate layer hasn't yet really been
 implemented.

 This is the real problem!
 With more and more historic mapping material coming on line, and what seems
 like little support for the start_date/end_date tagging of physical objects
 that we have fairly accurate data on when they did make an appearance or
 when they were redeveloped, linking to other data sources where this
 information can be stored would at least allow it's integration?

 And the creation of 'temporary' layers where material is being worked on but
 has not yet been fully integrated would also seem to be a way forward even
 for general mapping?

Yeah.  I don't think it would be too hard to hack something up that
implements the basic API (enough to run JOSM against) and uses SQLite
as a backend.  This would be runnable by basically anyone, and good
enough for small dataset layers like this one.  Add in the ability
to export to .osm format (very simple) and you could basically run
Mapnik against it with no changes, with or without first merging with
other datasets and/or OSM proper.

But then, while I say it wouldn't be too hard, it would probably
take a few weeks of full time coding, which unfortunately is something
I don't have for something that isn't going to help me pay the bills.
So as much as I hate to see these things in the main db, I'm accepting
of it.

Hopefully someone else will read this email, understand what I'm
talking about, and love the idea, though :).

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[OSM-talk] Google Summer of Code Documentation Sprint

2011-08-30 Per discussione Kate Chapman
Hi All,

Some of you might remember a while back Ian Dees asked for volunteers
for a GSoC Documentation Sprint.  We applied to the sprint and were
accepted!

So myself, Ian Dees and Shaun McDonald will be going to Mountain View,
California the week of October 21st to work on improving some of the
OSM documentation.

Below is what our proposal was:

A free map of the entire world is a compelling reason to sign-up for
OpenStreetMap, but getting started with map editing can be difficult.
By having a getting started guide that can easily be translated into
many languages we hope to reduce the barrier to entry.  Earlier
efforts to make a concise, easily accessible document have grown out
of date and stale, so we hope to start fresh with a document that can
be easily translated, is useful both online and offline, and is easily
maintained.  It is important to us to end up with a document that can
be printed and used in the field, since a majority of our new users
contribute to the project while away from the computer.

Our team hopes to create documentation that can be used immediately
but also improved in the future.  This requires the ability to easily
get new translators up to speed and store the document in many
different formats.  By having this in place we can then continue to
improve the getting started guide over time and be able to recruit new
contributors more easily.

Please note this does not mean we are starting over with
documentation, though it might read that way.  We are more concerned
with compiling what is out there, updating it and have it set-up in a
way that is easy to translate and print.

Thanks!

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[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.93, now with meta data

2011-08-30 Per discussione Roland Olbricht
Hello everybody,

I proudly present the new version 0.6.93 of Overpass API.

Overpass API now also provides the OSM meta data (timestamp, version, 
changeset id, user name, and user id). This allows to use the data directly in 
e.g. JOSM, including re-upload. It is the most-requested feature at the 
moment.

Other features are a hardening of the software against file errors. The 
print/ statement now allows an attribute limit to limit the size of the 
response. And a reworked planet import should now work about faster than 
before.

Read more information on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API

For the next version, which should be 0.7, I'll enable bounding boxes also 
directly for ways and relations. Furthermore, the scripting language will get 
some clean-up around the query statement and a concise semantic suitable for 
effective GET requests. I hope, I'll complete that version in September.

Some details about the meta data:

As expected, this is twice as much more data (65 GB instead of 35 GB) and 
makes the server an order of magnitude slower. To mitigate the effects on 
those that don't need meta data, the feature must be explicitly requested. In 
OSM script, this is done via setting the respective print/ statement to 
mode=meta. In the XAPI compatibility layer, add the directive [@meta].

The meta data give rise to the following special keys inside the XAPI 
compatibility layer:

[@meta]
lets the database include meta data (version, timestamp, changeset
id, user name and user id).

[@user=Roland Olbricht], [@uid=65282]
restricts the data to data last edited by the user. He or she can
be identified by name or by user id.

[@newer=2011-08-01]
restricts the data to only those data last edited after the given
date. This is only possible in combination with another conditional.

The corresponding tags in the scripting language are:

print mode=meta/ instead of print/
for the print statements that shall print meta data.

user name=Roland Olbricht/, user uid=65282/
can be used as a standalone statement and as a sub-statement of a query 
statement.

newer than=2011-08-01/
can only be used as sub-statement of a query statement.

The [@changeset] special key is not realized. I want to keep up the 
possibility to restart at any time for a recent Planet.osm, and that 
Planet.osm won't contain elements that have been deleted meanwhile. Even 
worse, the same is true for an old version referred in the changeset if the 
element has been changed since then. A so much crippled response isn't useful 
any more. These problems do have also an impact on the user and newer queries, 
but I estimate them to be still useful.

Cheers,

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[OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-30 Per discussione Ian Sergeant
I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang 
is flawed.  The best result for OSM is going to be obtained if the core 
data is nearly clean by the day of the relicencing, so that the  removal 
of the remainder has the least possible impact.  However, to accomplish 
that, some incremental deletions or revision hiding could help us get to 
that point with substantially less effort.

The category I think we should address now is where the v1 is created by a 
person who has agreed to the CT, and subsequent revisions are by a person 
who has explicitly declined the CT. 

Specific sub-categories where an automated process could possibly remove 
or hide non-CT latest revisions are..

1. Where additional nodes have been added to or removed from a way that 
are members of only that way and do not extend the way.

2. Where a node has been moved from its previous location by less than, 
say,  1m.

3. (With more complexity) Where change to a way results in no part of the 
way moving by more than, say, 1m, and no additional connections have been 
added.

4. Where  tags outside a set of defined core tags have been added or 
removed.

If we don't like the idea of this automated deletion/revision hiding, an 
alternative (or a complementary strategy) that would make the 
corresponding manual task easier would be for the API to permit hiding of 
the last version of a object if it is non-CT compliant.

The only way that I can think of to effectively manually deal with this 
data now is to delete the object, load an earlier version and copy it, and 
re-upload to the database.  The current reversion strategies all keep the 
non-CT data in the version chain, making it vulnerable.  In doing this 
manual process, valuable CT-compliant history information is lost.

In some areas the amount of data where there is a CT-compliant v1 but 
non-CT-compliant later revision can be over 50% of objects.   In my 
limited experience examining these areas it appears that many of these 
changes are quite small, often small node movements, or a couple of nodes 
added to smooth a way, or single tags added to a large number of objects. 
The manual effort to ascertain what has actually changed is currently 
large, and risk of wasting the effort of future editors in modifying a 
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Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-30 Per discussione John Smith
On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote:

 I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is

What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible
with the current license, cc-by-sa ?

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-30 Per discussione Russ Nelson
John Smith writes:
  On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote:
  
   I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang is
  
  What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible
  with the current license, cc-by-sa ?

What about the people who didn't agree to the CT, but whose data is in
the public domain?

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-30 Per discussione John Smith
On 31 August 2011 15:43, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
 John Smith writes:
   On 31 August 2011 10:19, Ian Sergeant iserg...@hih.com.au wrote:
   
I think the strategy to remove all non-CT compliant data in one big bang 
 is
  
   What about the people that agreed to the CTs that had data compatible
   with the current license, cc-by-sa ?

 What about the people who didn't agree to the CT, but whose data is in
 the public domain?

Exactly, accepting or not accepting the CT might be a suitable
indicator for the majority of mappers, but it won't tell you if the
data is suitable for relicensing, lots of people have been told they
can accept the CTs because they allow for accepting the current
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[OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart

2011-08-30 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
 

Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ?

Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ?

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG (Was: Diverse vragen)

2011-08-30 Per discussione dbussche
Er zijn twee belangrijke redenen voor de import:
1. internationale applicaties zoals smartphone-navigatie en b.v. 
onderzoekstoepassingen verwachten adressen en gebouwen in de dataset, niet 
apart. Niemand gaat speciaal voor Nederland andere code maken.
2. het is nutteloze bezigheidstherapie voor mappers om gebouwen en 
huisnummers in te tekenen die al lang beschikbaar zijn. Mijn tijd en 
energie wil ik liever kwijt in bijhouden van nieuwe ontwikkelingen, taggen 
van gebruik van de gebouwen etc

Wat mij betreft graag een werkgroep oprichten die in eerste instantie 2 
vragen meekrijgt:
- ontwikkel een procedure voor import en up-to-date houden van gebouwen en 
adressen uit BAG rekening houdend met edits van mappers
- ga na welke mogelijkheden de BAG-licentie biedt, hoe we praktisch bij de 
data komen

En dit dan weer hier terugkoppelt alvorens het ook daadwerkelijk te 
bouwen.

Ik wil deel van de werkgroep zijn. Wie meer?

Groeten,

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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart

2011-08-30 Per discussione dbussche
Bedoel je dit?
http://www.öpnvkarte.de
Werkt ondanks de Duitse domain internationaal.

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From:   ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen 
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To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list talk-nl@openstreetmap.org
Date:   30-08-2011 12:16
Subject:[OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart




Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ?
Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ?
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart

2011-08-30 Per discussione Floris Looijesteijn
En deze, een andere vorm van actueel :)

http://kubus.mailspool.nl/spoorkaart/

Groet,
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 Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ?
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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG (Was: Diverse vragen)

2011-08-30 Per discussione Christ van Willegen
Dirk,

 Wat mij betreft graag een werkgroep oprichten die in eerste instantie 2
 vragen meekrijgt:
 - ontwikkel een procedure voor import en up-to-date houden van gebouwen en
 adressen uit BAG rekening houdend met edits van mappers
 - ga na welke mogelijkheden de BAG-licentie biedt, hoe we praktisch bij de
 data komen

 En dit dan weer hier terugkoppelt alvorens het ook daadwerkelijk te
 bouwen.

 Ik wil deel van de werkgroep zijn. Wie meer?

Wil ik ook wel. Ik kan nog wel ergens een uurtje per week afsnoepen
(of een paar meer).

