Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

On 4. Aug 2019, at 18:33, Federico Cortese  wrote:

>> Se l'ingresso del POI e del civico coincidono, io metto le informazioni in 
>> un unico nodo.
> 
> Sì anche io


sì, lo faccio spesso anch’io (quando non mappo gli ingressi ma solo dei singoli 
POI). Sempre di meno però.

Ciao Martin 



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Manque d'attribution : je suis estomaquée

[Alarig Le Lay via Talk-fr]

Hello,

On dim.  4 août 22:27:11 2019, deuzeffe wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Ici 
> https://www.tourisme-marseille.com/la-carte-xxl-de-decouverte-et-d-exploration-de-la-ville-de-marseille/
> je crois reconnaître osm-cartocss. J'ai bon ?
> 
> Si oui, que fait le mot Google en bas à gauche, et pourquoi les conditions
> d'utilisation renvoient à celles de gg ?
> 
> Si j'ai toujours bon, le gars a un sacré culot, surtout quand on lit les
> mentions légales du site (article 5 en particulier).
> 
> Si quelqu'un de plus aguerri que moi pense qu'il y a un détournement
> manifeste, le gars peut être interpellé sur son twitter :
> https://twitter.com/TOURISMEMARSEIL

La carte ressemble effectivement beaucoup à OSM. Leur site, va taper à
la fois sur maps.google.com mais aussi sur tile.openstreetmap.org
https://pix.milkywan.fr/dgcgEoYG.png

Je ne sais pas comment ils ont foutu leur truc…

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 17:10, Andrea Musuruane  wrote:
> 
> Se questo non è possibile, separo sempre il POI e il civico (evito sempre di 
> duplicare l'indirizzo).


questo è il tuo diritto, nessuno ti obbliga di inserire gli indirizzi dei POI o 
qualsiasi altra informazione, per me l’importante è che non li rimuovi quando 
qualcun’altro li ha aggiunto.


dal mio punto di vista i casi dov’è possibile unire un POI con un cancello  o 
un ingresso sono rarissimi 


> 
> Non metto mai l'indirizzo sui building.


anch’io lo faccio raramente, quasi mai.


> 
> Quello che chiedi è un tag tipo contact:addr:*


no, quello che tu chiedi è un tag tipo civico=yes

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 4. Aug 2019, at 17:05, Andrea Musuruane  wrote:
> 
> In questo modo, se io cerco il civico, come faccio a sapere dove devo andare? 
> Troverà sia l'accesso che i POI e non si sarà in grado di distinguerli.


la distinzione è facile: se trovi un gate, entrance o simile con un indirizzo è 
assegnato a questo (sarebbe “il civico”), invece quando si tratta di un POI è 
probabilmente “solo un indirizzo” e non “il civico”. Un altro modo sarebbe: 
venendo dalla strada il primo oggetto con civico che incontri è “il civico”.
Ai fini pratici non credo faccia differenza (per il caso che descrivi, vuoi 
andare da un indirizzo specifico).


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[Talk-it] Corretta attribuzione

[claudio62PG]

Per una volta vorrei segnalare una *corretta* attribuzione
iliad   
ciao
Claudio



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Re: [Talk-ee] SviMik_import is back to life

[SviMik via Talk-ee]

First, I'd really like you to stop being so aggressive. You could spend that 
energy to actually do something to improve OSM rather than ranting about not 
being able to understand other languages. Keep in mind that I was respectful 
enough to start this discussion in English, so literally everyone could 
understand me. And you was disrespectful enough to say that people who speak 
Russian are not part of the local community, even when they physically live in 
Estonia. Don't be racist, OSM is not about the race or the language we speak, 
okay? International projects are supposed to bring people together. Where does 
this hatred come from?

Now, here are my points:

1) It was discussed in talk-ee mailing list 30.03.2013.

2) After the 2013 import was done, I even made a short presentation during SotM 
Baltics 2013 explaining this import and the tools we used.

3) You’re talking about maintaining the data, but that's exactly what I'm doing 
right now.

4) I'm really sorry for you if your import was a crap. Mine wasn't. Even 
looking at my import 5 years later I can still say that it was a complete 
success and the right thing to do.

5) The source of the data is Maa-amet. I'm not offering any editor tools nor 
any way to alter the data. My tools are only to confirm or reject the objects 
to be imported, thus there is no editors per se that needs to be identified.

6) This is not a blind import - people see every single change that is going to 
happen, and free to confirm or reject every one of them.


