Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-29 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com

[Talk-us] Any interest in Google Code-In?

2010-10-28 Per discussione Ian Dees
by this weekend. -Ian ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-26 Per discussione Ian Sergeant
is gone. It would only take a couple of minutes for Maree/Coober Pedy, and the problem as far as street names go would vanish. Ian. That then removes the tempation On 27 October 2010 12:42, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: referenced is for Coober Pedy. As far as I can tell the guy

Re: [Talk-us] Route Tagging Consensus

2010-10-25 Per discussione Ian Dees
sub tags as we commonly do for many other osm features Ian has suggested the established is_in= tag for this purpose, and Alex Mauer has suggested a relation that contains all the routes for a (state or lower) network. Personally, of those two, I think I prefer is_in=. For Michigan

Re: [talk-au] Port Hacking (Bay v. Water)

2010-10-24 Per discussione Ian Sergeant
well for communication. Information in the notes, or even in notes:FOR_SWANILLI. It also lets others editing in the area know what is going on. Ian. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [Talk-us] Route Tagging Consensus

2010-10-24 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: Since there's more agreement around the US:ST:County approach, are there objections to just documenting that in the wiki? I disagree that there is agreement about this approach. As I've mentioned a couple times, we need to

Re: [Talk-us] About TIGER ways in Kansas

2010-10-24 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 10/24/10 11:12 PM, Mike N. wrote: Mike, are you specifically interested in Arkansas? The state level data might be better than TIGER and the state is very interested in getting it into OSM. I was researching

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.comwrote: On 10/15/2010 09:44 PM, Richard Welty wrote: Sans prefices, the highway=motorway where US Highway 10, Wisconsin Highway 66, and Interstate Highway 39 run together would have ref=10;66;39. Not very useful for

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Prefix information should not go in OSM. If a renderer wants to display a prefix somehow, then they can go look it up based on other information

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On 10/23/2010 05:00 PM, Mike N. wrote: should be using reply to mailing list and not reply to all. The former has been around in modern mailers not politically motivated to do the wrong things for about 10 years

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Per discussione Ian Dees
I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). On Oct 21, 2010 4:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21,

Re: [talk-au] Port Hacking (Bay v. Water)

2010-10-19 Per discussione Ian Sergeant
doubt that placing it on the ABS boundary is a step forward - it misses many details of the bay. The Port Hacking has been adjusted in many points, by survey, interpolation and yahoo, and is mostly more accurate in my view than the ABS data. Ian

Re: [talk-au] Question re footway or path for asphalt paths in National Parks

2010-10-19 Per discussione Ian Sergeant
to mark an asphalt national park track as wheelchair accessible, as not many of them maintained to a point of being independently accessible. Where is the path you are considering tagging? Ian. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-19 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/19/2010 04:00 PM, Anthony wrote: What project would you recommend? I'm looking for a project that creates and provides free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them. Not one that makes maps in

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-19 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com writes: For example, Kansas highway 18: type = route route = road network = US:KS ref = 18 (optional?) symbol=* tag Also an optional wikipedia link. There does seem to be

Re: [Talk-us] Do City Labels look funny to you?

2010-10-19 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: Tom Hughes, OSM contributor and infrastructure guru has written an interesting summary of why some part of OSM can look strange. http://compton.nu/2010/10/city-labels-in-openstreetmap/ Sounds like a good project for a bot to

Re: [Talk-us] Do City Labels look funny to you?

