Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 21/12/2020 11:14, Richard Fairhurst wrote: More philosophically, post towns violate the “on the ground” principle. No one here writes their address as Chipping Addresses used by local people can also violate the on the ground principle. The place name I was given when I moved in appears to

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

On 20/12/2020 23:21, SK53 wrote: I'm aware of a number of terraces which are discontinuous, demonstrating that individual houses in a terrace are not building:part. There is a set of maisonettes, which are both semi-detached horizontally, and split into four groups, with roads between them,

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

On 13/12/2020 19:05, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: Also, the steps should have bicycle=dismount, not =yes. This will allow people who can't dismount to go around by the road. Only if it is illegal to try to cycle up and down the steps. Otherwise it is the duty of the renderer (router) to

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

On 12/12/2020 21:11, Martin Wynne wrote: What I'm wondering is how the typical recreational country walker would find that map, Your first problem would be establishing a funding model for it; OSM, in general, is not funded to a level that would support large scale end user use. > or

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

On 12/12/2020 13:20, Nick wrote: Would changing this to Tag:highway=bridleway be a starting point? I think the OP was saying there is a separate bridleway, almost parallel to the feature in question. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

On 08/12/2020 15:11, nathan case wrote: I am interested as a path I recently mapped is a PROW but is very dangerous to cross. It is now marked as disused:highway=path with access=discourged;designated but it is stilla PROW (byway open to all traffic in this

Re: [Talk-GB] No U-turn on a long stretch of road

On 05/12/2020 12:39, Edward Bainton wrote: Any established tagging system? The turn restriction wiki envisages turn restrictions at junctions only; my case is along the length of a major road (~3km). There's no barrier to prevent it,

Re: [Talk-GB] Idea - OSMUK walkers' map application

On 04/12/2020 16:38, Nick Whitelegg via Talk-GB wrote: However as you say council take up could be problematic. Maybe we could provide a link to FixMyStreet? Some councils insist that problem reports only come through their own web sites, or reluctantly, by phone, and will ignore emails

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

On 01/12/2020 10:11, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote: Of course it's only claiming they do have a copyright that they can make such a license necessary. Not necessarily. If you can establish a contract at every stage in the chain, you may be able to impose restrictions that go beyond copyright.

Re: [Talk-GB] Indicating an information board is broken?

On 24/11/2020 17:28, Ken Kilfedder wrote: They'll probably fix it, and the map can stay unchanged. Although, either way, I don't think this is something to map in OSM, councils seem to consider fixing street name signs very low priority. I think one argument they use now is that everyone

Re: [Talk-GB] electric fences

On 23/11/2020 22:13, Gruff Owen wrote: For Public RIghts of Way, it is highly unlikely that this structure has been authorised by the Highways Authority. Some West Country counties seem to accept electric fences across public footpaths, see the last item in

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

On 21/11/2020 15:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: there is also bicycle=permissive (based on access=permissive) for "permitted right now but can be revoked/changed at any time" The way seems to be in a park, and, in general, permissive is the maximum legal status of any path in a

Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps

On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: Upon surveying this service road it is very much closed to the public with locked gates which I marked as thus https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93935943 However these routing apps still use this service road. Have I missed something or does it

Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-lingual tagging in Wales

On 16/10/2020 14:08, Gruff Owen wrote: With that in mind, and admittedly polemicising the debate a little. If we accept the premise that the native language of Wales is Welsh and that OSM is a community mapping project where we have an opportunity to respect native communities in a way that

Re: [Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

On 29/09/2020 14:29, Gareth L wrote: I’ve prioritised tagging width values on canal towpaths in some locations where, whilst legal, it’s precarious to try and cycle along as they’re practically less than a metre wide. Unless you are just tagging with the actual width, I'd suggest that would

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

On 26/09/2020 13:06, Russ Garrett wrote: There is no legal obligation for FoI responses to be openly licensed. The point of FoI is to make information available for inspection, but not (necessarily) for reuse. To expand on that. Larger UK companies tend to be very intellectual property based,

Re: [Talk-GB] Jewson - is it shop=doityourself or shop=trade?

On 18/09/2020 21:55, Mark Goodge wrote: but B, Wilko and Wickes are consumer My impression is that Wilko is genuine consumer, but B, is mix of consumer and informal economy trade (aka handymen) and Wickes is mainly a mix of formal and informal economy trade. (I'm not sure to what extent

Re: [Talk-GB] Jewson - is it shop=doityourself or shop=trade?

