Re: [talk-ph] bridges and roads oftentimes have different names

2011-01-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
I tag bridge names differently. The way primarily represents a road, that just happens to pass over a bridge. So the name=* tag should contain the name of the road. Currently, the only way we can tell that multiple end-to-end ways belong to the same road (without using relations) is if they have

Re: [talk-ph] San Juan, Batangas mapping

2011-01-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
HI Eric, Yes this is late. :-p Anyway, I also use Trekbuddy on my SE W760i phone. However, I don't actually use any app for collecting or inputting POIs and waypoints. I primarily use Trekbuddy to collect tracks and list down POIs on a notebook. It's faster to write things down than to mess

Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping

2011-01-18 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hello Frank, Which OSM-based GPS map are you using? There are several of them in existence. For Davao, you can use the OSMPH Garmin map located here: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin This contains only data for the Philippines and so would be manageable. You only just need to switch

Re: [talk-ph] 2011 Mapping party suggestions

2011-01-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Coincidence! I was actually thinking about possible mapping parties for 2011 earlier this day. Below is what I came up with. I think we can do a mapping party every two months: 4 in Metro Manila and 2 out of town. February: QC Scout Area http://osm.org/go/4zhTArYA-- (basically the areas covered

Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))

2011-01-16 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
/Philippines/GPStogo_program On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Have fun tomorrow, guys (or is it only maning so far)! Please give a report on the event. :-) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: GK

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of construction sites by Mapnik

2011-01-06 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
+1 The same thing goes for landuse=brownfield (and also greenfield, I think). On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, I think the rendering of construction sites (landuse=construction / brownfield) could be a little more subdued in color. As it is they

Re: [talk-ph] ph data stats 20101125

2011-01-04 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
% of total highways according to the *revised* CIA factbook. Interesting for me is the increase of users and the decrease of total nodes contributions from the top 20 users. Caveat: Version and data history were not analyzed. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

Re: [talk-ph] ph data stats 20101125

2011-01-03 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
So what's the stats right now? There have been tons of tracing since Bing came out. :-) On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just some stats of our existing data coverage as of 20101125. XML file size : 304 MB Total Ways: 116,151 Total

Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))

2011-01-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Yup, can it be on another date? I'll be helping out with Wikimedia Philippines' Wikipedia Takes Manila to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th year anniversary. http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Manila On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Wayne Manuel

Re: [talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik

2011-01-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi all, The layer=* tag is used to indicate which objects are relatively above or below each other and *not* to indicate which objects should be rendered/drawn above or below each other. So if there are two objects (e.g. a road and a railway) that are on the same level especially if they cross

Re: [talk-ph] C5 routing is excellent

2011-01-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Glad to hear your relatives are OK. Coincidentally, I was at Cypress Towers behind Petron yesterday meeting some friends from college. I was able to add details to the vicinity more than an hour ago[1]. Speaking of C-5 routing, I'm not yet sure if the road[1] from the service road to C-5

Re: [talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik

2010-12-31 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Ed, Yes, there is a way. The ones who maintain the Mapnik style rendering rules just need to set the layering and prioritization rules for railways vs. highways. The question is, is this something that they will be willing to change? Admittedly, drawing railways on top of highways is simply a

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Steve Doerr steve.do...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: On 30/12/2010 22:50, Diego Woitasen wrote: Yes, we'll map the restrictions. I reviewed the local law and sometimes you can turn left so we must tag the restriction on every case. Does it have to be every

[OSM-talk] ITO's 2008: A Year of Edits is in BBC's The Joy of Stats

2010-12-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
ITO World's 2008: A Year of Edits is featured within the first 15 seconds of BBC's documentary The Joy of Stats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOOmqHzkkOo I haven't watched the whole documentary yet (sounds really interesting) so I'm not sure if OSM is an actual topic in the docu.

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Hendrik Oesterlin hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de wrote: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote on 31/12/2010 at 13:11:26 +1100 subject [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways : I remember a suggestion like this a long time ago. Tagging a way

Re: [talk-ph] Sun Cruises is using OSM!