2010-10-19 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: - Support for route relations Why should this be US-specific? Canada certainly has the same sort of route system as the US, and many European

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On 10/15/2010 05:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Ian Dees ian.dees-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Talk-us] State Route relations (was: Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns))

2010-10-16 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: So far, it seems to be something like type=route route=road network=US:NY - state abbreviation ref=87 - number only symbol=* or for county roads, network=US:NY:Albany - full county name As I pointed out

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i have created a page for a US Tagging working group here:

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: ...discussions on the mailing list tend to wander all over the place and lead to no conclusions or decisions being made. If we meet in a phone

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: == Inconsistent State Prefixes == I wish there was a better (simpler) way to consistently tag the state and county shields but I do not have one. I think it needs to be done though. Compared to the rest of the world, I

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I made that one up (CO for County). Yes, CTH probably makes more sense but isn't that pretty specific? Do all states use that verbiage

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we should be storing any prefix as part of the network=* or ref=* tags (thus my suggestion for network=us_route/state_route

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 10/15/10 6:06 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I made that one up (CO for County

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I briefly mentioned the is_in=* tag earlier. County road 1 in Albany County would have network=county_road,is_in:county=Albany while

Re: [Talk-us] tagging a national forest boundary

2010-09-30 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I'm importing the USFS data for the Ocala National Forest boundary

Re: [Talk-us] tagging a national forest boundary

2010-09-30 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think you should imply that there is a natural=forest boundary logically separate from the National Forest's boundary. Assuming you're

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences

2010-09-22 Per discussione Ian Dees
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011/Bid/Denver-Ian On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, One of the topics discussed tonight during the US Chapter board meeting was the possibility of making a bid for the international State of the Map conference in 2011. We

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences (Peter Batty)

2010-09-10 Per discussione Ian Dees
9, 2010 at 22:34, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I'm digging this idea... is there anyone that would be interested in starting a bid document or page on the wiki for Boulder or Denver? Not that we have to officially submit it but it would be helpful to at least get these ideas down on paper

[Talk-us] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: [CrisisCommons] URGENT BAY AREA NEED - volunteer mappers tomorrow

2010-09-10 Per discussione Ian Dees
Just in case the mailing lists don't overlap enough to catch everyone: -- Forwarded message -- From: Deborah Shaddon dshad...@comcast.net Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:58 PM Subject: [CrisisMappers] Re: [CrisisCommons] URGENT BAY AREA NEED - volunteer mappers tomorrow To:

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences

2010-09-09 Per discussione Ian Dees
be great if people could make both events. Leslie -- *From:* Peter Batty pe...@ebatty.com *To:* Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com *Cc:* talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Talk-us@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Wed, September 8, 2010 8:41:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences (Peter Batty)

2010-09-09 Per discussione Ian Dees
I'm digging this idea... is there anyone that would be interested in starting a bid document or page on the wiki for Boulder or Denver? Not that we have to officially submit it but it would be helpful to at least get these ideas down on paper somewhere. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Hurricane

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Brian Prangle wrote on 27/08/2010 08:02: Have we got to the stage of mapping these that it would be worth the effort in replicating a rendering similar to OpenCycleMap?. The wiki page on long distance paths seems to have a pretty comprehensive listing and you can

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Per discussione Ian Spencer
SomeoneElse wrote on 27/08/2010 10:58: On 27/08/2010 08:50, Ian Spencer wrote: I don't think there is anyone rendering it explicitly at the moment, however, it would be trivial for someone to take

Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

2010-08-27 Per discussione Ian Spencer
SomeoneElse wrote on 27/08/2010 11:35: On 27/08/2010 11:22, Ian Spencer wrote: There is a relationship type route with network tag uk_ldp, and in Potlatch it already renders the long distance paths in a different way, so

Re: [Talk-GB] highway=trunk

2010-08-26 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Craig Wallace wrote on 25/08/2010 22:28: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:41 +0100, "Ian Spencer" ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: I think "already by definition cycle-legal" is the very point I am querying. The trouble with the Bicycle

[Talk-GB] highway=trunk

2010-08-25 Per discussione Ian Spencer
I came across a problem with Velomap, which I find is a good autorouting version of OSM for my purposes for cycling and still works fine for walking too. Velomap has made an assessment of the various tags to guess how best to route for bicycles on roads, tracks and

Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-25 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Brad Rogers wrote on 25/08/2010 11:30: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:57:23 +0100 Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Ian, suggested, there are no sources quoted on the ways typically, and a very high number of ways simply do not join although keepright

Re: [Talk-GB] highway=trunk

2010-08-25 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Jim Avery wrote on 25/08/2010 12:36: Personally I think that explicitly tagging roads which are already by definition cycle-legal as bicycle=yes would be too onerous and not entirely helpful. There are quite a few roads which are legal but lethal for cyclists. I think

Re: [Talk-us] What would you want done with TIGER 2010?