On 19/09/2020 13:32, Phil Endecott via Talk-GB wrote: i.e. some chains may describe themselves in a way that allows them to get permission to operate on cheaper industrial estates rather than more expensive retail parks.  I don't think that's very useful information for map users. I think you

Re: [Talk-GB] Brexit and OpenStreetMap

On 14/09/2020 14:41, Andy Mabbett wrote: Change sets and item histories contain user names, for example. If those don't fall under some sort of exemption, you have rather more fundamental problems than Brexit; you probably can't make the map available outside the EU without some sort of NDA.

Re: [Talk-GB] Brexit and OpenStreetMap

On 14/09/2020 13:51, Tony Shield wrote: By thinking of moving OSMF from UK to EU because of Brexit are you saying that OSMF may never be able to function outside the EU - what about Switzerland where many international organisations are based, or United States. These are respected countries

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

On 19/08/2020 16:21, Russ Garrett wrote: 5m accuracy You'll accumulate that error in a couple of centuries, just from continental drift: , given that OSM is referenced to WGS-84, not the British mainland.

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

On 18/08/2020 00:11, Steven Hirschorn wrote: I'm hoping to import a dataset of EV vehicle charging points in London. I've created a wiki page here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SourceLondon There was a lot of discussion about importing EV charging station data recently, so the first

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

On 14/08/2020 19:14, Simon Still wrote: I’m not sure that’s actually a legal status that changes anything - pedestrians have priority on all shared use paths so not sure that tag would add anything Towpaths are privately paths (currently owned by the Canals and Rivers Trust), so the rules

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

On 14/08/2020 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: If signage on the ground is gone or never existed then route relation should not be mapped in OSM*. In the long term, this could make OSM useless for motor traffic as there is a general policy of decluttering signs. One of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OSM as a base for my own fictional map?

On 24/07/2020 23:54, Martin Wynne wrote: The downloaded PDF files are vector files which can be zoomed to any level without pixelating, and can have the internal records modified as required. The only vector files where you can reliably detect things like railways are those produced by the

Re: [Talk-GB] Surveying rural buildings

On 23/07/2020 10:12, Nick wrote: Do we actually know what the general public use OSM for? My impression is that the target for a lot of the material in OSM is professional users of maps, rather than the general public. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] POI files of Pub/Restaurant chain

On 15/07/2020 14:00, o...@poppe.dev wrote: As this data is pretty much openly accessible, I think there'd be no major issue with asking them if this data could be used to check all the places against OSM data and, if needed correct and/or create them, right? I often find that business

Re: [Talk-GB] Holiday camp tagging

On 13/07/2020 18:19, Cj Malone wrote: 2 - The site is split into areas with names, I've started adding address details to aid in routing, mapping them as addr:housename=area and addr:unit=#. I was originally planning to use addr:place instead of addr:housename, but this specific camp site uses

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

On 10/07/2020 13:11, Colin Smale wrote: What does "legally accessible" mean? Are they Public Footpaths? Do we tag all Public Footpaths with an explicit "foot=yes" or is "designation=public_footpath" enough? I don't know the situation in Wimbledon Common, but most footpaths in public park

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus Routes on OSM

the Open Government Licence which I believe is compatible with OSM https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence. As the wiki says, you can't rely on this without further enquiry. The problem is that it only gives rights to intellectual property owned by the government, and

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus Routes on OSM

On 06/07/2020 14:02, Matthew Scanlon wrote: How are Bus Routes added into OSM? I have noticed that bus routes in Basildon (my local area) are a few years out of date with some service such as the 5 and 8Ahaving been  withdrawn and the route 2 being renumbered 28 My understanding is that

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

On 04/07/2020 18:24, Lester Caine wrote: The current 'OHM' is not a layer that can be easily combined with the current 'OSM' layer. Large sections of the current data are simply cloned into OHM I'm not referring to OHM; I'm referring to the main OSM map. At least since September 2012, OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

On 04/07/2020 11:45, Lester Caine wrote: At the very least data currently live in on a 'current' view should be automatically filed to an historic layer when it is replaced How does this differ from how OSM already works? You can already create versions of the map at any point in its

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN Locations Map

On 03/07/2020 11:23, Tony OSM wrote: There was a reference to £1000 worth of data being made free each month to individual users - can't find out how this works yet. This may allow us as individuals to populate OSM and OSM essentially aggregates the data - rather like postcode data.

Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

On 27/06/2020 23:37, Dave Love wrote: I was going to map a covered reservoir round here that I've known from my youth, but I happened to find an article about it from the local paper suggesting the location is secret, though it's listed in Historic England. (It's not far from a "sensitive

Re: [Talk-GB] TfL Cycle Infrastructure Database - matching against OSM

On 21/06/2020 13:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: Is it ok for pedestrians to walk on the carriageway and cross the road together with cyclists in place marked by bicycle paintings? It's legal for them to do so, which is what determines access. They don't get any priority.

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

On 27/05/2020 11:48, Cj Malone wrote: their homepage exclusively shows ambient products All self service stores, unless completely sold out, have ambient products, pretty much by definition, even open air ones at the South pole, if such existed, and including ones that only stock frozen

Re: [Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments?

On 14/03/2020 18:09, ael wrote: I have just noticed some new "Embankments" added around a fortnight ago. These were added to some stone circles in Cornwall which I know well and have extensively surveyed. There is no trace of any embankments. No source was given and the user does not appear to

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

On 01/02/2020 09:26, Philip Barnes wrote: In GB halt has been used to indicate request stops. That was certainly the context in which I came across them, in this case, Warrenby Halt, on the, then British Steel iron works at Redcar, which has now been mothballed, after only a short life.

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

On 01/01/2020 11:58, Martin Wynne wrote: So where is the definitive specification? The only practical way to discover if something is valid seems to be to see how the standard map renders it. There are a large number of things that are perfectly valid that are nor rendered by the standard

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

On 01/01/2020 07:13, Martin Wynne wrote: However, I have discovered that highway=track, *area=yes* is valid - as evidence of that it is rendered on the standard map as a light brown infill between the fences with the existing highway=track as a routable way superimposed over it, in darker

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse between fences?

On 01/01/2020 00:49, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I was trying to intimate, *personally*, I wouldn't bother obsessing with mapping every *square inch* of land. I also don't think you should be mapping in that detail, but if you really want to, I would suggest that you map the wide area with just

Re: [Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

On 29/12/2019 10:40, Tony OSM wrote: What is the best way to tag? One node or three nodes? Three *areas*, plus the building outline. Really it depends on how much detail you have about the internal layout. (If there are individual administrative offices, in a different part of the building,

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

On 23/12/2019 18:15, Nick Allen wrote: I may be missing something here, but https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/477263099 looks okay to me. The OP was proposing that , , and

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabouts one piece or segregated

On 23/12/2019 03:08, Warin wrote: I'm looking at Wivenhoe B1028 way 477263099. This is a segment of a roundabout. Would it not be better for the way to be a single feature in OSM? It is rarely a good idea to revert from more concrete to more abstract, so I would say no. Incidentally, many

Re: [Talk-GB] No Through Road Ahead

On 19/12/2019 14:06, Martin Wynne wrote: How to tag this road? https://goo.gl/maps/B4kUxoR83ej9JXWQ8 There is no actual barrier, just a very sharp corner. You tag the corner, not the road, as the sign is only advisory. Unfortunately, I suspect the current tagging scheme may have difficulty

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On 18/12/2019 15:59, Robert Skedgell wrote: It's parking a car on a footway which is illegal in London (an offence which is only subject to civil enforcement), unless explicitly allowed by the local authority. It's potentially a criminal offence anywhere see sub-paragraph 17 of

Re: [Talk-GB] barrier=kerb on highways may be blocking OSRM (Car) routing

On 18/12/2019 13:31, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: That said, the same goes for cars - other than the lowest bodied sports cars, pretty much all motor vehicles are capable of taking a kerb at low speed. Although raised kerbs are generally there to stop that happening and the resultant

Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments prior to demolition

On 17/12/2019 20:35, Warin wrote: so building=apartments becomes disused:building=apartments or building=yes becomes disused:building=yes I disagree. It is still a building. In fact some of the most interesting buildings are disused ones. ___

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

On 16/12/2019 10:07, David Groom wrote: I see no benefit to mapping individual fields as separate polygons tagged as farmland if adjacent fields are also farmland. Could you explain why you think this is best? I see no reason why mapping individual fields would not be an objective for OSM.

Re: [Talk-GB] Elections Online website - candidate for OSM?

