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I'm speaking (about Wikipedia and Wikidata, not OSM - though it may
get mentioned ;-) ) in Pristina, Kosovo, next week, at "Software
Freedom Kosova 2016: SFK16":
http://sfk.flossk.org/sfk16/
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n Mini", nor a "BurgerKing Happy Meal". for
example).
> So we are looking for a new name. We have some ideas already but I wanted to
> ask
> if you had any suggestions for a new name for OSV?
OpenStreets
OpenVista
OpenPanorama
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On 18 December 2016 at 21:40, Edwin Smith wrote:
> 1) Destination is for the use of the navigation program.
That's a form of "tagging for the renderer".
Besides, if you wan to record, literally, what's on a sign, use
something like 'transcription='
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On 25 December 2016 at 17:17, Toby Murray wrote:
> Beware Pokemon users
You appear to have accidentally typed "Beware Pokemon users", where
the correct subject would be "Please Welcome Pokemon users".
HTH, and Merry Christmas!
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On 3 January 2017 at 09:11, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> To my knowledge, there is no site where one could add a set of OSM IDs that
> need attention
There is, and you can edit it yourself:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page
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people whose hard work has seen many thousands
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* not anecdotes.
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OSM are already of low
quality" goes.
Or would you accept a single random bad tag on OSM as evidence that
"tags in OSM are already of low
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Link, please. There are circumstances where it is legitimate for a
Wikidata value to be used more than once.
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On 4 January 2017 at 15:24, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 04/01/2017 15:08, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> On 4 January 2017 at 13:09, Andy Townsend wrote:
>>
>>> Do my comments on http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43749373 count
>>> as
>>> &qu
On 4 January 2017 at 15:38, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 January 2017, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> There are circumstances where it is legitimate for a
>> Wikidata value to be used more than once.
>
> Then you'd need to change the tag definition on the wiki
On 4 January 2017 at 15:55, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 04/01/2017 15:36, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> Please quantify that; against the total number of Wikidata tags.
> 214 changes in that changeset; at first glance 82 civil parishes in there
> likely to be in error if they have the &
t; working in has the time to add Wikidata tags.
As has been made clear in other discussions in which you have been
involved, this is already underway.
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several other, disparate, parts of the globe.
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ussed import or because they made a mistake
> themselves and ask for help after getting in trouble with others about
> it.
It seems to me that precisely the opposite is true. But as we've both
offered zero evidence for our beliefs, they should each carry no weight.
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of data. My local library, for example, offers Internet
access, but not Wi-Fi - I can use their PC, but not my device.
Or do you mean to change wi-fi=yes to internet_access=wi-fi ?
The proposal is not clear.
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if these tourist attractions could be rendered in the
default map.
We could agree an additional tag if necessary.
A list of such figures may be found at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_figure
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gs on upload?
What editing tool are you using.
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I'm using JOSM 11639, under Windows 10, and all my settings seem to be
missing - for example aerial imagery, remote control activation, and
plugins. My user name and password are remembered.
Any tips for recovering them?
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On 10 April 2017 at 14:57, Jo wrote:> Hi Andy,
> Your JOSM settings are stored here:
>
> C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming\JOSM\preferences.xml
Thank you. That was missing, but I was able to restore a backup, one I
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nd three anchor points -
how should those be tagged?
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On 22 April 2017 at 00:37, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 21/04/2017 22:56, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> the Sutton Coldfield (England) TV mast:
>> http://www.opensntreetmap.org/?mlat=37.08321&mlon=-8.13643#map=17/37.0832/-8.1364
> That's the one in Portugal, I
t)
> One could also add a "wikidata" tag
For Sutton Coldfield, that tag is on the while station, not just the mast.
What about tagging the anchor points and cables, as mentioned in my
original post?
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> This service is still looking for a proper home. If you have an extra 700GB
> of space on a server, please PM.
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h
Thank you, Dan, for making these and your other points so cogently.
Comments like:
Stop destroying detailed map using generalization tools. In
developing countries like Nepal eactly map can save human life.
beggar belief. Perhaps whoever left that should themselves be warned to desist.
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house-sized structure, on Commodore Reef, in the South
China Sea
There is nothing showing on OSM at that location.
Anyone fancy doing a survey? ;-)
Also, there is a node on the reef with name=Northeast Shea
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My friend Terence Eden has proposed a new HTML element for maps:
https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2017/08/mapping-in-html-a-proposal-for-a-new-element/
I've already left some comments on his post.
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wiki/Trap_street ?
You say that this has been verified, but I have not seen any alleged
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On 28 August 2017 at 08:57, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a data deletion - a very different thing.
Another editor in this discussion says that they:
changed the name tag to chdr_USA_AZ_name_fixup_required
That's not merely a deletion.
It behoves DWG to adhere to their own
On 1 September 2017 at 14:37, Oleksiy Muzalyev
wrote:
> I received today my new DJI Spark quad-copter and made a panoramic aerial
> image with it:
Impressive pic.
