).
Ed
From: Stuart Reynolds [mailto:stu...@travelinesoutheast.org.uk]
Sent: 02 April 2015 15:31
To: Ed Loach
Cc: talk-gb OSM List E-mail
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Any mappers in Colchester who can help map a
road?
Ed, hi
Thanks. For info, Essex County Council have told me
It isn’t open yet (at least when I last checked) – I’ve left the A12
where the park and ride is being built to the north of J28 and
headed south to see if it was open. I’ve made a note where I amended
the section to the south that was open (and still roadworks) when I
last drove through:
Maarten wrote:
The only response from www and api I get is Incomplete response
received from application. Is it only my or is OSM down?
Not just you.
Ed
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Gianfranco asked:
What if we ask not only to publish as open access the resulting work but also
to give back to the community all raw material?
Is this another survey?
Was my question above?
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I’ve not read the whole thread but there was a tagging list
discussion in 2010 which I found linked from
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-09-13#Depo
ts_and_Garages
Ed
From: Antje (OpenStreetMap) [mailto:kurias...@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 February 2015 16:46
To:
On 11 Feb 2015 17:53, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote:
Am 11.02.2015 um 17:51 schrieb Mikel Maron:
Already a great piece.
+1
As a suggestion for improvement:
I'd love to have a clear statment in the way that somebody new in the
project should at least inform himself about
On 28/01/2015 01:13, Neil Matthews wrote:
Do we need an OSM disclaimer
The copyright page does include:
Inclusion of data in OpenStreetMap does not imply that the original data
provider endorses OpenStreetMap, provides any warranty, or accepts any
liability.
Another point in favour of the two pubs theory is searching for %Louise% at
WhatPub.com and making sure filters for open/real ale available etc are cleared:
http://whatpub.com/search?q=%25Louise%25t=ftp=1alt=
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Brian wrote:
I've not changed any boundary WAYS as that is a massive job. I think that we
really don't need the ways any longer as the relations will get rendered, but
that's another discussion entirely and a tedious job to do. But perhaps we'd
better do it to avoid confusing software and
I've been looking at Tipton since it got a mention in #osm-gb IRC
channel for a note being added near Staffordshire.
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=114798
Nominatim is using old county place nodes which pre-date the
boundary relations to determine the county. Some
I would say you often can’t tell the difference on the ground either if you’re
talking unclassified/residential, except for the presence of residences. But
where are you talking about making them darker? You don’t say in your question,
then talk about two editors who have their own internal
Perhaps just posting Overpass links and locals manually making the changes
would be better? I compared the Overpass before and after links only to find
that the nearest item on the first link is missing on the second as the
Sainsbury(')s is missing a shop tag. And now it also misses the
Finding small problems like this does have an advantage, but it looks
like fixing them mechanically is actually missing the opportunity to
improve the map in other ways at the same time.
As it happens, the local Sainsbury's that I just updated also made me realise
that there is now aerial
If I understand correctly we are talking about combining 3 similar wiki
pages into 1, not changing any tagging, in which case it makes sense. In my
opinion the wiki needs more how to tag instructions (e.g. links to videos
showing how in basic mode in most popular editors) as well as the existing
I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes .
This is what I started using after first using OsmAnd and seeing lane hints on
some roads, and wondering how it knew. I started adding them elsewhere (not
many so far).
As
Steve asked:
Has this service been discontinued? Or is there just a temporary problem
with it?
According to the wiki, faffy has a problem
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Platform_Status
I believe os.openstreetmap.org was temporarily pointed elsewhere (and still is).
Ed
So the question is - what makes you think that 'Footwear' is part of
the name, rather than a description of the products they sell?
How about their about page?
http://www.brantano.co.uk/en-gb/desktop/about-us
Brantano Footwear was established in the UK in 1998
Ed
Are there still objections against Brantano?
Yes. It says Brantano Footwear as the name on the sign on at least the two
nearest stores to me. I have no objections to brand or operator being Brantano,
but not the name field.
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In the late 70s, early 80s when ADSA arrived as the new kid on the
block, everyone seemed to know it was short for Associated Dairies,
but
that has probably long since been forgotten.
Regarding ASDA, I was following one of their delivery vans yesterday and
noticed all occurrences of their
On 1 November 2014 01:06, Lester Caine mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk
les...@lsces.co.uk
wrote:
Brantano (UK) Limited shops are all branded 'Brantano Footwear'
that is
their shop 'Logo'
Matthijs:
We currently have 116 times Brantano and 12 times Brantano
Footwear in
the UK. I
Steve wrote:
imagine what Simon could achieve
by spending that time and energy on making the world better.