2010-12-29 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Alternately, I heard there's another boat company who has trips to Corregidor, but who _will_ let bikes on their boat. Forgot the name though ... I'll research this again if anyone's interested. Jim Please do, it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-29 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Diego Woitasen di...@woitasen.com.ar wrote: Hi,  In Argentina we have a general rule. If you are driving in a two way highway (residential, primary, secondary, etc) you can't turn left. You can do it only if there is a sign and/or traffic light with the turn

Re: [talk-ph] RA 10067 Tubbataha Reefs National Park (TRNP) Act of 2009 has coordinates of the park's boundaries

2010-12-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
malaysia :( shame...shame on geographically-challenged people in government -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a PDF link of the scanned copy of the law from

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Of course. You can see details on signs and on walls on aerial imagery. *Doh!* that was supposed to have been You *can't* see details... ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:04 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I'm sorry, but no. This is not common practice, nor is it desirable. Could we please not give advice which only reflects personal preferences? Fwiw, highway=road

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
For *that* particular imagery, yes. My point is that blindly saying that you shouldn't trace from imagery if you haven't visited the place is not a hard rule. There are a lot of circumstances when tracing is actually OK. On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 3:19 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Of course. You can see details on signs and on walls on aerial imagery. I'm not saying that nobody should anymore visit a place that has been traced from aerial imagery. But for Australian aerial imagery like Nearmap's which is very recent and of a high resolution, I think that Australians would

[talk-ph] RA 10067 Tubbataha Reefs National Park (TRNP) Act of 2009 has coordinates of the park's boundaries

2010-12-18 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Here's a PDF link of the scanned copy of the law from the Senate website: http://www.senate.gov.ph/republic_acts/ra%2010067.pdf It contains coordinates of the park's boundaries in PRS92 datum: Pt 1 9°04'52 119°46'10 Pt 2 9°06'05 119°48'22 Pt 3 8°58'09 120°03'12 Pt 4 8°53'29 120°03'30 Pt

Re: [OSM-talk] open.mapquest.com launched for the US

2010-12-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I agree with David, that this shows a view of the world which is distorted, ignoring Asia where most humans actually reside, and ignoring Africa at the same time. A useful thing would be an honest comparison of what is

[talk-ph] An amusing anecdote from the Intramuros Mapping Party

2010-12-15 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Read it all here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/seav/diary/12584 :-) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

Re: [talk-ph] bing in Naic, Cavite is shifted

2010-12-09 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hmmm. So I guess the already existing traces were the ones that are inaccurate? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:27 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: CDO CDO is OK based on my tracks yesterday

Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft is letting OpenStreetMap trace from their aerial imagery!!!

2010-12-08 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:03 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Yay!  Cebu here we come! On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here'e an announcement from the Bing Maps Blog: http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/11

Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft is letting OpenStreetMap trace from their aerial imagery!!!

2010-12-08 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
And Jolo, Sulu as well: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=88478673 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony has discovered another Bing satellite image and this one covers Sta. Praxedes and Claveria in Cagayan: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
I agree with Frederik's very nice comparison of OSM with volunteer organizations as well. I guess OSM should be viewed as a collection of geodata to which Frederik, John, Liz, Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Richard, Richard, Richard, et al have contributed to, instead of as a collection of

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: The usual sort of click-through 'agreement' has two buttons, one for positive, and one for negative. Whether a click-through agreement with two buttons for positive and none for negative can be enforced anywhere is not

Re: [talk-ph] bing in Naic, Cavite is shifted

2010-12-07 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
I've checked Cebu, CDO, Legazpi, Iloilo, and Calamba and they're all shifted with respect to GPS traces. Metro Manila seems to be the one with mostly correct positioning. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:46 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: In trying to bingify our last mapping

Re: [talk-ph] General strategy to using bing imagery in areas with no active OSMer (was Re: Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use)

2010-12-03 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
for zambo area On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: We should also check whether the imagery is aligned correctly. I looked at Calamba and the imagery seems to be shifted WNW by around 5 meters compared to the numerous GPS traces. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one that sees a problem with the legal foundation of tracing from Bing imagery? Take a look at how NearMap.com make their imagery available for tracing. On their website along with the their license of

[talk-ph] OSM blankets anyone?