2010-08-24 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.eduwrote: Anyway If the 2010 has block-face-level address ranges, it would be good to upload the streets as block edges rather than long ways spanning several blocks, to make it easier to work with the address ranges. (so the

Re: [Talk-us] What would you want done with TIGER 2010?

2010-08-24 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: On a smaller scale, I don't know. Pretty much all the TIGER data I've ever seen is surpassed in quality by local county/state data. So if you're going to import county by county, why bother with TIGER? Not all states /

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-23 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Richard Fairhurst wrote on 23/08/2010 12:00: Phillip Barnett wrote: Potlatch is still offering Opendata as a layer, with no warning as to the potential problem vis a vis existing contributions. Shouldn't we be dropping this rather quickly? I

Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-21 Per discussione Ian Spencer
, at 23:57, Ian Spencer wrote: I was checking why a bike route from near Derby to Alton Towers was really badly out and discovered that whoever has been mapping an area around Derbyshire has been cunningly disguising

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Derbyshire area unconnected

2010-08-21 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Dave F. wrote on 21/08/2010 13:29: On 21/08/2010 07:42, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Sorry not to list. - Forwarded Message From: Jerry Clough - OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Ian, Ian Dees wrote: I got the impression after SotM US that there was a huge interest in doing imports correctly. For me, correctly means the following: 0. Discuss with community (don't import if no community

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: A toolset like this would let a community grow around the import process - letting OSM get the good data that's out there whilst making sure there's a community there to maintain it. Good ideas. Also, If one of the

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett blord-casti...@stlouisco.com wrote: Once I get our data uploaded into ESRI Community Basemaps (which is a simpler process, has technical support, and will accept and integrate our authoritative data even without an editor community), I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett blord-casti...@stlouisco.com wrote: Just thought I would add that both the Google and ESRI programs allow for community edits, which we can get back out into our systems. Community BaseMaps even makes the data directly available to end

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Joe Woycke woy...@gmail.com wrote: [...] if osm chooses to exclude the local govt and refuse their data they will lose out on a rich data source that is better than the tiger data that osm currently uses as its base data. Again, no one is suggesting that we

[Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-16 Per discussione Ian Dees
I got the impression after SotM US that there was a huge interest in doing imports correctly. For me, correctly means the following: 1. Get permission 2. Convert to OSM format 3. Compare to existing data 4. Upload to the data I think a tool could be made that automated most of these steps (or at

[Talk-us] Live Stream of SotM US

2010-08-14 Per discussione Ian Dees
After a half mile walk to CVS and an unsuccessful attempt at writing a driver for the $10 USB camera I bought, I just installed Ustream on my phone. Here's the link: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/state-of-the-map-us-live No guarantees on uptime :-).

Re: [Talk-us] National Wetlands Inventory

2010-08-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
, but they serve two different purposes/missions. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:12, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if our friends at the USGS know about this data. If they do, there must be a good reason why

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 5393406

2010-08-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
I think I remember Eric (ebwolf: owner of said changeset) mentioning something about a bulk upload a few weeks ago. I bet he'll respond to your OSM message if he doesn't see this thread. -- Forwarded message -- From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 5393406

2010-08-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
I'm have a private tilecache for NAIP and am working on a public one right now. I'll publicize it when I get it working. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com wrote: I know this seems like a silly question, coming from me and all, but where are you getting your NAIP

Re: [Talk-us] USGS imagery (was: Changeset 5393406)

2010-08-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net wrote: It sure would be nice if these individual image sets were available through a common interface, instead of having to find/add all the separate links. 1) Check out

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 5393406

2010-08-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
-=--=---===---=--=-=--=---==---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.comwrote: Looks like it was actually Ian who posted this WMS URL a couple weeks ago: http://isse.cr.usgs.gov/ArcGIS/services