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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart

2011-08-30 Per discussione ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Deze bedoelde ik inderdaad.
Een relatie van mij wil iets dergelijks
(maar dan anders natuurlijk), en ben op zoek naar
iemand die dat kan.
Het gaat om real time, en historie, en
bij klikken op de trein , een arbitraire 
dataset displayen.


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Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] actuele spoorkaart

En deze, een andere vorm van actueel :)

http://kubus.mailspool.nl/spoorkaart/

Groet,
Floris

2011/8/30  dbuss...@goudappel.nl:
 Bedoel je dit?
 http://www.öpnvkarte.de
 Werkt ondanks de Duitse domain internationaal.

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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] BAG (Was: Diverse vragen)

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
Dirk,

Goede nieuwe argumenten in de discussie.

Je eerste argument is bedacht vanuit een gebruikersstandpunt. Ik vind
dat we uit moeten gaan van de eigen kracht; wat definieert ons als
OpenStreetMap ten opzichte van andere databoeren. Als we ons gaan
laten leiden door een specifieke groep 'afnemers' dan gaat onze
uniciteit verloren. Bovendien klopt het niet -- er is geen sprake van
enige regionale consistentie van dekking van adressen of zelfs maar
adresranges in OSM. Een potentiële gebruiker zal dus hoe dan ook de
data-situatie per regio moeten bekijken en hun software en
dataverwerking daarop aan moeten passen.

Je tweede argument vóór de import is sterk. Wat motiveert mappers om
dat soort informatie in te brengen als het gewoon op straat ligt? Niet
veel mensen zullen nog huisnummers gaan invoeren.. Daar is geen eer
meer aan te behalen. Er komt dan een soort kunstmatige scheiding
tussen wat nog interessant is om te mappen en wat niet meer, omdat die
data er al is èn er geen toegevoegde waarde is in het 'warm' mappen.
Als de ontwikkelingen zo doorgaan ligt straks alle overheidsdata op
straat en heeft OSM zichzelf helemaal overbodig gemaakt voor wat
betreft de topografie. Dus dan maar opslokken en verbeteren of
gebruiken als inspiratie?

Ik zie het als een groot dilemma! En daarom goed dat we erover discussiëren.

Martijn

2011/8/30  dbuss...@goudappel.nl:
 - ontwikkel een procedure voor import en up-to-date houden van gebouwen en
 adressen uit BAG rekening houdend met edits van mappers

Je hebt mijn reserveringen gelezen over de (on)mogelijkheden omtrent
dit vraagstuk. Ik wil mijn ideeen graag inbrengen als die werkgroep er
komt.

Let op voor eindeloos polderen: een werkgroep moet een leider, een
trekker hebben. Niet alleen maar deelnemers. Ik ben niet meer in de
positie om zo'n rol te vervullen, maar misschien kun jij dat dan doen.
Veel succces hoe dan ook.

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[OSM-talk-nl] Merge ways?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Nico Witteman
Dank voor de reacties op mijn vorige vragen. Ik heb ook wat aangehaald met
mijn vraag over de BAG merk ik.

 

Nog eentje dan:

Wat is het beleid met betrekking tot merge ways? Soms zijn straten
ingetekend als vele losse onderdelen, zodanig dat de straatnaam steeds
herhaald wordt, op andere plekken zijn het juist langere straten.

 

Hartelijke groet,

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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Merge ways?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Floris Looijesteijn
Hoi,

Soms heeft dat een goede reden, bijvoorbeeld als slechts een stuk van
de weg onderdeel uitmaakt van een relatie, een busroute bijvoorbeeld.
Of als tags, zoals snelheid, niet voor de hele weg hetzelfde zijn.

Maar voor het grootste deel komt dit omdat de data zo was opgebouwd
bij de AND import.

Ik voeg ze meestal wel samen (en gooi de ANDid tags weg) maar probeer
er ook weer niet een hele lange weg van de maken.

Groet,
Floris

2011/8/30 Nico Witteman n...@wittyman.nl:
 Dank voor de reacties op mijn vorige vragen. Ik heb ook wat aangehaald met
 mijn vraag over de BAG merk ik.



 Nog eentje dan:

 Wat is het beleid met betrekking tot “merge ways”? Soms zijn straten
 ingetekend als vele losse onderdelen, zodanig dat de straatnaam steeds
 herhaald wordt, op andere plekken zijn het juist langere straten.



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Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Merge ways?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Frank Fesevur
Nico,

Ik voeg geregeld wegen samen. Maar let op als de diverse delen van de
straat/weg/laan/etc onderdeel van een relatie zijn (bijvoorbeeld OV of
fietsroute).

Gegroet,
Frank

Op 30 augustus 2011 21:47 heeft Nico Witteman n...@wittyman.nl het
volgende geschreven:
 Dank voor de reacties op mijn vorige vragen. Ik heb ook wat aangehaald met
 mijn vraag over de BAG merk ik.



 Nog eentje dan:

 Wat is het beleid met betrekking tot “merge ways”? Soms zijn straten
 ingetekend als vele losse onderdelen, zodanig dat de straatnaam steeds
 herhaald wordt, op andere plekken zijn het juist langere straten.



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Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

2011-08-30 Per discussione Steve Bennett
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
 this is the downside to tracing.  Once an area looks well mapped, there is
 little incentive for anyone to go there to map it properly. I'd really like
 it if all roads that don't have names yet (in OSM) were just deleted. Then
 II'd be much more inclined to drive there and collect all the infomation.

Strong disagreement here. A few reasons:
1) Roads without names are almost as valuable as roads with names for
certain uses. (Eg, choosing a route to save to a GPS works just as
well without names)
2) There are strong arguments that there is no copyright in street
names. If that argument is ever developed, we could easily fill in all
the street names from other sources without doing the ground
surveying.
3) there is little incentive for anyone to go there - perhaps
subjective, but I'm much more motivated to go to a well-mapped area to
check on specific details than to go to an empty area where no one has
even done the low-hanging fruit (ie, traced the streets). Surveying
suburban streets by GPS these days makes about as much sense as using
a horse and cart on a freeway...

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[talk-au] Undreadful Imports

2011-08-30 Per discussione Nick Hocking
Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of
substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very good
data that could be imported.

Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and
flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the minds
of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half
decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence whatsoever
would almost certainly be successful.

There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date,
extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by
the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get
back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling.

Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be

1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult apparently).
2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries.

Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data???
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[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Per discussione Pete Ramjet
 Noticed this morning that user
99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111
has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It
really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work
of other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.

Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my
web browser.

Thanks,
Pete

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[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Per discussione Pete Ramjet
Noticed this morning that user
99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111
has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It
really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work
of other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.

Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my
web browser.

Thanks,
Pete
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Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Per discussione SomeoneElse

On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote:
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a 
large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys 
me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of 
other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.
Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through 
my web browser.




I can just see the one changeset for 99scilla111 - 8994191.  Looking at 
the area in ITO's OSM mapper, there's only one more recent changeset in 
that area and it doesn't seem to overlap it, so a clean revert should be 
possible.


If you ask on the #OSM IRC channel you might get an instantaneous 
response; if not I might be able to have a go in an hour or so.


Cheers,
Andy

PS - and in case anyone is wondering whether this really is vandalism it 
certainly looks like it - changing Old Northern Road to Young 
Southern Road, and a landuse = retail with a Coles in it to tourism 
= theme_park.


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Re: [talk-au] Undreadful Imports

2011-08-30 Per discussione Ben Kelley
Hi.

AFAIK there is no PD source of postcode data.

Merging an import of postcode and/or admin boundaries with existing data
might be quite a time consuming job.

Even if you assume that all the current rev 1 admin/postcode boundaries get
removed at some point (because the ABS does not agree to the new license)
that still leaves a problem for any boundaries that have been edited.

  - Ben Kelley.
On Aug 31, 2011 9:53 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
 Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of
 substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very
good
 data that could be imported.

 Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and
 flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the
minds
 of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half
 decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence
whatsoever
 would almost certainly be successful.

 There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date,
 extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by
 the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get
 back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling.

 Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be

 1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult
apparently).
 2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries.

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Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Per discussione 4x4falcon

Hi Pete,

Unfortunately because you have modified some of these it's not possible 
to revert the changesets.


Have a look here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism

so the next step is to report it to the data working group to have a 
block placed on this user.


Explain that you have already fixed the vandalism and attempted to 
contact them.


Cheers
Ross


On 31/08/11 08:08, Pete Ramjet wrote:

Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large
number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when
somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people.
I've tried contacting them to no avail.
Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through
my web browser.
Thanks,
Pete
/(Reposted after signing up as a member)/



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Re: [Talk-de] Wohngebiete landuse=residential und ihr Bezug zu Straßen, einheitliche Erfassung (war Re: wieder mal - Flächen und Wege)

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 30. August 2011 04:58 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de:
 Was spricht dagegen Strassenflächen und Grundstücksflächen über einen
 Zugehörigkeitstag zusammenzufassen (z.B. landuse_name=Südhangsiedlung),
 dann spielt es keine Rolle wo und wie die landuse-Flächen aufgeteilt sind.


M.E. ist landuse_name seltsam. Wieso nicht place=untergebiet,
name=Südhangsiedlung?
Allein schon -siedlung deutet stark Richtung place.

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[Talk-de] OSMF Board - ich bin Kandidat

2011-08-30 Per discussione Dermot McNally
Hallo zusammen,

ich wollte euch (sehr) kurz mitteilen, dass ich für die kommende OSMF
Wahl Kandidat bin. Alles Infos, auch zu den Anderen würdigen
Kandidaten, hier:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM11/Election_to_Board#Nominations

Dermot

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Re: [Talk-de] Relation Analyzer noch state of the art?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Andreas Tille
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:46:24AM +0200, Adrian Stabiszewski wrote:
 Der Export von GPX und KML Dateien ist nicht Implementiert. Es gibt jedoch
 eine Implementierung des Dijsktra Algorithmus, der den Graphen von einem
 Start-Knoten zu einem End-Knoten durchwandert und eine Liste von Knoten
 zurückliefert. Für diese Liste gibt es auch eine Export-Klasse, die GPX
 Dateien erzeugt. Das einzige Problem ist nur noch herauszufinden, wo die
 Relation anfängt und wo sie endet ;)
 Hat jemand Ideen?