Curious about the drone, I found this review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eYGih4FI8c
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The commonest error I have found is wikidata=Qnnn instead of
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> that in Israel, @SwiftFast uses a template to keep them in sync for gas
> stations and ATMs, but we need a more generic solution.
They should be easy to find by looking for items with the same QID,
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link.
>> find location errors (e.g.
>> wikidata and OSM point to very different locations, implying that its an
>> incorrect link).
>
> Again, OpenStreetMap is not a workbench for importing and then fixing
> non-OSM data (even if it may look convenient). Please build a Q
On 20 September 2017 at 12:50, JB wrote:
> Le 20/09/2017 à 13:05, Oleksiy Muzalyev a écrit :
>> It would give a boost to the Wikidata project.
>
> Am I really reading from an OSM mailing list here?
Yes. I read that as "the project at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata " and not "the pr
On 21 September 2017 at 08:17, Philip Barnes wrote:
> As far as I am aware, all bus routes have to be wheelchair accessible by
> law.
This very much depends on the jurisdiction.
Please remember that this is a global mailing list.
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On 22 September 2017 at 22:08, SwiftFast wrote:
> Is it possible to change my Wiki username?
It should be - email me off-list and I'll take a look (maybe tomorrow).
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On 26 September 2017 at 03:40, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> I have been blocked by Andy Townsend with the following message.
> I believe Andy is acting in best interest of the project, yet might have
> missed or misread this discussion.
I agree with Yuri.
This series of edits will, once complete, le
Belgium and Japan.
That is clearly impractical for a task of this nature and, if true,
would be an effective prohibition on any such beneficial editing.
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Thank you. I support this proposal.
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sion went titsup a few years back, there
were chains of stores in the UK and in Australia, each called
"Woolworths". Though they had common roots, they were not the same.
> anybody that wants to look up WD keys could do so via a simple external table.
Please can you tell us where to f
On 27 September 2017 at 12:57, Simon Poole wrote:
>> For example, until the UK version went titsup a few years back, there
>> were chains of stores in the UK and in Australia, each called
>> "Woolworths". Though they had common roots, they were not the same.
> Why would that matter to OSM?
It m
On 27 September 2017 at 12:49, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> in different parts of the world
>
> IIRC OSM stores spatial information. I might be wrong.
For some reason I can't determine, you quote me out-of-context; the
context was that we were discussin
iata failing to be
sufficiently reliable?
> Just a single link to a substantial set of additional data.
That is exactly what Wikidata is for.
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On 27 September 2017 at 14:37, Simon Poole wrote:
> Am 27.09.2017 um 15:00 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
>> Tim Berners Lee coined the "Five Stars of Open Data"
>>
>> http://5stardata.info/en/
> You are assuming
> a) that an arbitrary best practice def
e OSM wiki, like this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dice_cream&diff=1510821&oldid=1424407
just as it it should be recorded once in Wikidata, on the
corresponding item, using the "OpenStreetMap tag or key" property,
P1282, like this:
https://www
wanting to make an automated edit
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nclined to concur.
So that's at least three of you tilting at the same windmill.
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nique reference?
I've not seen anyone advocate that.
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On 27 September 2017 at 17:31, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 27/09/17 16:48, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> On 27 September 2017 at 16:06, Lester Caine wrote:
>>> critically I'd prefer to see the wikipedia pages containing a link to
>>> the wikidata entry!
>>
>> T
ia
> wikidata.
No, it's an example of wrong data in OSM. Albeit on a single object:
way/25716765
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map.org/tags/wikidata=Q118958 or even
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/wikipedia=nl%3ALeuven
Objects named after Leuven MUST NOT be tagged "wikidata=Q118958", nor
"wikipedia=:Leuven"
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On 28 September 2017 at 11:23, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 28/09/2017 11:13, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> On 28 September 2017 at 09:53, Andy Townsend wrote:
>>
>>> "objects named after Leuven"
>>> I'd have thought that this sort of "extra no
/Q18983100
is the Wikidata item about an ornamental gate, made by a locally
well-known artist, which exists in OSM as:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2312982822
Never in a million years will it qualify for its own Wikipedia article.
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les, and other useful
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d Wikipedia."
> and misinterpreting constructive
> critique of that as an attempt to tell local mappers what tags they may
> and may not add to the things they map.
And now you're making things up.
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On 1 October 2017 at 14:03, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 01/10/2017 13:05, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> And now you're making things up.
>>
> just two posts earlier in this thread you said
>
>> I don't think this kind of sarcastic hyperbole helps to move things
>
> We are in active action on not only fixing wikipedia
> tags, but also adding missing tags to OSM, adding missing coordinates
> to wikipedia, aligning coordinates between OSM and wikipedia etc. For
> YEARS!
Me too.