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-10 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Jaak Laineste jaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: Map is a hand-written 2D picture of the world. It is definitely more a kind of art than a digital photo in flickr, there is more subjectivity and

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-10 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Patrick Kilian o...@petschge.de wrote: Hi, There is a big difference between pointing out the current form of the contributor terms means that we will loose 80% of the data in Australia. Do you really want to proceed? and jumping into every thread and

[OSM-talk] Blah blah blah

2010-08-10 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: Maybe a line saying mailing list posts should follow the topic of the list Fine Talk= talk and when you get plenty you are upset? Talk is not how I would describe what's happening on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-10 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:04:00PM -0600, SteveC wrote: Someone mentioned that in addition there should be some topic guidelines per mailing list too […] I think this should be a general code of conduct, and each

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-09 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the cases you are probably familiar with involve simple lists of telephone numbers and subscribers. The moment you add even the slightest originality to a collection of facts then it become eligible for copyright. Can you

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:14 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:09 AM, John Smith wrote: On 7 August 2010 03:04, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Sounds like you've never been to court. Who's right or wrong is a secondary consideration here, the first order of

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 August 2010 03:14, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: If they have several orders of magnitude more money then probably the cost/benefit tradeoff would suggest throwing out the data is the better option. Even

Re: [Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports

2010-08-05 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I'm wondering about: how useful is a small piece of a future larger import? For example, there's the National Hydrography Dataset, import of which is apparently being coordinated on the wiki. I've imported

Re: [Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports

2010-08-05 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I think the NHD import is a good example of a well-intentioned importer (me) gone wrong. I had initially planned to import the whole darn thing

Re: [Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports

2010-08-05 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Sat, Jan 8, 2000 at 3:20 PM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote: The difference with NHD is that we are leaving conversion to osm format for the local mapper / importer. Since OSM US has server space, maybe that's good use of it to host converted data ready for import. I like this...

Re: [Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports

2010-08-05 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2010-08-05 11:52, Ian Dees wrote: ... It isn't any different. I had made the (bad) decision at the time to import over any existing data because in the several hundred places I

Re: [OSM-talk] Death by a thousand nitpicks

2010-08-04 Per discussione Ian Dees
2010/8/4 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On 04/08/2010 19:01, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Let's create a fund to pay for license related legal action ;)) After all it is so sad having a license and not be able

Re: [OSM-talk] Death by a thousand nitpicks

2010-08-04 Per discussione Ian Dees
2010/8/4 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Ian Dees wrote: Wait, how did the thread about NOT nitpicking over licensing issues turn into a donate so we can hire lawyers to nitpick thread? Probably because some people instead of doing something with our data (like big

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-04 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: I'm slightly confused by all this talk about needing contractual agreements with all the end users and the OSM-F, or needing to identify Nearmap users to OSM-F. OSM already has data in the database from other

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-04 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: It's somewhat frustrating to find this being immediately classified in the same box as anonymous editing and/or vandalism. I wanted to make it clear that I'm ecstatic to finally see a simple map editor coming out. I look

Re: [Talk-GB] Yet more musical chairs updates.

2010-08-04 Per discussione Ian Caldwell
Is just me or does musical chairs not work with the Chrome Browser. I cannot select the boxes. I can interestingly select the circles? Ian . ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-03 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: On 3 August 2010 18:13, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Can somebody revert this edit ASAP? Which reminds me... we at NearMap are preparing to begin rollout of OSM editing on our site; simple operations like adding

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-03 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: I think I remember something like that; however, the edits that we're submitting all come from one user (that represents NearMap) since we don't (and can't) require users of our site to all be registered with OSM. So we

Re: [Talk-us] Would Like To Clean Salt Lake City Street Names

2010-08-03 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote: I'm almost done with this script. It's not a full bot, but instead modifies an osm file which I will read back into JOSM and upload the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means that every one doing an app needs to do some significant work to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:30 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: How is the OpenStreetMap community to distinguish these edits from vandalism, and you from a vandal? Considering I didn't make any of the changes you are accusing me of I fail to see the problem. You did...

