--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Peter Dörrie wrote:
> Well they could also used against OSM. If people start
> using theirs car-gps output for this and don't bother to
> switch of the snap-to-road feature (and many won't), we
> are in trouble.
Yes, but the context here is home brew GPS. Snap to road feature
Hi,
Thomas Schäfer wrote:
> This is a bad idea. Do it right or do it not.
... has never been OSM's attitude so far, so why change now. Honestly, I
get the feeling you're on a personal crusade here for "doing things
right" which is of no relevance to most of us. You might as well tell us
that w
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> Hi,
>
> Claudius wrote:
> > There are not enough IPv4 adresses for Africa and Latin America already
> > which is why they are assigning IPv6 only already. Now with the new east
> > african internet cable this might lead to even more IPv6 users in
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> > This is a bad idea. Do it right or do it not.
>
> ... has never been OSM's attitude so far, so why change
> now. Honestly, I
Judging by my experience, there will be most likely be between 0.01% and 1%
IPv6 traffic v IPv4 traffic, this of course wi
good morning,
i like the idea although i agree with frederik that maybe not everything
can be done inside one application.
a few ideas and facts and thoughts
- today every week i provide ~30.000 bugs for germany. they are only
published on my web, linked in the wiki and occasionally i post to th
Thomas Schäfer wrote:
> sorry the theme is for the most of the people off topic. They use the
> application "osm" via "internet". But the fundament of the internet (its
> protocol) is changing.
We (the admins) are all well aware of this. I personally have had IPv6
on my home network for some y
Frederik Ramm schrieb am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009:
> Hi,
>
> Thomas Schäfer wrote:
> > This is a bad idea. Do it right or do it not.
>
> ... has never been OSM's attitude so far, so why change now. Honestly, I
> get the feeling you're on a personal crusade here for "doing things
> right" which is of
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb John Smith:
> > get the feeling you're on a personal crusade here for
>
> It sucks when people turn
> things into a religious issue and go off on their high horses how
> everything should be done perfectly.
Your horse isn't high?
Thomas
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> Your horse isn't high?
I prefer soap boxes personally, they don't tend to shy ;)
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, John Smith wrote:
>
> --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Thomas Schäfer wrote:
>
> > Your horse isn't high?
>
> I prefer soap boxes personally, they don't tend to shy ;)
>
>
>
or kick...
:(
k.
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Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Tom Hughes:
> We (the admins) are all well aware of this. I personally have had IPv6
> on my home network for some years now.
That is nice.
> There are reasons why this is not as simple as it sounds. I know that
> sounds a bit cryptic but please believe me whe
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in
> one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded;
> instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the
> user interface to offer functionality.
I'd kind of taken that as re
Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to
>> http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database.
>>
> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central
> place and allow users to do only w
Simon,
I think you probably should be emailing this to CM. So have done so for you.
Cheers
Andy
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Hi,
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in
>> one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded;
>> instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the
>> user interface to offer functiona
Hi,
Dair Grant wrote:
> Is the bugs database really so different in character to the map database
> though? Provided there was a planet-style dump of the bug database, anyone
> wishing to build an external system could easily do so.
As I tried to point out in my other message, if there is to be a
> Both foot and cycle routes take a long way around (car goes even further
> thought an 'access=bus' section).
"access=bus"? That tag doesn't match the usual vehicletype=usageright
structure, so why would you expect it to be recognized?
Tobias Knerr
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Frederik Ramm wrote:
> This is something that must not be lost. Yes, any application can upload
> their bug via the REST interface, but they can hardly upload an
> algorithm on how to deal with the bug. So in order not to lose the
> flexibility of the ecosystem we currently have, we should make
Hello list,
there is a new mailing list available for OSM.
The topic is accessibility.
It will be discussed...
* How to create non visual maps for the blind and visual impaired
* New tags that allow to map objects of special interest for disabled persons
* New maps that contain information abou
Thomas Schäfer schrieb:
>> It is probably a moot point anyway because, as someone else pointed out,
>> either UCL does it or they don't and we would be the last ones to raise
>> a fuss with them over anything.
>
> You don't want realize. I have to accept that.
>
> Sorry.
OSM is largely a merit
On 2 Jul 2009, at 00:54, si...@mungewell.org wrote:
I had a little play with Cloudmade's routing stuff and it wasn't quite
working for me.
http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=51.103306&lng=-114.079413&zoom=15&directions=51.10050375773113,-114.0750789642334,51.10594712658125,-114.08280372619629&
2009/7/2 Tobias Knerr :
>> Both foot and cycle routes take a long way around (car goes even further
>> thought an 'access=bus' section).
>
> "access=bus"? That tag doesn't match the usual vehicletype=usageright
> structure, so why would you expect it to be recognized?