Der Hinweis zu rel2gpx[1] kam ja schon mal in diesem Thread.  Dort
sollte das Problem ja schon mal gelöst worden sein ...  (rel2gpx hat
bei mir immer functioniert, falls RA mal versagt hatte).

Viele Grüße und schönen Dank für die Pflege von RA

   Andreas.


[1] http://mr-unseld.de/?q=de/node/170

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Re: [Talk-de] Wohngebiete als Siedlungsteile (place) (war Re: Wohngebiete landuse=residential und ihr Bezug zu =?iso-8859-1?q?Stra=DFen?=, einheitliche Erfassung (war Re: wieder mal - Flächen und Wege

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Proposal ist hier, Kommentare sind erwünscht:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood

Gruß Martin

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Re: [Talk-de] Wohngebiete als Siedlungsteile (place) (war Re: Wohngebiete landuse=residential und ihr Bezug zu =?iso-8859-1?q?Stra=DFen?=, einheitliche Erfassung (war Re: wieder mal - Flächen und Wege

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 29. August 2011 01:49 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
 On 08/29/2011 01:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
 So könnte
 man bei Bedarf und Lust die Nutzung auch von einzelnen Grundstücken
 angeben (was m.E. der Sinn von landuse ist)

 Meines Erachtens ist landuse fuer relativ grossflaechige
 Flaechennutzungstypen. Vielleicht im Sinne eines Flaechennutzungsplans
 (engl. land-use plan ist etwa das gleiche, wobei ich das ungern sklavisch
 daran koppeln wuerde).


Ich habe mir spasseshalber mal ein paar englische/amerikanische
Landuse plans angesehen und festgestellt, dass das in der Tat ähnlich
ist:
da werden die Straßen ausgenommen, und natürlich sind einzelne in der
Nutzung abweichende Grundstücke in den Planungen auch so
gekennzeichnet (obwohl das Planungen sind, d.h. die idealisieren im
Vergleich zur Realität naturgemäß):
http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/cwp/glossary/images/land_usePlan.jpg
http://www.franklincountyohio.gov/commissioners/edp/planning/southwest/moredocs/LandUsePlan_11x17(10.08).jpg
http://www.countyofsb.org/ceo/RDA/images/Proposed_LU_ranges_July%207%202007.jpg
http://cityofypsilanti.com/maps/images/mastermap2006www.jpg
http://lrdp.ucmerced.edu/images/05-08-08%20eir%20framework/LandUse.jpg
http://www.dublin.oh.us/planning/community/images/OfficialFutureLandUseMap.jpg

darüberhinaus gibt es natürlich auch Beispiele aus der Raumplanung
(general land use plan), das macht man AFAIK in Deutschland in
Maßstäben um die 100.000 und die sind dementsprechend gröber. Oder
Vorpläne im Entwurfsstadium (draft/preliminary) und Studien. Da ist
dann aber auch nicht jedes Haus und jede Straße drin:
http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/depart/cd/current/advance/GeneralPlan/image/GP-LandUseMap.gif
http://www.co.cumberland.nc.us/planning/images/WadeRecomLUPMap.jpg
http://www.scarborough.me.us/planning/documents/planrpt/rp05051z.jpg
http://www.lafayettesquareareacoalition.org/link_25_2682392902.jpg


Wobei m.E. auffallend ist, dass die Pläne alle eine gewisse
Fragmentierung aufweisen. Die Welt ist nunmal vielfältig.

Gruß Martin

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[Talk-de] Kachelnummer

2011-08-30 Per discussione Wolfgang Wienke

Hallo!
Funktioniert bestimmt ganz einfach, nur ich finde es nicht:
Wie/ Wo bekomme ich zu einen bestimmten GPS-Position/ einem bestimmten 
Ort die Nummer der zugehörigen Kachel der Karte?

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Re: [Talk-de] Kachelnummer

2011-08-30 Per discussione Werner Hoch
On Dienstag, 30. August 2011, Wolfgang Wienke wrote:
 Funktioniert bestimmt ganz einfach, nur ich finde es nicht:
 Wie/ Wo bekomme ich zu einen bestimmten GPS-Position/ einem
 bestimmten Ort die Nummer der zugehörigen Kachel der Karte?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_map_tilenames

Grüße
Werner

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[Talk-de] Ortwebseite mit OSM gesucht

2011-08-30 Per discussione o...@tappenbeck.net

hi !

eine zeitlang wurde an einem Baukasten für Webseiten gebastelt und dann 
wurde es ruhiger.


Gibt es vielleicht zwischenzeitlich so eine richtig g...le Webseite 
einer Gemeinde die auf Basis von OSM und OpenLayers sich präsentiert. 
Ich meine so mit Shops finden, Straßen suche .


Gruß Jan :-)

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[Talk-it] Pannelli Solari

2011-08-30 Per discussione Stefano Tampieri
Ciao a tutti,
come si possono mappare le aree agricole/montane convertite al fotovoltaico
?

Di solito si compongono di :
Recinzione per delimitare l'area
  Barrier=Fence
  Fence_Type=Chain

Edificio in Cemento per contenere l'impianto.
  Building=yes
Pannelli Solari
  Landuse=???

Idee ?

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Re: [Talk-it] Pannelli Solari

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
power=generator
generator:method=photovoltaic


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dgenerator

ciao,
Martin

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Re: [Talk-it] Pannelli Solari

2011-08-30 Per discussione niubii
Oltre alle indicazioni di Martin, mi permetto di suggerire:

- Edificio per impianto:
power=sub-station

Ciao
/niubii/


Il 30 agosto 2011 09:37, Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com
ha scritto:
 Ciao a tutti,
 come si possono mappare le aree agricole/montane convertite al fotovoltaico
 ?
 Di solito si compongono di :
 Recinzione per delimitare l'area
       Barrier=Fence
       Fence_Type=Chain
 Edificio in Cemento per contenere l'impianto.
       Building=yes
 Pannelli Solari
       Landuse=???
 Idee ?

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[Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti

2011-08-30 Per discussione Salemme Guido
Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina

qui uso le pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) che in questa zona hanno una
risoluzione maggiore rispetto alle foto aeree di bing in oltre le foto
aeree di bing sono traslate rispetto alle pcn

ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti
che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing

ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate
ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona?

in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio
umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing

 
 
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Re: [Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti

2011-08-30 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
ti consiglio di utilizzare owl_viewer
http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/
Ti selezioni un area da monitorare, e questo ti genera poi un rss
che terrai sempre sotto i lnaso per vedere cosa succede.


2011/8/30 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it:
 Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina

 qui uso le pcn 2008 (lazio umbria) che in questa zona hanno una
 risoluzione maggiore rispetto alle foto aeree di bing in oltre le foto
 aeree di bing sono traslate rispetto alle pcn

 ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti
 che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing

 ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate
 ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona?

 in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio
 umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing



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Re: [Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/30 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it:
 Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina


Salve e benvenuto. Se vuoi insciriviti pure alla mailinglist del Lazio
(non c'è tanto traffico):
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio


 ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti
 che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing


Accidenti. L'hai scritto? Io proverei di scriverlo spiegando la cosa
(con un link al PCN) e sperando che lo rimette a posto lui.


 ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate
 ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona?


OWL come proposto da Napo. Anche ITO-World potrebbe essere
interessante (puoi definire una zona e per esempio farti vedere tutto
ciò che ha toccato lui). Richiede la registrazione ma è gratuito.


 in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio
 umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing


Come osservato da te le foto di Bing hanno un offset rispetto al PCN e
secondome la posizione del PCN è più preciso. Inoltre le foto del 2008
sono molto più attuali di quelle di Bing. Comunque in certe zone
(Roma) la risoluzione di Bing è maggiore (fino a zoom 21). Forse
dovresti settare questi 21 nelle preimpostazioni di JOSM per
usufruirne. Per questo alle volte ha senso vedere anche su Bing perchè
si vedono dei dettagli che la risoluzione del PCN non consente di
vedere.

Si possono anche spostare le foto di Bing (o di un altro) in JOSM
(clicca a destra sul nome del layer che vuoi spostare e poi su
offset), e questo funziona bene in un'area piccola a locale (nel
raggio di qualche edificio). Per le zone più grandi potrebbe essere
necessario di ricontrollare ogni tanto (perchè l'offset non è
generale, è localmente diverso, in realtà le foto non sono
semplicemente spostate ma sono distorte).

ciao,
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[Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione niubii
Ciao a tutti,

sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per
la 24h di mtb.
Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le
21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due
chiacchiere e bere una birra.

Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera
per tutti (verificare il regolamento).
Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe
fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti.

Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-(

Info: www.24hroma.it

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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/30 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com:
 Ciao a tutti,

 sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per
 la 24h di mtb.
 Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le
 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due
 chiacchiere e bere una birra.

 Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera
 per tutti (verificare il regolamento).
 Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe
 fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti.

 Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-(

 Info: www.24hroma.it


Ciao Niubii,

Se sono a Roma ci vengo. Ho inoltrato anche a Talk-it-Lazio. C'é
sempre da mappare, non ti preoccupare ;-)

Il parco è qui:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.84479mlon=12.56487zoom=15layers=M
(qualcuno ha deciso che non si dovrebbe chiamare parco degli
acquedotti anche se tutti lo chiamano così)

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Stefano Cavallari
2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:

 Il parco è qui:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.84479mlon=12.56487zoom=15layers=M
 (qualcuno ha deciso che non si dovrebbe chiamare parco degli
 acquedotti anche se tutti lo chiamano così)

Appio Claudio Park? ma come mai in inglese?
Si chiama sul serio così?
Metterei loc_name=Parco degli acquedotti
così si trova da Nominatim :)

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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/30 Stefano Cavallari spiky.k...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:

 Appio Claudio Park? ma come mai in inglese?
 Si chiama sul serio così?


credo che sia tedesco. Ho messo il nome come nome tedesco ed ho messo
Parco degli acquedotti in nome.
Ho anche colto l'occasione a mappare un po di dettagli (era ancora in
era ante-pcn), e mi sono inventato una relazione
type=route
route=aqueduct

per esempio:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1732880

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Re: [Talk-it] cambiamenti traccie osm da parte di altri utenti

2011-08-30 Per discussione Salemme Guido
Grazie mille per le risposte!!

Inscritto alla mailing-list del lazio!! :-)

le foto aeree di bing nella zona del basso lazio sono a risoluzione
minore rispetto a Roma come anche le foto aeree di yahoo dalla zona di
cisterna di latina in giù sono a bassissima risoluzione in pratica
inutilizzabili

logicamente sulla capitale si ha un interesse maggiore ad avere foto
aeree migliori

si ho scritto al tedesco che comunque alla fine usando le foto di bing
ha traslato di poco un pò di strade che ho rimesso apposto io stesso
e in oltre gli ho scritto in inglese (anche se non sono bravo in
inglese) e mi ha risposto poco fa ammettendo che le foto aeree nella mia
zona non sono un gran che

altre volte invece ci sono state modifiche alle tracce che ho fatto io
di persone non della mia zona che hanno introdotto errori più gravi

quindi cercavo solo uno strumento che mi avvertiva di modifiche fatte ai
miei dati in modo da controllare

comunque anche io spesso uso le foto di bing perchè a volte si riescono
a vedere delle strade tra la vegetazione che con le pcn non si vedono

Per Maurizio grazie per la segnalazione vedo come funziona!! :-)



Il giorno mar, 30/08/2011 alle 11.22 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer ha
scritto:
 2011/8/30 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it:
  Salve mappo nel lazio e soprattutto nella provincia di latina
 
 
 Salve e benvenuto. Se vuoi insciriviti pure alla mailinglist del Lazio
 (non c'è tanto traffico):
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
 
 
  ora un utente tedesco ha modificato i miei tracciati e di altri utenti
  che operano sul comune di Terracina (LT) usando le foto di bing
 
 
 Accidenti. L'hai scritto? Io proverei di scriverlo spiegando la cosa
 (con un link al PCN) e sperando che lo rimette a posto lui.
 
 
  ora mi chiedo c'è un modo per evidenziare tutte le modifiche apportate
  ai miei tracciati in una determinata zona?
 
 
 OWL come proposto da Napo. Anche ITO-World potrebbe essere
 interessante (puoi definire una zona e per esempio farti vedere tutto
 ciò che ha toccato lui). Richiede la registrazione ma è gratuito.
 
 
  in oltre chiedo conferma sulla maggior precisione del pcn 2008 (lazio
  umbria) rispetto alle foto aeree bing
 
 
 Come osservato da te le foto di Bing hanno un offset rispetto al PCN e
 secondome la posizione del PCN è più preciso. Inoltre le foto del 2008
 sono molto più attuali di quelle di Bing. Comunque in certe zone
 (Roma) la risoluzione di Bing è maggiore (fino a zoom 21). Forse
 dovresti settare questi 21 nelle preimpostazioni di JOSM per
 usufruirne. Per questo alle volte ha senso vedere anche su Bing perchè
 si vedono dei dettagli che la risoluzione del PCN non consente di
 vedere.
 
 Si possono anche spostare le foto di Bing (o di un altro) in JOSM
 (clicca a destra sul nome del layer che vuoi spostare e poi su
 offset), e questo funziona bene in un'area piccola a locale (nel
 raggio di qualche edificio). Per le zone più grandi potrebbe essere
 necessario di ricontrollare ogni tanto (perchè l'offset non è
 generale, è localmente diverso, in realtà le foto non sono
 semplicemente spostate ma sono distorte).
 
 ciao,
 Martin
 
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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Fabri
Io ci sto! Con Martin facciamo 3 ciclisti. Mapping party su 2 ruote?

- Messaggio originale -
 Ciao a tutti,
 
 sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per
 la 24h di mtb.
 Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le
 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due
 chiacchiere e bere una birra.
 
 Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera
 per tutti (verificare il regolamento).
 Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe
 fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti.
 
 Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-(
 
 Info: www.24hroma.it
 
 Ciao
 /niubii/
 
 


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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione niubii
Si.
Mettiamo l'evento sul wiki?

Ciao
/niubii/


Il 30 agosto 2011 15:58, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 Io ci sto! Con Martin facciamo 3 ciclisti. Mapping party su 2 ruote?

 - Messaggio originale -
 Ciao a tutti,

 sarò a Roma dal 23 al 25, al parco degli acquedotti (Cinecittà), per
 la 24h di mtb.
 Se qualcuno ha voglia di passare a trovarmi, al venerdì sera dopo le
 21 oppure al sabato mattina prima delle 11, possiamo fare due
 chiacchiere e bere una birra.

 Il venerdì pomeriggio si terrà la Pedalata nella storia. E' libera
 per tutti (verificare il regolamento).
 Dubito che la mappa necessiti di ulteriori contributi, ma si potrebbe
 fare un micro mapping party per inserire eventuali features mancanti.

 Peccato non avere le divise ciclistiche con il logo di OSM! :-(

 Info: www.24hroma.it

 Ciao
 /niubii/




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[Talk-it] place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
ho formalizato una proposta per quartieri (l'idea era già in giro).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood

non si vota ancora. Aspetto i vostri commenti.

L'idea è di avere un entità place inferiore a suburb.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/30 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com:
 Si.
 Mettiamo l'evento sul wiki?


se siamo sicuri che al meno uno viene, si. ;-)

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] Mini-micro raduno a Roma ? 23-25 Settembre

2011-08-30 Per discussione niubii
Sì, siamo sicuri. :-)
Ciao
/niubii/


Il 30 agosto 2011 17:13, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
ha scritto:
 2011/8/30 niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com:
 Si.
 Mettiamo l'evento sul wiki?


 se siamo sicuri che al meno uno viene, si. ;-)

 ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
 ho formalizato una proposta per quartieri (l'idea era già in giro).
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood
 non si vota ancora. Aspetto i vostri commenti.
 L'idea è di avere un entità place inferiore a suburb.

Mi piace l'idea.
Capisco che è dipendente dalla cultura, ma penso che sarebbe comodo
avere qualche esempio suburb vs neighbourhood per alcune città famose
(capitali europee?)

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Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/30 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
 ho formalizato una proposta per quartieri (l'idea era già in giro).
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood
 non si vota ancora. Aspetto i vostri commenti.
 L'idea è di avere un entità place inferiore a suburb.

 Mi piace l'idea.
 Capisco che è dipendente dalla cultura, ma penso che sarebbe comodo
 avere qualche esempio suburb vs neighbourhood per alcune città famose
 (capitali europee?)


Secondome è facile: un suburb è più grande e un neighbourhood è
contenuto dentro un suburb (fa parte). Un esempio a Roma: San
Giovanni lo vedo come suburb, mentre Appio Latino lo vedo come
neighbourhood (fa parte di San Giovanni).

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Per discussione sabas88
Da come ho capito io, andrebbe a segnalare anche quelle Zone
Industriali/Artigianali che sorgono in periferia di molti paesi, corretto?
In più credo che sia da sostituire ai quartieri taggati col suburb.
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Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/30 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com:
 Da come ho capito io, andrebbe a segnalare anche quelle Zone
 Industriali/Artigianali che sorgono in periferia di molti paesi, corretto?
 In più credo che sia da sostituire ai quartieri taggati col suburb.


Si, ho pensato di poter usarlo anche per le zone industriali (forse la
parola neighbourhood non è il massimo, ma non ho trovato altro). Per
quartieri indipendenti (in periferia, isolate, che non fanno parte
di una entità suburb più grande) comunque continuerei ad usare
surburb. Volevo sopratutto una entità per distinguere i quartieri /
municipi veri da quartieri e zone piccole che fanno parte di quelle
prime.

ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Per discussione sabas88
Si, per fare un esempio di Genova, Pontedecimo potrebbe essere un suburb,
mentre il sestiere della Maddalena o San Martino diventerebbero
Neighborhood..
Ma i Municipi come divisione amministrativa (ex Circoscrizioni, a Milano
esistono le Zone che sono un corrispettivo) non dovrebbero essere
rappresentati come boundary=administrative?

Il giorno 30 agosto 2011 19:52, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.comha scritto:

 2011/8/30 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com:
  Da come ho capito io, andrebbe a segnalare anche quelle Zone
  Industriali/Artigianali che sorgono in periferia di molti paesi,
 corretto?
  In più credo che sia da sostituire ai quartieri taggati col suburb.


 Si, ho pensato di poter usarlo anche per le zone industriali (forse la
 parola neighbourhood non è il massimo, ma non ho trovato altro). Per
 quartieri indipendenti (in periferia, isolate, che non fanno parte
 di una entità suburb più grande) comunque continuerei ad usare
 surburb. Volevo sopratutto una entità per distinguere i quartieri /
 municipi veri da quartieri e zone piccole che fanno parte di quelle
 prime.

 ciao,
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[Talk-it] accesso con tesserino

2011-08-30 Per discussione Ruggero
Uno degli ingressi del mio dipartimento si apre con un tesserino che
solo alcune persone possiedono.

buidling = entrance
access = ??

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Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di aiuto per frazione Arcavacata

2011-08-30 Per discussione Andrea Gelmini
Il 22 agosto 2011 00:30, niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 Purtroppo, Nominatim ha diversi problemi.
 Tanto per dirne uno, è stato aperto un ticket perché non trova Paris, France.