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-30 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:25 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 31 July 2010 02:05, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: While I follow this mailing list, I am pretty sure that many people working in the OSM ecosystem is not following the change that fast. It means

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-29 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Discussing this for a day on the Tagging list is not enough for you to make this change. How much time should it take? I didn't really set a dead line but was trying to get comments on the idea...

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView

2010-07-28 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: I'll be working a lot on the viewing interface next, so this may not always be functional. However I'm aiming to keep the upload side of things up and running throughout. I just noticed that Google's Map API

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote: On 28 July 2010 13:15, Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu wrote: Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution? Since all data was collected by one mapper, their consent would be enough to allow

Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On 28 July 2010 15:28, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 July 2010 13:15, Floris Looijesteijn o...@floris.nu wrote: Bu

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote: Roadway classification in the United States is subjective

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that the European community has decided

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-26 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.orgwrote: Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that. Guidelines which only focus on each road separably without considering

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-19 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: It seems to me that Steve's post is not just a harmless rant, but contains an implication, whether purposeful or not, that some mappers, namely

Re: [OSM-talk] [SOTM] For those who don't know how awesome Ivan Sanchez can be

2010-07-14 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjO1S0AYMs4 Does anyone have the lyrics and/or video from what was presented on the screen behind him? ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - handling already-tagged fixmes

2010-07-14 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Tom Evans wrote on 14/07/2010 09:19: As another suggestion: Is there a special tag we can add to force it to highlight on the noname check without actually destroying the name tag? Tom Perhaps what is required is a new hierarchy, like: query so you might then have query:tag_name Not

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-dev] North America gone in geofabrik and tagwatch

2010-07-13 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Alan, Alan Mintz wrote: I just tried to look at tagwatch for North-america and got a 404, possibly because there is no north-america directory at http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/ either. What's up? We haven't

Re: [Talk-us] FW: [osm-professional] Regional Street Centerline Solution - Minneapolis- St. Paul metro area - RFP

2010-07-13 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:39 AM, McGuire, Matthew matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote: To who may concern in the OSM community (*please excuse any double postings*). The OSM community is encouraged to consider offering a proposal in response to the RFP proposed at

Re: [OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?

2010-07-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Wondering if anyone has tried a helmet camera like the GoPro Helmet Hero HD or ContourHD for mapping? The former even has a mode where it takes a 5MP photo every two seconds. Plus you could probably narrate to

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha

2010-07-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: I agree. Actually I was thinking on how to integrate P2 with a new design for our Chilean website. The idea of integrating Potlatch with our own website graphics/color scheme, instead

Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon inners that aren't inside.

2010-07-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.comwrote: It sure would be nice if users couldn't submit bad data. Incorrect data (wrong street name) takes a human to spot, but bad topology (doesn't conform to the rules and a computer can verify conformance) shouldn't be

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] simple osm-merge.sh updated for multiple files

2010-07-12 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Alan Millar a...@bolis.com wrote: andrzej zaborowski wrote: There's a dummy script at http://repo.or.cz/w/ump2osm.git/blob/HEAD:/osm-merge to do that (would need to be modified for 2 layers). Here is my updated version of osm-merge.sh If there's a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 07/09/2010 03:50 AM, David Ellams wrote: The company, a subsidiary of AOL, plans to announce Friday morning that it is launching a site in the U.K. based on a project called OpenStreetMap, which is dedicated to

Re: [Talk-GB] Strange Search Result in Devon or should that be Kelland Cross?

2010-07-05 Per discussione Ian Spencer
Jonathan Bennett wrote on 05/07/2010 23:58: On 05/07/2010 23:28, Guy Collins wrote: Another search: high street, barnstaple and yes the result includes various options but always ...Devon County, Kelland Cross You'll find the answer here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm.org Routing Demo

2010-07-02 Per discussione Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I made a demonstration of how the yournavigation.org website can be embedded inside osm.org. Check it out:

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