2010-12-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
http://pistilsf.com/2010/11/29/launching-the-blankets/ But at $165 a blanket... ouch! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Bing - Terms of Use

2010-12-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:23 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: On 01/12/10 08:52, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Andrew Harvey wrote: Just to clarify is this http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html the document

[talk-ph] Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use

2010-11-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Here's the terms of use: http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details Please read before tracing. :-) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use

2010-11-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here is more information: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing And check first if the imagery is really rectified or aligned correctly; use GPS traces to confirm: http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms On Wed, Dec 1

Re: [talk-ph] Bing or own aerial pictures...

2010-11-28 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Cool! I was about to ask you about your helicopter tours because of your recent edits, but Bing distracted me. Hehehe. Maybe you need a better camera set-up so you can get more vertical shots? On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, The Bing imagery is

[talk-ph] How did you contribute to OSM?

2010-11-28 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, You might be interested to see your overall editing stats in OpenStreetMap. Just go to this site http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ and enter your OSM username. Enjoy! Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org

[talk-ph] Multiple GPS tracks really make a difference!

2010-11-26 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Here's an interesting article talking about how TomTom's MapShare program (both the active and passive types) are helping Tele Atlas (which was bought by TomTom) improve their data. The article itself is very educational, but the accompanying images are quite informative in themselves.

[talk-ph] Microsoft is letting OpenStreetMap trace from their aerial imagery!!!

2010-11-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Read it from the blog of Steve Coast, who have joined Microsoft's Bing Maps division: http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima Relevant quote: Microsoft is donating access to it's global orthorectified aerial imagery to help OpenStreetMappers make the map even

[OSM-talk] 1 billionth node

2010-11-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
We apparently hit the 1 billionth node milestone last Monday (or the node with ID 10 if the previous statement is not accurate): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/10 The node is, unsurprisingly, part of some import in Romania. Make of that what you will. :-D

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile

2010-11-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Never mind Steve Coast joining Microsoft (though I would guess several people would have apoplexy over a husband and a wife working for rival mapping companies), but the anticipated announcement that Microsoft will let OpenStreetMappers trace from their imagery is a much more welcome news to me!

[talk-ph] Analysis needed for a changeset by a newbie

2010-11-21 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6420861 This is very first changeset by a newbie and it contains 118 edited/added nodes using Potlatch. I fear that he may have accidentally dragged a really long way. ___ talk-ph mailing list

Re: [talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party

2010-11-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Facebook event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137921756259302 On 10/31/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, There being no objections or other suggestions, the 2010 4th quarter mapping party

[talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party: meeting places

2010-11-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, For the Intramuros Mapping Party, there will be 2 meeting places. One in the morning before the field survey and one in the afternoon after the field survey. We have not finalized yet the meeting places and we would like to solicit suggestions from the community. For the morning meetup,

[talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party: How you can help right now

2010-11-15 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hello everyone, Even if you are not or cannot attend the Intramuros Mapping Party this December, you can still help in this event: 1. Spread the word! 2. Map as much of the area from Yahoo! such as missing streets, buildings, and the like. This is so that attendees can then just verify them on

Re: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-12 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Fabian, Thanks for creating this good visualization of ways affected by the acceptance of ODbL + CT. May I make a suggestion? It seems that only roads are being marked. How about all the other ways like landuses, boundaries, riverbanks, and others? I think you can create a really simple

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-09 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
As I mentioned elsewhere in another mailing list, you'd also have problems with plate tectonics. For example, the big earthquake this year in Chile displaced parts of that country by several feet. How do you represent the current location of objects with past data? Someone suggested to place

Re: [OSM-talk] Now: Wikiteam

2010-11-07 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
2010/11/7 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net: so we get another set of edit wars? Not necessarily. Just because two people may disagree doesn't automatically make that a war. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros Mapping Party

2010-10-24 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Bunny, Maning would be interested in that. :-) Eugene On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Leonard Soriano banito_pi...@yahoo.com wrote: maganda ito. para sa interesado, set up tayo ng mapping team na mga naka-bike. :-) --bunny --- On Sun, 24/10/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM11 will be held in Denver.