Questo è interessante. Dici che valga la pena aprire un ticket uguale
per Arcavacata, o che risolto il problema di uno, tutto si risolva?

 A questo punto occorrerebbe valutare qualche piano B.
 Se il problema è solo quello di visualizzare una mappa con la
 posizione dei LUG, si potrebbe utilizzare Openlayers:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers_POI_layer_example

Oddio, il problema tecnico per noi non c'è (intendo dire, possiamo bizzarrirci).
Non mi dispiace l'idea di sistemare anche altri piccoli problemi di
altri progetti, collateralmente alle necessita' della LugMap.
Se mi date qualche indicazioni sul chi contattare/rompere le scatole,
posso vedere comunque di insistere.
Anche perché di comportamenti buffi ne sono emersi.¹

Nel frattempo ho sentito i gruppi giu' dell'universita', ma al momento
non mi ha risposto nessuno.

Grazie e buona continuazione,
Andrea Gelmini

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Re: [Talk-it] accesso con tesserino

2011-08-30 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
io metterei
access = private

alla fine ci entrano solo quelli che hanno le chiavi come in tutti
gli accessi privati,
No?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 22:11, Ruggero giurr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Uno degli ingressi del mio dipartimento si apre con un tesserino che
 solo alcune persone possiedono.

 buidling = entrance
 access = ??

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Re: [Talk-co] imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les gustaria que estuvieran?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Bennet Campoverde

Hola Leonardo

Estoy actualmente tramitando mi traslado para el Valle del Iraca en Boyaca'; en 
menos de un mes seremos vecinos.  Me ire' a vivir a Iza y comenzar nueva vida 
con mi amada Lorena.En fin, espero que podamos reunirnos cuando yo ya este' 
por alla'  y podamos compartir muchas cosas de mapeo, OSM, Geografia, empleo de 
mapas y SIG.  La verdad es que todos mis intentos de mapear en mi tierra aca' 
en Rionegro, Antioquia han fallado por varios motivos, especialmente problemas 
de coneccion al web y tambien por que  cada que trato de comensar a editar me 
sale el mensaje: Editing failed - make sure JOSM or Merkaartor is loaded and 
the remote control option is enabled  y tengo el programa JOSM descargado en 
mi computador.  Le he buscado solucion pero nada.   Mi experiencia con mapeo 
web mapping es sumamente limitada ya que mi experiencia con SIG ha sido con 
plataformas internas de las organizaciones donde he trabajado y con el suite de 
ESRI: ArcInfo, ArcEdit, ArcView, ArcGIS y algunas extensiones.  Estare' en 
contacto.  Saludos y las mejores.

Bennet


 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:48:28 -0500
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 To: talk-co@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-co]imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les 
 gustaria que estuvieran?
 
 Hola Yo quisiera Duitama y sus alrededores, tunja y sogamoso
 
 El día 26 de agosto de 2011 07:31, Ricardo R harrie...@hotmail.com escribió:
  Hola
 
  Independientemente de como se maneje el pedido de imagenes(de lo cual
  desconozco, pero espero si se  van a hacer hacen peticiones a bing o
  yahoo se comenten antes siempre por esta via), desearia saber que imagenes
  aereas les gustaria tener, ESTO SOLO A FIN DE CONSULTA.
 
  Personalmente me gustaria que hubieran imagenes de Armenia, Tunja, Tumaco,
  Quibdo(de esta ultima tal ves dificil por nubosidad), Florencia, Rio Atrato.
 
  Aun queda mucho por dibujar de las imagenes existentes
 
  Harrierco
 
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Re: [Talk-co] imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les gustaria que estuvieran?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Germán Márquez Mejía
Am Dienstag, den 30.08.2011, 15:37 + schrieb Bennet Campoverde:
 Hola Leonardo
 
 Estoy actualmente tramitando mi traslado para el Valle del Iraca en
 Boyaca'; en menos de un mes seremos vecinos.  Me ire' a vivir a Iza y
 comenzar nueva vida con mi amada Lorena.En fin, espero que podamos
 reunirnos cuando yo ya este' por alla'  y podamos compartir muchas
 cosas de mapeo, OSM, Geografia, empleo de mapas y SIG.  La verdad es
 que todos mis intentos de mapear en mi tierra aca' en Rionegro,
 Antioquia han fallado por varios motivos, especialmente problemas de
 coneccion al web y tambien por que  cada que trato de comensar a
 editar me sale el mensaje: Editing failed - make sure JOSM or
 Merkaartor is loaded and the remote control option is enabled  y
 tengo el programa JOSM descargado en mi computador.  Le he buscado
 solucion pero nada.   

Para que funcione es necesario tener abierto JOSM y además haber
activado la opción de control remoto que, por seguridad, viene
desactivada:

Editar - Preferencias - Control remoto - Activar control remoto

 Mi experiencia con mapeo web mapping es sumamente limitada ya que mi
 experiencia con SIG ha sido con plataformas internas de las
 organizaciones donde he trabajado y con el suite de ESRI: ArcInfo,
 ArcEdit, ArcView, ArcGIS y algunas extensiones.  Estare' en contacto.
 Saludos y las mejores.
 
 Bennet
 
 
  Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:48:28 -0500
  From: l...@autobusesaga.com
  To: talk-co@openstreetmap.org
  Subject: Re: [Talk-co] imagenes satelitales o aereas¿Que otras les
 gustaria que estuvieran?
  
  Hola Yo quisiera Duitama y sus alrededores, tunja y sogamoso
  
  El día 26 de agosto de 2011 07:31, Ricardo R harrie...@hotmail.com
 escribió:
   Hola
  
   Independientemente de como se maneje el pedido de imagenes(de lo
 cual
   desconozco, pero espero si se  van a hacer hacen peticiones a bing
 o
   yahoo se comenten antes siempre por esta via), desearia saber que
 imagenes
   aereas les gustaria tener, ESTO SOLO A FIN DE CONSULTA.
  
   Personalmente me gustaria que hubieran imagenes de Armenia, Tunja,
 Tumaco,
   Quibdo(de esta ultima tal ves dificil por nubosidad), Florencia,
 Rio Atrato.
  
   Aun queda mucho por dibujar de las imagenes existentes
  
   Harrierco
  
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[Talk-co] Llamado a Ponencias JSL Pasto 2011...

2011-08-30 Per discussione Andres Oswaldo Calderon Romero
Cordial saludo a todas las listas,

En miras de las próximas Jornadas de Software Libre (
http://el-directorio.org/JSL) a realizarse en Pasto el primer puente festivo
de Noviembre (4-7 Nov 2011), nos permitimos abrir el llamado a ponencias
para las conferencias y talleres que tendran lugar los días Viernes (4) y
Sabado (5).  Para postular una charla por favor envien un correo electronico
a la dirección: [andress.calderon AT gmail.com] con las siguiente
información:

TITULO
  Nombre de la ponencia o taller
RESPONSABLE(S)
  Persona a cargo de la ponencia
CONTACTO
  Datos básicos de contacto (Email, Celular, Ciudad de procedencia e
Institución o Grupo al que pertenece)
TRAJECTORIA
  Breve resumen sobre la trajectoria profesional o academica del ponente
RESUMEN
  Breve descripción de la conferencia.  Se puede referenciar aqui trabajos
previos, páginas web, articulos y bibliografía relevante
DURACION
  Cuanto tiempo aproximadamente durará la charla
RECURSOS FISICOS
  Micrófonos, Video Beam, Computadores, Marcador, Tablero, etc...
RECURSOS DE SOFWARE
  Que software requiere tener instalado para el correcto funcionamiento de
la charla (Aunque tengas previsto traer tu propia laptop)
CONOCIMIENTO PREVIO DE LOS ASISTENTES
  Que nivel academico requieren los asistentes para sentirse a gusto durante
la charla
NUMERO MAXIMO DE ASISTENTES (Solo para talleres)
  Hasta cuantas personas máximo es optimo dirigir el taller

Esperaremos aplicaciones hasta 15 antes del evento (21 DE OCTUBRE DE 2001)
para una correcta difusión de las conferencias a tratar durante las
jornadas.

Esperamos su colaboración!!!

PD:  Por favor, roten esta convocatoria a las listas locales o personas que
crean puedan estar interesadas.
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MSc. Geoinformation Science  Earth Observation
University of Twente, The Netherlands.

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[Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Emil Tin
hejsa,

er der nogen der har erfaring med osmosis værktøjet? 

jeg har downloaded osm data for danmark, og klippet kbh ud og lagt i en postgis 
database. so far so good.

jeg har opsat løbende opdatering via osmosis, og  kører opdatering med 
kommandoen:

osmosis --read-replication-interval workingDirectory=changesets/ 
--simplify-changes --write-pgsql-change database=osm user=emil

det ser sådan set ud til at virke, men jeg har svært ved at finde noget 
dokumentation på værdierne i configation.txt. her er min fil.

baseUrl = http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replica
intervalLength=86400
maxInterval=0


hvordan skal intervalLength og maxInterval forstås?


vh
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[Talk-dk] Folder om OSM og Garmin kort

2011-08-30 Per discussione Jens Winbladh
Hej Alle

Er der nogen der har kendskab til foldere om OSM og om at bruge OSM på en
Garmin.
Har en lokal GPS-pusher, der gerne vil informere sine kunder om OSM og
brugen af OSM kort på Garmin. (istedet for Garmins egne kort f.eks. Topo DK
til 1499,-)

Att. Søren J - har I lavet noget i Cykelforbundets regi?