On 03/12/2019 09:47, Edward Bainton wrote: General Elections Online  (hosted at parliament.uk ) have got a failed page where the Google map is overlaid with "Development purposes only". I

Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

On 17/11/2019 22:37, Henry Bush wrote: I am aware that SSSIs change, so my plan was that my bot would look for an existing entry first, and if it exists, either modify or delete it (if the latter, I'd verify the tags were the same or something first) Delete and re-add is something that should

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

On 06/11/2019 00:53, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: This one looks like a right mess given the loop with the bus stop is one way. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2580522#map=19/52.58839/-0.21216 It's also the wrong relation type. route_masters should have route relations as their

Re: [Talk-GB] Licensability of an employee's work

In particular, when submitting data obtained through employment, it has to be clear that the company is the one that is agreeing to the licensing terms, not the individual. On 21/10/2019 12:47, David Woolley wrote: I meant you should use an account that clearly belongs to the company. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Licensability of an employee's work

way) Edward On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 20:08, David Woolley <mailto:for...@david-woolley.me.uk>> wrote: On 18/10/2019 17:43, Edward Bainton wrote: > *If an employee edits the map in the course of their employment, has the > work been adequately licensed to OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Licensability of an employee's work

On 18/10/2019 17:43, Edward Bainton wrote: *If an employee edits the map in the course of their employment, has the work been adequately licensed to OSM/the big wide Open?* I think it is true worldwide that employers have the copyright in work for hire, and only they can licence the use of

Re: [Talk-GB] accurate GPS

On 09/10/2019 14:40, Simon Ritchie wrote: They often leave objects in the ground to protect them, and then come back a few years later to have another look using new techniques.  It would be nice if they knew precisely where their target is. For that, you really need to record one or more

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

On 07/10/2019 14:23, Mark Goodge wrote: The ONS website explicitly states that their postcode products are OGL The OGL only applies to the parts of the data that relevant government organisation has the ability to grant rights to. It excepts "third party rights the Information Provider is

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

On 07/10/2019 11:43, Simon Poole wrote: It's the nature of the beast that when we are discussing OGL licensed datasets that when something turns up that was previously thought to be part of a proprietary dataset all alarm bells go off. Do you know how they derived that flag and if there is

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

On 04/10/2019 13:47, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: No. The centre point is not associated with *any* delivery point. It is an arbitrary mean, calculated mathematically. it could, in theory, be located in the middle of a park. Even postcodes unique to one property/business aren't accurate as their

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

On 02/10/2019 13:57, David Woolley wrote: Whilst I'm not sure of the precise conclusions, this has been considered many many times before.  I think it may even have been done in some places.  I'd suggest a search of the list archives. Also, the discussing tab on the wiki page you referenced

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

Whilst I'm not sure of the precise conclusions, this has been considered many many times before. I think it may even have been done in some places. I'd suggest a search of the list archives. Note that this data is not suitable for reverse geo-coding, because I don't believe it distinguishes

Re: [Talk-GB] Resurrecting the 'find the missing paths for 2026' project

On 30/09/2019 18:25, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I made a start on this about a year ago, here's a quck mock-up showing council data in colours and OSM paths shown in white as a 'tippex' effect. This allows the identification of historical 'F.P' footpaths on the historical maps which do not

Re: [Talk-GB] non-squared buildings

On 30/09/2019 11:47, SK53 wrote: I imagine for accurately surveyed & designed buildings JOSM's algorithm is likely to introduce additional errors because the architects/engineers will have used British Grid. Squaring to the grid is something you could only reasonably do for buildings

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

On 29/09/2019 15:30, Dave F wrote: Preventing the mass (hardly "mass" though) edit of Thomas Cook & instead relying on individuals to update *will* guarantee more shops will be "wrong". It could well actually have the opposite effect by getting people to audit lesser known businesses on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

On 29/09/2019 14:03, Jez Nicholson wrote: I'm not keen on bulk automated closing everything called Thomas Cook because the world is more complicated than it first seems to be. I favour visual confirmation. I think too much effort goes into these big changes. The real problem with

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

On 25/09/2019 13:24, Andy Mabbett wrote: opening_hours = none I believe the correct syntax would be: opening_hours=closed or even opening_hours=closed "tenant being liquidated" The evaluator accepts both, although gripes about the lack of public holiday rules. It interprets the latter

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote: On the other hand, there are the Community Maps. They contain very decent shapes/contours of buildings. I would like to work with a layer like that to be able to compare with aerial imagery. The community map of Welwyn Hatfield gives