2010-10-24 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: In one of the following years, I think we should go to Asia for the same reasons. +1. Yes, please. :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros Mapping Party

2010-10-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: sige sige. we need walking papers (paper pen) for this mapping. On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, For the 4th quarter OSM Mapping Party, I propose we tackle Intramuros, Rizal Park

Re: [talk-ph] October skillshare and OSM Org meeting (was Re: OpenStreetMap Philippines Inc.)

2010-10-22 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, We'll be postponing this meetup to November. Eugene On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: k where or what time... is anyone else going, like skillshare ba sya or just to discuss, sana may konti plan pra we can prepare Andre

Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

2010-10-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Are these maps kosher for tracing? The Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines (Republic Act No. 8293) has this to say: Section 176.1. No copyright shall subsist in any work of the Government of the Philippines. However, prior approval of the government agency or office wherein the work is

Re: [talk-ph] October skillshare and OSM Org meeting (was Re: OpenStreetMap Philippines Inc.)

2010-10-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Is everyone OK with October 24, Saturday, somewhere in Ortigas (para malapit-lapit naman sa amin ni Andre :-) On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote:  pwede ako pra sa doc signing but let me know when it is pra ill prepare the docs

Re: [talk-ph] October skillshare and OSM Org meeting (was Re: OpenStreetMap Philippines Inc.)

2010-10-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Sorry, October 23 dapat. :-P On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: 24 is a Sunday On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Is everyone OK with October 24, Saturday, somewhere in Ortigas (para malapit-lapit naman sa amin

[talk-ph] Fwd: typhoon

2010-10-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Note: I'm forwarding these two off-list messages to the talk-ph mailing list so the OSMPH community can also chime in. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM Subject: Re: typhoon To: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

Re: [talk-ph] typhoon

2010-10-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz; Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 7:44

Re: [talk-ph] Digital Topographic Mapping of Mindanao

2010-10-13 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
--bunny --- On Tue, 12/10/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Digital Topographic Mapping of Mindanao To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Received: Tuesday, 12 October

Re: [talk-ph] Digital Topographic Mapping of Mindanao

2010-10-12 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Deja vu: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ph@openstreetmap.org/msg01656.html Does this mean that this project is still in the planning stage after 1 year? On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:24 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Found this news on Sorbi's news blog:

[talk-ph] Flight paths in OSM

2010-10-10 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, There are currently flight paths data in OSM such as the Manila-Davao path, Manila-Singapore path, Manila-Bacolod path, and maybe others. I personally don't think these would be useful in OSM per se. Maybe in another website that collects GPS flight tracks. Take note that flights do not

[talk-ph] OSM vs. RoadGuide.ph

2010-10-09 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, If anyone is interested to see the differences between RoadGuide.ph and OpenStreetMap, then check out this article I wrote in the OSM Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RoadGuide.ph If you have a Garmin GPS device then you most probably have heard of RoadGuide.ph. In my personal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fair use?

2010-10-08 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Prado, Renato (R.P.) rpr...@visteon.com wrote: Hello! Are you planning to just overlay your data over the background map as a separate and independent layer? If yes, then this would qualify as a collective work under CC and you just need to attribute OSM in

[talk-ph] My report on the Cavite Road Network Mapping Party

2010-10-07 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Here's my personal take on the concluded Mapping Party: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/a_huge_cavite_road_trip Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

[talk-ph] New animation of the Cavite Road Network Mapping Party

2010-10-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, After murdering the Python mapping party rendering script (and this is the first time I ever touched any Python code) I'm pleased to announce a new animation showing how the mapping teams progressed during the Cavite Road Network Mapping Party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ezOvWRT_M

Re: [talk-ph] OSM lecture for GE students (Fwd: Fw: Re: osm mapping)

2010-10-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Masyadong short notice. Sa October 9 mismo puwede pa. :-) On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:58 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone interested to do this? @jessie, I don't think I can come this Saturdy.  But let's see if other OSMers can do this for you. --- On Fri, 1/10/10,

Re: [talk-ph] Some towns of Laguna a bit far from reality? (was: can you help me with this one?)