Воскресенье,  4 августа 2019, 19:41 +03:00 от "Jaak Laineste" 
:
> 
> Your tools are really cool from technical perspective, but have you ever
> discussed it fully with the local community, so the stategy is agreed? I see
> link in the wiki page to some forum, but this is not a local community forum,
> it is Russian forum and it is even in a language what a lot of younger
> generation does not understand. It is just as absurd as if we would start to
> discuss in Estonian how to map say New York, agree some strategies and then
> assume that it is ok to garbage the map there. I really hope you don't
> consider Estonia somehow as a part of Russia.
> 
> My position is that in early years of OSM automatic imports of map for regions
> what you don’t know made some sense, but now they do more harm - create map
> data what is not maintained and not maintainable. Kind of digital garbage. Is
> is much better map less, more carefully, and avoid senseless copy of other map
> data.  Again, if someone needs Maaamet maps then they should take the latest
> version from them anytime. There is no need to copy if over to OSM at all. OSM
> is never meant to be collection of different geo datasets, even if they are
> really nice, it is human-created original global map database. 
> 
> Now if you decide to do it, then the editors must be identified. There is
> process on agreeing on legal contributor terms of edits, including right to
> take back the agreement. If you put all edits under your own name, then anyone
> can claim that you did not do the edits, and can request to just undo all of
> them. It looks like complete legal mess there from IP perspective. Also there
> is no way to ask comments/clarifications about specific edits. Therefore
> proper way to do it would be like with editors like ID, JOSM etc - every user
> is identified with OSM username, takes responsibility for his/her edits, so it
> is clear who to contact and who is responsible for this. 
> 
> I did several mass-imports in early OSM days myself, after discussions with
> local and international community.  They looked nice at once, but in longer
> term maybe it was even bad idea, there would be more motivated contributors,
> and the map would be more useful and interesting without them. There is still
> “dead” data what noone can update (from Corine for example), and I would be
> more happy if someone would create a tool to automatically delete it now. 
> 
> Jaak
> 
> 
> > On 4 Aug 2019, at 14:26, SviMik  wrote:
> > 
> > For everyone who is new here, this is exactly the same import we did 5 years
> ago, just updating it with new data.
> > 
> > The import is briefly described on the wiki page:
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maa-amet#Import
> > 
> > 1. The account for the imports is:
> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SviMik_import/history
> > 
> > 2. Why do you need streets? I'm just asking to confirm putting that address
> on that outline. All you need to do is just make sure they match.
> > 
> > 
> > Воскресенье,  4 августа 2019, 13:16 +03:00 от "Jaak Laineste"
> :
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> About first 2 tools:
> >> 
> >> 1. what they do as result exactly? add data to OSM database? If yes, then
> >> under which username? I don’t see any auth here, is feels like  “anonymous
> >> editor”, but OSM does not allow anonymous edits.
> >> 
> >> 2. about second one - map view is too much zoomed in, usually I don’t see
> any
> >> streets to see the context, 

[OSM-talk-fr] Manque d'attribution : je suis estomaquée

[deuzeffe]

Hello,

Ici 
https://www.tourisme-marseille.com/la-carte-xxl-de-decouverte-et-d-exploration-de-la-ville-de-marseille/ 
je crois reconnaître osm-cartocss. J'ai bon ?


Si oui, que fait le mot Google en bas à gauche, et pourquoi les 
conditions d'utilisation renvoient à celles de gg ?


Si j'ai toujours bon, le gars a un sacré culot, surtout quand on lit les 
mentions légales du site (article 5 en particulier).


Si quelqu'un de plus aguerri que moi pense qu'il y a un détournement 
manifeste, le gars peut être interpellé sur son twitter : 
https://twitter.com/TOURISMEMARSEIL


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Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data

[Borbus]

> Just a quick comment. Parts of the Maxar imagery seem to have significant
offsets.

I have noticed that too. The geometry is often wonky with incorrect angles.
I'm not sure how that's possible, but comparison with something like Esri
reveals it. At the moment I'm using it more for confirming details that
aren't present on older imagery rather than trying to get precise geometry
from it.

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 8:24 PM ael  wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:34:53PM +0100, Borbus wrote:
> > looks like the new Maxar imagery is quite recent in that area and,
>
> Just a quick comment. Parts of the Maxar imagery seem to have significant
> offsets. At least I have noticed that it often does not match my
> (fairly accurate) gps tracks. And its offsets don't match those for
> Maxbox. I think it is marked "beta" presumably in case of these sorts
> of problem.
>
> ael
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data

[ael]

On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 12:34:53PM +0100, Borbus wrote:
> looks like the new Maxar imagery is quite recent in that area and,

Just a quick comment. Parts of the Maxar imagery seem to have significant
offsets. At least I have noticed that it often does not match my 
(fairly accurate) gps tracks. And its offsets don't match those for
Maxbox. I think it is marked "beta" presumably in case of these sorts
of problem.

ael


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[Talk-es] Agradecimiento por la traducción del wiki

[dcapillae]

Buenas tardes.

En otras ocasiones he comentado la importancia de la traducción del wiki. No
insistiré más en ello. Solo quería publicar un mensaje de agradecimiento a
todos los que colaboráis en su traducción. Hay varios usuarios y no quiero
olvidarme de ninguno, pero en especial mencionaré a Mweper desde Argentina
[1], a Jonha Rupire desde Perú [2] y a nuestro Emilio Gómez en España [3].

Espero poder seguir colaborando con vosotros en mejorar la traducción del
wiki en español [4].

Muchas gracias a todos.