That does not preclude the work Yuri is doing; the two are not
mutua
On 2 October 2017 at 19:36, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Instead, I have Yuri adding, modifying,
> and re-adding Wikidata tags all over the planet and ignoring most calls
> for moderation, and Andy Mabbett from England editing supermarkets in
> Germany.
I've asked you once alr
n we would like to
> see, and reach a consensus on this.
It seems to me that such consensus was reached a long while ago, and
that only you and a couple of other people refuse to accept this.
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> You have advanced to justification
"You have advanced no justification..."
On 3 October 2017 at 13:43, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 2 October 2017 at 19:36, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>> Instead, I have Yuri adding, modifying,
>> and re-adding Wikidata tags all ov
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On 25 October 2017 at 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2017-10-25 11:49 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett :
>>
>> On 25 October 2017 at 10:06, Martin Koppenhoefer
>> wrote:
>> > wikidata objects often don't say what they are about
>> > (besides the name),
Do we have a tool that will give me the length of a way (or a
relation, made from several continuous ways)?
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On 1 December 2017 at 00:20, Mike Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andy Mabbett
> wrote:
>>
>> Do we have a tool that will give me the length of a way (or a
>> relation, made from several continuous ways)?
> If you select the way in JOSM it will
OSM's main window
Really, really, useful. Thank you.
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[Hence BCCd to some of my friends in Jakarta]
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anlayses several "hotspots", the reasons for which are not yet clear.
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ot;</a>;,
"sameAs" : [
"<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q936"">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q936"</a>;,
],
}
and possibly some other schema.org values; you
New Wikimedia Foundation blog post:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/28/interactive-maps-now-in-your-language/
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tainable version of their database?
Because the OSM community refuses to allow the import of data from Wikidata.
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On 29 June 2018 at 11:57, Simon Poole wrote:
>> On 29.06.2018 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>> New Wikimedia Foundation blog post:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/28/interactive-maps-now-in-your-language/
> they should not be calling fo
So you are denying that they are asking their users to add names to OSM so
> that their application looks better?
Everyone on this mailing list can see for themselves that that is not
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This may be of interest:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/technology/google-maps-
neighborhood-names.html
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"This street has over a half-dozen names, all at once."
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/arkhivna-street
Mapped here, but without all those names:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/234767127
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Nice use of OSM data in the ARIADNEplus Project, a new European
initiative for Digital Archaeology and Cultural Heritage.:
http://portal.ariadne-infrastructure.eu/
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lso for
performing maintenance tasks in bulk,
> Note this has nothing to do with the merits of the edits themselves.
That should be the only consideration
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> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
I have read the full thread to date and find myself strongly in favour
of this well-argued proposal.
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or similar
or both of the above.
And perhaps, if the dead URL is found on archve.org, add something
like a 'website_archive=' tag.
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your options a or b would apply?
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On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 09:51, Simon Poole wrote:
> Am 01.03.2019 um 01:12 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
> > 28 characters. There are many cases, such as mobile phones, where -
> > depending on user settings - that's either going to be too small to be
> > readable, or so big it
OSMF authority to act as my agent. Did you?
Wikipedia's advice for people whose open-licensed copyright material
is misused is pertinent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks#Non-compliance_process
[usual OSMF is not WMF caveats apply].
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On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 11:56, Marc Gemis wrote:
> > I don't recall ever giving the OSMF authority to act as my agent. Did you?
> You probably agreed to
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms, not ?
I believe I did.
What does that have to do with my
work and to
> pursue other legal remedies.
I can't parse that; please can you restate it, more clearly?
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nStreetMap contributors,
> Rendering © MapServer and EOX}"
>
> But the attribution font is so tiny that is is barely noticeable. There is
> attribution, but it is debatable whether using a tiny font size makes
> the attribution improper or ridiculous.
Perhaps its a
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 13:44, Simon Poole wrote:
> Am 01.03.2019 um 12:49 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
> > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 11:05, Mateusz Konieczny
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Additional question - who can file DMCA. AFAIK only OSMF can do that and
> >> indi
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 16:23, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 01.03.19 16:04, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > Poppycock.
>
> The rest of us are trying to have a serious conversation here. Please
> adapt or leave.
And "Poppycock" is a serious word in the English language.
gt; through multiple tiers of sub-licensees and to sue for any copyright violation
> directly connected with OSMF's rights under these terms.
The words you quote don't mean what you seem to think they do; they
certainly do not authorise the OSMF to act as my agent i
gion.
I've corresponded with Edward during his prepartory work, and know
that the former is already in place. I've also checked random
instances of his matches, and have found no false positives; indeed,
his cautious approach has been admirable
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being added
to OSM. No cordinates from Wikidata are being added to OSM. No text
from Wikidata is being added to OSM.
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e added garbage data
> from both to OSM. How do we know that the wikidata items for which links
> are added are accurate?
That sounds much like an edge case - a extreme-edge case, at that. How
many such villages are mapped in OSM? Isn't that what needs fixing?
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agreed?
And would you like to address the merits of the proposal at hand?
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