2010-09-21 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
BSWM data is sometimes quite wrong. I had to delete some of those roads that clashed horribly with the traces we collected for GMA, Cavite. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5761934 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:44 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Tutubi asked

Re: [talk-ph] Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge: what's the status?

2010-09-19 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
it at least I know it'll soon open in a few months time. -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com On 9/7/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I've just learned today that there is apparently a new bridge crossing the Pasig River

Re: [talk-ph] u-turn slots

2010-09-18 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:50 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: another one that needs a turn restriction is the no left turn from Pioneer street to Madison st in Mandaluyong I don't know how to add turn restriction relations in Potlatch. I've fixed this. There is no need

[talk-ph] Software Freedom Day 2010

2010-09-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Does anybody know about the Software Freedom Day[1] happening today, September 18 at UP Diliman? In the programme[2] there's a bunch of plenary talks in the morning and in the afternoon are several breakout sessions. In the FOSS Suites and Projects breakout session, there's a topic

Re: [talk-ph] Might this be useful to anyone?

2010-09-09 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
As Noli said, that requires you to have an Amazon EC2 account. I'm using Cloudmade's free service in my web app with my own custom style. You can see the style here: http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=14.549711lng=121.046741zoom=18styleId=6474opened_tab=0 On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Noli Sicad

[talk-ph] Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge: what's the status?

2010-09-07 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, I've just learned today that there is apparently a new bridge crossing the Pasig River. This is the Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge between Makati and Mandaluyong and extends Estrella along Rockwell to Hulo in Mandaluyong. Is this bridge still under construction? No other map shows this

Re: [talk-ph] Cavite Mapping Party - September 11, 2010

2010-09-06 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
We just had a meeting earlier this night. Here's a brain dump of the things we still need to do: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Cavite_Road_Network_Mapping_Party/Planning On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.comwrote: So a week to go, I know there's a

Re: [talk-ph] Cavite Mapping Party - September 11, 2010

2010-09-06 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
And here are the final cake slices: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Cavite_Road_Network_Mapping_Party_cake_slices.png :-) On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: We just had a meeting earlier this night. Here's a brain dump of the things we still

[talk-ph] Article: GPS is routing people to Lourde, France, not *the* Lourdes, France 92 kilometers away

2010-09-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
http://revealingerrors.com/lourdes_gps I wonder if we have similar problems here in the Philippines... ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

Re: [talk-ph] Vigan

2010-09-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Lots of cities in the Philippines need their own mapping parties. Even Cebu City is sorely lacking in map data. That's why we need to spread the word about OSM so that local people can take charge of adding and updating their area. :-) You can start by adding more details to Vigan when you go

Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-09-01 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
of its own). Good job guys! :-D On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: here's how to use the sawtooth webpage and josm http://vimeo.com/13546210 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Nice

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

2010-08-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: ...why should the onus of forking be on the license-change agreers? If this is indeed the case, then the ones

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 30 August 2010 17:24, Albertas Agejevas a...@pov.lt wrote: Want an example of a use case DB integration? Consider flight simulators. It would be good to have scenery generated by combining data from OSM with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

2010-08-29 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: my question is, why dont you just make a fork for the new license and leave the rest of us to continue in peace? get the new system working and then we can talk about it. mike This

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-28 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:22 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder how Frederik is going to rationalise having the Kosovo information removed, another million objects that can be added in just a few weeks?

[talk-ph] What's a nice place in Tagaytay for the Cavite Mapping Party?