Atentamente,
Daniel

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mweper
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Johna_Rupire
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tony_Rotondas
[4]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Wikiproyecto_Traducción_en_español



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[Talk-ko] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

[weeklyteam]

매주 일어나는 OSM 소식을 종합한, 471번째 주간OSM이 발행되었습니다.

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/ko/archives/12277/

읽어 주셔서 감사합니다!
셨나요? 그냥 https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login 에 들어가서 오픈스트리트맵 계정으로 로그인하기만 하면 됩니다. 
기사 작성법 등의 정보는 여기를 참조하세요.
주간OSM이란? 
누가?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
어디서?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-ee] SviMik_import is back to life

[Jaak Laineste]

Your tools are really cool from technical perspective, but have you ever 
discussed it fully with the local community, so the stategy is agreed? I see 
link in the wiki page to some forum, but this is not a local community forum, 
it is Russian forum and it is even in a language what a lot of younger 
generation does not understand. It is just as absurd as if we would start to 
discuss in Estonian how to map say New York, agree some strategies and then 
assume that it is ok to garbage the map there. I really hope you don't consider 
Estonia somehow as a part of Russia.

My position is that in early years of OSM automatic imports of map for regions 
what you don’t know made some sense, but now they do more harm - create map 
data what is not maintained and not maintainable. Kind of digital garbage. Is 
is much better map less, more carefully, and avoid senseless copy of other map 
data.  Again, if someone needs Maaamet maps then they should take the latest 
version from them anytime. There is no need to copy if over to OSM at all. OSM 
is never meant to be collection of different geo datasets, even if they are 
really nice, it is human-created original global map database. 

Now if you decide to do it, then the editors must be identified. There is 
process on agreeing on legal contributor terms of edits, including right to 
take back the agreement. If you put all edits under your own name, then anyone 
can claim that you did not do the edits, and can request to just undo all of 
them. It looks like complete legal mess there from IP perspective. Also there 
is no way to ask comments/clarifications about specific edits. Therefore proper 
way to do it would be like with editors like ID, JOSM etc - every user is 
identified with OSM username, takes responsibility for his/her edits, so it is 
clear who to contact and who is responsible for this. 

I did several mass-imports in early OSM days myself, after discussions with 
local and international community.  They looked nice at once, but in longer 
term maybe it was even bad idea, there would be more motivated contributors, 
and the map would be more useful and interesting without them. There is still 
“dead” data what noone can update (from Corine for example), and I would be 
more happy if someone would create a tool to automatically delete it now. 

Jaak


> On 4 Aug 2019, at 14:26, SviMik  wrote:
> 
> For everyone who is new here, this is exactly the same import we did 5 years 
> ago, just updating it with new data.
> 
> The import is briefly described on the wiki page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maa-amet#Import
> 
> 1. The account for the imports is:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SviMik_import/history
> 
> 2. Why do you need streets? I'm just asking to confirm putting that address 
> on that outline. All you need to do is just make sure they match.
> 
> 
> Воскресенье,  4 августа 2019, 13:16 +03:00 от "Jaak Laineste" 
> :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> About first 2 tools:
>> 
>> 1. what they do as result exactly? add data to OSM database? If yes, then
>> under which username? I don’t see any auth here, is feels like  “anonymous
>> editor”, but OSM does not allow anonymous edits.
>> 
>> 2. about second one - map view is too much zoomed in, usually I don’t see any
>> streets to see the context, so it is really like filling random captchas
>> without any real check.
>> 
>> 
>> In general I miss here location filters, I want only work with my home
>> city/village what I know about. Generally “guerilla mapping” where you jump 
>> in
>> to a random place you really know nothing about is not generating good map
>> quality in long term at all, and this not suggested. If you map something,
>> then you will be responsible for the data and you need to be sure that it 
>> will
>> be also up-to-date in years to come. Especially if you do random map copy, in
>> principle here we just copy maa-amet map which does not give much value,
>> everyone could just use maaamet vector map data, this is openly shared also.
>> Remote mapping is suggested only for exceptional cases, e.g. in emergencies
>> (HOT actions) where you need quickly map and cannot go to the place. 
>> 
>> But the tools can be very useful -  I would use them for my known, usually
>> quite small specific regions like city or village. I can do ground work and
>> will maintain my edits later, and I  cannot do it if mapping area is whole
>> country.
>> 
>> 
>> Jaak
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Aug 2019, at 17:38, SviMik via Talk-ee 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And it needs your help!
>>> There's many new buildings that were built during the last 5 years. Let's
>> bring the map up to date.
>>> 
>>> - To import brand new buildings, visit this page:
>>> http://osm.svimik.com/btrace_verify.php
>>> Just click OK making sure there's no building in OSM already by looking at
>> the map in the middle.
>>> 
>>> - Some buildings were drawn by other users, but they didn't put an address.
>> Visit this page to help add addresses to 

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Federico Cortese]

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 5:06 PM Andrea Musuruane  wrote:
>
> In questo modo, se io cerco il civico, come faccio a sapere dove devo andare? 
> Troverà sia l'accesso che i POI e non si sarà in grado di distinguerli.