Re: [Talk-GB] 'Sources' tags

On 07/09/2019 17:54, Edward Bainton wrote: I've noticed the changeset data includes the aerial image used (presumably at the moment you hit 'save', if you've referred to several?) Does this mean I don't need to add a source=aerial_imagery tag before I save a changeset? iD doesn't have it

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright in OS-derived maps

On 05/09/2019 05:48, Warin wrote: If they had derived their data from OSM .. then all would be fine. As I hinted before, the use of a red line, and a custom printout from an OS detailed map, suggests this is a map for legal purposes. For both the Land Registry and council planning

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright in OS-derived maps

On 03/09/2019 12:31, Edward Bainton wrote: I've been sent a map by a local charity that looks after large swathes of countryside near Peterborough. It's for their own internal use, showing the extent of their estate. It's based on an OS map, and comes with flags indicating Crown copyright

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

On 02/09/2019 23:13, Warin wrote: On 3/9/19 2:53 am, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 02/09/2019 14:58, David Woolley wrote: This could conflict with a trend that I believe is developing, at least for more formal roads, of removing signage, because it distracts drivers, and relying on satellite

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

On 02/09/2019 14:48, Frederik Ramm wrote: Sometimes they want us to add a "vehicle=no" to a track that has absolutely no signposts whatsoever locally, meaning that nobody can verify that vehicles are forbidden and no local motorist would be turned away This could conflict with a trend that I

Re: [Talk-GB] Valuation Office Agency council tax data (was postcode mapping (was Re: Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only))

On 30/07/2019 15:12, Stephen Colebourne wrote: What about the Valuation Office Agency council tax data? http://cti.voa.gov.uk/cti/inits.asp I found this recently, and it allows you to lookup from a postcode to the individual addresses (presumably in their standard recognised form). I've not

Re: [Talk-GB] postcode mapping (was Re: Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only))

On 30/07/2019 14:19, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Is it typical for post codes to be posted like housenumbers? Either on buildings or postboxes? Postcodes almost never. The only time you would normally find them is where the building is a company's registered office. Housenumbers seem to be

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping at Moira, NW Leicestershire.

On 27/07/2019 08:15, Graham Bowers wrote: Is anybody local mapping here that I could tag along with to learn the ropes please? Everyone has different interests. Just because they are local doesn't mean that someone is going to be interested in cycle infrastructure. My activity thus far

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote: unless there is an explicit "private" sign There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption should be that everything is private (even though the OSM default is mainly the opposite). In my part of the country, garden front

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

On 26/07/2019 10:46, Stephen Colebourne wrote: I'd like to distinguish between two kinds of gate on private roads: - those where the gate is closed by default (eg automatic closing) - those where the gate is open by default (the gate exists, but is rarely if ever closed) I'd suggest

Re: [Talk-GB] Ground truth v legal truth

On 19/07/2019 15:37, Mark Goodge wrote: There are, though, two potentially useful open data coordinate mapping systems that can be used by the likes of OSM. One is Mapcode, the other is Google's Open Location Code (aka Plus Codes). Both have the advantage of not only being entirely free and

Re: [Talk-GB] Ground truth v legal truth

On 19/07/2019 15:06, Tom Hughes wrote: You then followed up by saying that the logical consequence of it being a primary (which I was assuming was correct) was that nothing was tertiary, which didn't seem  to make much sense to me The logical consequence of ignoring the official classification

Re: [Talk-GB] Ground truth v legal truth

On 19/07/2019 13:37, Tom Hughes wrote: I would say the logical consequence of that argument is that no road should be mapped as tertiary, as, unless taken from OS, it is a subjective judgement and can't be consistently verified. That doesn't follow - in the UK we have always (with very rare

Re: [Talk-GB] Ground truth v legal truth

On 19/07/2019 12:36, Philip Barnes wrote: I cannot dispute this is legally a primary, OS Opendata shows it. I would say the logical consequence of that argument is that no road should be mapped as tertiary, as, unless taken from OS, it is a subjective judgement and can't be consistently

Re: [Talk-GB] Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only)

On 16/07/2019 22:19, ndrw6 wrote: 3. Use a collation plugin to collate both datasets with "centroid distance" set to "< 15m". The condition is there to apply postcodes only to small buildings in direct vicinity of the codepoint centroid. This algorithm will apply PO Box number postcodes to

Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data

On 13/07/2019 22:21, Colin Smale wrote: So what was your point again about internal waterways? The "extent of the realm" is not the 12-mile limit, it is ±MLW, isn't it? Assuming it is mapped correctly, this is an example of an administrative boundary that is outside the low water mark:

Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data

On 13/07/2019 21:38, Colin Smale wrote: Have you got a reference for this, making the link between the boundary of the Realm and the MCA classification of an inland waterway? What could be a consequence of this? Could you illustrate this with an example? The MCA definition of "inland waters"

Re: [Talk-GB] UK coastline data

On 13/07/2019 20:53, Colin Smale wrote: Another reason to want MLW in OSM: The "Extent of the Realm" is *for the most part* defined as MLWS. This is the limit of the jurisdiction of normal (local) government. Beyond MLWS, the local council no longer has any say - it's the UK laws of the sea,

Re: [Talk-GB] ITOworld maps

On 13/07/2019 15:33, Brian Prangle wrote: ITOworld  maps which showed a huge variety of visualisations of OSM data seems to have gone offline. For about a week now I've been getting 503 Service Unavailable No server is available to handle this request. Does anybody know what's happenng

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

On 01/07/2019 16:02, Silent Spike wrote: As far as I can tell, some progress was made previously on importing NaPTAN data for specific areas of the UK. However, the process for requesting an import on the wiki seems to have broken down somewhere along the line and I believe the python script

Re: [Talk-GB] Adjacent nature reserves

On 28/06/2019 00:56, Warin wrote: that are also holes in them (they usually omit making the hole, so an added car parking area will be covered by trees until I notice I believe that is a renderer bug. Generally smaller, fully nested, areas should cut out holes in incompatible backgrounds

Re: [Talk-GB] Adjacent nature reserves

On 27/06/2019 10:49, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: The two representations are identical in terms of the data, but the latter requires 2.5 times as many objects and is much more of a pain to work with in the editors. All to avoid having a common line segment between two areas I'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Playground age limits

On 04/06/2019 16:09, Martin Wynne wrote: The main reason for the fence would seem to be the several NO DOGS signs, which I have tagged. I've always assumed that such fences and the "adults must be accompanied by a child sign", that often accompany them, is to keep out adults who are not

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmland (crop or animals)?

On 24/05/2019 10:43, Gregory Marler wrote: to me, meadow is a different to the common farm fields that have animals in. A meadow is likely longer grass, or encouraged to get long. It might be for flowers/wildlife rather than animals. Meadows, in farms, in a land use context, are for producing

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging a named building now used for a different purpose

On 23/05/2019 21:37, Mark Goodge wrote: Normally, commercial buildings have the owner's name as the value of the 'name' key. This is often wrong, as often the business does not occupy the whole building. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Increase of mail size limit

On 14/05/2019 22:04, Rob Nickerson wrote: Tried to send a mail to the list but it failed: >     Message body is too big: 533180 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Any chance that the limit could be lifted? 40 KB seems very low given how cheap storage space is. Please don't. If people

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 08/05/2019 02:18, seirra blake wrote: is there any articles on what does/doesn't get used on particular zoom levels? just figure it wouldn't hurt to double check my general understanding That assumes that zoom level has any meaning to the tool being used to access the map. For slippy

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 07/05/2019 15:22, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: If a pub has external land other than the building itself a similar schema to 'schools' should be used: draw an enclosing polygon around the extent of the grounds & tag it with amenity=pub & any other details such as name, address, website etc.

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 07/05/2019 15:03, Martin Wynne wrote: But is that what OSM is for -- to describe the *purpose* of a thing? The original purpose of OSM was to break the monopoly on map data held by commercial mappers, by taking advantage of the ready availability of GPS equipment, so the purposes for

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 07/05/2019 13:30, Martin Wynne wrote: This idea of primary and secondary tags is new to me. There is no such distinction in the iD editor -- all applied tags are simply listed in alphabetical order. Things like name, height, and colour are normally considered secondary. Things like

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 07/05/2019 12:40, Martin Wynne wrote: I think this goes to the heart of my (mis)understanding of what OSM is for? Are we trying to create a legal reference document? Or a description of what a visitor would see on the ground? We are trying to create something that serves several

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

On 07/05/2019 12:17, Martin Wynne wrote: On 07/05/2019 11:34, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Your OSM example look fine to me - a single property is still where people reside. Any other details, such as garden, should be mapped individually within that area. Thanks Dave. But in that case, why in

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