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Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Jonas Häggqvist

On 30-08-2011 09:49, Emil Tin wrote:

hejsa,

er der nogen der har erfaring med osmosis værktøjet?

jeg har downloaded osm data for danmark, og klippet kbh ud og lagt i en postgis 
database. so far so good.

jeg har opsat løbende opdatering via osmosis, og  kører opdatering med 
kommandoen:

osmosis --read-replication-interval workingDirectory=changesets/ 
--simplify-changes --write-pgsql-change database=osm user=emil

det ser sådan set ud til at virke, men jeg har svært ved at finde noget 
dokumentation på værdierne i configation.txt. her er min fil.

baseUrl = http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replica
intervalLength=86400
maxInterval=0


hvordan skal intervalLength og maxInterval forstås?


maxInterval angiver hvor meget osmosis vil hente af gangen. Sætter du den 
til fx 900 vil den hente ændringer for op til 15 minutter af gangen (hvis 
din database er sakket bagud).


intervalLength kan jeg ikke hjælpe dig med - jeg har ikke en i min 
configuration.txt, men det er muligvis også en ældre udgave af osmosis jeg 
bruger.


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Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Emil Tin
hej jonas,

tak for svaret! så maxInterval handler ikke om hvad man henter, men mere om 
hvordan man henter det? vil kortdata under alle omstændigheder blive helt 
opdateret?

hvis jeg kører opdatering to gange lige efter hinanden tager det stadig tid 
anden gang - og tiden er afhængig af intervalLength. det tyder på at det 
angiver fra hvor langt tilbage i tid man henter opdateringer. jeg troede 
osmosis kiggede i timestampet på ens data og selv fandt ud af hvad man manglede.


emil



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Fra: Jonas Häggqvist [mailto:ras...@rasher.dk] 
Sendt: 30. august 2011 09:59
Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark
Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

On 30-08-2011 09:49, Emil Tin wrote:
 hejsa,

 er der nogen der har erfaring med osmosis værktøjet?

 jeg har downloaded osm data for danmark, og klippet kbh ud og lagt i en 
 postgis database. so far so good.

 jeg har opsat løbende opdatering via osmosis, og  kører opdatering med 
 kommandoen:

 osmosis --read-replication-interval workingDirectory=changesets/ 
 --simplify-changes --write-pgsql-change database=osm user=emil

 det ser sådan set ud til at virke, men jeg har svært ved at finde noget 
 dokumentation på værdierne i configation.txt. her er min fil.

 baseUrl = http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replica
 intervalLength=86400
 maxInterval=0


 hvordan skal intervalLength og maxInterval forstås?

maxInterval angiver hvor meget osmosis vil hente af gangen. Sætter du den 
til fx 900 vil den hente ændringer for op til 15 minutter af gangen (hvis 
din database er sakket bagud).

intervalLength kan jeg ikke hjælpe dig med - jeg har ikke en i min 
configuration.txt, men det er muligvis også en ældre udgave af osmosis jeg 
bruger.

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Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Jonas Häggqvist

On 30-08-2011 14:22, Emil Tin wrote:

hej jonas,

tak for svaret! så maxInterval handler ikke om hvad man henter, men
mere om hvordan man henter det? vil kortdata under alle omstændigheder
blive helt opdateret?


Du er vist på rette spor - måske jeg skal prøve at forklare igen. Når du 
kører osmosis --rri er der to mulige tilfælde: Enten mangler du kun den 
diffen for det allerseneste minut, eller også mangler du flere. I det 
første tilfælde henter osmosis bare den ene. I det andet tilfælde henter 
den ændringer fra det punkt din database pt er ved og op til maxInterval 
sekunder.


Et eksempel: Hvis din database er en time bagud og maxInterval=600, så vil 
den bagefter være 50 minutter bagud (hvis vi ser bort fra den tid selve 
operationen tager). Er maxInterval=1800 vil databasen derimod være 30 
minutter bagud når osmosis er færdig.


Hvis maxInterval=0 tror jeg kun osmosis henter en enkel diff af gangen. 
Jeg vil anbefale at du i hvert fald sætter den til mindst 180 for at give 
dit system en bedre chance for at komme up to date.



hvis jeg kører opdatering to gange lige efter hinanden tager det stadig
tid anden gang - og tiden er afhængig af intervalLength. det tyder på
at det angiver fra hvor langt tilbage i tid man henter opdateringer.
jeg troede osmosis kiggede i timestampet på ens data og selv fandt ud
af hvad man manglede.


Som sagt er jeg ikke klar over hvad intervalLength gør, så det kan jeg 
ikke umiddelbart kommentere på. Du kan altid kigge på state.txt for at se 
hvor i tiden din database befinder sig. Bliver du ved at køre opdateringen 
skulle timestampet deri gerne nærme sig det nuværende klokkeslet (så længe 
din server kan håndtere et minuts ændringer på under et minut, ellers er 
der problemer).


Du skal i øvrigt være velkommen til at kigge forbi vores chat på IRC - 
#osm-dk på OFTC. Mere her: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC det kan 
til tider være lidt lettere at få styr på detaljerne i realtid.


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Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

2011-08-30 Per discussione Emil Tin

ok.
tak for tippet med irc kanalen!

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Fra: Jonas Häggqvist [mailto:ras...@rasher.dk] 
Sendt: 30. august 2011 14:38
Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark
Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] osmosis - konfiguration af løbenden opdateringer?

On 30-08-2011 14:22, Emil Tin wrote:
 hej jonas,

 tak for svaret! så maxInterval handler ikke om hvad man henter, men
 mere om hvordan man henter det? vil kortdata under alle omstændigheder
 blive helt opdateret?

Du er vist på rette spor - måske jeg skal prøve at forklare igen. Når du 
kører osmosis --rri er der to mulige tilfælde: Enten mangler du kun den 
diffen for det allerseneste minut, eller også mangler du flere. I det 
første tilfælde henter osmosis bare den ene. I det andet tilfælde henter 
den ændringer fra det punkt din database pt er ved og op til maxInterval 
sekunder.

Et eksempel: Hvis din database er en time bagud og maxInterval=600, så vil 
den bagefter være 50 minutter bagud (hvis vi ser bort fra den tid selve 
operationen tager). Er maxInterval=1800 vil databasen derimod være 30 
minutter bagud når osmosis er færdig.

Hvis maxInterval=0 tror jeg kun osmosis henter en enkel diff af gangen. 
Jeg vil anbefale at du i hvert fald sætter den til mindst 180 for at give 
dit system en bedre chance for at komme up to date.

 hvis jeg kører opdatering to gange lige efter hinanden tager det stadig
 tid anden gang - og tiden er afhængig af intervalLength. det tyder på
 at det angiver fra hvor langt tilbage i tid man henter opdateringer.
 jeg troede osmosis kiggede i timestampet på ens data og selv fandt ud
 af hvad man manglede.

Som sagt er jeg ikke klar over hvad intervalLength gør, så det kan jeg 
ikke umiddelbart kommentere på. Du kan altid kigge på state.txt for at se 
hvor i tiden din database befinder sig. Bliver du ved at køre opdateringen 
skulle timestampet deri gerne nærme sig det nuværende klokkeslet (så længe 
din server kan håndtere et minuts ændringer på under et minut, ellers er 
der problemer).

Du skal i øvrigt være velkommen til at kigge forbi vores chat på IRC - 
#osm-dk på OFTC. Mere her: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC det kan 
til tider være lidt lettere at få styr på detaljerne i realtid.

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[Talk-at] 1-2 Fragen für einen Neuling

2011-08-30 Per discussione Lukas Bischof
Ahoi Liste,

bin relativ neu im Mappinggeschäft, hab mir ein paar Howtos durchgelesen und
mich dann gleich mal reingestürzt.
Meine Taktik ist, dass ich erst mal die Straßen, Wege, Skipisten berichtige
und genauer einzeichne (mittels geoimage.at, immer schön mit dem source-tag)
und die Häuser in meiner Heimatgemeinde alle eintrage und nach bestem Wissen
und Gewissen tagge (viele Pensionen/Hotels).

Jetzt hätte ich 1-2 Fragen:
- Kann sich jemand mal Lech/Arlberg anschauen (noch nicht fertig, gerade
Wanderwege und einige Gebäude fehlen noch) und mir evtl Tipps geben?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.21501amp;lon=10.139415amp;zoom=14amp;layers=M
- Es gibt eine neue Hotelklassifizierung (s, 4 Sterne superior). Soll
ich die in dem entsprechenden Feld einfach so eintragen?
- Wie genau müssen die Wegen sein? Ich hab jetzt einige Wege recht genau
nach geoimage.at nachgezogen, wollte mal nachfragen, obs da eine
Obergrenze gibt.
- Bei Liftstationen habe ich jetzt das Liftgebäude und den Endknoten der
Bahn als Station getagged, ist das korrekt oder soll ich eins von beiden
wieder verwerfen?
- Wenn ich Gebäude nachzeichne, gibt es da eine Faustregel, wie genau die
Gebäude nachgezeichnet werden sollen und in welcher Größe die Gebäude noch
in die Karte kommen sollen? Ich zeichne momentan auch kleinere
Gerätescheunen ein, ist das zuviel des Guten?

btw, irgendwie macht mir Österreich (oder zumindest die Wikiseite auf
OSM.org) einen recht inaktiven Eindruck. Überall wird von dem
plan.at-Desaster geschrieben. Hat das so zurückgeworfen oder sind da viele
frustriert, oder was ist da los?


Danke und bis dann,
Lukas

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Re: [Talk-at] 1-2 Fragen für einen Neuling

2011-08-30 Per discussione Norbert Wenzel

On 30.08.2011 10:23, Hannes Brandstätter-Müller wrote:

Ich bin zwar jetzt auch nicht so der Profi, aber ich denk mir immer:
man soll so viele Details einzeichnen, wie man Zeit und Lust hat.