Capisco la tua perplessità, diciamo che di solito sono abbastanza
vicini da non creare problemi di routing.

> Se l'ingresso del POI e del civico coincidono, io metto le informazioni in un 
> unico nodo.

Sì anche io

> Se questo non è possibile, separo sempre il POI e il civico (evito sempre di 
> duplicare l'indirizzo).

Nemmeno a me piace duplicarlo, ma lo preferisco piuttosto che lasciare
il POI senza indirizzo.

> Non metto mai l'indirizzo sui building.

Nemmeno io, perchè nel caso di attività che coincide col perimetro di
un edificio metto uno o più nodi sul perimetro, per indicare i civici
degli ingressi.

Ciao,
Federico

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Re: [Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

[Mike N]

This was part of the iterative road improvement after TIGER as we began 
with major highways.I believe it came from the public domain 
information for the National Network 
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/infrastructure/national_network.htm .


On 8/4/2019 10:56 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:

I've found this undocumented tag, used 130,000 times, almost
exclusively in the USA.

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/hgv%3Anational_network#overview

Values: yes 86.56%   terminal_access 13.37%

I thought it might be imported from Tiger, but the usage has increased
gradually since 2012: 60k more ways have been tagged in that time.

How are these tags being used?

I'm guessing that hgv:national_network=yes means that a road is
designated for heavy trucks to use for long-distance trips.

Perhaps hgv:national_network=terminal_access means that heavy trucks
can only use a road if their destination is on it, or near it?

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ciao,

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:28 PM Marcello  wrote:

> Francesco, la questione è se ripetere o meno le informazioni
> dell'indirizzo sul nodo del POI, secondo me è scorretto mettere il nodo in
> prossimità dell'ingresso, in primo luogo perché non rappresenta la realtà,
> poi perché nel caso che il ristorante non ci sia più si cancella il nodo
> perdendo anche le informazioni dell'indirizzo.
>

Perché bisogna cancellare il nodo se un amenity non esiste più? Non mi
sembra così difficile eliminare (o aggiornare) solo le informazioni non
attuali.

Tra l'altro questa scusa che un utente distratto potrebbe cancellare il
nodo, vale anche per i building. Ho trovato edifici rimossi perché non
c'era più una feature.

Ciao,

Andrea
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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ciao,

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:34 AM Marcello  wrote:

> Andrea,
>
> quindi secondo te è sbagliato aggiungere l'informazione dell'indirizzo ad
> un POI? A me sembra utile averla, anche se è presente la stessa
> informazione sul nodo che identifica il civico dell'edificio. Se volessi
> fare un'estrazione dei ristoranti di una città anche con l'informazione
> dell'indirizzo, n. telefonico ecc. sarebbe immediato, altrimenti no.
>

Premetto che OSM non sono le Pagine Gialle (TM).

Se l'ingresso del POI e del civico coincidono, io metto le informazioni in
un unico nodo.

Se questo non è possibile, separo sempre il POI e il civico (evito sempre
di duplicare l'indirizzo).

Non metto mai l'indirizzo sui building.

Quello che chiedi è un tag tipo contact:addr:*

Ciao,

Andrea
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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ciao,

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 5:01 PM Federico Cortese 
wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 4:47 PM Martin Koppenhoefer
>  wrote:
> >
> > io lo metto sia al POI che all’ingresso.
>
> Anche io faccio così, addr:housenumber=* sia all'ingresso che a tutti i
> POI.
> Diversamente non si potrebbe capire l'indirizzo dei POI, visto che non
> abbiamo metodi semplici o condivisi per collegare un POI ad un civico
> mappato separatamente.
>

In questo modo, se io cerco il civico, come faccio a sapere dove devo
andare? Troverà sia l'accesso che i POI e non si sarà in grado di
distinguerli.

Ciao,

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Federico Cortese]

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 4:47 PM Martin Koppenhoefer
 wrote:
>
> io lo metto sia al POI che all’ingresso.

Anche io faccio così, addr:housenumber=* sia all'ingresso che a tutti i POI.
Diversamente non si potrebbe capire l'indirizzo dei POI, visto che non
abbiamo metodi semplici o condivisi per collegare un POI ad un civico
mappato separatamente.

Ciao,
Federico

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[Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I've found this undocumented tag, used 130,000 times, almost
exclusively in the USA.

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/hgv%3Anational_network#overview

Values: yes 86.56%   terminal_access 13.37%

I thought it might be imported from Tiger, but the usage has increased
gradually since 2012: 60k more ways have been tagged in that time.

How are these tags being used?

I'm guessing that hgv:national_network=yes means that a road is
designated for heavy trucks to use for long-distance trips.

Perhaps hgv:national_network=terminal_access means that heavy trucks
can only use a road if their destination is on it, or near it?