What, like
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/history
or
https://help.openstreetmap.org/users/2053/simonpoole/recent/
or
https://code.google.com/p/osmeditor4android/source/list
The more specific access tags take priority over the more general,
so in your example access=no precludes all traffic, but bus=yes and
psv=yes means buses and taxis are allowed.
See
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Transport_mode_restric
tions
I am surprised there is no
It has been over a year now since I first mentioned
http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/LloydsTSB/
here, and there are still lots of branches that haven't been
remapped, so I thought I'd mention it again.
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Example? Perhaps use wikidata for finding translations of OSM objects'
names where they don't have an on the ground name in that language to map
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Dan wrote:
addr:flats = 1-5;The Garden Flat;The Penthouse
This one is news to me. It seems a bit quirky to use
addr:flats=3 to
represent Flat 3 but if it's used then I'll use it. Do yall use
it?
(I think I've used addr:unit before, but never been sure)
After previous discussions I've already changed the C road references that
I mapped (from roadworks signs) to official_ref, so your suggestion seems
sensible. I feel ref should be reserved for (permanently?) signposted
references.
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Since these notes are automatically generated there's no on you
could
ask for clarifications, which is needed for all issues.
Are we still talking Incorrect speed limit? What clarification
does that need? I used to get a lot of similar reports from
Skobbler, so mapped all the local speed
Since English has non-phonetic spelling (and some placenames are
particularly non-phonetic) there's no solid base for automatic
transliteration to something meaningful in another script, so I
think
it's reasonable to put the Ukrainian spelling in explicitly, for
places for which such a
I downloaded latest naptan data the other day and used qgis to filter
stops.csv to just those in Tendring, or on roads that run along the border,
to give me something more manageable to look at. 995 stops before any other
filtering. I've not finished verifying imported stops after an initial
burst
Is anybody still using the Kosmos software?
Your question prompted me to run Kosmos, as I still have it installed as well
as Maperitive and I wasn't sure why. It seems I haven't yet upgraded the rules
I used to create the Beer Festival map I did for station to venue which uses
Is anybody still using the Kosmos software?
It seems I had updated at least the mono version of the rules already, so have
now deleted all my Kosmos rules from the wiki.
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Michael wrote:
This reminds me to the good old times in OSM. Can anybody
remember
that the sand bunkers on some golf courses had beeen tagged as
natural
= beach to get them rendered? :-(
Not everything was good in good old times...
You're trolling, yes? golf=bunker still isn't rendered,
It seems we have this one:
http://www.sangosands.com/restaurant-and-bar-with-menues.html
mapped solely as a restaurant.
http://osm.org/go/e6WYUKyzk--?m=
Perhaps less than 34 miles?
Ed
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Tom wrote:
In many other areas of inner London, particularly residential (e.g.
http://binged.it/1iByiPy),
the typologies and shapes are pretty easy to understand from aerial imagery
so you
can accurately guess individual buildings.
Perhaps it is just me, but I don’t think residential
There is no might about it. The wiki at least is explicit:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity
But has also had the meaning pretty much redefined in 2013 from how
I understood it to be before then.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:place%3Dcityold
id=812669
I checked a couple of changesets that were local enough to have
appeared in one of the RSS feeds of activity in my local area (April
2013). In those two changesets as far as I could make out the only
changes were additional nodes in the ways (A12 and adjacent).
Checking back to late 2011 they
Clifford Snow wrote:
Should this section be restated in the OSM wiki under boundaries?
Perhaps better to link to the OSMF document?
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Seems to be a Bing issue. North and East Wolverhampton seem OK, but
this is the corner of the problem area (as seen in Potlatch 2):
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2#map=17/52.58943/-
2.10928
From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com]
Sent: 29 January 2014 11:04
To:
With similar issues at Bing
http://binged.it/1k6dByI
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Andy asked:
I'm attempting to add an address which has the following format:
Building
Retail Park
Road
Place
County
Post Code
While I'm able to match most parts of the address to their
corresponding addr:* tags the Retail Park line has me stumped.
Does
anybody have any suggestions
Added, though didn’t know quite what to do about URLs – the ones I
included show the articles are available as PDFs to subscribers
while it is the current issue, but they’ll probably need updating
when the next issue comes out.
Ed
From: Gregory [mailto:nomoregra...@googlemail.com]
Sent:
wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Statistics has links to which users are
on the categories but don't think their is a single point of contact. I'd
probably recommend asking in #osm first of all to see who is around via
irc.openstreetmap.org if you don't have a client already.