>
you could take psv=yes or p
On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> SteveC wrote:
>> But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading
>> of bugs.
>> We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and
>> expose more of the bugs.
>
> I believe that the types of bugs one can lo
On 1 Jul 2009, at 21:15, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Nic Roets wrote:
>> And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect
>> him to
>> http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the
>> database.
>
> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all
On 2 Jul 2009, at 09:44, Dair Grant wrote:
> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>>> And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI,
>>> redirect him to
>>> http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the
>>> database.
>>>
>> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog a
On 2 Jul 2009, at 11:19, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>>> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in
>>> one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded;
>>> instead open this up so that anybody can hook the
Hi,
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Nic Roets wrote:
>> And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to
>> http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database.
>
> That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one
> central place and a
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, SteveC wrote:
>
> On 2 Jul 2009, at 09:44, Dair Grant wrote:
>
>> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>>
And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI,
redirect him to
http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the
database.
>>
SteveC wrote:
> On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> SteveC wrote:
>>> But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading
of bugs.
>>> We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose
more of the bugs.
>> I believe that the types of bugs
Christoph Boehme schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>> Nic Roets wrote:
>>
>>> And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to
>>> http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database.
>>>
>> That's the point I was trying to make
Hi all,
A team has formed amoung the Ubuntu community to help make Ubuntu work
well for NGOs (Non-Govermental Organisations, aka charities) [1] [2]. I
myself have done some volunteer work sending ubuntu computers to Africa
with Camara [3]. One problem with many places in the developing world is
no
> Hi all,
>
> A team has formed amoung the Ubuntu community to help make Ubuntu work
> well for NGOs (Non-Govermental Organisations, aka charities) [1] [2]. I
> myself have done some volunteer work sending ubuntu computers to Africa
> with Camara [3]. One problem with many places in the developing
I wonder if Portable GIS would help?
http://www.archaeogeek.com/blog/portable-gis/
Cheers, Joseph
2009/7/2 :
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A team has formed amoung the Ubuntu community to help make Ubuntu work
>> well for NGOs (Non-Govermental Organisations, aka charities) [1] [2]. I
>> myself have done s
On 02/07/09 16:39, si...@mungewell.org wrote:
> If you want a 'slippy map' displayed in a local webbrowser this can also
> be achieved by having a local webserver or tile cache on the same machine
> that the web browser is on.
Yeah that's pretty much what I want to.
I'm curious if it'd be better
Hurricane McEwen wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run
> in to the same issue?
Yes. And they are probably having the same problem as I had recently
with toposm.com.
It appears that the OpenLayers.Layer.OSM class now expects a full URL
templa
Hey,
I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to
the same issue?
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I tried to find the users position.
First I read the location from http://api.hostip.info.
Then, if the user has a browser with "geolocation" (wifi based position
finder) the user will be asked if he wants to give his Firefox 3.5
geolocation to the browser.
The map:
http://www.khtml.org
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote:
> I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run
> in to the same issue?
Errm.. yes, damn. :(
I am using the OpenLayers code hosted on the OSM servers - looks like this
has changed and it is now breaking. I'll try and have
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Lars Ahlzen wrote:
> It appears that the OpenLayers.Layer.OSM class now expects a full URL
> template for the tiles, rather than just the directory... i.e. something
> like:
Nope, that didn't fix it. :(
Looks like I'll need to do a bit more debugging.
- Steve
xmpp:st..
Offline can mean a number of things
- Offline accessible maps. The tiles are created and stored on the local
computer or network. A laptop can be configured with the OSM stack
(mod_tile+mapnik), or any number of other stacks that work with OSM data files
(OpenGeo, Sahana). Or the software coul
> I'm curious if it'd be better to pre-generate all the images before, and
> then you're just serving static files, or if it'd be better to have some
> sort of web server / database / the whole tile rendering shebang on there.
Pre-generating probably won't be the good way to go, I saw some
figu
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
> First I read the location from http://api.hostip.info.
> Then, if the user has a browser with "geolocation" (wifi
> based position
> finder) the user will be asked if he wants to give his
> Firefox 3.5
> geolocation to the browser.
RIM has
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Mikel Maron wrote:
> - Devices. iPhone has an offline maps app. It's easy to
> make maps for Garmin devices.
AndNav2 (Android) has an inbuilt pre-caching option, this can be slow, the
alternative is some apps that precache maps for trekbuddy (J2ME) also work for
making AndN
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Mikel Maron wrote:
> The data is the other point. Planet is currently around 6.2
> GB, compressed. That could fit on two DVDs. Probably better
That's assuming you leave it in OSM format, you can probably reduce this size
if you switch it to some other format specifically dev
On 02/07/09 17:32, Steve Hill wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote:
>
>> I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run
>> in to the same issue?