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 4. Aug 2019, at 11:17, Marcello  wrote:
> 
> Se si vuole fare i pignoli poi secondo quella
> regola non si dovrebbero mettere le informazioni dell'indirizzo su
> entrance=* (feature) ma a lato, dove è posizionata la targhetta del civico.


no

perché? Quello che si potrebbe fare è mappare sia la targhetta che l’ingresso, 
e in questo caso si avrebbe 2 volte lo stesso tag addr:housenumber.

Il civico è assegnato all’ingresso, non alla targa. La targa è un’indicazione 
dello civico, non è il civico stesso.

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 4. Aug 2019, at 09:30, scratera  wrote:
> 
> in via dei tigli n°6 ci stà il mio dentista
> ...ma in via dei tigli n°6 ci stà anche un mecico
> ...in via dei tigli n° 6 ci stà anche un avvocato
> ...che faccio metto l'indirizzo su tre poi o lo metto sull'ingresso in cui è
> posizionato?


io lo metto sia al POI che all’ingresso.



> ...io lo metto sul'ingresso in cui è posizionato...domani l'avocato...il
> medico o il mio dentista potrebbero chiudere e andare in pensione buon per
> loro e se lo metto sul poi lo perdo...l'ingresso finche l'edificio esiste
> quello resta...


come fai a capire l’indirizzo del dentista se non ha un civico all’oggetto 
OpenStreetMap? 

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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

[dcapillae]

Hi, Russ.

Thank you for commenting.

I don't know the pages naming conventions for other types of pages, as I 
told Andrew in a previous message. In place pages (United Kingdom, 
Spain, London, Madrid, etc.) it is not recommended to use the prefix 
"WikiProject".


I collaborate on a wikiproject aimed at improving the translation of the 
wiki. In that case, I think it makes sense to use the prefix 
"WikiProject". In the case of the "WikiProject Power networks", I don't 
know.


I will rename only the pages "WikiProject United Kingdom" then. I won't 
rename the "WikiProject Power networks" pages. If the contributors of 
the "WikiProject Power networks" want to rename it, they can do it later 
if they wish.


Thanks again for commenting.

Regards,
Daniel



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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

[Russ Garrett]

On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 12:32, dcapillae  wrote:
> WikiProject Power networks/Great Britain (redirect)
> --> United Kingdom/Power networks

FWIW, I'm responsible for this page and it has "Great Britain" rather
than "United Kingdom" in the title for a valid (pedantic) reason: the
power network in Northern Ireland is different and explicitly not
covered by that page.

I think I'd be happier renaming the whole "WikiProject Power Networks"
namespace to "Power Networks" and keeping the structure within that. I
can check if this is acceptable with the infrastructure mappers I know
(I suspect it will be).

Russ


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Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data

[Borbus]

Hello again,

I've finished integrating the VectorMap data all the way along North
Norfolk and now the Blackwater estuary too. I did a survey in Maldon before
I made changes near the town to make sure nothing was wildly different. It
looks like the new Maxar imagery is quite recent in that area and,
helpfully, was taken at low tide. I made minor adjustments to the VectorMap
data in places where the more recent imagery showed significant differences.

I wanted to fix up some other coastal areas I'm familiar with, such as
around Folkestone and Dover, but these areas consist of features other than
beaches and mud flats that are less clear to me how to map (like "beaches"
consisting of large rocks from the cliffs).

There has been a change merged into osm-carto which will, in my opinion,
degrade the rendering of many of these tidal areas. You can see the change
here, along with my concerns at the bottom (I am georgek):
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3707

Doing this work, and seeing the above changes to osm-carto got me thinking
that the time is ripe to sort out how we do water in OSM. There are
fundamentally two concerns which are currently conflated in OSM:
* The water area, ie. "you will not be dry if you try to stand here",
* The water boundary, which could be a river/sea bank, a building, a mean
high water level, and maybe other things.

The area and the boundary are both important for different reasons and
convey very different information. At the moment we handle boundaries very
poorly in OSM. This makes actually rendering the boundary very difficult,
because it will actually cross water areas in at least two cases: where
rivers meet oceans, and where river areas join together.

If these were all done using multipolygons we could separate the concerns
completely. So I propose to do this: map areas as multipolygons and
boundaries by ways which define multipolygons.

Water boundaries could be any of:
* natural=coastline, this should roughly correspond to the legal boundaries
of the country, ie. the coastline is the edge of the country,
* natural=riverbank, for rivers, usually these are managed separately from
sea banks, (we can't use the unfortunately named waterway=riverbank,
because that actually defines a water area, not a river bank),
* natural=shore, for lakes and anything else?
* anonymous ways, for cases where the bank is not very significant, this
can just be mapped as a normal polygon, for example a pond,

These boundaries can coincide with orthogonal tidal features which I also
propose:
* tidal:mean_high_water_spring=yes,
* tidal:mean_low_water_spring=yes,
* tidal:... for other levels of interest like astronomical low (for
nautical charts),

Note that these can exist where no bank is present, e.g. on beaches.

These boundaries can also contain many other useful pieces of information
such as: material of bank, man made or natural, mooring, ownership,
management and probably many more things.