Richtig, aber bitte auch nur so viele Details wie tatsächlich da sind. 
Es macht keinen Sinn gerade Wege (imo +/- 2m) als Kurven einzuzeichnen. 
Natürlich kann man es machen, nur wenn sich schon ein Mensch die Mühe 
macht, das händisch zu Zeichnen, dann kann der auch gleich die 
unglaubliche Bildverarbeitungsleistung des Menschen nutzen und nur dort 
Details eintragen, wo es auch sinnvoll ist, bspw. in Kurven oder auf 
verschnörkelten Wanderwegen oder so.


Der Nachmapper wird einem bestimmt dankbar sein, wenn eine Gerade nicht 
durch 35 Nodes bestimmt ist, weil der Weg im verpixelten Luftbild mal 
von einer Pixelreihe in die andere gesprungen ist.


Also wenn im Luftbild eine kleine Hütte steht, kann man die durchaus 
einzeichnen (v.a. wenn man weiß, dass sie wirklich da steht und nicht 
schon abgerissen/versetzt wurde, oder die Gartenhütte im 
Ausstellungsbereich eines Baumarkts steht *G*) wenn man Lust hat, aber 
dann bitte halbwegs rechteckig mit 4 Punkten und eben nicht Pixel für 
Pixel abmalen.


lg,
Norbert

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Re: [Talk-at] 1-2 Fragen für einen Neuling

2011-08-30 Per discussione Dauser Martin Johannes
Am Dienstag, den 30.08.2011, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Lukas Bischof:



 - Es gibt eine neue Hotelklassifizierung (s, 4 Sterne superior). 
 Soll ich die in dem entsprechenden Feld einfach so eintragen?

Nachdem es in jedem Land eigene Richtlinien gibt kannst du das
problemlos so eintragen.

 - Wie genau müssen die Wegen sein? Ich hab jetzt einige Wege recht
 genau nach geoimage.at nachgezogen, wollte mal nachfragen, obs da eine
 Obergrenze gibt.

Bei (Wander-)Wegen mache ich diese so genau wie möglich und bei Strassen
mit so wenigen Punkten wie möglich. Aber ich schaue trotzdem drauf, dass
der Kurvenverlauf erkennbar ist. Ist wohl auch eine Gefühlssache. Ich
glaube Norbert würde bei meinem aktuellen (Landuse-)Projekt einen
Schreikrampf bekommen:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.8067lon=13.668zoom=14layers=M

 - Bei Liftstationen habe ich jetzt das Liftgebäude und den Endknoten
 der Bahn als Station getagged, ist das korrekt oder soll ich eins von
 beiden wieder verwerfen?

Damit gibt es auf einmal 2 Liftstationen auf jedem Ende, der Endknoten
gehört also wieder befreit. Du kannst aber beim Gebäude eventuell noch
den Eingang eintragen. building=entrance

 - Wenn ich Gebäude nachzeichne, gibt es da eine Faustregel, wie genau
 die Gebäude nachgezeichnet werden sollen und in welcher Größe die
 Gebäude noch in die Karte kommen sollen? Ich zeichne momentan auch
 kleinere Gerätescheunen ein, ist das zuviel des Guten?

Was da ist und einem Freude macht wird eingezeichnet! - Und wenn es
Nachbars Kirschbaum ist. (mundraub.org - leider kein OSM Projekt) 

 btw, irgendwie macht mir Österreich (oder zumindest die Wikiseite auf
 OSM.org) einen recht inaktiven Eindruck. Überall wird von dem
 plan.at-Desaster geschrieben. Hat das so zurückgeworfen oder sind da
 viele frustriert, oder was ist da los?

Also damals habe ich mehrere Monate nichts gemacht, weil ich jedes mal
so eine Hals bekommen habe wenn ich den Gordischen Knoten wieder zu
entwirren versuchte (Grössere Städte waren die Hölle). Mache haben
überhaupt aufgehört, da ihnen dann der Entdeckereffekt gefehlt hat.
Dafür haben wir gerade im bis dahin leeren ländlichen Bereich viele
Strassenkilometer bekommen- wenngleich veraltet, ungenau und teilweise
auch völlig falsch.

Aber ähm, welche OSM-Seite meinst du eigentlich? In Salzburg sind wir
z.B. ein nur locker zusammengewürfelter Haufen wo jeder sein Ding macht.

Liebe Grüsse
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[Talk-ca] GeoTiff in JOSM

2011-08-30 Per discussione Tyler Gunn
Anyone have a hint of how to view a GeoTiff in JOSM?
Manitoba Lands Initiative updated the aerial imagery of Winnipeg and
has a 50cm res MrSid file of the Winnipeg capital region; much more up
to date than Bing aerial and also including high res pics of areas
that Bing doesn't have.
I've converted the MrSid file to a tiled GeoTiff, but at 19GB in size
I am thinking I'll need to serve it up some how.
I'm thinking I may need to use MapServer to serve this as a WMS layer
for JOSM, but I'm not finding decent how-tos on that.
Any hints?
Thanks!

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Re: [Talk-cz] Zkracování názvů

2011-08-30 Per discussione Petr Dlouhý

  Původní zpráva 
 Od: alik dolezal alik.dole...@gmail.com
 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Zkracování názvů
 Datum: 30.8.2011 07:08:51
 
 Ahoj,
 
 napadají mě tyhle zkratky:
 čistírna odpadních vod - ČOV
 zahradnická osada - zahr. osada
 zahradnická kolonie - zahr. kolonie
 chatová osada - chat. osada
 dopravní podnik - DP
 
 pak pro ulice:
 třída Legionářů - tř. Legionářů
 

OK, přidal jsem. Akorát upozorňuji, že není úplně správné dávat pro 
zahrádkářskou kolonii tag name=zahrádkářská kolonie. To není její skutečné 
jméno a informace o tom, že je to zahrádkářská kolonie je už obsažená v tagu 
landuse=allotments.

 a poznámka:
 pokud je v názvu ulice slovo nádraží pak je zkráceno na nádr.
 např. U Městského nádraží - U Městského nádr., tohle zkrácení mi
 připadá v pořádku u označení stanice jako Horní Dolní - hlavní
 nádraží ale u názvu ulice se mi moc nezdá. Samozřejmě je otázkou,
 zda-li je vůbec možný vytvořit pravidlo, který tyhle dva případy
 rozliší.

OK, není problém omezit to pravidlo jen pro určité tagy.

 
 Mějte se fajn
 
 Alík
 
 30.8.11, Petr Dlouhý petr.dlo...@email.cz:
  Ahoj,
 
  dneska jsem vyrobil jednoduchý skript na zkracování názvů (zdroj na 1,
  zkracování názvů k vidění na cyklomapě 2 a seznam všech zkrácení je na 3).
  Zjišťuji, že není úplně lehký úkol vymyslet univerzální pravidla, která
  nezkrátí i názvy u kterých by to vypadalo blbě (např. Nár. třída vypadá
  dobře, ale zkrácení samotného názvu Národní na Nár. už moc patřičná
  není).
  Pravidla jsou součástí samotného skriptu - jestli má někdo nějaké tipy, jaká
  jména ještě zkracovat nebo naopak kde proběhlo zkrácení nepatřičně, tak sem
  s nimi.
 
  [1]
 
 https://sourceforge.net/p/pnkmap/code/ci/9748660b281ec77d053ddc1de219c5f663f92bb9/tree/Devel/name_shortcuts.py
  [2] http://cozpserver3.jinonice.cuni.cz/mtbmap/index.html
  [3] http://cozpserver2.jinonice.cuni.cz/~petr/download/shortcuts_vystup.txt
 
  Petr Dlouhý
  petr.dlo...@email.cz
 
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[OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur

2011-08-30 Per discussione Christian Rogel
Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir.

Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits au 
contrôle de l'AG.
Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se 
révéler irrattrapables, si les 
vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient.
Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée souveraine.

Ce qui doit se trouver dans le RI est, d'abord et avant tout, lié au 
fonctionnement des procédures de l'AG et du CA :

Déroulement des séances, procédures électorales, procédures d'admission et de 
radiation.

On y ajoute l'adresse du siège social pour éviter la lourdeur du changement 
statutaire.
Par contre, je serais assez conservateur sur les cotisations et je crois que 
c'est l'AG qui doit en décider.

Ce qui manque et qui est la marque d'un fonctionnement démocratique : une 
procédure d'appel pour la
radiation en prévoyant que celui qui est proposé à la radiation puisse 
présenter sa défense par écrit ou
puisse être invité à se justifier devant le CA et même l'AG.

Dans le PublicPad, il est mentionné la question de la présidence de l'AG, en se 
demandant si le CA 
risque de la manipuler.

Dans toutes les assos importantes et dont les membres sont dispersés, la 
présidence de l'AG est élue par
celle-ci au début de la séance, et il est élu un bureau de 3 ou 4 personnes qui 
se relaient pour présider les
sessions.

Le Président en titre peut en faire partie, mais il est souhaitable qu'il ne 
soit pas le président
du bureau qui peut le rappeler à l'ordre, si le président oublie tel ou tel 
élément de la procédure à suivre.
Le bureau peut suspendre la séance de l'AG pour délibérer à part sur un point 
problématique, s'il y a lieu.


Les Articles of Association de la Fondation OSM, outre qu'ils ne comprennent 
pas l'objet social, les 
ressources et la gestion financière sont, et c'est différent de chez nous, 
décrivent longuement les
pouvoirs du Board qui sont vastes, mais dont les responsabilités juridiques 
sont définies en détail.

Mais, les procédures et les pouvoirs de l'AG sont également décrits de manière 
détaillée.

C'est dans cet esprit que devrait être rédigé le RI. Avec plus de sobriété que 
chez les Anglais, car, chez nous, 
la loi dispense de mettre certains détails techniques., car il suffit de s'y 
référer.

Voir : 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Memorandum_and_Articles_of_Association



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur

2011-08-30 Per discussione Philippe Pary
Le 30/08/2011 12:55, Christian Rogel a écrit :
 Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir.
 
 Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits 
 au contrôle de l'AG.
 Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se 
 révéler irrattrapables, si les 
 vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient.
 Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée souveraine.