On 18 Jan 2014
Just a small update, posted on my blog about the progress:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary
I thought OSB wasn't allowing new bug reports? There seem to be a
few from Géovélo, such as
http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=19lat=47.12282lon=-1.63
087layers=B0T
opened
Forwarded from osm-talk after reading the diary entry:
[GB] 2517
Very little progress. (70 Bugs fixed). Can anyone promote it to GB
mappers?
The bugs are distributed over the whole country.
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/Phase_Out
Ed
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From:
Lester wrote:
The other area though is the fact that for many years we have been
(aside: we who?)
using the
embedded map as a replacement for Google and I HOPE we still
want to encourage
that use? But the shift to being 'mapping' orientated as it odds
with
that
usage? Now that
Lester replied:
Well if I am the only person using embedded maps then why provide
them?
Sorry, when you used we I didn't know who you were speaking about.
I've just been working through all the combinations again to
document things
myself. Yesterday when I grabbed an iframe, the large map
I guess e-businesses have a legitime interest in being found on a
bitcoin accepting businesses directory, but not necessarily on
being
shown on a bitcoin map.
One I edited recently (probably - is there any way of telling for
sure if the edit has come via coinmap) was a user at Discogs who had
Lester asked:
I
ask again - what is 'export' intended to do?
Have you tried it? I just have and it lets me select an area then
exports that area as OSM .osm XML format. I'm guessing there are
similar limits to downloading areas as there are in JOSM but haven't
tried it (I zoomed in on a single
There was an option to download to PDF and PNG, which was nice so
you
could make a printed map immediately. Why has that been
removed?
It moved to the Share button when that was added in early August.
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Lester:
MOST other projects maintain the older style of site in parallel
with
such a
major overhaul.
Name one. I can probably name more that don't. Facebook for example
is always adding changes.
Unless you mean during the test phase, like we had the new site
running on the redesign url
Andy wrote:
I miss the slider for zooming in and out. Having to make multiple
clicks (on the - icon for zooming out) is an inconvenient
kludge.
Again, this isn't a new change. You do know about shift-click the +
or - to go three zoom levels a time?
Ed
Martin wrote:
the wiki was linked directly. Our wiki is the principal (loosely)
structured key about osm, created by the community. Its starting
page is a good entry if you want to get serious, and I am sure
also
longtime contributors go there rather often.
I think it is better on the Help
Lester:
The about page is VERY short on help to get to other material (
but I
do not
object to advertising sponsors on that page ), and I probably need
to
try the
site as a cold user to se if registering a new account is any more
helpful, but
trying to establish what is needed to help
Maybe it would be an idea to set up some kind of page in which
we
track in
which parts of Birmingham the shops still need to be surveyed?
As someone who now only visits the West Midlands irregularly, you
don't just need to track where still needs to be surveyed. You need
a way of tracking
Christian Quest wrote:
No more links to:
- the wiki
- the copyright/licence stuff
- help.osm.org
André has already mentioned two of these, and the copyright/licence
page is linked both from the attribution on the map and from the
About page.
Ed
Matthijs asked:
snip
The question is now, which of these should we use for the name
tag?
snip
Please let me know what you think.
For name, use whatever is on the bus stop sign. So in this example:
http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/65797/article_346b19a79c148b9f
Is the FHRS ref/id printed on each venues window
sticker/certificate? Or do we have to look up the venue in an open
database to get the id? Tendring has only just decided to join the
scheme so it isn't something I've yet paid any attention to when out
of the area to see, so really I'm asking for
ael wrote:
I have a road with a maxweight (7.5t) sign at one end but none at
the
other end. So I take it that this means that vehicles over this
weight
may not enter from that end.
I have used relation tagged with
type=restriction:maxweight
maxweight = 7.5
restriction = no_entry
Colin wrote:
I assume that should be in lower case, as per
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:iso3166-2
It seems you can take your pick...
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=3166
Perhaps a secondary task could be making usage consistent ;)
Ed
As you might all know, Lloyds TSB split to become Lloyds Bank and
TSB a couple of weeks ago. To help find those that still need
remapping I had a quick play and came up with
http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/LloydsTSB/
I've not added a key, but used logos I found off the internet (with
a bit of a
Matt wrote:
This looks really useful, thanks. It might also be worth checking the
'operator' tag as well as many banks have that tagged rather (or
maybe
as well as) than the name
All suggestions greatfully received. If you refresh now, an operator starting
Lloyds TSB will trump whatever is
Dan wrote:
Handy tool, thanks. It might be good to limit it to items tagged amenity=bank
and amenity=atm though, as I've spotted some Lloyds pharmacies showing
up here in southeast London as well as the banks.