It could be quite possible to have a way in which all of the following
features coincide:
* natural=coastline,
* tidal:mean_high_water_spring=yes,
* tidal:mean_low_water_spring=yes,
* man_made=sea_bank,
* material=concrete,
* barrier=wall,
* mooring=private,

It's also quite possible to have a completely distinct seabank, high water
level and low water level, e.g. in areas of reclaimed land where a man made
sea bank is a flood defence and is well above mean high water level.

Sorry for such a long post. I would like to identify any problems with what
I'm thinking quickly before I proceed to make proposals for these on the
wiki. So if I could ask people to just give a rough thumbs up or thumbs
down to this kind of approach I would be grateful.

Thanks, and happy mapping,

Borbus.
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Re: [Talk-dk] OSM Denmark logo

[Jørgen Elgaard Larsen]

dcapillae wrote:
I didn't find any OSM Denmark logo on the wiki, so I recreated one [2]. 


Wow. Thank you :-)


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Re: [Talk-GB] Displaced nodes

[Simon Poole]

I believe the last errant changeset was just reverted.

Am 04.08.2019 um 11:37 schrieb Simon Poole:
> Seems as if the culprit is reverting the changesets themselves (not
> quite done as I write this). I do think a mandatory debrief on how they
> managed to do this without noticing is clearly in order.
>
> Nobody moves > 100'000 nodes and then uploads them without tons of
> indications that something is wrong.
>
> Simon
>
> Am 04.08.2019 um 08:32 schrieb Roland Olbricht:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> there has been a couple of probably accidential movements of thousands
>> of nodes off central London.
>>
>> The changesets in question are most likely
>>
>> 72980739
>> 72980741
>> 72980743
>> 72980748
>> 72980751
>> 72980758
>> 72980760
>> 72980761
>> 72980762
>> 72980765
>> 72980767
>>
>> I'm attempting to revert them right now. As JOSM is surpringly slow on
>> the task, I'm happy about any help.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Roland
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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

[dcapillae]

Hi,

I'd just rename these pages:

WikiProject United Kingdom
--> United Kingdom

WikiProject United Kingdom/Parcel Lockers
--> United Kingdom/Parcel Lockers

WikiProject United Kingdom Sustrans Artwork
--> United Kingdom/Sustrans Artwork

And in response to Andrew's request:

WikiProject Power networks/Great Britain (redirect)
--> United Kingdom/Power networks

WikiProject Power networks/United Kingdom (redirect)
--> United Kingdom/Power networks

I'll wait a couple of days in case anyone disagrees. It's really a minor 
change, it doesn't matter much. Just remove the prefix "WikiProject" 
from the pages related to the UK mapping project. That's all.


I will take the opportunity to add the category [[Category:United 
Kingdom]] to pages which are not yet categorized and are related to 
United Kingdom.


Thank you for your collaboration. Greetings from Spain.

Regards,
Daniel

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[scratera]

...se si guarda tag info
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/room#overview



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[Talk-GB] OSMUK: Where should we focus our 2019/20 strategy?

[Jez Nicholson]

Hello Mappers,

The first OSMUK board meeting for 2019/20 season is tomorrow (Mon 5
August). We will mostly be discussing what we plan to do with this year.
You have the opportunity to tell us what you think on a dot poll at
https://www.loomio.org/p/965t2PXE the poll also has a freeform comment and
you can add options...but hurry.

Regards,
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Re: [Talk-ee] SviMik_import is back to life

[Jaak Laineste]

Hi,

About first 2 tools:

1. what they do as result exactly? add data to OSM database? If yes, then under 
which username? I don’t see any auth here, is feels like  “anonymous editor”, 
but OSM does not allow anonymous edits.

2. about second one - map view is too much zoomed in, usually I don’t see any 
streets to see the context, so it is really like filling random captchas 
without any real check.


In general I miss here location filters, I want only work with my home 
city/village what I know about. Generally “guerilla mapping” where you jump in 
to a random place you really know nothing about is not generating good map 
quality in long term at all, and this not suggested. If you map something, then 
you will be responsible for the data and you need to be sure that it will be 
also up-to-date in years to come. Especially if you do random map copy, in 
principle here we just copy maa-amet map which does not give much value, 
everyone could just use maaamet vector map data, this is openly shared also. 
Remote mapping is suggested only for exceptional cases, e.g. in emergencies 
(HOT actions) where you need quickly map and cannot go to the place. 

But the tools can be very useful -  I would use them for my known, usually 
quite small specific regions like city or village. I can do ground work and 
will maintain my edits later, and I  cannot do it if mapping area is whole 
country.