2010-08-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, Can anyone recommend a nice place (probably a restaurant) in Tagaytay where can all meet-up after going all over Cavite? We don't really need a place with Wi-Fi or a place for presentations. The evening meet-up will mostly be socials: exchanging stories etc. But Maning and Rally will

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0 continuation

2010-08-22 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Felix Hartmann extremecar...@googlemail.com wrote: This means we have to find a new domain, new servers, and get the usernames/passwords copied so people can login to the CCBYSA 2.0 fork without new registration. If you must fork, fork the data (planet.osm),

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Well, I actually tag the whole grounds of a church as amenity=place_of_worship and leave the building(s) as building=yes ignoring the fact that it looks awful on the Mapnik layer. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39724055 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Ed Loach

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
You're being too literal with worship part of place_of_worship. We have highway=steps and stairways are definitely not highways. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 2:19 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: Well, I actually tag the whole

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 7:42 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com: You're being too literal with worship part of place_of_worship. We have highway=steps and stairways are definitely not highways. Amenity=place_of_worship

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship

2010-08-20 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
-talk] Place of worship From :mailto:sea...@gmail.com Date :Fri Aug 20 21:38:06 America/Chicago 2010 On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 7:42 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/20 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com mailto:sea...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, CTs and tracing GPS tracks

2010-08-17 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:54 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi wrote: TimSC mapp...@... writes: Hi all, Apologies if this has been raised before, but I was wondering about GPS track data and licenses.

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 25, Issue 7

2010-08-13 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
How about we do pre-processing on the OSM file to add place=hamlet nodes to every named landuse=residential? I don't like the idea of adding a place=hamlet to all landuse=residential in the OSM database since we don't distinguish landuse=residential as a gated community (e.g. Ayala Alabang

Re: [talk-ph] Nodes vs. Areas in the Garmin map

2010-08-12 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hmmm... is it possible to place everything else without an explicit Garmin hex code to a catch-all generic POI category? That would make everything that has a name searchable in the Garmin map. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11,

Re: [talk-ph] Nodes vs. Areas in the Garmin map

2010-08-10 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
The user told me that the problem also includes named landuse=residential polygons. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/71376402 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm... doesn't mkgmap's --add-pois-to-area work around this limitation

[talk-ph] Nodes vs. Areas in the Garmin map

2010-08-09 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi guys, I recently contacted a user who added a node for Santuario de San Antonio even though a polygon exists for it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39724055 He said that the church wasn't showing up in the Garmin map and that's why he added that node. Anybody else having problems

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-09 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Imports are bad enough in the effect they have on the surveying community. You are welcome to join a 48,000 km kayak trip to survey the Australian coastline. However If there is

Re: [talk-ph] OpenStreetMap Philippines Inc. Update

2010-08-08 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Cool! Do we need a bank account? I'm guessing that if sponsors would sponsor in cash, then they will probably give a check. Also, we would need to give receipts if ever so we can all account for tax purposes. As for being an NGO. I know that there are some requirements for that. But what's the

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
From how I understand it, NearMap's editor is so simple (can't do complex edits) and is often used for one-off edits that I think how NearMap does it is pretty spot on in trying to get the most number of contributions. What I guess NearMap should do more is to explain about OSM more clearly if a

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:43 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 August 2010 08:56, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, John Smith wrote: Even wikipedia doesn't take that attitude, they're currently being threatened by the FBI over a SVG image. Nothing to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] decision removing data

2010-08-04 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:20 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.orgwrote: 3. Each element is examined and only those with an unbroken history chain from version 1 to the most recent ODbL'ed version are marked as OK. Does anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-08-02 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
No one seems to have mentioned that any OSM API update could potentially break thousands of applications yet we still update it if needed. For example, the change to API 0.5 broke every tool, renderer or app that still assumed segments exist. (Then again, for this example, it was easier to change

Re: [OSM-talk] A plea for meaning ful changeset comments

2010-07-31 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:09 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote: On 31/07/2010 11:52, Pieren wrote: Sourcing might be the only meaningfull comment I could see. This is the only important information that cannot be retrieved by software and is required to justify some actions e.g.

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