Tu oublies que les statuts précisent que les modifications du RI sont à
valider par l'AG.

Philippe

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur

2011-08-30 Per discussione Christian Rogel

Le 30 août 2011 à 13:08, Philippe Pary a écrit :

 
 Le 30/08/2011 12:55, Christian Rogel a écrit :
 Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir.
 
 Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont soustraits 
 au contrôle de l'AG.
 Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui pourraient se 
 révéler irrattrapables, si les 
 vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient.
 Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée 
 souveraine.
 
 Tu oublies que les statuts précisent que les modifications du RI sont à
 valider par l'AG.


OK, mais je pense quand même que les catégories de membres relèvent des 
statuts, même si les 
détails sur les membres (niveaux des cotisations, membres honoraires et 
bienfaiteurs) peuvent être 
renvoyés, par commodité, dans le RI.

Christian



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Règlement intérieur

2011-08-30 Per discussione julien

On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:08:27 +0200, Philippe Pary wrote:

Le 30/08/2011 12:55, Christian Rogel a écrit :

Je n'avais pas regardé le projet de RI avant hier au soir.

Je me demande pourquoi les articles sur la qualité de membre sont 
soustraits au contrôle de l'AG.
Il n'est pas sain que le CA puisse créer des situations qui 
pourraient se révéler irrattrapables, si les

vannes sont ouvertes à mauvais escient.
Le plus sûr est donc de s'en remettre aux décisions de l'assemblée 
souveraine.


Tu oublies que les statuts précisent que les modifications du RI sont 
à

valider par l'AG.


par l'AG ordinaire.
Alors qu'un changement de statuts nécessite une AG extraordinaire.

--
JB

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[OSM-talk-fr] Election OSMF

2011-08-30 Per discussione Emilie Laffray
Bonjour,

juste un petit rappel que les elections pour la fondation OSMF sont pour
bientot. Il y a pour le moment 7 candidats pour 4 postes (Mikel, Ivan,
Simone et la mienne).
Je conseille d'a tous les membres de la fondation pour voir les programmes.
Le lien se trouve ici:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM11/Election_to_Board

Emilie Laffray
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[OSM-talk-fr] Décalage du cadastre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Mickaël Guéret
Bonjour à tous,

Je m'amuse bien avec OSM sur ma commune (c'est par là :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.9385lon=-0.5987zoom=12layers=M )
J'ai encore des choses à corriger selon Osmose, mais je reviendrais
dessus plus tard.
Je voulais en effet commencer à travailler sur les communes voisines
(Voultegon et Saint-Clémentin), où il me semble qu'il y a du travail
plus urgent à faire (bâtiments qui se chevauchent, et qui sont sur la
route à Voultegon par exemple :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.932205lon=-0.517885zoom=18layers=M ). 
J'ai trouvé la source de l'erreur : il y a un décalage de 5 à 10 m entre les 
cadastres de Saint-Clémentin et Voultegon. Mais lequel est faux et est-ce qu'il 
est faux sur toute la commune ?
La résolution de Bing ne permet pas de bien voir les bâtiments, mais on
remarque que les routes sont mal placées. Est-ce que Bing est mieux
calé ? Bref, j'ai besoin d'un petit coup de pouce pour débrouiller tout
cela...

Merci,
Mika


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Décalage du cadastre

2011-08-30 Per discussione Bruno Cortial
Le 30 août 2011 20:16, Nicolas Frery nicolas-l...@zoubi.info a écrit :

 Le 30/08/2011 20:08, Mickaël Guéret a écrit :
  La résolution de Bing ne permet pas de bien voir les bâtiments, mais on
  remarque que les routes sont mal placées. Est-ce que Bing est mieux
  calé ? Bref, j'ai besoin d'un petit coup de pouce pour débrouiller tout
  cela...
 

 Une trace gps pour dire qui est la source décalée ?


Un repère geodésique
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/map/cgi-bin/index.py?lat=46.93221lon=-0.51789zoom=18layers=B0FF00Titem=7010
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[OSM-ja] 東京駅近辺の鉄道で確認

2011-08-30 Per discussione Shu Higashi
東です。

東京駅近辺の鉄道で気付いた点を2点。

1.東京駅から北の京浜東北線がありません。
どなたかインポートできる方がおられましたらお願いできませんか。
急ぎではないです。

2.浜松町モノレール駅から北にtramが少し延びています。
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16685130
ここにそのような線路はありましたっけ?
何人かの方が編集されているので単純な間違いとも思えず
ご存知の方がおられましたら教えてください。

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Re: [OSM-ja] 関西オープンソース2011+関西コミュニティ大決戦が開催されます。

2011-08-30 Per discussione Yoichi Seino
清野です。

特に反対意見もございませんでしたので、
こちらの方で、以下のようにブース展示とユーザ企画に申し込んでおきました。
-
申し込み日時: 2011/08/31 01:06:36
申し込み種別: ブース出展

【お名前】清野 陽一 (セイノ ヨウイチ)
【E-Mail】
【電話番号】

【所属】OpenStreetMap Japan
【タイトル】自由な地図をみんなの手に!OpenStreetMap
【2011/11/11(金)】 ○
【2011/11/12(土)】 ○

【内容】
フリーな地図を作るプロジェクトOpenStreetMapについて、資料配付や展示、デモなどを行います。ステッカーなどの配布も予定しております。お気軽にご質問下さい。
-

-
申し込み日時: 2011/08/31 01:15:58
申し込み種別: ユーザー企画

【お名前】清野 陽一 (セイノ ヨウイチ)
【E-Mail】
【電話番号】

【所属】OpenStreetMap Japan
【タイトル】OpenStreetMapのご紹介
【2011/11/11(金)】 ×
【2011/11/12(土)】 ○

【内容】
フリーな地図を作るプロジェクトOpenStreetMapについて、どのような目的のプロジェクトなのか、どのように参加すればいいのかを、現役マッパーが初めての方にも分かりやすくご紹介いたします。

【備考】
清野陽一及び、OpenStreetMapのメンバーが講演いたします。
-

当日はよろしくお願いいたします。


2011年8月29日23:40 Yoichi Seino say.n...@gmail.com:
 清野です。

 来たる2011年11月11日(金)-12日(土)に、
 大阪南港ATC ITM棟 10Fにて
 関西オープンソース2011+関西コミュニティ大決戦が開催されます。
 詳細は以下のサイトをご参照下さい。
 http://k-of.jp/2011/index.html

 いよいよ本日よりブース展示及びユーザー企画の募集が始まりました。
 ※「ユーザー企画」とはセミナーなどを開催する部門のことです。
 今回も私が申込者としてOpenStreetMap Japanとしてブース展示・ユーザー企画双方に申し込もうと思います。
 もしお越しになられる方がいらっしゃいましたらぜひともご協力の程をよろしくお願いいたします。

 なお今回も予定ではOSGeo財団日本支部がFOSS4G Osakaというカンファレンスを同時開催する予定です。
 http://www.osgeo.jp/
 お互い協力関係にある団体同士ですので、こちらも併せてよろしくお願いいたします。


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[OSM-ja] [OSM.jp] 大分市マッピングパーティ

2011-08-30 Per discussione noreply

このメッセージはosm.jpへの新規投稿の自動配信です。元記事は文末のURLを参照ください。

元記事URL: http://openstreetmap.jp/node/57


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[OSM-ja] QZSS実証実験

2011-08-30 Per discussione MontBlanc
MontBlancです。

準天頂衛星(みちびき)を利用した測位について第3次実証実験の申し込み期限が今日です。

http://www.eiseisokui.or.jp/ja/

特にL1-SAIFやLEXという補強信号によるサブメーター級・センチメーター級の測位による
マッピングなどおもしろいかと思います。
ギリギリですがよかったらOSMFJで検討してみてはいかがですか?

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Re: [OSM-ja] 東京駅近辺の鉄道で確認

2011-08-30 Per discussione ribbon
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:13:56AM +0900, Shu Higashi wrote:

 2.浜松町モノレール駅から北にtramが少し延びています。
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/16685130
 ここにそのような線路はありましたっけ?

ありません。

 何人かの方が編集されているので単純な間違いとも思えず
 ご存知の方がおられましたら教えてください。

行ってみれば分かりますが、モノレールは浜松町駅が突き当たりで、
その先は伸ばしようがありません。

というわけで消しておきました。

#一応延伸計画はあるんですけどね。

oota

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Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM.jp] 大分市マッピングパーティ

2011-08-30 Per discussione Hiroshi Miura
三浦です。

サイトにミーティングやマッピングパーティを行ったりする際の
スケジュールを登録し、参加名簿管理する用のモジュールを
入れています。

まだ、機能、デザイン的に調整できていませんが、活用いただきたいと、
おもいます。マッピングパーティを入力してみて、地図が必要だなとか
翻訳おかしいなとか、気づきました

サイトの左側にイベントがでます。

-Original Message-
From: nore...@osmf.jp
Sent:  31/08/2011 8:24:06 AM
Subject:  [OSM-ja] [OSM.jp] 大分市マッピングパーティ

このメッセージはosm.jpへの新規投稿の自動配信です。元記事は文末のURLを参照ください。

元記事URL: http://openstreetmap.jp/node/57


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Re: [OSM-ja] QZSS実証実験

2011-08-30 Per discussione Hiroshi Miura
三浦です。

おもしろそうだけど、今日の今日はつらいっすね。
OSMFJは、コミュニティバックアップを主目的に
しているので、自らは基本やらないけど、体制上
窓口になってほしいとかあれば、考えるという
感じですね。
震災対応サイトも、有志で始まったけど、組織の名前が
必要と言うことで、支援している枠組みです。

-Original Message-
From: MontBlanc

準天頂衛星(みちびき)を利用した測位について第3次実証実験の申し込み期限が今日です。

http://www.eiseisokui.or.jp/ja/


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