Jaak
  
 


> On 3 Aug 2019, at 17:38, SviMik via Talk-ee  wrote:
> 
> And it needs your help!
> There's many new buildings that were built during the last 5 years. Let's 
> bring the map up to date.
> 
> - To import brand new buildings, visit this page:
> http://osm.svimik.com/btrace_verify.php
> Just click OK making sure there's no building in OSM already by looking at 
> the map in the middle.
> 
> - Some buildings were drawn by other users, but they didn't put an address. 
> Visit this page to help add addresses to existing buildings:
> http://osm.svimik.com/xgis2osm.php?lang=en
> Just enter the house numbers from the pictures like a captcha solving.
> 
> - Like to map roads? The 'Missing roads' validator is back to life too!
> http://osm.svimik.com/noroad.php
> It shows all the places where a building exists, but there's no roads around 
> to get there.
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Re: [Talk-GB] Displaced nodes

[Simon Poole]

Seems as if the culprit is reverting the changesets themselves (not
quite done as I write this). I do think a mandatory debrief on how they
managed to do this without noticing is clearly in order.

Nobody moves > 100'000 nodes and then uploads them without tons of
indications that something is wrong.

Simon

Am 04.08.2019 um 08:32 schrieb Roland Olbricht:
> Dear all,
>
> there has been a couple of probably accidential movements of thousands
> of nodes off central London.
>
> The changesets in question are most likely
>
> 72980739
> 72980741
> 72980743
> 72980748
> 72980751
> 72980758
> 72980760
> 72980761
> 72980762
> 72980765
> 72980767
>
> I'm attempting to revert them right now. As JOSM is surpringly slow on
> the task, I'm happy about any help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Roland
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Re: [talk-cz] Potok nepotok

[xkomc...@centrum.cz]

ještě lépe:

tunnel=culvert

On 04. 08. 19 9:43, Miroslav Suchy wrote:

Dne 03. 08. 19 v 16:35 Václav Kroupar napsal(a):

Narazil jsem na potok 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81491610#map=15/50.4770/13.4319 , který 
evidentně minimálně od
Přivaděče do Velkého otvického rybníka (Bandy) nevede po povrchu. Dle všeho to 
je technické potrubí pro  převod vody z
Přivaděče do Bandy. V Přivaděči je tomto místě vpusť a na Bandě je u hráze 
výtok. Dál mezi rybníky může takto
pokračovat. Těžko to zkontroluji - bažiny a ploty.
Předem díky za radu, jak to opravit, abych nerozbil něco jiného. Evidentně se 
do mapy dostal importem.


To potrubi pod zemi otagovat takto:
tunnel=yes
waterway=canal

pr:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/286559395#map=14/47.1398/12.5843

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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Marcello]

Il 03/08/19 17:31, scratera ha scritto:
> ...meglio fare a mio giudizio
> indoor=room
> room=amenity room=shoproom=...
> amenity=restauran shop=.. a secondo di cosa ci si trova dentro
> name=...
> level=
> ...e sull'ingresso
> addr:city=
> addr:country=IT
> addr:housenumber=
> addr:postcode=
> addr:street=
> door=yes
> entrance=yes
> indoor=door
> level=0
> ...e alla fine viene renderizzato così
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/709880992
> https://openlevelup.net/?l=0#20/45.89092/11.04140
> https://demo.f4map.com/#lat=45.8907182=11.0396211=19=78.281=-94.825
>
>
>
>
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>
>
Non mi sono mai cimentato con l'indoor mapping, comunque guardando la
pagina wiki [1] c'è scritto che room=shop e room=restaurant e altre
chiavi che fanno riferimento anche alla categoria amenity sono da evitare.

Se si considera la mappatura tradizionale guardando alcune pagine wiki,
[2] e [3] per esempio, mi sembra che l'etichetta building=* non sempre
sia utilizzata rispettando la regola "One feature One OSM element", anzi
sembra utilizzata come una caratteristica dell'elemento e non come una
feature a se stante. Se si vuole fare i pignoli poi secondo quella
regola non si dovrebbero mettere le informazioni dell'indirizzo su
entrance=* (feature) ma a lato, dove è posizionata la targhetta del civico.

Per concludere se si guarda la pagina wiki di addr:* [4] riporta come
esempio l'aggiunta dell'indirizzo ad amenity=restaurant, quindi mi
sembra prevista la possibilità che il POI possa coincidere con il
building e che ci possa essere l'indirizzo come informazione aggiuntiva
del POI, non rappresentante la posizione del civico, che andrebbe
aggiunta su un nodo separato.

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:room
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Castle
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dplace_of_worship
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Key:addr

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[Talk-ca] hebdoOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

[theweekly . osm]

Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 471 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12277/

Bonne lecture !

Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note 
hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur 
https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus 
sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

hebdoOSM ? 
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[Talk-es] semanarioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Hola, el semanario Nº 471, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12277/

¡Disfruta!

¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser 
miembro? Simplemente ingresa a https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login con tu 
cuenta de OSM. Lee más sobre cómo escribir una publicación aquí: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

semanarioOSM? 
¿Dónde?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
¿Quién?: 
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[Talk-br] semanárioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Bom dia,

O semanárioOSM Nº 471, o resumo de tudo o que acontece no mundo OpenStreetMap, 
está publicado *em português* : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/pb/archives/12277/

Aproveite!