I could, but it is only showing those as Pharmacy is missing out of the name
Lester wrote:
It would be MUCH safer if you had to pick the boundary to select
it!
But much harder to use for areas that share the boundary ways with
an adjacent area. You'd have to resort to the / stuff that Potlatch
uses or middle-click for JOSM (or whatever).
New mappers are likely to make
According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k
house
numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many
houses they
should be awarded a prize!
While I'm surprised that my entry is as high as it is, it is
entirely possible that I've added almost 40,000 house numbers
Is there some better tagging we can do in OSM to lessen the
visibility
of districts and regions, and get the display to a useful town or
village and county. Or is this a problem of the routers?
I think it is because different admin levels have different
significance (in addresses) in different
Forwarded to see if my bounce issues have been resolved.
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From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk]
Sent: 12 December 2012 09:02
To: 'Donald Noble'; 'talk-gb@openstreetmap.org'
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN Bus Stops
Donald asked:
Any pointers much appreciated.
I’ve
It's caused by this changeset:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10450293
Example change:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/8011778/history
I suspect that the admin_level=2 boundary shouldn't stop at the
water's
edge in this case.
There is another admin level 2
Henning asked:
Which of above tags are obsolete and should be removed after
checking the object
against aerial image and gps-tracks?
JOSM already discards (some) obsolete Tiger tags:
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7915
And a similar patch
https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4552 was
I'd rather deprecate platform for busses if anything.
One of the problems with the bus stop tag, and hoping I don't reopen
old arguments, is that due to a mistranslation in the wiki in the
dim and distant past many people have tagged bus stops as nodes on
the way where the bus stops, when they
I think this would show on the small components routing layer at
OSRM
http://map.project-osrm.org/
Ed
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From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Sent: 12 November 2012 10:28
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Tool to detect incorrect oneways?
I've not looked at OS Strategi, but the Natural England datasets are
now OGL licenced and they contain the national park boundaries, and
I think are better resolution.
http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/publications/data/default.aspx
Ed
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From: Robert Norris
Frederik wrote:
in the coming years, the OSMF will re-work their articles of
association which are currently very old fashioned and geared more
towards a British manufacturing firm than towards an international
mass membership nonprofit (FSVO mass).
I believe OSMF is currently
Matt wrote:
I actually do that in reverse. I first trace all the houses in an
area
from Bing and then when I'm out surveying (using either a printed
map
or tablet) I'll use those outlines to match against reality.
Either
way, I'm very much into adding addressing information these days
and
Adam wrote:
Can anyone give me any pointers about importing house shapes
into OSM?
They were probably traced by hand from Bing imagery rather than
imported.
I've added a few
buildings over the years, but they end up being slightly wobbly,
which is far from ideal. I have a huge preference
Peter wrote:
Garmin suggested retail price £229.99
Amazon had it at £178 until yesterday
today..
Garmin eTrex 30 Outdoor Handheld GPS Unit £157.49
Thanks Peter. I've been humming and hahing (however it is spelled)
for ages about whether to get one or not. So I now have, via the
Amazon link
Tom, I’m guessing when you save from QGIS you are also reprojecting?
Ed
From: Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net]
Sent: 21 September 2012 12:37
To: Lester Caine
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Highlighting an area ...
On 21 September 2012 12:20, Lester Caine
Looks like it has been done.
http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Osm:Export.start.export_detai
ls/dediff=4223004oldid=1509470rcid=curid=1065143
Short: http://is.gd/vzKO8e
Ed
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Chatting on IRC yesterday for suitable updated attribution text for
my Maperitive rendered images, the following was suggested as
sufficient:
© OSM contributors, osm.org/copyright
was suggested as sufficient. My first attempt showed different
attributions for the web map background (cc by-sa)
Well, I'm not an expert, but as when you upload a GPX track it gives you 4
options for visibility for each track, then that choice is effectively the
extent of how you licence that individual track for use by anyone (as well as
whatever licence the full database of points is released under). If
https://community.sagecrm.com/user_community/b/sage_crm_news/archive
/2012/08/28/sage-crm-mapping-component-7.1.aspx
(short http://is.gd/e6k5uD )
Excerpt:
Powered by OpenStreetMap, the free wiki world map, the component
allows you to browse your customer visually and see nearby amenities
such as
On 05/09/2012 11:13, Ed Loach wrote:
And:
Users need to have HTTP access to *.openstreetmap.org.