>
> Errm.. yes, damn. :(
>
> I am using the OpenLayers code hosted on the OSM servers - looks like this
> has cha
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Rory McCann wrote:
> I'm curious if it'd be better to pre-generate all the images before, and
> then you're just serving static files, or if it'd be better to have some
> sort of web server / database / the whole tile rendering shebang on there.
What about using a n
On 2 Jul 2009, at 17:32, Steve Hill wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote:
>
>> I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone
>> run
>> in to the same issue?
>
> Errm.. yes, damn. :(
Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction
be
El Jueves, 2 de Julio de 2009, Rory McCann escribió:
[...]
> I'm curious if it'd be better to pre-generate all the images before, and
> then you're just serving static files, or if it'd be better to have some
> sort of web server / database / the whole tile rendering shebang on there.
IMHO, it'd b
By the way: you should get in touch with Engineers Without Borders[1] and
similar NGOs. They sure have some experience deploying GIS in the developing
world.
[1] http://www.ewb-international.org/
Cheers,
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:46 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
> --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
>> First I read the location from http://api.hostip.info.
>> Then, if the user has a browser with "geolocation" (wifi
>> based position
>> finder) the user will be asked if he wants to give hi
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Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote:
> Thomas Schäfer schrieb:
>
>>> It is probably a moot point anyway because, as someone else pointed out,
>>> either UCL does it or they don't and we would be the last ones to raise
>>> a fuss with them over anything.
>> You d
>
> Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction
> between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add
> the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render it.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Golf_course
>
You can
I contacted people at NASA asking whether they were planning on
releasing their ASTER data under a license that would be suitable for
projects like OSM. I quoted them the terms they present upon download
which would be problematic:
"""
# I agree to redistribute the ASTER GDEM only to individuals w
> As it turns out the first clause is (apparently) to facilitate
> tracking of how the data is used and so that they can announce
> updates, and the second is to ensure proper attribution. I've asked
> them permission to quote their complete reply but that's basically it.
What about derived da
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>
> # When presenting or publishing ASTER GDEM data, I agree to include
> "ASTER GDEM is a product of METI and NASA."
That clause seems very similar to the BSD advertising clause (and is
problematic for the same reasons):
http://en.wi
Ævar, Thanks for trying to get clarification. Despite my disagreeing that
there is any real restriction on the data that affects its use in OSM,
clarification and explicit permission is always a good thing.
This should have been cross-posted to legal, probably. And let me preface it
all with IANAL
On 2 Jul 2009, at 21:19, si...@mungewell.org wrote:
>
>>
>> Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction
>> between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add
>> the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render
>> it.
>> http://wiki
> Also, I don't think it is fair to call it
> 'polluting the map' to add current details just because there is no
> rendering .
The 'polluting' comment was aimed at the _proposed_ cycle path, not the
golf course details.
> Out of interest, is there a way of overlaying KML on OSM tiles using
> O
> Whole world dump (bzip2 compressed) is 6.2 GB
It would be possible to filter this to produce a smaller (but less
precise) version, which might be ample for your requirements.
For example a sweeping curve may be drawn in OSM with a node every meter,
taking 100 nodes. When in reality it is deriv
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 19:02 +0100, Peter Miller wrote:
> Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction
> between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add
> the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render it.
> http://wiki.openstre
> You can also strip out all of the data/tags which you are not interested
> in rendering.
>
> Obviously you would not want to upload any of this 'tainted' data back
> into the OSM database.
If you do now want to edit, just use the data to display a map (and
perhaps do some routing, etc ,
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> People care because it has been standardized and is being
> implemented
> by major players: http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html
Dunno about you, but 50,000,000 blackberry users can't be too wrong...
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--- On Thu, 2/7/09, si...@mungewell.org wrote:
> Distilling this down to a way which is 'not more than 5m
> away' from the
> original might save a considerable amount of space.
>
> You can also strip out all of the data/tags which you are
> not interested
> in rendering.
Or you could use some b
On 02/07/2009, at 23:32, John Smith wrote:
>
> --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> People care because it has been standardized and is being
>> implemented
>> by major players: http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html
>
> Dunno about you, but 50,000,000 blackberry users can't
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> Or you could use some binary format that reduces all the bloating produced by
> xml.
...or database [files] as Rory McCann suggested, for direct usage.
Stefan
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--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Aun Yngve Johnsen wrote:
> First of all I doubt there are 50,000,000 blackberry users,
Not my figure, but apparently the number of active BB subscribers
> that number sounds a little too high, and yes, they can be
I'm not sure but the number of their users gets kicked abou
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Stefan de Konink wrote:
> > Or you could use some binary format that reduces all
> the bloating produced by xml.
>
> ...or database [files] as Rory McCann suggested, for direct
> usage.
I'm guessing the database files would take up more space due to overheads and
indexing,
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