Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > Hi, > > Claudius wrote: > > There are not enough IPv4 adresses for Africa and Latin America already > > which is why they are assigning IPv6 only already. Now with the new east > > african internet cable this might lead to even more IPv6 users in > > potential OSM countries, but... all those IPv6 users cannot reach IPv4 > > only servers. > > This is an honest question because I really have not researched the > matter: Are there *real* people in developing countries whom one might > consider potential mappers who buy Internet access and get IPv6 only > with no HTTP access to IPv4 only servers? Would not any provider who > cannot offer IPV4 addresses be forced to set up easy-to-use proxy or > masquerading systems?
It is not only the developing countries. Also mobile-ISP in Europe torture their custumers with NAT, Proxies and so on because of the lack of ipv4 addresses. ipv6-providers have solutions for ipv4-connectivity,otherwise they had no chance to introduce ipv6. > > (Can they even reach ebay, amazon, cnn, twitter and the lot then?) They can reach the old world - with additional expenses at the network-side. > > Or is this something rather hypothetical, much like it would > theoretically be possible to set up an IPv6-only dialup in Germany if > you really, really wanted? > > I'm trying to find out if IPv6 is something that is pragmatically > required, or if this is rather something ideology-based - I read a lot > of "should" in Thomas's statements. My opinion is that if we have reason OSM is a community-project. Therefore I say "should". At work I am the "chief" regarding my part of the network - there is it a "must". > to believe that, for the forseeable future, even those IPv6-only > machines that might exist somewhere will have an effortless way to > connect to the IPv4 world (and the only thing to be said against this is > that it is "technically uncool"), then I would not waste a minute trying > to be cool. But if there are real-world situations where people who can > use the rest of the internet normally turn away from OSM because we > don't talk to them, then we should act. Theres is more effort to connect ipv6-only-hosts/nat-ed/proxy-ed Hosts to ipv4 than for us to enable ipv6. > > It is probably a moot point anyway because, as someone else pointed out, > either UCL does it or they don't and we would be the last ones to raise > a fuss with them over anything. You don't want realize. I have to accept that. Sorry. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