Steve asked:
Should we perhaps be concerned about that? Does this square with
our
tileserver usage policy?
I don't know. It is an optional component, and I don't know how many
Sage CRM
I’ve just downloaded this. It looks like it contains Registered
Office address which isn’t necessarily the same as the business
(trading) address – for example where I used to work in Pattingham
used to have a registered office in Dudley (the accountants address,
I understand), and having just
Looking at the FOI request:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/119687/response/296922/attach/
5/attachment.txt
Ed
From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 August 2012 11:37
To: 'Stuart Harrison'; talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re:
If I understand correctly, a grey checkbox in the history in JOSM
means
a non-agreeer to the CT. Those edits should be redacted, correct?
Grey means they signed up after the new CT were the only ones, so
automatically accepted rather than choosing to.
Ed
Blackadder asked the same question on irc earlier, and “I was
looking at cornwall when I made the bbox” was the reply. The NW
Europe box will cover it, I believe, but everywhere will get covered
sooner or later.
Ed
From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 July 2012 13:20
Steve wrote:
Interesting. I see that a number of redaction edits have been made
in
northern France, so maybe the mappers in those areas should be
made aware.
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2012-July/045439.ht
ml
Ed
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Piwik requires explicit consent as it's not an 'essential' cookie
Even session cookies are still a grey area!
http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_organisations/privacy_and_electronic_commu
nications/the_guide/cookies.aspx
mentions:
European data protection authorities opinion
In June 2012, European
We are
expecting to
begin on _Wednesday_ (11th July) assuming a couple of final setup
details are completed by then.
The bot will run with Ireland first of all, then the UK, then the
rest
of the world. Consequently please expect to see a few changes to
your
local area later this week.
Looking at the page on boundary=protected_area, perhaps class 7 is
the right one for Millennium Greens?
From
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area#Bac
kground
There are no protected areas for the United Kingdom in the WDPA
So I'd say probably not
Ed
It's just a vanilla potlatch instance, by the way. All the
merging
panels etc are built-in to the standard potlatch, there's no
special
code or branch or anything in the deployment that we're using
here.
I wondered if the created_by changeset tag value could be the same
as the name that
Rob replied:
From what I understand the cycleway:left=lane ( right) is the
correct way to tag
these. The choice of 'left'/'right' depends on which way the road
is drawn in OSM.
As you probably already know all roads (ways) have a direction
which can be found
by selecting the way and looking
Ooops. Wrong list, sorry.
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Are there any notes I'm missing about how to access and deal with
nodes in the DfT data? e.g.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edloach/7392860104/in/photostream
Ed
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Sent: 17 June 2012 12:44
To:
Also, I'm not up on cycleway lane tagging, and on a section where
there are lanes both sides, is cycleway:left=lane and
cycleway:right=lane correct, as per merge tool suggestions? Also,
the merge tool is showing a suggest of Lane with a capital letter,
which I think should be lower case.
Ed
One last comment for now.
When looking at a project page, such as:
http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/cnxc-snapshot/projects/78/
tagged_ways
It would be good to have a link to edit a relevant area, or failing
that at least a latitude/longitude so you can find the way. I've
followed the two
Rob wrote:
I don't see this. Right and Left tell you where the lane is, but
it does not
tell a user (or routing software) which direction you can ride in.
This
requires knowledge of which side of the road each country drives
on
(or forward/backward tags).
Ah, yes. I see your point.
I
Colin wrote:
However the boundary between England and Wales runs approximately
half-way between the
two islands. I haven't found a definitive statement of where the
border lies
The nodes that are part of the boundary way between the two islands
are tagged with a source and a note (and a ref),
I have
been doing quite a bit of work on them (in Kent, UK) recently and
the
changes are not showing up yet.
I don't know if it relates, but a lot of Kent boundaries seem to
have an inconsistent use of roles (some ways use them, some don't):
http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/boundaries/
Ed
Andrew:
Should a map of the whole world really have two images of
Oxford featured in
three weeks?
Tom:
If Oxford has two special things in it in 3 weeks, I don't see why
not.
+1
But I've noticed for the last couple of weeks that we've got to
Monday morning and there is no new image. If
2. I don't think you should continue to make mass edits under the
username WorstFixer because that implies that before you
fixed
things they were among the worst which has the potential to
offend people.
I've not been following what has and hasn't been done, or is
proposed, but the username
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