Você sabia que também pode enviar mensagens para o OSM semanal/semanárioOSMſ 
sem ser membro? Basta fazer login em https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login com 
sua conta OSM e usar a conta de convidado. Leia mais sobre como escrever um 
post aqui: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

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[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 471 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12277/

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[Talk-pt] semanárioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Bom dia,

O semanárioOSM Nº 471, o resumo de tudo o que acontece no mundo OpenStreetMap, 
está publicado *em português* : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/pb/archives/12277/

Aproveite!

Você sabia que também pode enviar mensagens para o OSM semanal/semanárioOSMſ 
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sua conta OSM e usar a conta de convidado. Leia mais sobre como escrever um 
post aqui: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm

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[Talk-africa] hebdoOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 471 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
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http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12277/

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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

[weeklyteam]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12277/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

weeklyOSM? 
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[Talk-cl] semanarioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Hola, el semanario Nº 471, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12277/

¡Disfruta!

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[Talk-ht] hebdoOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 471 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12277/

Bonne lecture !

Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note 
hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur 
https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus 
sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: 
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[OSM-co] semanarioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 471, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12277/

¡Disfruta!

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[Talk-cu] semanarioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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Hola, el semanario Nº 471, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12277/

¡Disfruta!

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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12277/

Enjoy! 

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[OSM-talk-ie] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12277/

Enjoy! 

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[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12277/

Enjoy! 

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[talk-latam] semanarioOSM Nº 471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 471, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12277/

¡Disfruta!

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miembro? Simplemente ingresa a https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login con tu 
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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
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[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
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Enjoy! 

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[Talk-africa] weeklyOSM #471 2019-07-23-2019-07-29

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 471,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12277/

Enjoy! 

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Re: [talk-cz] Potok nepotok

[Miroslav Suchy]

Dne 03. 08. 19 v 16:35 Václav Kroupar napsal(a):
> Narazil jsem na potok 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/81491610#map=15/50.4770/13.4319 , který 
> evidentně minimálně od
> Přivaděče do Velkého otvického rybníka (Bandy) nevede po povrchu. Dle všeho 
> to je technické potrubí pro  převod vody z
> Přivaděče do Bandy. V Přivaděči je tomto místě vpusť a na Bandě je u hráze 
> výtok. Dál mezi rybníky může takto
> pokračovat. Těžko to zkontroluji - bažiny a ploty.
> Předem díky za radu, jak to opravit, abych nerozbil něco jiného. Evidentně se 
> do mapy dostal importem.
> 

To potrubi pod zemi otagovat takto:
tunnel=yes
waterway=canal

pr:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/286559395#map=14/47.1398/12.5843

Mirek

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Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione

[Andreas Lattmann]

Grazie Stefano.
Non è la prima volta che mi chiedono "tu che ruolo occupi in OSM". 
Se dovessero collaborare quelli della Setetrack non sarebbe male 

Andreas


Il 3 agosto 2019 23:27:20 CEST, Stefano  ha scritto:
>Responsabili nel senso di persone pagate come project manager wmi non
>ce ne
>sono.
>Se c'è bisogno aggiungimi in copia.
>Ciao
>
>On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, 22:29 Andreas Lattmann, 
>wrote:
>
>> Segnalo questa pagina [1].
>> Non può scrivere una mail il responsabile di OSM in Wikimedia Italia?
>> Perché mi è stato chiesto da Setetrack che ruolo ricoprissi in OSM,
>che
>> voleva un contatto con OSM ed eventualmente collaborare.
>>
>> Gli ho risposto che sono un semplice volontario e di iscriversi qui,
>poi
>> non ho più avuto notizie e la corretta attribuzione non è stata data.
>
>>
>> [1]
>>
>https://livegps.setetrack.it/Home/IndexMapset?mapset=mareamaro=IwAR0Fe1kuc69AHcCgrmeDS5jV7XgeiCZ_fP9Y6KflT9LcfO5_Dgbq47jMdTM#
>>
>> Andreas
>> --
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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[scratera]

in via dei tigli n°6 ci stà il mio dentista
...ma in via dei tigli n°6 ci stà anche un mecico
...in via dei tigli n° 6 ci stà anche un avvocato
...che faccio metto l'indirizzo su tre poi o lo metto sull'ingresso in cui è
posizionato?
...io lo metto sul'ingresso in cui è posizionato...domani l'avocato...il
medico o il mio dentista potrebbero chiudere e andare in pensione buon per
loro e se lo metto sul poi lo perdo...l'ingresso finche l'edificio esiste
quello resta...



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Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 3. Aug 2019, at 11:33, Marcello  wrote:
> 
> Andrea,
> 
> quindi secondo te è sbagliato aggiungere l'informazione dell'indirizzo ad un 
> POI?
> 


questa è anche la mia domanda a Andrea.

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[Talk-GB] Displaced nodes

[Roland Olbricht]

Dear all,

there has been a couple of probably accidential movements of thousands
of nodes off central London.

The changesets in question are most likely

72980739
72980741
72980743
72980748
72980751
72980758
72980760
72980761
72980762
72980765
72980767

I'm attempting to revert them right now. As JOSM is surpringly slow on
the task, I'm happy about any help.

Best regards,

Roland

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